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[FMichaels4533]

I've seen Remmy at her new digs very recently. No LEO in sight. Felt very safe and secluded. A cruiser went past while I was parking and he didn't even give me a second look. I don't think cops are going to try to "scare" clients. They don't announce themselves unless they can make a bust. Just sayin'.

After seeing all the hoopla about LEO hanging out at Remmy's place and her latest post, I decided to call her. Saw her for a hour of bliss. She explained what happened and I belive her. She claims it was an asshole who lives in her motel giving her a hard time for not giving it away for free. If you know Remmy, you would believe her side of this story. Go see her in her new place!

[Gunman2013]

I hear what you're saying. But there's no way I'd ever have a provider at my house, which effectively puts me back at a hotel anyway. I've seen providers about 5-6 times at their apartment or house and that worked out okay. But then you run the risk of nosy neighbors who may be taking pictures of you or your car before calling LE. Assessing all the scenarios gets exhausting after a while.

Wow all of this has brought up alot of discussion. I wouldn't have a provider at my house as well not that there aren't a few I truly trust a very few (you know who you are and 1 I hope to know wink wink) but my neighbors.

[BigMike77]

Although helping her get her own place might seem like a noble thing to do, the place has to go in her name and she has to either have the credit or the means to support that place or it falls back on the person that has their name on the lease contract or whatever. Unfortunately most guys are not willing to take that chance. Getting an apartment requires a credit rating or proof you can pay the rent, and if she has problems getting a hotel room because everybody knows about her line of work then that means the hotel room has to be in a mongers name, if she takes a fall for prostitution then that opens the person who has the room in their name to a charge of promoting prostitution. Or an unwelcome phone call from our uncle asking a whole lot of awkward questions.

And plus it seems like every time a monger jumps in and does something for most of the girls in need it ends up biting the monger squarely on the ass. As nice a jester as that might seem its something I personally would distance myself from.

Look like she moved.

[Member #4506]

I hear what you're saying. But there's no way I'd ever have a provider at my house, which effectively puts me back at a hotel anyway. I've seen providers about 5-6 times at their apartment or house and that worked out okay. But then you run the risk of nosy neighbors who may be taking pictures of you or your car before calling LE. Assessing all the scenarios gets exhausting after a while.

Before finding this site just little while back. I been working in this hobby about tens years and done it all different ways. House visit never a problem. More problem with gals at hotels robbed and assaulted. Le must be stepping it because that never been a problem. The last three or four weeks I changed my mind. I'm for helping anyone out but its like giving to charity. I only know of two gals around after ten yrs. The gals situation is good one minute and chaos the next. Stay safe.

[Member #4637]

So, let me get this straight. LEO is spending valuable resources day and night to gather surveillance video and intel to take down Remmy (or any other provider--I've heard this story before) AND not making any arrest while harassing guys in public with all the valuable "intelligence" they've gathered on these hardened criminals?

And you all believe this bullshit?

After seeing all the hoopla about LEO hanging out at Remmy's place and her latest post, I decided to call her. Saw her for a hour of bliss. She explained what happened and I belive her. She claims it was an asshole who lives in her motel giving her a hard time for not giving it away for free. If you know Remmy, you would believe her side of this story. Go see her in her new place!

[Countryboy72]

I hear what you're saying. But there's no way I'd ever have a provider at my house, which effectively puts me back at a hotel anyway. I've seen providers about 5-6 times at their apartment or house and that worked out okay. But then you run the risk of nosy neighbors who may be taking pictures of you or your car before calling LE. Assessing all the scenarios gets exhausting after a while.

Apts. Or wherever, parking a ways away and walking sometimes brings less attention. And danger of one getting your license plate.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

I've said this many, many times: hotel incalls are a bad idea. I understand that these are lower cost and higher convenience, but they are far riskier for everyone involved.

Outcall is *much* safer. It's easy for LEO to stake out a hotel incall location (like shooting fish in a barrel, I'd think). Following providers to remote outcall appointments would be a lot more difficult.

I hear what you're saying. But there's no way I'd ever have a provider at my house, which effectively puts me back at a hotel anyway. I've seen providers about 5-6 times at their apartment or house and that worked out okay. But then you run the risk of nosy neighbors who may be taking pictures of you or your car before calling LE. Assessing all the scenarios gets exhausting after a while.

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

Any intel on this one? I did a search and found nothing. I might be searching the wrong way because this is the 2nd time I have searched for info on a provider only to get "no matches found".

See my post #4765 in this thread. I have seen her an additional time since that post & it was a good visit too. Will repeat.

[Dweezil]

Just seems a little ridiculous to suggest that cops not only come and harass you over what they "know" you were doing, but let you know they are watching without taking any action toward the hobbyist or provider whatsoever. That's the "bullshit" part of this.

Key phrase to remember in situations like this: "Officer, am I free to go?

We forget that early on in these conversations, anything we say and any time we spend with the police are out of courtesy (or more usually fear). When you ask that question, they have two options. First. You're free to go. Second. They arrest you (at which point they damned well better have the evidence to support the arrest).

Usually the response is the first. If ever it's the second, it was always going to be the second and asking the question didn't make it happen. It just changed the timing.

