"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[ThaiGringo]

This may sound like rough advice, but set aside some time over the weekend and start reading from page one.

It'll take you many many many hours, but the posts will be invaluable.

You'll learn from others' mistakes and triumphs and the general progress updates.

It will be difficult to keep track of all the golden insights, but taking the time to read through all the pages will certainly start you off better than going in blind.

You'll make expensive mistakes when starting off, but may be able to avoid some after reading of everyone else's adventures.

I think that's great advice. Thanks. I will.

[Dolato]

but maybe separated by different topics that relate to the SD hobby, example sub-topics being things like Cost of Entry, Addiction, etc.

I was thinking about that too. The bowl has led me to looking at Fitness and Performance Enhancers so those may be good sub-topics as well.

I've realized that I don't have the stamina necessary for the SBs and that's actually been a motivating factor to getting in better shape. With the escorts, I figure for my money, they can do all the work while I just enjoy the (limited / rushed) time. With the SBs, I have to put in work and do it for much longer time period, even multiple times during overnights. I get winded and need to catch my breath, so I'm working on cardio for that. I've had a few instances where I'd get a muscle cramp in my leg as I'm putting in work from behind, so I've been doing in-home yoga stretches. I recall another poster here was a yoga practioner.

And when I'm with a SB all night, I've relied on a mail order product called magic for men that was recommened on another section of this site. The product is now off the web-shelf now but I'm looking into restocking as I'm running low. There's nothing like going at it all night and some more in the morning, then getting a text later in the day telling me how she's still sore down below.

I think this may have been off topic from the addiction discussion that's been quite riveting.

And lastly, I cheated and didn't read the entire thread, but I did do couple hundred I think of this and the local LA thread on the sugar bowl.

[JZLizard]

This may sound like rough advice, but set aside some time over the weekend and start reading from page one.

Man, I have nothing but respect for anyone who has the patience to do this, at 6300+ posts (some of which aren't brief). I tried once and I might have been able to do it over the course of a few nights if the server was cooperating, but loading the pages can be very slow at times, which just made it painful. The fact that the site sometimes modifies entries so that they don't read quite as smoothly as they might have originally been typed, modifying punctuation and such, can be hard on the eyes after extended periods of reading.

Another thing I found was that as I was trying to familiarize myself with who's who, a lot of the folks who posted early on are either no longer in the game or have new accounts. Maybe my problem is that I actually tried to read (and absorb) rather than just scan for highlights. But I just came to the conclusion the thread has grown too large. Even if I had read it all I wouldn't have retained and remembered everything I would have wanted to.

But yes, if anyone can do it there is lots of good info to be found. If only it weren't all lumped into one monolithic thread and were easier to sort through. Maybe the admins will consider starting a dedicated site for SD discussions, now THAT would really be useful. Not separated by city mind you (since I'm sure many of us have a working pussy-chasing radius of several hundred of miles or so), but maybe separated by different topics that relate to the SD hobby, example sub-topics being things like Cost of Entry, Addiction, etc.

[Dolato]

I've been exploring and considering the SD / SB arrangement. What kind of budget is a minimum to play? This may be out of my league, but I sure hope not! If anyone can direct me to info, it would be much appreciated!

This may sound like rough advice, but set aside some time over the weekend and start reading from page one.

It'll take you many many many hours, but the posts will be invaluable.

You'll learn from others' mistakes and triumphs and the general progress updates.

It will be difficult to keep track of all the golden insights, but taking the time to read through all the pages will certainly start you off better than going in blind.

You'll make expensive mistakes when starting off, but may be able to avoid some after reading of everyone else's adventures.

[HollywoodGuy]

I would just also caution those new to the Sugar Bowl. It's very tempting to go overboard and try to bang every attractive girl that messages you. After all it's literally jaw-dropping initially realizing all these young women (who aren't PROs) wanting to bang an older man. But if you're not careful you can quickly exhaust all your funds and find yourself in a bad financial spot. Your Bowl career will have ended before it really got started. So just take things in moderation. After all you'll realize there is a near endless supply of young women. Yes you may miss out on a young hottie this week, but there will always be another young hottie a month from now, 6 months, or even a year later from now. You just might need to use a slightly different method or goto a new site. But the Pandora's box has been opened and the Sugar Bowl is here to stay, so remembering that might help manage your addiction and keep it under relative control.

