AMP Discussion and Opinions

[Hypo Luxa]

I usually make appointments no more than two hours ahead of time. When I do, I always call to confirm again right when I'm about to leave for the establishment and let Mama know I am leaving. Also, with the ones that you call frequently that know you, you absolutely "must" call if you can't make it, but also when you might be just slightly late. It establishes a reputation that they can depend on you and honor your appointments.

I've only had two this year go awry. One was a legitimate mix up of two people taking an appointment for Monica--and she personally apologized to me with real regret. The other was not so nice though. That was when the Nirvana Mama extended a monger's session with Happy. That is totally unacceptable and I have yet to see either Happy or go to Nirvana again.

[Honolulu808]

Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.

If you are an unknown calling for an appointment sometimes that happens. When you call to make an appointment make sure the person on the phone knows who you are and that they have your phone number. Do not call any AMP with a blocked number, they tend to think one is calling around and most likely be a no show.

[Kalihi Kid]

Even though some providers ask me to call ahead and make a reservation with them in advance, I believe it is just a waste of time unless you are just walking in the door. If you call a couple of hours ahead all you are doing is letting the girl know that she might have a customer at the reservation time. If another guy walks in the door 5 minutes before your appt time they mp take him because they won't take a chance that you will be a "no show". As they see it, if you do show up at the appt time then you should be willing to wait while they "finish up" with the guy who walked in earlier. If you are dumb enough to wait, what you get is sticky seconds. I would like to hear other guys views on the subject of making appointments and whether is is worth it to do so.

[Hinode]

Yeah, solid advice. You are spot on about being careful that it doesn't turn into a full on addiction. Thanks.

I do that once in a great while too. When the funds are low and the bills need to get paid though, its back to the same ol S.O..that's why I like DT for the low (er) prices, but there are risks. Too many factors to mention.

I give the older braddahs props whoever get freebies. Congrats guys, you still on your mack A game!

H.

[Idusixtyning]

I was reading in the Tokyo Spa thread about providers who got the stink booty hole. These AMP girls need to wash their ass after they shit. I liked Aki at Roses my first 2 times with her but the 3rd time with her killed the joy. She got in a 69 position and it smelled like shit literally. So I wasn't interested in her no more after that session.

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And about these people who got a problem with AMPs. These "do-gooders" out there who try to force their way of thinking onto everyone else need to mind their own business and work on improving their own shitty lives instead. (That won't happen though). As long as it's a transaction between consenting adults then it's all good. (And that's all I've ever witnessed at the AMPs in Hawaii: a prostitute who wants to make fast money and me wanting to have convenient sex in exchange for her fee. It's a win-win situation as far I'm concerned).

However, I do think AMPs will be relatively tolerated in Hawaii due to our geographic isolation no matter what these "do gooders" try to pull. Because all the AMPs know the rules of the game. (For example that girls without GCs cannot work in the AMPs here). And they get checked on often enough. But then again, you never know with how the government tries to make a public enemy out of whatever they choose at the time. (To divert the public's attention from all the other phucked up shit going on). Just my opinion.

I second that on providers washing their okole after shitting. I've had that happen more than once in DS and it sure takes away the pleasure of the moment.

If the "do gooders" succeed in influencing government to shut down AMPs, then the AMPs or providers will simply go underground as there will always be a demand for their services. The only thing is that they will be more exclusive, smaller operations and most likely cost more. The top places or providers would probably be selective about their clients and only take good clients that are referred or screened. But providers will be around just like in any larger city in the US. For LE here, it is probably to their advantage to have AMPs in the open so that it is easier for them to monitor and control versus it going underground. Which is why I think it is left as is here.

[New Heavy Chev]

I was reading in the Tokyo Spa thread about providers who got the stink booty hole. These AMP girls need to wash their ass after they shit. I liked Aki at Roses my first 2 times with her but the 3rd time with her killed the joy. She got in a 69 position and it smelled like shit literally. So I wasn't interested in her no more after that session.

And fresh breath too. Brush those teeth and tongues bytches.

