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  1. #10809

    Nms

    Went to see my usual Bonnie last visit. Strong walk and cream massage worked my back out felt like a limp noodle. Flip was good lots of mutual touching, paid the normal (I usually tip 50).

    However on the way out Bonnie introduced me to Angie who looked much younger anyone here been with Angie?

  2. #10808
    Quote Originally Posted by SMS54  [View Original Post]
    I don't think it is shorting the provider to leave the amount that brings the total to what other places are getting. I am not advocating paying less than what was agreed to at the outset, and not advocating taking advantage of a provider by leaving a substantial amount less than the going rate.


    Another thing to think about is when they say the house fee is 70, offer 60 and if they don't accept it turn around and leave.
    I understand your logic, but I can't agree with it. I look at it this way. If you go to a hospital for an operation you'll get one bill from the doctor and another from the hospital for the use of their premises. Such is the same in an AMP, the house is equivalent to the hospital, and the provider is equivalent to the doctor. Two separate entities. Over simplified, yes, but the same idea.

    Your idea of offerring 60 when they say the house fee is 70 is a good solid tactic, if enough of us do it, and leave if they don't accept it, it could work. However, I really don't think $10 would upset me enough to leave and go someplace else.

  3. #10807
    I don't think they really care about 10 bucks either way. They're looking for regs to keep happy. In NY, when its slow, GFE becomes standard to regs and bb if they trust you. I ran into an AMP babe at an upscale NY bar and she wasn't having luck, so, she invited herself to my place where it was GFE / bb overnighter. The next time I saw her at the AMP, she acted like she barely knew me but in the room, it was GFE / bb. Treat them well, and it will be appreciated is my experience.

  4. #10806
    Quote Originally Posted by HornyAsHell  [View Original Post]
    I don't think he went in intending to "short" the girl at all and it does appear that he didn't know they charged $70 versus $60 and I guess at that point if you know you only have $200 total that you have to decide to either leave or see if the $130 tip is acceptable. He can always go back another time and tip an extra $10 saying he felt he owed her etc. Either way it's good to let others know that this new place is a FS spa and that the fee structure here is different than most others.
    Thanks HAH and SMS 54.

    I went there on their grand opening and wasn't sure what to expect since the location being on Manton and all, all I brought with me was my cell phone, I'd and $$. I thought that $$ would be enough judging from some of the previous post of FS spas around. Didn't mean to short the girl but when she counted she was fine with it, no complaints or sad looks. I do have to say though if you're looking for a girl with a nice spinner body and good sized naturals for that frame, she is a good choice.

  5. #10805

    Not written in Stone

    Quote Originally Posted by HornyAsHell  [View Original Post]
    I don't think he went in intending to "short" the girl at all and it does appear that he didn't know they charged $70 versus $60 and I guess at that point if you know you only have $200 total that you have to decide to either leave or see if the $130 tip is acceptable. He can always go back another time and tip an extra $10 saying he felt he owed her etc. Either way it's good to let others know that this new place is a FS spa and that the fee structure here is different than most others.
    I know as much as anyone what the going "donation" is for FS services in town, but since this place is new and they have decided to make the house fee higher, and as long as the donation amount at the beginning of service hasn't been pre- negotiated, I don't think it is shorting the provider to leave the amount that brings the total to what other places are getting. I am not advocating paying less than what was agreed to at the outset, and not advocating taking advantage of a provider by leaving a substantial amount less than the going rate. There might be an opportunity here with a new place to at least keep a lid on increases in total cash outlay.

    Of course there are other factors to consider, such as how many minutes in their "hour" and cleanliness of the facility etc. As well as the overall quality of the visit which will vary by virtue of who the provider is, attitudes etc. So far I haven't seen anything written about this place that would make me want to try it.

    Another thing to think about is when they say the house fee is 70, offer 60 and if they don't accept it turn around and leave.

  6. #10804
    I don't think he went in intending to "short" the girl at all and it does appear that he didn't know they charged $70 versus $60 and I guess at that point if you know you only have $200 total that you have to decide to either leave or see if the $130 tip is acceptable. He can always go back another time and tip an extra $10 saying he felt he owed her etc. Either way it's good to let others know that this new place is a FS spa and that the fee structure here is different than most others.

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeScreen  [View Original Post]
    That's a good report, but to answer your question, no, I don't think it's right to take money from the provider to give to the house. The house can charge whatever they think they can get away with. Thai & Brazilian spas will generally charge 80 for the house, but the tip is what the girl gets, and should not be shorted. They are 2 separate amounts and should be considered as such. Just my opinion.