All true. All true. I started in the bowl with some funds but as the recession wore on the funds shrank dramatically. Just as I was learning the game, panic set in that I was not going to be able to continue due to my shrinking paycheck. Thats when I started doing the $ dates. More out of necessity than anything else. I am not knocking the big spenders, but when you date 20+ days a month you have to budget, if you are on a budget, or you will be out on your ass in no time.

The down side is, its unlikely I will have a date like Brother Deeds. And would like to be able to go that route if I feel like it. The up side is I found that no girl (except some utr's) are going to hang with you for a $ unless they really like you. And they will not be overall 9,s and 10's. They got a problem in some area. Either looks or skills may be lacking. The recession did make me up my game. I always counted on the money to get what I wanted and it worked a lot of the time, but not all the time.

Now I get more of what I want for less. If the time comes that I can pay more I will. Now I could easily get a 10 for $$. And many times I do get awesome girls for the $. But this place (and time in the bowl) has helped me a lot. One final note. I admit I am not big on the chase but I realize from all the stories here it can payoff sometimes. So I have been toying with a few NP's hoping for my reward in the end. It hasn't happened yet and my game seems to get thrown if I dont feel an instant attraction that leads straight to the FC. But I am trying it out anyway.

[Dandy Don]

Not that I am surprised. Figured it was too good to be true. Not sure if she was completely BSing me or her friend really did back out. Either way, my SB is on her way here (should be arriving in the next 30 minutes). I was bitterly disappointed when I got the news and originally said maybe we should cancel tonights date. I thought maybe showing disappointment might make her even more eager to please. But I failed to turn up any other possibilities, and since my SO is out of town, figured I better take advantage so invited her down. Now, I have had a couple of drinks and I am not much of a drinker so already feeling the effects. I think tonight we are going to push boundaries.

[DirtyDeeds38]

Interesting discussion lately on addiction.

There's often considered 4-5 stages of addiction.

Stage 1: Experimentation.

Stage 2: Regular Use.

Stage 3: Risky Use.

Stage 4: Dependence.

Stage 5: Addiction.

More info here on the actual stages: http://www.interceptinterventions.co...-of-addiction/.

They are mostly referring to substance abuse, but some behaviors and characteristics apply to us as well.

I'd say I'm probably between stage 2 and 3. I'm able to take breaks from the Sugar Lifestyle when I'm in a money pinch or other life issues come up before I'm in serious trouble. I take care of my regular responsibilities before sugaring. So I make sure I always provide first for my family. That said, I've had some close calls where an unexpected expense came up and I had less of a cushion because of my sugar activities. But I've never gotten to the point where I've decided to give money to sugar babies instead of putting food on the table. I'm still capable of taking 5-6 months off from the lifestyle voluntarily if I feel I need to without being forced.

However anyone who's read my reports here know that I sometimes engage in some risky behavior. But they're still managed risks and I haven't become completely reckless. Believe me, I've had plenty of chances to do way more crazy things or spend way more time and money on SBs, but I still try to do things in moderation. It's important to have self-awareness of what you're doing that way it's easier to catch yourself when you start to get out of control.

And we have to accept that a marriage one way or another is going to suffer while we do these activities. If you're trying to fix a marriage or preserve a good marriage, then the sugar bowl is probably not the way to do it. My SO completely let herself go physically and that was one of the big problems we had. I'm now banging 20 year-olds with 10 x hotter bodies and while I'm enjoying my time immensely, it's not exactly fixing that problem with the SO. In fact it's gotten worse because I now find my SO even less attractive now that I'm banging young hardbodies on a weekly basis. My SO does give me companionship on level that no SB I've met so far has really come close to yet. So I actually do appreciate the companionship aspect more from my SO than I did before.

Lately I've begun to take the old-school view of things. The SO is there to grow old with and you take on a mistress to make you feel young again. In many cultures mistresses are the accepted norm in society. It makes sense to me. Both fill needs that need to be met. You can't expect a SO to have a teenage hardbody forever. And it's hard to expect a 18-22 year old girl to have the life experience, maturity and wisdom of a woman 2-3 x her age. I know I've personally been a happier person the last couple of years since I've entered the sugar bowl. That said, my energy isn't a limitless pool and I'm sure certain aspects of relationships with my family have suffered while I've been juggling sugar babies and disappearing for hours at a time.