About AMPs becoming addictive. That can be the case as I know. It's a fantasy world where a sexy Asian chick in lingerie or a bikini walks in the room. And then she gets naked and does something strange for a little bit of change. So yeah, I've spent a lot of kala in the AMPs. (But not enough to cause any major problems with my finances). So thru experience I learned that it's about being able to control the urge to splurge and AMPing in a controlled manner.

And about these people who got a problem with AMPs. These "do-gooders" out there who try to force their way of thinking onto everyone else need to mind their own business and work on improving their own shitty lives instead. (That won't happen though). As long as it's a transaction between consenting adults then it's all good. (And that's all I've ever witnessed at the AMPs in Hawaii: a prostitute who wants to make fast money and me wanting to have convenient sex in exchange for her fee. It's a win-win situation as far I'm concerned).

However, I do think AMPs will be relatively tolerated in Hawaii due to our geographic isolation no matter what these "do gooders" try to pull. Because all the AMPs know the rules of the game. (For example that girls without GCs cannot work in the AMPs here). And they get checked on often enough. But then again, you never know with how the government tries to make a public enemy out of whatever they choose at the time. (To divert the public's attention from all the other phucked up shit going on). Just my opinion.

[Lonely Smiles]

So you went on a binge and got it out of your system. It is time to step back and evaluate if you want to continue down this road. There will be no happy ending if it became an addiction. Make sure you have a realistic budget and stick to it.

Yeah, solid advice. You are spot on about being careful that it doesn't turn into a full on addiction. Thanks.

[Ocolumbo]

Alright gents, here are my cliff notes / recon from having more sex in the past 3 months than I've had in my entire life up to this point:

The good:

Kelly. Ichiban (great over all GFE, TS second to none, review in Ichiban thread).

Lee / Sugar. Empire (My ATF, just back from NY, she used to work at Mayflower as 'Lee'. Full review in Empire thread, YMMV).

Happy. Kison (great experience if you are looking for GFE / P.S.E w / BB everything. Review in Kison thread).

Yuki. Tokyo Spa (provides a very memorable B2 B TS, up there with Kelly's. Yuki also has a very young innocent look to her and a pretty face. However, she is quite petite and you can tell when she is sore or would rather not have another cock inside her. Bigger is not better with her).

And everyone else:

Vivian. Mayflower (6 times, Russian roulette with this one. Sometimes awesome, other times cold and distant. See review on Mayflower thread).

Chanel. Empire (to satisfy my curiosity about greek, would not repeat. She was also sick with a bad cold when I went to see her. I should have left).

2 girls at Sunflower (Mia and one I forget. Neither memorable. Both sessions were short, once I popped they cleaned me up and there was no cuddling etc after).

Olivia. China Doll Spa (10 on looks, but has rules, doesn't like kissing, and was mechanical with me. Would not repeat).

Julie. China Doll Spa (also great looks, the new pictures are actually her, better service than Olivia, but really not the GFE I was looking for. Only LFK and the table shower had 0 body to body. So meh).

Skye. Ichiban (older, not as attractive as Kelly. However, great service including BBFSCIP x 2, and a reasonable TS. Just ultimately not my type. I don't think I'll repeat).

Maya x2. Independent in CC (technically they rotate girls, so you won't really know who you are getting until you show up the appointment. Ok sessions, Maya was actually my very first foray into the AMP world, I was so nervous I lost my erection LOL).

I think I've reached the point where I will go with a sure thing vs. Trying to explore further. I've had more sessions where I wish I had saved my money. However, with my top 4 and my ATF in particular, its definitely time and money well spent. Happy hunting gents.

So you went on a binge and got it out of your system. It is time to step back and evaluate if you want to continue down this road. There will be no happy ending if it became an addiction. Make sure you have a realistic budget and stick to it.

[Lonely Smiles]

Alright gents, here are my cliff notes / recon from having more sex in the past 3 months than I've had in my entire life up to this point:

The good:

Kelly. Ichiban (great over all GFE, TS second to none, review in Ichiban thread).