I've been stopped a couple times and the opening is usually an amiable "where are you going?" or "what are you doing around here? I politely respond with something like "Driving through. Am I free to go". Surprisingly, that's the end of the conversation most of the time. When they have persisted with more questions, I respond with a polite "I'm sorry, am I free to go? It's nerve wracking sometimes listening to all the threats but when the answer to every question is "Am I free to go?" eventually, you'll be out of there.

Have a great day.

Dz.

[HuntLadys29]

Whether she feels comfortable there and the owner won't rat her out should matter none. If LE are pulling you guys over, they are obviously watching her, so they are already aware of what is going on. Moving to a complete different side of town maybe? But just be cautious, as if they are already on to her based on the comings and goings, they may tend to follow her should she move. The thing about her getting kicked out of numerous hotels bothers me too. Maybe the fine gents here could come up with a deposit to help her get her own place, and I am sure not only she would feel more comfortable, but so would the ones going to see her. Also as far as a wife not being trusted I completely agree. BA for instance a wife on council found out her husband was seeing a girl from Eros. I am sure you can figure out the rest now. Be Safe!

Although helping her get her own place might seem like a noble thing to do, the place has to go in her name and she has to either have the credit or the means to support that place or it falls back on the person that has their name on the lease contract or whatever. Unfortunately most guys are not willing to take that chance. Getting an apartment requires a credit rating or proof you can pay the rent, and if she has problems getting a hotel room because everybody knows about her line of work then that means the hotel room has to be in a mongers name, if she takes a fall for prostitution then that opens the person who has the room in their name to a charge of promoting prostitution. Or an unwelcome phone call from our uncle asking a whole lot of awkward questions.

And plus it seems like every time a monger jumps in and does something for most of the girls in need it ends up biting the monger squarely on the ass. As nice a jester as that might seem its something I personally would distance myself from.

[Cwa2001]

Any intel on this one? I did a search and found nothing. I might be searching the wrong way because this is the 2nd time I have searched for info on a provider only to get "no matches found".

Brandy Lovelace AKA Brandy E. She has been around a while and there are quite a few reviews about her including my review of her. She is super nice and always gets the job done. She is a smaller bbw very cute and accommodating.

[Todd Cincy]

I've said this many, many times: hotel incalls are a bad idea. I understand that these are lower cost and higher convenience, but they are far riskier for everyone involved.

Outcall is *much* safer. It's easy for LEO to stake out a hotel incall location (like shooting fish in a barrel, I'd think). Following providers to remote outcall appointments would be a lot more difficult.

When I had my visit with Remmy a sheriff was behind me when I got off the exit I went to the store / gas station that is next to her hotel I went to the bathroom then I went to her hotel. She did tell me she had been kicked out of numerous hotels for prostitution which didn't make me feel to comfortable when I left. But honestly they can't make you divulge any information if they didn't see any money exchange hands or the deed being done, that was to scare you away and I'm sure it worked, I would never go back if they questioned me like that. She has been there a while I suggested moving or getting her own place but she says she is comfortable there and the owner won't rat her out, she says his wife can't be trusted. In my personal experience the wife has all the power if she can't be trusted neither can he. Not sure if I will visit her at that location again that kind of stuff just makes a man nervous. Be safe I'm out.

[Gunman2013]

Any intel on this one? I did a search and found nothing. I might be searching the wrong way because this is the 2nd time I have searched for info on a provider only to get "no matches found".

[WordSmithFour]

I didn't observe the stopping by the two und cov offc but I do know from other credible sources that Cov and or Kenton Co is hot, hot, hot on anything to do with prost and/or H. They are budgeted for this and are doing stops like the ones described actively.

WSF, to call this activity into question if you don't really know it to be false may be doing other mongers here harm if they choose to disregard the info / warning. The truth is that the LEO presense in NKy 'IS' happening just as described, or similar. Yes, Gustapo-like. Take it or leave it but please don't dissuade anyone here from being concerned over this warning.

Just seems a little ridiculous to suggest that cops not only come and harass you over what they "know" you were doing, but let you know they are watching without taking any action toward the hobbyist or provider whatsoever. That's the "bullshit" part of this.

I've been doing this long enough and have only been stopped twice while on dream visit-- and both times, LEO was looking for drugs, not monger activity. And they certainly weren't going to let me off with any "scare tactics" if they had any evidence against me or anyone else.

[Varoom]

So, let me get this straight. LEO is spending valuable resources day and night to gather surveillance video and intel to take down Remmy (or any other provider--I've heard this story before) AND not making any arrest while harassing guys in public with all the valuable "intelligence" they've gathered on these hardened criminals?

And you all believe this bullshit?

I didn't observe the stopping by the two und cov offc but I do know from other credible sources that Cov and or Kenton Co is hot, hot, hot on anything to do with prost and/or H. They are budgeted for this and are doing stops like the ones described actively.

WSF, to call this activity into question if you don't really know it to be false may be doing other mongers here harm if they choose to disregard the info / warning. The truth is that the LEO presense in NKy 'IS' happening just as described, or similar. Yes, Gustapo-like. Take it or leave it but please don't dissuade anyone here from being concerned over this warning.