  7. #10803
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeScreen  [View Original Post]
    That's a good report, but to answer your question, no, I don't think it's right to take money from the provider to give to the house. The house can charge whatever they think they can get away with. Thai & Brazilian spas will generally charge 80 for the house, but the tip is what the girl gets, and should not be shorted. They are 2 separate amounts and should be considered as such. Just my opinion.
    Plesant was. 7 for a while and if I remember. 5 for a half. Last time I was there about a year ago they had dropped to. 6 for the hour. They also no longer use the locker room, crappy robs and sandles but that's a side rant.

  8. #10802
    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeScreen  [View Original Post]
    the tip is what the girl gets, and should not be shorted. They are 2 separate amounts and should be considered as such. Just my opinion.
    FWIW, my opinion too.

  9. #10801
    Quote Originally Posted by ProvGuy  [View Original Post]
    Hello fellow mongers.



    Quick Monger Question, if the house fee is. 7 is it normal to take the extra. 1 from the tip ad a rule of thumb? She counted and was good with it but I'm wondering for future endeavor.




    Damage.

    House- . 7.

    Tip- $. 3.
    That's a good report, but to answer your question, no, I don't think it's right to take money from the provider to give to the house. The house can charge whatever they think they can get away with. Thai & Brazilian spas will generally charge 80 for the house, but the tip is what the girl gets, and should not be shorted. They are 2 separate amounts and should be considered as such. Just my opinion.

  10. #10800

    I say give him a Break this time

    Quote Originally Posted by FlyDangler  [View Original Post]
    Let's see, first post was in DEC 2012, three total posts to date. Two were "me too" saying not much else reviews and one was more of a question. So please explain to me why senior members should PM you for details and how exactly does that get you any credibility?
    And thanks to both newer mongers who took the leap and tried out the new place on Manton. Both are building some good reputation by sharing some good usable intel on a new place.

  11. #10799

    PM for details? Credibility?

    Quote Originally Posted by JWill321  [View Original Post]
    Senior members can PM me for details. Trying to establish some credibility.
    Let's see, first post was in DEC 2012, three total posts to date. Two were "me too" saying not much else reviews and one was more of a question. So please explain to me why senior members should PM you for details and how exactly does that get you any credibility?

  12. #10798
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleTonyII  [View Original Post]
    Muffy, Muffy, Muffy. . . Yes it has been 12 years since the original Yung (Young) graced Apple (Japan) (1021) with her fantastic program.

    From 10-31-2002 Horney man - - Hello fellow hunters!!
    Just had to write this message after a visit yesterday to my favorite AMP. Had a girl named Young, I must say at first I wasn't blown away with her looks. Not that she was ugly or fat, she was about 5' - 5'4" tall a little chubby, but not bad at all and her looks were okay To good. What she lacked in the looks department she absolutely made up for with service. I have been going to AMP's for a few years now and have been with many Asian women before and I must say that this girl was by far the best service I have ever had (a real GFE experience other than trying to have a conversation). But then again who the "F**K" wants to have a conversation while engaging with these girls anyways.

    And from me on 9-29-2004 - - With all the rain keeping everyone in today, I needed to get out so I made the treck to Apple. Providence's best "Young" masseuse was available. She is fantastic. I brought a toy in and she flipped out when I used it on her with 15 minuets of DATY. Several loud screams later, she melted in my arms. The rest of the session was just as fantastic. Best way to relieve the stress of a rainy day.


    Now, I know your wife!! She wants to marry me too! Should I worry??

    Have fun.

    Tony. .
    LMAO. Thats going back "Hornyman" that was my first name here wayyyyyy back, had to change that as at the time I was married still and the Ex found out I was on this site and read all my posts! Boy was that a rough weekend!

    Yes I think my "Spa wife" quite possibly is grooming you and maybe a couple others, good luck to the one who ends up with her, she is actually a fantastic girl, I just can't imagine going through life with a vocabulary of a handful of words you can communicate with!

    Muff.

  13. #10797
    Damnit ProvGuy. I was going to post my ToftT but you beat me to it. At any rate, I had the same provider and had the EXACT same experience. The facility itself is nice. Pretty much exactly what I would say with regard to the shower. The whole curtain separating two shower stalls is not good, but I hope they would not try to use both at once. I am not sure if there is a second room. If you ask Teddy for a strong massage, it is VERY strong. I almost had to ask her to lighten up a little bit. Although I will say that everything after the flip made the experience pretty amazing. I will be going back and asking for her. I don't know what I would call the metric for judging this place, but I would put it between 1021 and OS / DT. It's actually pretty perfect for me since I don't like going to OS / DT due to the factory feeling to them.

    Senior members can PM me for more details.

    Quote Originally Posted by ProvGuy  [View Original Post]
    Hello fellow mongers.

