The Massholes

[Deb4512]

"Asked her about her wearing one of the outfits in the picture and she said it would be extra." I found this on the discussion board in backpage I believe. WTF, why would wearing a certain outfit have to be extra? Maybe she needs to wash it and is charging the guy the cost of laundry detergent and the quarters it takes to do a wash and dry.

[Skatar018]

http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/B...3142_12401.htmIt's perfectly acceptable to hate me.A2.

You know when you die you're going to hell right, you do know that right, & for the rest of eternity you'll be locked down with these two loveies!

Oh yeah look at Hillary winking at A2 her new go to man cuz you know Billyboy did not have sex with that woman & she's hungry!

And Martha says if you ain't this big you ain't getting any, so enjoy it now it's has to last ya an eternity!

Rub my nose in this shit http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/B...3142_12401.htm, wait a sec do it again!

Always enjoy seeing what you bang A2.

[Admin2]

I don't equate niceness with being a pushover. Actually needy is what I don't like. I had a SD who told me how much he loved me over and over again made me want to puke! He also would call me so much, if I didn't answer right away, he'd call over and over again until I did answer and then asked me why I never called him LOL. I liked him at first until he became needy. When this happened I dump the asshole. Neediness is controlling behavior, pretending to be "nice" but they actually are assholes. Nice is not controlling. And being a pushover has nothing to do with being nice either. It's maybe fear of confrontation or fear of offending someone. I think SO is awesome and he doesn't have to kiss my ass, only if he wants to wink wink. As far as the admin, wow you are hot!! I really like your attitude. <3 I would have taken your first offer and then hand you back the extra cash you gave me if you showed me a good time.

45 bucks for an hour, front door, back door (though I don't go there with her, she's more than willing to do it but isn't into it, I told you I'm good to her because she's sweet) unFUCKINGbelievable BBBJCIwherever the fuck you want to C. I don't even think she has a gag reflex. I never know what she's going to be wearing when I open the door, and she comes like a freight train. (always my favorite part) Deb good providers always cum first and often with A2. I'm always happy when they like how I DATY but I'm doing it for me because I dig it.

http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts/B...3142_12401.htm

It's perfectly acceptable to hate me.

A2.

[Deb4512]

I don't equate niceness with being a pushover. Actually needy is what I don't like. I had a SD who told me how much he loved me over and over again made me want to puke! He also would call me so much, if I didn't answer right away, he'd call over and over again until I did answer and then asked me why I never called him LOL. I liked him at first until he became needy. When this happened I dump the asshole. Neediness is controlling behavior, pretending to be "nice" but they actually are assholes. Nice is not controlling. And being a pushover has nothing to do with being nice either. It's maybe fear of confrontation or fear of offending someone. I think SO is awesome and he doesn't have to kiss my ass, only if he wants to wink wink. As far as the admin, wow you are hot!! I really like your attitude. <3 I would have taken your first offer and then hand you back the extra cash you gave me if you showed me a good time.

[Admin2]

What I meant is that for men it becomes difficult to be objective once they become attached to a provider.

I had to come to South America to learn to be more "manly" for lack of a better word. I have learned that kissing asses never works with women, well unless I'm literally kissing their asses then a little tongue never hurt anybody but I digress.

Last night I was talking to this coffee shop girl, in any state in Sex Prison she would be considered a 10, maybe an 11.5'2" maybe 100 lbs, blonde hair to her ass, nice tight, TIGHT body, titties a little biggish for her frame. She was asking for 120 bucks for CBJ, front door / back door for an hour. Any of you guys would have jumped it in a second. However I'm not in that market, I'm in Buenos Aires, where a doctor makes 150 bucks for a 24 hour on call shift. A kid working at a 7-11 makes 600 bucks for a month, working 6, 12 hour days a week.

I looked her right in the eye and said "There are 30,000 sex workers in this town, of that 30,000, 3,000 are better looking than you. Of that 3,000,2900 of them charge less and will do BBBJ's, 1000 of them will let me spew on their faces if I want, I offered her 80 bucks, uncovered BBBJ covered sex for a minimum of 2 hours and she wouldn't get paid until she delivered.