Lee / Sugar. Empire (My ATF, just back from NY, she used to work at Mayflower as 'Lee'. Full review in Empire thread, YMMV).

Happy. Kison (great experience if you are looking for GFE / P.S.E w / BB everything. Review in Kison thread).

Yuki. Tokyo Spa (provides a very memorable B2 B TS, up there with Kelly's. Yuki also has a very young innocent look to her and a pretty face. However, she is quite petite and you can tell when she is sore or would rather not have another cock inside her. Bigger is not better with her).

And everyone else:

Vivian. Mayflower (6 times, Russian roulette with this one. Sometimes awesome, other times cold and distant. See review on Mayflower thread).

Chanel. Empire (to satisfy my curiosity about greek, would not repeat. She was also sick with a bad cold when I went to see her. I should have left).

2 girls at Sunflower (Mia and one I forget. Neither memorable. Both sessions were short, once I popped they cleaned me up and there was no cuddling etc after).

Olivia. China Doll Spa (10 on looks, but has rules, doesn't like kissing, and was mechanical with me. Would not repeat).

Julie. China Doll Spa (also great looks, the new pictures are actually her, better service than Olivia, but really not the GFE I was looking for. Only LFK and the table shower had 0 body to body. So meh).

Skye. Ichiban (older, not as attractive as Kelly. However, great service including BBFSCIP x 2, and a reasonable TS. Just ultimately not my type. I don't think I'll repeat).

Maya x2. Independent in CC (technically they rotate girls, so you won't really know who you are getting until you show up the appointment. Ok sessions, Maya was actually my very first foray into the AMP world, I was so nervous I lost my erection LOL).

I think I've reached the point where I will go with a sure thing vs. Trying to explore further. I've had more sessions where I wish I had saved my money. However, with my top 4 and my ATF in particular, its definitely time and money well spent. Happy hunting gents.

[Ocolumbo]

Back then, the years leading up to the battle of the Pacific (ww 2), we had a buildup of troops here on the island in anticipation of the Japanese offensive. They'd get stationed here, awaiting for orders into the theater, 18,19 year olds thousands of mile from home, in their minds they were about to be thrown into a world war (they were right), but for the time they were here (over a million soldiers rotated in and out of the islands for the duration of the war) it was considered rest and relaxation until further notice. The military (federal government) were having trouble with the state police over the soldiers behaviors, state police and locals were upset with these red necks coming here getting blasted, hitting on all the women, fist fighting with the men and other behaviors leading to arrest (which put a heavy workload on the state ploice, which they didn't appreciate), finally the military (federal government) under pressure from state officials, came up with a proactive effort, mainly included an unofficial sequesturing of the soldier to the chinatown district, which included sending the mp's (military police) to places where soldiers were known to hang out (same places they were arrested), the bars and brothels (chinatown), soon after the mp's arrived their pro active approach lead them to become the security at the brothels, this way they were now in charge of the soldiers behaviors (to appease the state police) or at least take care of their "own", which also meant keeping them out of state courts as well (they were losing soldiers due to court concerns), after a few years of this the state officials caught wind of this "arrangement" the mp's had with the brothel owners and became upset and annoyed and worst of all, were making noise, the kind of which the military (federal government) did not need as sentiments from the locals toward the military were already strained, with the history of Hawaii (monarchy), the military invasion, treatment of locals by soldiers and now this the mp's (fedral government) were running the brothels, the military could not be involved with the brothels in any way, they feared that would be the last straw, so the mp's were instructed to hand over the brothels to the staste police in particular they were handed over to a special group of state police, the "vice and virtue unit" were their names and what later became known as honolulu vice squad and is now known as the see. Are. You. (crime reduction unit). So you are right prostutition in Hawaii has been tolerated even regulated by the mp's (that's our federal government), they came up with the standard fee a provider could make off of one soldier, I mean off of a "john", now as for the reason why it's been tolerated here is up for debate, would people here be upset more than any other state in the union? Can't see why we would be, what could we possibly say, what's grounds could we be upset about, if it's the law were upset about we would be on our lawmakers besides wouldn't we have done something by now? I don't think they are afraid of revolt but prostitution and the running of them have been run by law enforcement be it federal and or state, many of whom have retired now. From law enforcement anyway.