I would just also caution those new to the Sugar Bowl. It's very tempting to go overboard and try to bang every attractive girl that messages you. After all it's literally jaw-dropping initially realizing all these young women (who aren't PROs) wanting to bang an older man. But if you're not careful you can quickly exhaust all your funds and find yourself in a bad financial spot. Your Bowl career will have ended before it really got started. So just take things in moderation. After all you'll realize there is a near endless supply of young women. Yes you may miss out on a young hottie this week, but there will always be another young hottie a month from now, 6 months, or even a year later from now. You just might need to use a slightly different method or goto a new site. But the Pandora's box has been opened and the Sugar Bowl is here to stay, so remembering that might help manage your addiction and keep it under relative control.

Very solid words of wisdom here. And being new to this sugar thing, I've had these exact thoughts bouncing around my brain the past month or so. My biggest issue thus far is cutting them off and letting them down slowly when I want to move to the next. Some of these girls get downright clingy. When I was married a decade ago, I had a four year, full on affair that I got trapped into and wanted out. I appeased the mistress so she would be content and not come looking for me. It about broke me financially. If I kept her happy, she would lay low. Neither my SO or mistress knew of the other. So I have developed some incredible cover and covert skills that would rival any CIA agent's ability over the years. And that is no joke. We all lived in the same town to. It was an insane four years that taught me some harsh and valuable lessons about life in general.

With that said, I am mature enough and have enough self awareness to know this SB hobby will border quickly on addiction for me. It's like stepping into an entire world I've only dreamed of before and can be had any night of the week, anytime I want with just a little skilled communication efforts. It scares me in that sense. But right now, I'm a volume guy. I spent the vast majority of my higher testosterone driven years sexless with a wife who did not care to please or be sexual. This is sort of a makeup time for me. And that is where I scare my own self some.

I love pussy, I love enticing these girls and listening to them moan with pleasure, showing them sexual stuff they never knew about, giving them orgasms they've never had before and so far, all I've seen have wanted seconds. When I was a strapping young lad, built like a NFL linebacker in my 20's -30's I never got that. Hahah, Now I'm middle aged, still decent looking, but the pussy is falling from the trees around me. It's a great feeling brother!

[John G Smith]

Interesting discussion lately on addiction.

There's often considered 4-5 stages of addiction.

Stage 1: Experimentation.

Stage 2: Regular Use.

Stage 3: Risky Use.

Stage 4: Dependence.

Stage 5: Addiction.

More info here on the actual stages: http://www.interceptinterventions.co...-of-addiction/.

They are mostly referring to substance abuse, but some behaviors and characteristics apply to us as well.

I'd say I'm probably between stage 2 and 3. I'm able to take breaks from the Sugar Lifestyle when I'm in a money pinch or other life issues come up before I'm in serious trouble. I take care of my regular responsibilities before sugaring. So I make sure I always provide first for my family. That said, I've had some close calls where an unexpected expense came up and I had less of a cushion because of my sugar activities. But I've never gotten to the point where I've decided to give money to sugar babies instead of putting food on the table. I'm still capable of taking 5-6 months off from the lifestyle voluntarily if I feel I need to without being forced.

However anyone who's read my reports here know that I sometimes engage in some risky behavior. But they're still managed risks and I haven't become completely reckless. Believe me, I've had plenty of chances to do way more crazy things or spend way more time and money on SBs, but I still try to do things in moderation. It's important to have self-awareness of what you're doing that way it's easier to catch yourself when you start to get out of control.

And we have to accept that a marriage one way or another is going to suffer while we do these activities. If you're trying to fix a marriage or preserve a good marriage, then the sugar bowl is probably not the way to do it. My SO completely let herself go physically and that was one of the big problems we had. I'm now banging 20 year-olds with 10 x hotter bodies and while I'm enjoying my time immensely, it's not exactly fixing that problem with the SO. In fact it's gotten worse because I now find my SO even less attractive now that I'm banging young hardbodies on a weekly basis. My SO does give me companionship on level that no SB I've met so far has really come close to yet. So I actually do appreciate the companionship aspect more from my SO than I did before.

Lately I've begun to take the old-school view of things. The SO is there to grow old with and you take on a mistress to make you feel young again. In many cultures mistresses are the accepted norm in society. It makes sense to me. Both fill needs that need to be met. You can't expect a SO to have a teenage hardbody forever. And it's hard to expect a 18-22 year old girl to have the life experience, maturity and wisdom of a woman 2-3 x her age. I know I've personally been a happier person the last couple of years since I've entered the sugar bowl. That said, my energy isn't a limitless pool and I'm sure certain aspects of relationships with my family have suffered while I've been juggling sugar babies and disappearing for hours at a time.

