The Massholes

[Skatar018]

And won't name names but what do you do with a self-admitted lurker who has 2 posts in 5 years seeking info? I told him if he's been around that long and has some member refs then I would give him what he asks. Fair enough?ND.

This can be a tough decision whether or not to share info with a lurker or guest.

While I am not advocating it, I have done it in the past with both good & bad results.

There are a thousand one reasons why someone is a lurker or guest none of which I care to list or debate.

However if you look on the front page of this site, guests (lurkers?) usually out number members by at least a 2 to 1 margin, there are reasons for that, some good & some not so much. Determining which is which is the hard part, & the same applies to members.

For some it can be hard enough to post a review with info & intel never mind trying to determine if they should share info with a regular or a senior member or a lurker or guest, & I would not disagree with the myriad of ways anyone deals with a lurker or guest.

With that being said the original premise of what this site is or was suppose to be all about is The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex. It's a free & open forum & no one can compel another to post a review or share info or intel, but I feel it does defeat the purpose & spirit of the forum.

I have had more issues sharing info with members than with the half dozen or so lurkers I've dealt with. It usually takes several or more pm's or some form of communication to get a sense of the other person & gut instincts can go a long way, but you are never truly 100% certain of the person you are dealing with be it lurker guest or member.

One lurker made a very different approach in that after he introduced himself as a self-imposed lurker, he gave me contact info & intel & a introduction to a UTR woman that I have not yet seen posted about or mentioned anywhere including on the internet, not facebook, twitter nor any other social forum or any other search that I did.

His proposition was that if I was happy enough with the situation that perhaps I would be willing to share (never asked up front who he was asking about) information back with him on a certain girl. It went back & forth several times, but after seeing her I was more than happy I was ecstatic! After he stated who's info he was looking for I gave him that along with every other GD number I could share at the time.

While this isn't the norm, I tend to admire people's resourcefulness at staying UTR & keeping their anonymity while still giving, getting & sharing info & intel.

At one point in time we were all lurkers, guests, & non participating members here & no one but you can determine to share or whom to share with.

[Newday53]

ND, you are being too kind to him. In many ways a "self admitted lurker with two posts in 5 years" is profoundly worse than a fresh newbie asking questions. The newbie doesn't know any better, this guy most certainly does. Let me guess, his two posts were questions?

I would let him know the only way you provide him info on a girl is if he gives you a similar, verifiable set of information first. My guess is the worm will disappear and won't bother you again.

One post seems solid the other is a question. He seemed to know some names but that 2 post thing in all this time just spooks me. If you lurk enough, you can learn enough to make stuff up, ya know?

ND.

[Member #4868]

And won't name names but what do you do with a self-admitted lurker who has 2 posts in 5 years seeking info? I told him if he's been around that long and has some member refs then I would give him what he asks. Fair enough?

ND.

ND, you are being too kind to him. In many ways a "self admitted lurker with two posts in 5 years" is profoundly worse than a fresh newbie asking questions. The newbie doesn't know any better, this guy most certainly does. Let me guess, his two posts were questions?

I would let him know the only way you provide him info on a girl is if he gives you a similar, verifiable set of information first. My guess is the worm will disappear and won't bother you again.

[Deb4512]

http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEsc...00-22/23204634 Some of you might want to see her as she is reasonably priced and has satisfied clients. I hope you all have a good day. I'm ready for the Belmont Stakes. Go for the triple crown, California Chrome! He's such a handsome horse! .

[Newday53]

And won't name names but what do you do with a self-admitted lurker who has 2 posts in 5 years seeking info? I told him if he's been around that long and has some member refs then I would give him what he asks. Fair enough?

ND.

[Deb4512]

A big thank-you!

I wasn't quite sure of which forum to put this in but rather than the escort classified ad one I wanted to put it here as it is a more active one. Anyway I want to give a big thanks to Jim and Playtime Escorts for adding some holiday cheer to us gents out here with their holiday party. It was a great way to spend a Friday night with plenty of food, drinks and beautiful elves. (elvettes?) A special shout out to the special elves (Cindy, Shari and Allysa) who worked hard to decorate and make it scene reminiscent of an old time Dickens movie! And we can't forget Joe who tended the bar and made sure we all never had an empty glass. And Mr. Jim of Playtime made sure we all had a great night away from all our trials and tribulations. I would ask that Jim work on his jokes for next year however!