All this may be true, and we can add more color found online, such as the 3 min sessions and the scandal caused by one provider moving into an upscale neighborhood. The difference between then and now is militant feminism, and organized rescue groups federally funded in bed with church ladies, vested interests of fund raising based on propaganda of coercion and trafficking. Resulting in a twisted scenario where the lack of coercion and human trafficking among the Asian women is seen as a threat to the fundraising model rather than something that is good. Then you only had prudish church ladies. Now nobody cares about prudish church ladies, but they fund the operations of uncompromising and fanatical militant ideologues with organized propaganda, friends in the media and politically correct support. There is only so much Tracy Ryan of the Hawaii Libertarian party and her colleagues could do to withstand this prohibition juggernaut. So do not be complacent and take things for granted based on history.

[Lowlys One]

Prostitution will always be relatively tolerated in Hawaii or else their would be trouble on the islands. (The same reason the USA government will continue to give welfare to poor people so they'll have something to eat to keep them from revolting against the government).

(They'll make token laws here and there to satisfy the hypocritical "moralists" and crusaders though).

On the Korean grapevine it's known that Hawaii is a good place to work in the relaxation business. However, they also know that the one mandatory requirement to work here is a greencard. That's the shit they're absolutely strict about here.

I heard in Cali that they got the younger no GC girls working there. I don't know if that's for true but that's what an AMP girl here told me. However, I've only been to one AMP in Cali in my life and I didn't see no young girls. (I had went to an AMP in Hollywood I found in their equivalent of the Pennysaver. And it was an older Korean lady I got. And she wanted the tip upfront for FS. And I explained to her that I'm from Hawaii and we tip after at the relaxation where I'm from. And she retorted that this isn't Hawaii, it's California. And I replied, "Yeah, but I'm from Hawaii. I do it Hawaiian style". So I only ended up getting a massage for the house fee).

Back then, the years leading up to the battle of the Pacific (ww 2), we had a buildup of troops here on the island in anticipation of the Japanese offensive. They'd get stationed here, awaiting for orders into the theater, 18,19 year olds thousands of mile from home, in their minds they were about to be thrown into a world war (they were right), but for the time they were here (over a million soldiers rotated in and out of the islands for the duration of the war) it was considered rest and relaxation until further notice. The military (federal government) were having trouble with the state police over the soldiers behaviors, state police and locals were upset with these red necks coming here getting blasted, hitting on all the women, fist fighting with the men and other behaviors leading to arrest (which put a heavy workload on the state ploice, which they didn't appreciate), finally the military (federal government) under pressure from state officials, came up with a proactive effort, mainly included an unofficial sequesturing of the soldier to the chinatown district, which included sending the mp's (military police) to places where soldiers were known to hang out (same places they were arrested), the bars and brothels (chinatown), soon after the mp's arrived their pro active approach lead them to become the security at the brothels, this way they were now in charge of the soldiers behaviors (to appease the state police) or at least take care of their "own", which also meant keeping them out of state courts as well (they were losing soldiers due to court concerns), after a few years of this the state officials caught wind of this "arrangement" the mp's had with the brothel owners and became upset and annoyed and worst of all, were making noise, the kind of which the military (federal government) did not need as sentiments from the locals toward the military were already strained, with the history of Hawaii (monarchy), the military invasion, treatment of locals by soldiers and now this the mp's (fedral government) were running the brothels, the military could not be involved with the brothels in any way, they feared that would be the last straw, so the mp's were instructed to hand over the brothels to the staste police in particular they were handed over to a special group of state police, the "vice and virtue unit" were their names and what later became known as honolulu vice squad and is now known as the see. Are. You. (crime reduction unit). So you are right prostutition in Hawaii has been tolerated even regulated by the mp's (that's our federal government), they came up with the standard fee a provider could make off of one soldier, I mean off of a "john", now as for the reason why it's been tolerated here is up for debate, would people here be upset more than any other state in the union? Can't see why we would be, what could we possibly say, what's grounds could we be upset about, if it's the law were upset about we would be on our lawmakers besides wouldn't we have done something by now? I don't think they are afraid of revolt but prostitution and the running of them have been run by law enforcement be it federal and or state, many of whom have retired now. From law enforcement anyway.