She left in a huff and went and sat at some other table. I stayed where I was and after 5 or 6 Argentines offered her 60 bucks, she looked at me and nodded her head. I shook mine and offered 70. She took it.

Some people might think this was mean. I don't and I'll tell you why. I know what is customary for the market here in terms of price, hotness, and service. She misread me as another stupid tourist that she could overcharge and under perform. Her asking price was an insult so I responded in kind.

Do I support her right to charge whatever she wants, absolutely. As well as her right to decide what level of service she's comfortable with. No question, her body, her choice. Do I have to be a fucking lapdog and hope if I treat her right and give her everything she wants she might give me a good time? Fuck that, my pleasure is her fucking business. I can go way longer without pussy than she can without paying rent. Deb doesn't strike me as one but I have no fucking tolerance for these "princess" providers. Fucking gift lists! Are you fucking kidding me? I do the same thing here. If an advertiser wants to know the quickest way to get an ad deleted. Send me a PM asking me why their free ad hasn't been posted yet.

On the other hand I can be incredibly sweet to chicks that have a great work ethic. One of my steadies here that is always thinking up inventive ways to keep the hours fresh and interesting. (She puts my shoes on for me when I'm getting dressed) mentioned the other day that she wanted to improve her English. (Any would be an improvement, she speaks none) So the next time I was going to see her I stopped at a bookstore and picked up the first book in a self paced course in English and gave it to her. She's a sweetie that always takes good care of me, never asks for a thing besides the price, and goes out of her way. I'll reinforce that behavior everytime. What is key was she expected nothing and was really overwhelmed by the gift. I told her if she finishes it, I'll get her the next one in the series. Today when I stopped in she had the book and had worked the first couple lessons. After we were done we laid in the bed and I helped her with the stuff she was having problems with. To me it's all about who is being rewarded for what. I'm respectful and polite at all times but I refuse to behave in a way hoping to get the reward, or curry favor, that's their job.

Sorry, rant over.

[Yardape08]

While it may be an open thread I believe A2 has indicated that one main purpose was to keep the main threads focused on actual reviews and not get cluttered with all kinds of sidebars. Consequently since for example a thread already exists about "nostalgia" topics it would seem practical to slot that type of commentary there.

Personally I welcome a provider's viewpoint however one reason I was against providers posting was the inevitable sucking up that was sure to follow. I have been guilty of this in the past as well. It may be difficult for the males to maintain an unbiased posture towards females who post here and some may be hesitant to post a negative review for fear of reprisal. Deb, this is no reflection on you nor does it say that any member's comments about any personal experiences with you is not accurate or valid however that type of commentary is probably best suited for the Escort thread.

Just my opinions and in addition anything that gets posted here including the aforementioned topics that ignited this discussion are certainly open to being criticized as has happened today.

I actually tried to in and edit my post to add this but when I went in to edit the heading was there but the message was blank.

I just wanted to add that when some of the accusations of 'use' came to light with at least one of the 'agency' ladies you referred to (Brockton forum I believe) I was one of the ones who went toe to toe with the 'owner' about the issue. I had no qualms about letting her know that there was no place for having ladies in her employ who were dangerous and using. Whether she knew beforehand or not...the ladies in question were not around after those accusations surfaced. Now back to the stooges of Massholes.

When I gave my opinion of not having providers post here I fully admitted I was guilty of some sucking up in the past myself. I can be an imperfect Fucktard from time to time myself. And for full disclosure I am also occasionally guilty of being an incorrigible douchebag.