Of course the best part of the night was when santa arrived and we got to sit on her lap and let her know what we all wanted for Christmas. With santa's elf Allysa helping Jim and Joe keeping us full of drink and food all was well. We can't forget Shari who was back in town from down south checking that our year had more naughty than nice in it. And Cindy dressed just a little bit naughty. Had our full attention all night. Angie made sure we noticed her too! Of course the idea was not only to spread a little Christmas cheer but to let us see that these ladies were all that they proclaimed to be. And they succeeded as all of them were beautiful, charming, sexy and a lot of fun to be with. Their pictures don't lie except that they might not show quite all their beauty and charm. I would heartily recommend any of them for a little Christmas cheer!

Of course there were a couple of ladies who said they were coming and didn't show (imagine if we gents did that). While it was disappointing to a few of us who were hoping to meet several of them it does make our choices easier in the future as I certainly am going to spend my time with those who cared enough to show! Of course who first. And second. Thanks again.

[Nrlmus]

I think they understand quite well. Choosing the words "human trafficking" is to build support among the masses for their work.

There IS such a thing as human trafficking. Young girls from Laos are "sold" into a kind of sexual slavery to brothels in NE Thailand (Isaan), by their parents who are desperate for money. The girl must work until she has earned enough to pay back this payment. In some countries, girls are kidnapped and sold into prostitution.

Though I have seen that this exists in NE Thailand, in my experience, the vast majority of service providers (in any country I have visited) are there by their own choice. But by claiming that all prostitution is by way of human trafficking, there is a better chance to wipe it all out, at least in places like Boston. What they fail to mention is that legalizing and regulating prostitution is another valid way of controlling human trafficking.

In the Boston Globe yesterday, Mayor Walsh said "In Boston, we will not tolerate buying or selling of human beings. ".

But selling sexual services performed by a willing provider for a willing customer does not amount to selling a human being, any more than getting a (clean) body massage is selling a human being. The opponents of prostitution have other reasons for trying to control it than human trafficking, but these reasons will not sway as many minds.

In the end, there is little any of us can do beyond being aware of this movement and making sure we are not snared.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/06/03/city-aims-reduce-prostitution-targeting-those-who-pay-for-sex/3RR2RtPPkF4Y2P7Ain0APO/story.html

Sure there is such a thing as human trafficking, even slavery. There is even a country called Mauritania where slavery is still basically legal. In fact I'm pretty sure that I saw version of modern slavery here in Boston with one Brazilian woman. I wrote about it earlier.

But human trafficking is a miniscule part of the prostitution. Majority of the prostitutes are so willing and eager and ready and independent in their choices it's not funny. But human trafficking is the way general populace and in particularly women who are not prostitutes in America want to perceive prostitution because, first it gives them an additional wasteful feel-good cause to care about and second, it gives them a reason to keep something which they perceive as a threat to their lifestyle illegal despite feminist ideology of everybody being able to make their own choices in life.

How many times have you seen some reporter interviewing a prostitute (or adult film actress) and tries to convince her that she is unhappy and miserable while she is being all happy and giggly in front of him / her? And when the interviewer says to, let's say, Las Vegas escort a thing like "that must feel really awful being with so many men" and she goes "no, it's actually not that bad. I'm having a lot of fun. They take me out, spend money on me, many of them are intelligent and successful, etc. , etc. " but the minute she starts going that route the reporter screams: "Commercial! Commercial! We're going to commercial!" Us, the masses, are not suppose to be listening to such opinions.

Human trafficking in America exists but it's not that big of a problem, and a lot of it quite consensual too. Prostitution in the third world often keeps the whole families from starving to death. But if you think this way then puritan-minded PC police will hang you because in modern day America you got to think and talk a certain way and if you don't you're either crazy (the best case scenario) or extreme and sooner rather then later such thinking will get you into legal trouble. Boy does my new country reminds me of my old one lately! Boy, got to start thinking of moving to some reasonably free country again! I'd say, Brazil, or where Admin2 lives sounds good too.