I would just also caution those new to the Sugar Bowl. It's very tempting to go overboard and try to bang every attractive girl that messages you. After all it's literally jaw-dropping initially realizing all these young women (who aren't PROs) wanting to bang an older man. But if you're not careful you can quickly exhaust all your funds and find yourself in a bad financial spot. Your Bowl career will have ended before it really got started. So just take things in moderation. After all you'll realize there is a near endless supply of young women. Yes you may miss out on a young hottie this week, but there will always be another young hottie a month from now, 6 months, or even a year later from now. You just might need to use a slightly different method or goto a new site. But the Pandora's box has been opened and the Sugar Bowl is here to stay, so remembering that might help manage your addiction and keep it under relative control.

[DirtyDeeds38]

Hate to ask, but not counting the drinks and room, what was the donation? And also, here's to you, for giving us all some hope of better days to come.

Drinks were about $55, hotel was a comp with my points with the Hilton, otherwise it would have been a $169 for that room. I gave her $250. I think she is seeking a true relationship more than being a true SB. And I'm done with that nonsense for the time being. This whole SB deal honestly is what I've been looking for, for a very long time. As stated in the other posts, it's full on addicting, so I have to monitor that aspect.

[HollywoodGuy]

As posted yesterday, I had four options for the night and went with the sure bet. 38 year old mother of two. We met in Charlotte for a drink. I arrived first. She was right on time and as soon as she walked in I knew it was game on. This woman was fucking hot. Unbelievably so. Every man in the bar, with woman or not stared and she walked up to me. She was in a mini skirt, that revealed her more then average cleavage, legs for days, toned, fit, light tan, blue eyes and seriously the prettiest most perfect face I've seen on a woman in a very long time. She was blonde and obviously Swedish mix of some type. The woman was fucking stunning, a true, "woman's woman" and I wondered if I could keep up.

We sat and she drank. At first I thought she might be slamming them back at a good pace to help her "get through" what she was doing, but then it became apparent she enjoyed a good drink. She was well spoken, educated, classy, just plain fucking a pleasure to be seen with and talk to.

We had about five rounds of drinks, while she was touching my arm and leg in a lady like way and we talked. This told me she was game. So I popped the question if she wanted to get a room and without hesitation, she approved. During the walk to the hotel, we stopped and made out, passionately, her pulling at me, grabbing my cock, etc. We about did not make it to the room and I'm not kidding. LOL. In the lobby, during check in, same thing. DFK, heavy petting, everyone staring at this beauty with me.

Long story short, it was a solid 4 hours of head board hammering in the room. Every time I came and thought I could not muster up another round, she was on her knees sucking me hard again and then telling me to fuck her. We fucked in every possible position. Finally I had to tell her I was spent, had nothing left. She than turned sensual and all loving and cuddly on me. I rubbed her head and held her until she fell asleep. In the morning, it was another two rounds, but honestly, I lacked energy from the short night's sleep, drinking and that "not so fresh" feeling you have after a night of drinks and fucking.

As she got up to et dressed I was in awe of her beauty. This was not just a hot sexy woman, but the type that I would call a classic beauty. Nothing fake, hidden, or otherwise bullshit about her. Every part of this woman's body, face, skin, eyes and hair was perfect. I wondered why me. LOL.

I got a slight sense, of the ole, "what did I do" in the morning. Maybe a second thought about just having hooked up for a payment. But she agreed to see me again.

With a wonderful night, I still think I am opting for the younger girls. Something about their inexperience and feeling like a mentor that is just too appealing to me to give that aspect up. So as amazing as this woman was, I'm going back to the younger girls. But it was a very nice change of pace with a woman who was a fucking WOMAN in every sense of the word.

Hate to ask, but not counting the drinks and room, what was the donation? And also, here's to you, for giving us all some hope of better days to come.

[DirtyDeeds38]

As posted yesterday, I had four options for the night and went with the sure bet. 38 year old mother of two. We met in Charlotte for a drink. I arrived first. She was right on time and as soon as she walked in I knew it was game on. This woman was fucking hot. Unbelievably so. Every man in the bar, with woman or not stared and she walked up to me. She was in a mini skirt, that revealed her more then average cleavage, legs for days, toned, fit, light tan, blue eyes and seriously the prettiest most perfect face I've seen on a woman in a very long time. She was blonde and obviously Swedish mix of some type. The woman was fucking stunning, a true, "woman's woman" and I wondered if I could keep up.