    Decided to try a new place today and toftt. Four Seasons is located right on Manton near the AZ it's hard to miss, right next to a small convenience store but with all the spa picture decal on the window. I tried ringing the door bell but after a couple of rings I called. I was starting to feel awkward standing right outside in plan sight but the mamasan led me to a room, saw the cook on the way there. The house fee was. 7 and I told the mamasan it's normally. 6 I paid what she asked but let her know if she wants to compete she should stick to. 6 Anyways in walks Teddy, She pronounces it "Terry, like Terry Bear. " She hands me my change and off to the showers she "was" wearing a one piece short bluish / green dress. I'd give her a 7. 5 in the looks department with A / be cups, really nice spinner body. What I didn't like was that my TS is in the same room as another only separated by a shower curtain. Cleaning was a little mechanical but watch out getting off the table, almost fell. I was handed some mouth wash and she took some too. Back to the room for the massage which was ok borderline good, she worked out some spots and also did some walking. On to the flip she massaged a little bit and then made some gestures, wasn't sure what was on the menu so o asked for everything, she was good looking enough and I wanted to see that nice body. She counted then came back with supplies. After there was some cuddling, she got me a water and some mouth was by my request. On the way out she let mamasan know we were done and tried to introduce me to another girl working there. I'm glad I got Teddy by luck of the draw. Other girl didn't come near us just peaked from the door, I think Teddy looks a lot better. Mamasan didn't really ask how things were so she said see you next time and I was out the door. When you first walk in it's a little waiting room. You have to be let in the next door to get to the tables. Wasn't really sure what to expect walking into a new place before but gentlemen I popped my FS Cherry. If you want details PM me and I'll get back to you when I can.

    Quick Monger Question, if the house fee is. 7 is it normal to take the extra. 1 from the tip ad a rule of thumb? She counted and was good with it but I'm wondering for future endeavor.

    Looks- 7. 5.

    T. S. - 7.

    Massage- 7. 5.

    S. T. - 7. 5.

    Flip- 8.

    Damage.

    House- . 7.

    Tip- $. 3.

  14. #10796
    Quote Originally Posted by ProvGuy  [View Original Post]
    Hello fellow mongers.

    Decided to try a new place today and toftt. Four Seasons is located right on Manton near the AZ it's hard to miss, right next to a small convenience store but with all the spa picture decal on the window. I tried ringing the door bell but after a couple of rings I called. I was starting to feel awkward standing right outside in plan sight but the mamasan led me to a room, saw the cook on the way there. The house fee was. 7 and I told the mamasan it's normally. 6 I paid what she asked but let her know if she wants to compete she should stick to. 6 Anyways in walks Teddy, She pronounces it "Terry, like Terry Bear. " She hands me my change and off to the showers she "was" wearing a one piece short bluish / green dress. I'd give her a 7. 5 in the looks department with A / be cups, really nice spinner body. What I didn't like was that my TS is in the same room as another only separated by a shower curtain. Cleaning was a little mechanical but watch out getting off the table, almost fell. I was handed some mouth wash and she took some too. Back to the room for the massage which was ok borderline good, she worked out some spots and also did some walking. On to the flip she massaged a little bit and then made some gestures, wasn't sure what was on the menu so o asked for everything, she was good looking enough and I wanted to see that nice body. She counted then came back with supplies. After there was some cuddling, she got me a water and some mouth was by my request. On the way out she let mamasan know we were done and tried to introduce me to another girl working there. I'm glad I got Teddy by luck of the draw. Other girl didn't come near us just peaked from the door, I think Teddy looks a lot better. Mamasan didn't really ask how things were so she said see you next time and I was out the door. When you first walk in it's a little waiting room. You have to be let in the next door to get to the tables. Wasn't really sure what to expect walking into a new place before but gentlemen I popped my FS Cherry. If you want details PM me and I'll get back to you when I can.

    Quick Monger Question, if the house fee is. 7 is it normal to take the extra. 1 from the tip ad a rule of thumb? She counted and was good with it but I'm wondering for future endeavor.

    Looks- 7. 5.

    T. S. - 7.

    Massage- 7. 5.

    S. T. - 7. 5.

    Flip- 8.

    Damage.

    House- . 7.

    Tip- $. 3.
    Guess you balanced the house fee with the tip. Mouth wash was the give away, I think every major FS spa I ever want to offered mouth wash in the shower. Rub and tugs don't.

  15. #10795

    NO, read it again

    He CLEARLY wrote that he paid $70 to the house and $130 for the service and he was simply saying that is what he paid compared to the "normal" fee of $60 to the house and $140 for the service. I guess most guys are expecting to pay the usual $200 total and only bring that much inside with them and if so when you pay $10 more for the house fee you'll obviously be short so it will be taken away from the rest if that's all you have on you.

    In summation, it wasn't a complaint at all. He was letting us know what happened and ASKED us if what he did was ok or not and of course it is. If they make it known that they still expect $140 I guess you need to bring more if you choose to go there versus the other FS AMPs.

    Quote Originally Posted by OriolesHt  [View Original Post]
    You got FS for $ and your complaining of the 7 house fee?

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