[Steve Naive]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2...w8K/story.htmlMaybe he doesn't realize this, but most of the escorts I'm familiar with are willing participants, not coerced like he suggests.

I think they understand quite well. Choosing the words "human trafficking" is to build support among the masses for their work.

There IS such a thing as human trafficking. Young girls from Laos are "sold" into a kind of sexual slavery to brothels in NE Thailand (Isaan), by their parents who are desperate for money. The girl must work until she has earned enough to pay back this payment. In some countries, girls are kidnapped and sold into prostitution.

Though I have seen that this exists in NE Thailand, in my experience, the vast majority of service providers (in any country I have visited) are there by their own choice. But by claiming that all prostitution is by way of human trafficking, there is a better chance to wipe it all out, at least in places like Boston. What they fail to mention is that legalizing and regulating prostitution is another valid way of controlling human trafficking.

In the Boston Globe yesterday, Mayor Walsh said "In Boston, we will not tolerate buying or selling of human beings. ".

But selling sexual services performed by a willing provider for a willing customer does not amount to selling a human being, any more than getting a (clean) body massage is selling a human being. The opponents of prostitution have other reasons for trying to control it than human trafficking, but these reasons will not sway as many minds.

In the end, there is little any of us can do beyond being aware of this movement and making sure we are not snared.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/06/03/city-aims-reduce-prostitution-targeting-those-who-pay-for-sex/3RR2RtPPkF4Y2P7Ain0APO/story.html

[Deb4512]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2...w8K/story.html

I know you have already posted the original story. This is another one where the news reporter is offering his opinion on human trafficking and sex work. Maybe he doesn't realize this, but most of the escorts I'm familiar with are willing participants, not coerced like he suggests. Seriously, I didn't realize I was being coerced into escorting! Why don't they interview the SP's anonymously and see how many of us are being coerced?? Especially the SPs who are charging $300 an up and hour. This guy is an imbecile! He compares "johns" to reckless drivers. Also that the majority have criminal records. I see guys from all walks of life, from teachers, to doctors, lawyers, therapists and I doubt that most of them have criminal records! I wonder how they are coming up with these results. Now I can't understand if this article is implying that they will only be arresting the guys, not the SP's? Is it the end of taking one for the team? Too bad for the new ladies who are most likely getting into the business of their own free will. I know that trafficking must exist, because some of the SP's do have pimps, but I'm thinking it's the exception not the rule. If someone conducts a study that's more objective I wonder what the results would be? Although who in the heck would want to participate anyway?

[Deb4512]

I prefer doing full service GFE. Maybe it's because I feel more comfortable doing this. I don't mind some fetishes, but I don't advertise them on my ad and site. I couldn't imagine what I'd be asked to do LOL. I did advertise dom services, but took that down. I don't mind being dominant, but oftentimes with this service it involved humiliation too which isn't my thing. I did do a call where my client asked for domination with humiliation and all I could think was here I am with a be. A. In Psychology and a social worker trying to help people in need yet I'm abusing some poor guy who probably has a history of being abused or bullied. Maybe I'm wrong, but I cannot fathom why a guy would want me to call him a no good loser. And laugh at him and tell him he has a small penis when he jacks off in front of me. It was really weird for me. I shouldn't be judgmental I know, but it made me uncomfortable so I never did another session with him again. Now with domination fetishes they generally don't want to have sex, at least in my limited experiences. He wanted to jack off, not touch me. He didn't even want me to take my clothes off! I wore a long black goth dress and pointy black boots. He also wanted me to stomp on him and he paid me $300 for an hour. What do you guys think of this fetish?