We sat and she drank. At first I thought she might be slamming them back at a good pace to help her "get through" what she was doing, but then it became apparent she enjoyed a good drink. She was well spoken, educated, classy, just plain fucking a pleasure to be seen with and talk to.

We had about five rounds of drinks, while she was touching my arm and leg in a lady like way and we talked. This told me she was game. So I popped the question if she wanted to get a room and without hesitation, she approved. During the walk to the hotel, we stopped and made out, passionately, her pulling at me, grabbing my cock, etc. We about did not make it to the room and I'm not kidding. LOL. In the lobby, during check in, same thing. DFK, heavy petting, everyone staring at this beauty with me.

Long story short, it was a solid 4 hours of head board hammering in the room. Every time I came and thought I could not muster up another round, she was on her knees sucking me hard again and then telling me to fuck her. We fucked in every possible position. Finally I had to tell her I was spent, had nothing left. She than turned sensual and all loving and cuddly on me. I rubbed her head and held her until she fell asleep. In the morning, it was another two rounds, but honestly, I lacked energy from the short night's sleep, drinking and that "not so fresh" feeling you have after a night of drinks and fucking.

As she got up to et dressed I was in awe of her beauty. This was not just a hot sexy woman, but the type that I would call a classic beauty. Nothing fake, hidden, or otherwise bullshit about her. Every part of this woman's body, face, skin, eyes and hair was perfect. I wondered why me. LOL.

I got a slight sense, of the ole, "what did I do" in the morning. Maybe a second thought about just having hooked up for a payment. But she agreed to see me again.

With a wonderful night, I still think I am opting for the younger girls. Something about their inexperience and feeling like a mentor that is just too appealing to me to give that aspect up. So as amazing as this woman was, I'm going back to the younger girls. But it was a very nice change of pace with a woman who was a fucking WOMAN in every sense of the word.

[JZLizard]

I have addressed this before in this space and it is so true. In fact, I would venture to guess that most if not all guys in the Sugar world (including escorts, AMPs, cheaters) are addicts. I know I am.

An addiction is a dependence on a particular activity that makes your life unmanageable. This dependence usually leads to loss of control over one's life, and loss of family, loved ones, money, and sometimes jobs and ultimately one's life. Run while you can. I find myself not getting satisfaction from SO sex anymore. Sex with strangers, particularly hot young girls who I never had before is alluring and impossible to beat. Your SO cannot compete with the highs of this activity, so we are setting them up for failure.

I cannot wait until the next vaginal penetration, and I look at these girls as sex objects to be used for my enjoyment. Relationship? Not really. It's fun to have dinner and drinks, to squire them around to shock the housewives in public imagining their husbands doing the same thing. And to see the gleam of envy in the eyes of older men wishing they too had a size 2 hottie on their arm, and in their bed. Or you see that knowing glance from guys who are also in this world. " Good job Bro, you did well " I know they are thinking.

Why am I bringing this up? JL did, not me Haha. Thanks a lot brother. So I continue to search for that elusive "cheap" baby who can satisfy my needs, to feed the beast within me. To be the receptacle for my desires, and semen.

I believe that with enough practice, addictions can be manageable. When I was married, there was a period of about 3 years where I snuck out of the house 5 nights a week to go bar hopping and philandering. I was working from home so I had a lot of schedule flexibility, I would come in the house at 6 am many mornings, timing it perfectly before my ex woke up to go to work, yet never got caught cheating, not even once. Countless romps, countless beers consumed, countless hours spent in bars chasing multiple prospects at once and lining them up, giving each one the chance to satisfy my craving but only when I said when. Fucking them in my car if I couldn't find a place, or a hotel, or their place, wherever I could.

Unbelievably addictive. I became REALLY. FUCKING. GOOD at it. I had it down a science. This was back in the days before people used the Web to hook up, so nightclubs and bars were a pussy smorgasbord in those days in any large city.

In the end, despite never having being caught, it still cost me my marriage, a division of assets (OUCH! And a long period of time where I returned to exclusive civy dating, yet simultaneously realized what I had sacrificed in the process. How did the marriage end if I never got caught? Well because it changes who you are as a person, it affects your interpersonal relationships with others in ways you'll never see until it's too late. Karma is real.

