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04-01-14 14:41 #3840Senior Member

Posts: 380Massage business & Bodywork business in MASS
Whether we like it or not the facts and requirements are clear if you take the time to understand them. I know them well. I have even gone in person in Boston to the License Board with one of the girls that operates an AMP in Mass currently and spoken with a dual speaking Chinese / English staff person. To operate a massage business and advertise as such or in anyway use the word massage requires a Mass license. Even an owner holding a legit license does not give them the ability to employee girls without a Mass license. Exception is if the employee only indicates they do bodywork and NOT massage. When I discussed this point to death with the license board staff member she even went so far as to suggest the girl might display a sign on her clothing indicating bodywork only! LOL Can't you picture that! All nonsense aside my point is there is little to no wiggle room if and when a massage business is blessed with an inspection.
Remember "massage" is controlled by the State not the local towns at least as of recent years. Bodywork is not controlled or not really even clearly defined by the State. This is the grey area that the typical AMP lives in. Now some towns, Arlington as of last October, has enacted their own town wide bodywork regulations. The only real State involvement has been the insurance inspections that were going on last year, more as harassment than anything else in my opinion. During those inspections they State inspectors also had the opportunity to catch them in the use of the term "massage". Bodywork in most towns has only required a simple business application in the local town offices that usually amounts to nothing more than a few buck and name address etc. Some of the AMP's are owned by Mass license holding individuals but they have specifically chosen not to register the business as a massage business because there are implication including fines a possible loss of license when inspections occur. Many bodywork places use the word massage and it never matters until an inspection. Just like anything else-it doesn't matter until it is a problem and then at a minimum they have to pay a fine.
Originally Posted by SpermSac
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04-01-14 12:13 #3839Senior Member

Posts: 1249If thats the case with Leeza....
Why oh why didn't she call her service "bodywork" and skirt the massage regulations like dozens of AMPs do? I don't get it. As for LMT's in the same building, I can't say I blame them if they complained. Making a go of a legit massage business with a jack shack down the hall, at a minimum, creates animosity. Moving away from direct licensed competition would have made more sense than trying to fly UTR.
ARG.
Originally Posted by NYJimmy
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03-31-14 10:05 #3838Senior Member

Posts: 2120
Originally Posted by Skatar018
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Yes, brother, actualy PM ing with a low number poster now and its been back and forth with nothing. Life is too short, put the info down and walk away to the next one.
Originally Posted by Ccup2
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03-31-14 10:00 #3837Senior Member

Posts: 1417ok stop the PM's especially from those that should not ask
Okay I have had enough...first if you only have a handful of reviews you should know that I will likely not respond unless your few are quality. If you have more and they are always asking for 411; or more details etc...I will likely not respond. I do this actually for your safety and that of the providers as I do not want to draw the wrong attention and you should not want that either.
Originally Posted by Ccup2
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So do the searchs go to the places and write a detailed review. Its not that hard. Do not mean to be a prick but some of you I guess just do not get it.
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03-31-14 09:55 #3836Senior Member

Posts: 195Buisness license
The crap they have to go thru to be legit or licensed in Taxachusetts.
Originally Posted by NYJimmy
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Bad loss for us.
http://www.mass.gov/ocabr/licensee/dpl-boards/mt/
FACILITY (ESTABLISHMENT) LICENSURE: Massage establishments must now be inspected before the Board will issue an establishment license. If you wish to submit an application for a single therapist or multiple therapist massage establishment, please go to the Applications and Forms page to download the application. Please be advised that upon receiving your completed application and all required documents, the Board will review your application to ensure that you meet all the requirements for licensure prior to forwarding your application to the Office of Investigations to schedule an inspection. A Board investigator will then contact you to arrange an inspection. Please note that establishment licenses are required for facilities that offer massage therapy, unless exempted from licensure per the Board's regulations. Operation without a license may incur fines of up to $1,000 for a first violation of the regulations. For further information, please review the Boards regulations on Facility Licensure at 269 CMR 6.00.
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03-31-14 08:19 #3835Senior Member

Posts: 25I concur, personal favorite of mine if I'm in the area. Still only 3-4 girls. Seen mixed reviews on this forum but I've always left satisfied.
Originally Posted by SmokeScreen
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03-30-14 21:18 #3834Banned Member

Posts: 792Story unfolds
OK if she was hit for performing massages without a Mass license that would be cause.
Originally Posted by NYJimmy
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I believe in Mass it is a $1,000 fine and the Dept of Industrial accidents or State Licensing Board would be involved.
She may have some legal avenues being licensed in another state but without that Mass tag they got her.
Not sure if she can go under the title Body Works or Body Rubs. She would need to research that out.
That SUCKS!
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03-30-14 21:07 #3833Senior Member

Posts: 122Leeza
I made a 3 hour round trip to see Leeza and after the appointment had only one thought. . . Heaven is missing an angel. . . And the angel's name is Leeza! Wish her nothing but the best.
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03-30-14 19:33 #3832Senior Member

Posts: 105Leeza
I do not know if there were complaints, it is possible. However, I did talk to Leeza that day after she was shut down.
Originally Posted by SpermSac
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She was told she was practicing massage without a license. So, she was shut down and given a fine and banned from.
Practicing in MA. She has a NY state license, but that does not work here.
I am not sure what she will do, but I will let you know if any thing new happens or what she will decide to do.
Jimmy.
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03-30-14 15:20 #3831Banned Member

Posts: 792other LMT's
Having other LMT's in the same general building or area generally generates jealousy. We won't know until either she or someone close to her reveals what happened.
Originally Posted by SecretSquirell
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Let's hope it's minor.
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03-30-14 10:35 #3830Senior Member

Posts: 60Landlord gets complaints
Leeza is great but I agree with SS, other LMTs in the same building are offended by MPs offering 'more' and they complain that it has cost them business too. I'm sure they present the information to the landlord and she probably got evicted! If the lease were not renewed she would have had some notice and most likely setup business in a new place and let her customers know she was moving.
Originally Posted by SecretSquirell
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By simply showing the landlord her advertisements and written reviews from this and other sites is usually enough for the landlord to act. Perhaps the landlord sent someone in UC to confirm the allegations.
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03-30-14 07:58 #3829Senior Member

Posts: 677Could be landlord
Could be as simple as her lease ran out and the landlord decided not to renew. There are 3 or 4 other strictly therapeutic LMTs in the building and those types tend to find just the fact that some MPs offer senual highly offensive. Maybe some complaints from other tenants who knew what she was offering.
Originally Posted by SpermSac
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03-30-14 07:39 #3828Banned Member

Posts: 792Leeza
I've searched all available online and nothing under arrests so it has to be some form of infraction under local zoning.
Originally Posted by Newday53
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03-30-14 07:24 #3827Banned Member

Posts: 1701Yup, been a few times just after they first opened. They moved from Revere Beach to Ferry St. A while ago. Nice clean, neat place, good service. At that time there were 3 or 4 girls working there, they come in all sizes, most, but not all have the Brazilian butt.
Originally Posted by Catnibbler
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03-29-14 23:38 #3826Senior Member

Posts: 375Wow
Times are getting tough in MA if Leeza got shutdown. Talk about victimless "crime". Leeza could not be a sweeter woman to anyone. Someone's got to stop that frustrated bi!#h Coakley. Leeza once told me that the town knows exactly what she does, has even sent in UC and she treated them the same way she did all her customers. Her understanding was that as long as she worked alone (not "deriving income from prostitution") she would be left alone. And obviously she was for years. This puritanical BS IS CRAZY.
Originally Posted by SpermSac
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ND.






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