And if you re-read my post I was not just talking about some of the ladies who worked at the agency but rather the one you call the "owner". When I allude to possibly being put into a dangerous situation I am referring to those gentlemen here who would typically not see a provider if they knew there was drug use. Personally I will not automatically rule out a girl on drugs however I like to be fully armed with as much intel as possible before seeing someone. By danger I am not referring to physical harm per se but rather extenuating circumstances concerning this agency where there were reports of a man missing his wallet, another missing his watch and of course the time you saw one of them for an incall and your session I believe was interrupted by the girl's irate boyfriend threatening you I believe. We were all made aware on numerous occasions that the primary recruitment venue for the escorts who worked there was from the streets of Brockton. And we can easily extrapolate from there the Heroin and crack use and the inherent evils that accompany those who use these drugs that may end up affecting our safety and possible thievery when we use these girls for company.

I was made aware of IV drug use by the agency "owner" girl by separate sources one of whom was being recruited to work for them who took a ride with their driver, the "owner", and their star girl in the front seat where the "owner" was shooting heroin in the back seat of the car on the way to the outcall. My "friend" was just out of treatment for her own addiction and after this ride decided against joining the agency. Another girl who worked for them who I used to see on the side also commented about the same IV drug use by her. I brought up a story mentioned here where one of the girls was being reprimanded by the "owner" and my friend said "that's funny seeing that I've shot heroin with her myself". So to say that when drug use was brought to her attention by someone here and it was dealt with immediately becomes somewhat of a farce. Of course this is not your fault although this is what I mean can happen when we get into sucking up mode to the girls on here. Objectivity is often lost in the shuffle.

I know you are well respected here as an "Elder Statesmen" and I enjoy hearing of the tales of yesteryear with stories of the back of bowling alleys and other interesting places. You are certainly a veteran of the hobby and have offered both encouragement and wisdom to the masses here. Your reputation as a nice guy certainly precedes you and I have no doubt that you are deserved of this. But I also think it is important to view what we read here with a cynical eye and not be naive as often there is more to know about these girls we think we know so good lurking under the surface. I don't have nearly the years of experience as you in this hobby but what I lack in time spent in this particular game I try and make up in street smarts and that jaded view I sometimes have.

This is why this site is so important so we can continue to be armed with as much intelligence as possible and make informed decisions on who we want to see. I am always respectful to all the ladies I see but am also very much aware that I am a customer trying to maximize my investment and that doesn't mean I am cheap or owe them anything. I have met a lot of wonderful ladies along the journey. It is good we have this thread to air everything out and expose things from time to time in the interest of improving how we all go about the hobby.

[Yardape08]

Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).

The reference to "in men's pockets" is just a phrase Deb. What I meant is that for men it becomes difficult to be objective once they become attached to a provider. This is the context I was referring to. It is not a reflection of your intentions or money habits. It's refreshing to see you are thick skinned enough to hang out here. When I say I was against women posting here it was certainly nothing personal towards you.

[Hags Joe]

I don't think I'm going to use the "off the boat" phrase for a few years. Horrible disaster off Jeju / Cheju. If you see any Korean-American providers, please show sympathy.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/16/world/...ship-students/

[Stressed Out]

Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).

Ahh yes chivalry and respect...long lost and yes forgotten....after all this is the masshole board! You can't blame a gent for trying...Onward and forward we must go. Let's resume the back and forth on the number of postings and the quality of same. But I did try and bring something different here. Lesson learned and remembered and not repeated. Over and yes...out! SO.

[Stressed Out]

I actually tried to in and edit my post to add this but when I went in to edit the heading was there but the message was blank.

I just wanted to add that when some of the accusations of 'use' came to light with at least one of the 'agency' ladies you referred to (Brockton forum I believe) I was one of the ones who went toe to toe with the 'owner' about the issue. I had no qualms about letting her know that there was no place for having ladies in her employ who were dangerous and using. Whether she knew beforehand or not...the ladies in question were not around after those accusations surfaced. Now back to the stooges of Massholes.