Ultimately in reflection I realized where I went wrong. I lost control of my addiction. If you cannot summon the discipline to make yourself stop, it tells you all you need to know. It's just like the brakes have failed in your car. There will come a time when you need to slow the vehicle down quickly, and while that may not happen for some time, it's inevitable if you drive long enough. If the brakes don't do their job, you're fucked. It's the same with any type of addiction. If you cannot hit the brakes and stop the vehicle when you need to, you may not crash tomorrow but you will eventually.

So now, while I still think men were not designed to be monogamous, and I'm not pretending to stop all forms of cheating, I do "test my brakes" every now and then to be sure I can stop when I need to.

[FredMoore]

I have addressed this before in this space and it is so true. In fact, I would venture to guess that most if not all guys in the Sugar world (including escorts, AMPs, cheaters) are addicts. I know I am.

An addiction is a dependence on a particular activity that makes your life unmanageable. This dependence usually leads to loss of control over one's life, and loss of family, loved ones, money, and sometimes jobs and ultimately one's life. Run while you can. I find myself not getting satisfaction from SO sex anymore. Sex with strangers, particularly hot young girls who I never had before is alluring and impossible to beat. Your SO cannot compete with the highs of this activity, so we are setting them up for failure.

I cannot wait until the next vaginal penetration, and I look at these girls as sex objects to be used for my enjoyment. Relationship? Not really. It's fun to have dinner and drinks, to squire them around to shock the housewives in public imagining their husbands doing the same thing. And to see the gleam of envy in the eyes of older men wishing they too had a size 2 hottie on their arm, and in their bed. Or you see that knowing glance from guys who are also in this world. " Good job Bro, you did well " I know they are thinking.

Why am I bringing this up? JL did, not me Haha. Thanks a lot brother. So I continue to search for that elusive "cheap" baby who can satisfy my needs, to feed the beast within me. To be the receptacle for my desires, and semen.

[Rouleur]

I have seriously considered moving there. So many transient girls and college girls and of course hot girls, entertainers, etc. I went to a fetish party there once. It's every month and this girl who was a trapeze artist showed up out of curiosity, I snatched her up fast, played with her for an hour till she squirted on me a few times and then she bolted out the door. No goodbye, nothing. LOL.

Just a small example of "Vegas" I had a 18 year old Girl from Alabama, visiting Vegas with fellow High School Graduates, approach me near a Trader Joe's asking if I would purchase some adult beverages for her group. I had no doubt that she was selected to approach me, and whoever else, as she was like a young colt with long long legs that led to a tight ass and exposed stomach that wasn't overly cut but not soft either. Very perky breasts that basically said Hello to anyone in front of her. Beautiful smile and confident blue eyes that knew she was a hot young woman in a nasty nasty town.

I engaged in playful banter with her as I entered the store but made it clear I was not going to be the middle man for her group's Alcohol blast that night. She pouted in a way that said she wasn't really upset and I lost track of her as she went on to find another provider. A few minutes later, while I was staring at the fruit and thinking about the young ripe piece that had been so close to me moments before, the Girl showed up at my side again and said " I really like White Russians and, if later you buy me one, you might get lucky" with that she handed me a napkin from the Resort she and her group were staying at with her phone number on it. Without waiting for my reaction she turned around and sort of did that type of walk that kids do when they are really happy, sort of walking on the front of their feet with the heels barely touching the ground.

Guys, I am proudly very realistic about my looks and what I have to offer visually to women. I mean to say I am the most average looking late middle aged man you can imagine. I'm 56, grey hair, and a bit tall, 6'4" nowadays. I'm not currently in shape and no one would confuse me for one of the many retired pro athletes that live in this city. I was sure that the number was some kind of prank or set up for something really embarrassing. I had no idea that number was going to lead me to 48 hours of laughter, fun and sex with a girl I never imagined would be interested in spending time with me, much less ask me to let her drink my cum when we woke up together two mornings in a row.

I'm not very good at describing details so I'll save all of you from the misery. However the short answer to the question "why the hell me? 1. She was on her first trip away from her Parent's and Boyfriend. 2. She had been with her Girlfriend's father once when she was 17 and he "rocked her world, made her feel good" She was looking for another older Man to please her. And 3. She honestly wanted to have a "what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" experience that she could look back on when she returned to Alabama. I just happened to be the lucky Man who won her prize.

[ThaiGringo]

I've been exploring and considering the SD / SB arrangement. What kind of budget is a minimum to play? This may be out of my league, but I sure hope not! If anyone can direct me to info, it would be much appreciated!