So the financial domination client wants to be humiliated too! I forgot to mention this in my last post. He wants me to belittle him in private and public! Demand money for him and call him derogatory names in front of the people around us! It's just not my thing. I don't think I can see him anymore. Even without the humiliation I don't want to see this client. I've always been a workaholic, working for really low wages, but I did something meaningful. Providing GFE services is meaningful too. I really am making a positive difference in people's lives, don't you think? Most of the mentally ill clients and the adults I worked with drug and alcohol addictions never got better. It was damn frustrating when you want to see results from the work you do and sometimes the clients make no progress and even decline. Also I'm not used to money being handed to me without doing anything for it and to possibly bankrupt someone?? Not like I wouldn't want to win the lottery and if I had a sugar daddy, sure I'd go on vacations with him and if he wanted to give me an allowance that'd be great. But I'd plan to spend a lot of time with him in and out of the sack and I'd expect him to be able to afford me.

It's weird that the financial domination client picked me out of all the escorts on backpage. With some of these terrible service providers who want to rip the guys off, with pimps and such, this would be their dream job! Actually when you do see a SP and she isn't into it, upsells or tried to rush you, why don't you suggest she become a dom who offers humiliation as welli? It'd probably suit her more and the guys would be willing to pay more for her services. I don't know how many calls she'd get, but I'm pretty sure it's a popular fetish and not much competition on backpage.

Another unusual session involved a client who only wanted me to spank him while he laid face down on my lap. He wouldn't let me touch his cock. He put a condom on and jerked off into it while I spanked him. He wasn't there very long, maybe a little over half an hour to 45 min, most of the session he wanted to chat. He had bought me victoria's secret lingerie, and a card with the donation in it. I didn't open the envelope until after he left. He knew my donation was 125 hh and 200 an hour. He left me $475! I text him and thanked him profusely. The guys who want dom services seem to want to pay higher rates! So far that's my experience as limited as it is. I'm in Long Island trying to decide whether I want to escort or not. I'm not familiar with this area so it makes me uncomfortable (with le) That would really suck if I miss the races on Sat due to me being arrested! Anyway I hope everyone is doing well and Yellowfever I'm glad you are back from your hiatus! Xoxo.

[Skatar018]

I don't do many pm's because I put most of the info in my posts. I know many frown on that but oh well. When I 1st started on this fourm around 2005-06 everyone just posted info. We need to get back to that.

Agree with you Rito1, unfortunately not everyone is on the same page & as it's a free site the blowhard bullshitters get to post & clog the forums with their worthless & useless drivel.

Though most of the times I don't mind pm's as by & large posting phone numbers is not permitted & that makes up the majority of the pm's.

Other than that I agree with you & sure would like to see more reviews by everyone including those high level seniors that haven't done a review in friggin years & less yadda yadda yadda blah blah blah, myself included of course.

[Dh1610]

Come on be a good host. Invite the federal agent you were going to send to ADMIN's door. I will encourage admin to bring the two gorgeous girls he was going to have greet the agent. Think about it Ledger. Come on you can do it. Who knows maybe you could be a party planner. Now there I go again. See I have confidence in you. A general invite will be just fine. No need to send out lots of PM's.

Sorry, not going to happen. You two boys can circle jerk yourselfs because simply put you are bullshit. That is why you spend the majority of your pathetic lives on this degenerates boys forum talking about there sexual quests with hookers. Yes, dh and ss you are really someone admirable to look up to. The one word that fits both of you useless lowlifes is human scum. I.

[Dh1610]

It's okay with me if you want to be #1. But I guess that is up to Ledger to count the.

Votes. With his math skills any of us could end up in first place.

Numb Nuts, why do you keep putting ss after dh? I thought I was number one on your list, would you please put me first from now on. (Sorry DH, but I think I deserve to be # 1.

Numb Nuts, I was wondering, you had a list of about 5 of us that you said you were going to report us for being mean or some such serious charge. Now there are only 2 of us. Does that mean the other 3 have been dealt with properly and are now doing time, or worse? Have they disappeared, never to be seen again?

[Dh1610]

Ledger did you think this forum would be credits for your professional continuing education needs? Now there I go giving you a complement. I suggested you are a professional. You must be slightly confused. Or maybe more than slightly. This forum IS to discuss pussy.

If that's really what you think about this forum then why are you still sending PMs to me and still posting?

[Smoke Screen]

That is why you spend the majority of your pathetic lives on this degenerates boys forum talking about there sexual quests with hookers. .

If that's really what you think about this forum then why are you still sending PMs to me and still posting?