[Stressed Out]

It seems clear that YF is pointing out the ceaseless Deb rumpswabbing obsession of Spermsac and in the heat of the moment used her ass as a metaphor. I suspect that your preference would be to have this become the Kumbaya thread however as has been pointed out everything is fair game here including Deb's ass. I know you have met Deb personally and formed a bond however in the past you have also been known to suck up to more than a few providers who were members here however they were providers you had never met and you went on and on about how great they were even though you had no personal experience with them. This can be a slippery slope as at least one of those providers was a known hard drug user masquerading as a respectable agency owner here and you may have put other members here in harms way as you continued to ignore others who pointed out the danger and fawned over her like she was the greatest thing that ever happened. I for one was against providers posting here because when women are in men's pockets here the lines are easily blurred.

Now here is a good and fair post. I have no issue with the rebuttal. And no I have no preference of this becoming the Kumbaya thread. And as has been pointed out everything is fair game in context but my opinion has been given on that.

Have I been known to suck (up) to a few providers in the past. Sure I have. I challenge you to go through all your posts and tell me that you haven't sucked up to any or passed on good words about them. I never have said I saw someone when I didn't. And you, I or any other poster here is guilty of reporting on providers that they haven't personally seen. Word of mouth is exactly that.....

As far as your accusation about putting others in danger. I think that is a little far fetched. Two of the most senior members and well respected gents were involved in that agency in one way or another. And yes I never saw the 'owner' of the agency and it was well reported by me. I reported on reviews and word of mouth about her and several of the girls she had in her agency. I actually met one of her girls for a session and other than young, inexperienced and naïve she wasn't a user at least IMHO. Did any of her girls (or her) use drugs...possibly / maybe / who knows. Did we read of any monger that was in danger from seeing her or one of the girls. Maybe I missed something during my hiatis but I don't remember hearing of anyone being beat up, landing in jail or getting anything from seeing her. But it would be naïve to think that most of the streetwalkers and strip club girls (esp the old Pink Palace girls) that we talk about aren't users. And I'd surely bet that many of the CL and BP ladies we read about and see aren't doing it for the pleasure of fucking horny guys like us but need the money to support some sore of habit. And truth be told whether we like it or not aren't we all supporting 'users' when we go to one of the spas that the owner collects all of the entrance fee and the girl works just for the tips. A waitress isn't even treated that 'badly'.

Now once again bravo for the post. It was well received and hopefully we will remain compadres here. And my apologies if I have brought up any 'delicate' issues. SO.

[Stressed Out]

Threads like this are a hard hat area. Anybody coming in, myself included, better check their safety equipment before coming in the door.

SO, while your chivalry is well placed, methinks Deb is no damsel in distress. I'm guessing she can break balls with the best of us.

There is no ruling that all posts must be antagonistic, however if somebody wants to hurl poo everytime the walk through the door they can. They will become known as an incessant hurler of poo though.

A2.

I thank-you for your guidance sir! It is well placed and informative. And yes I've got my hard hat on. I'm a big boy and can take anything as long as it is factual and deserved. And yes Deb is no damsel in distress..far from it. She is no shrinking violet. And she is absolutely good at / with balls in any situation including breaking them.

Your advice about antagonism is will be well heeded. Although it is better to be known as a hurler of poo than an eater of same.

SO.

[Deb4512]

Couldn't find it. For one, Stressed Out I doubt he's trying to suck up to women, I think that he is respectful towards women in general and although we all know what the board is geared towards he likes women and men to be treated in a respectful manner. Only thing is that this is the masshole board LOL. As far as me being in any man's pockets I'm the least so. Damn I care so little about money now, that I don't really care to promote myself. Only thing is that I'd stress out if I didn't have a popular advertising site to advertise on. Otherwise I'm not desperate for money, could care less about the money, because it doesn't have to be a priority for me anymore. When I first started escorting it was a different story back then. I'm not one of those escorts who blows their money on stupid shit then begs the guys to give them business because they can't pay their phone bills LOL. Not sure what you meant by being in a man's pocket though. LOL. Maybe pocket doesn't have anything to do with money. I like posting, because for one thing I can vent here about customers bad behaviors and get feedback from you guys and 2, I find so many interesting articles and resources for the guys here. I've been pming guys who are seeking information on various escorts, even seniors. I've been able to find out information various ways. I just thought I'd like to help out. I enjoy the hobbyists most likely more than the escorts (bad escort experiences on my end too).