[Ocolumbo]

Korean wireless says that LE visited Nirvana and Roses, after midnight last Friday. No details, as the AMP's don't like to talk about it. Maybe they think it will scare away the mongers. Personally, I think those places are the safest right after LE raids them.

Why would it be not safe anytime? Did LE plant an undercover cop as a provider who would bust you for soliciting? Do you have an outstanding warrant for your arrest? If not, why worry about anything.

[Asstro]

Korean wireless says that LE visited Nirvana and Roses, after midnight last Friday. No details, as the AMP's don't like to talk about it. Maybe they think it will scare away the mongers. Personally, I think those places are the safest right after LE raids them.

[New Heavy Chev]

Prostitution will always be relatively tolerated in Hawaii or else their would be trouble on the islands. (The same reason the USA government will continue to give welfare to poor people so they'll have something to eat to keep them from revolting against the government).

(They'll make token laws here and there to satisfy the hypocritical "moralists" and crusaders though).

On the Korean grapevine it's known that Hawaii is a good place to work in the relaxation business. However, they also know that the one mandatory requirement to work here is a greencard. That's the shit they're absolutely strict about here.

I heard in Cali that they got the younger no GC girls working there. I don't know if that's for true but that's what an AMP girl here told me. However, I've only been to one AMP in Cali in my life and I didn't see no young girls. (I had went to an AMP in Hollywood I found in their equivalent of the Pennysaver. And it was an older Korean lady I got. And she wanted the tip upfront for FS. And I explained to her that I'm from Hawaii and we tip after at the relaxation where I'm from. And she retorted that this isn't Hawaii, it's California. And I replied, "Yeah, but I'm from Hawaii. I do it Hawaiian style". So I only ended up getting a massage for the house fee).

[Genji 808]

I agree master genji san. Hehe. It happens though when you been around the block and you don't get as easily excited now compared to when you first started as a noob. You also tend to compare the looks and service level of the providers you had before to the providers now. A provider maybe young and looks pretty but, her service level is just mild / conservative that you don't bother. Another provider may offer alot on the menu but then, you not attracted enough to her looks. This sounds like how the hostess bars are now. Same thing. However, I'm still glad to know that they are still there though.

My man, brother Uki, the legend LOL. I can't say that your assessment is not accurate. I guess we need to just keep our ears on the ground and keep on trying what the AMPs have to offer.

We count our blessings is what we do. We do not take anything for granted. A fortuitous combination of circumstances, of history, culture, demographics, and location has given this American city the best AMPs for mongering in the country. But nothing is set in stone or guaranteed. There are people whose primary purpose in life is to see the AMPs disappear. One is running for congress, and her victory would be an existential threat to the whole AMP system. So I count my blessings. If you are jaded, then away for awhile. But do not take anything for granted.

Hmm. I see wisdom in your words. I do realize that "lucky we live hawaii". I would not call it being jaded though. Perhaps, I need to be more patient that another gem is around the corner.

I hear you bro. I've been asking myself the same question too but for different reasons and circumstances. I've been in a funk for the past couple weeks. I know what I should do to get out of it and was ready to do it but everyday I waver on what to do and it's killing me. I thought I was a lot stronger than that, but my resolve is weak. Idk if it's the holidays or not. Maybe I got to find myself a new hobby like lawn bowling or knitting *yawn* LOL.

LOL, cheers man. Other hobbies you say? Once you're in this hobby, that's it. In for life!

How about Vivian and Olivia?

Thank you for the suggestions brother L1234! I have seen the Vivi and have repeated multiple times. Out of respect to her fans, suffice to say that she no longer does it for me which is unfortunate since she had potential. I haven't seen Olivia but I do remember reading good things about her in the 7 and CDS thread and from other monger bros via PM. She's on the recon list for sure.