[Admin2]

Hey Yellow..now we have a good rapport here on USA. Some good leads, info and good pm's. Now I don't give a care if you want to get your shots in here at Sperm. I've stayed here on the sideline enjoying the show. But I'm going to respectfully ask that you keep your shots to those that are involved and giving them. I certainly don't remember Deb getting involved or giving you any shots here during this 'war'. So don't bring her into the conversation especially with the comments you made. Again I am asking respectfully here and I expect the in kind return.
And before you ask yes Deb is capable of answering for herself however I would rather not put her in the position to have to do so. (other positions yes lol) Thanks SO.

SO, My shots were taken at Sperm Guzzler. As my esteemed fellow members have already stated any member is open game in this thread including myself. I think you have forgotten the rules of this forum and thread because what you are doing is telling me how to post, what I can say or not say and who I can say it about.

I haven't forgotten the rules of the forum. I didn't tell you how to post nor did I tell you what to say..I simply asked (politely) or stuck up for anyone (monger or provider) who gets an underhanded shot needlessly and w / out provocation. And if you check my posts you will see this has been done consistently over the past. I know the shots were taken at Sperm (how can we forget since it has been needlessly going on for at least a week) and we are ALL open game in this forum. But if I'm having a pissing contest with xxxx about an issue I have with him and I compare him to you and call you a cock sucking little dick of a man and you aren't involved in the pissing contest to begin with then you are going to have a problem with me. Right? That's all I ask of you and others. Now if our friend A2 finds this acceptable then I will be happy to oblige and take needless shots with every post I make in THIS forum. And acc to your logic this will be ok since you can't tell me what to say, who to say it to or under what circumstances to say it. And sadly I guess I'm off your good list.....too bad since we have shared some good info in the past.

And I do have a big ass, always have even when I was thinner LOL. And as far as eating corn, I am a vegetarian so it is possible. But to eat it? Not into brown showers, I don't partake in that fetish LOL.

Threads like this are a hard hat area. Anybody coming in, myself included, better check their safety equipment before coming in the door.

SO, while your chivalry is well placed, methinks Deb is no damsel in distress. I'm guessing she can break balls with the best of us.

There is no ruling that all posts must be antagonistic, however if somebody wants to hurl poo everytime the walk through the door they can. They will become known as an incessant hurler of poo though.

A2.

[Yardape08]

Hey Yellow..now we have a good rapport here on USA. Some good leads, info and good pm's. Now I don't give a care if you want to get your shots in here at Sperm. I've stayed here on the sideline enjoying the show. But I'm going to respectfully ask that you keep your shots to those that are involved and giving them. I certainly don't remember Deb getting involved or giving you any shots here during this 'war'. So don't bring her into the conversation especially with the comments you made. Again I am asking respectfully here and I expect the in kind return.
And before you ask yes Deb is capable of answering for herself however I would rather not put her in the position to have to do so. (other positions yes lol) Thanks SO.

Spermbag, the only purpose you serve here is to post useless commentary and eat the corn out of Deb's shit on your way to kissing her fat ass. Get back under your rock.

It seems clear that YF is pointing out the ceaseless Deb rumpswabbing obsession of Spermsac and in the heat of the moment used her ass as a metaphor. I suspect that your preference would be to have this become the Kumbaya thread however as has been pointed out everything is fair game here including Deb's ass. I know you have met Deb personally and formed a bond however in the past you have also been known to suck up to more than a few providers who were members here however they were providers you had never met and you went on and on about how great they were even though you had no personal experience with them. This can be a slippery slope as at least one of those providers was a known hard drug user masquerading as a respectable agency owner here and you may have put other members here in harms way as you continued to ignore others who pointed out the danger and fawned over her like she was the greatest thing that ever happened. I for one was against providers posting here because when women are in men's pockets here the lines are easily blurred.