Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Admin2]

if sasha and cc wanted to quit they could go to A2

For dragging me into an argument, but I was kind of side tracked by the idea of Sasha and CC coming to live with me. (Cue dream sequence).

Side note regarding the rare edit in The Octagon; the way to tell if a person simply mentioned the forbidden subject as opposed to advocating the forbidden subject is if they have not been banned. I know Puntang is sort of a lightning rod here, but he is a regular and I didn't want anybody having the impression he did something super douchey and sick.

A2

[Utr In Ohio]

1). Total be about the girl and pictures in mailbox.

3). CC lost some friends and family who found her out. True.

3). You seem to think smoking weed is a big deal! Its not and this country is excepting it more each day.

Not a felony... Its a pay out ticket in over 40 states!

4). If Tmax gave you Rebeccas number...Which I doubt since he lives with her.

Than that is his and his fiancé prerogative. But wasn't mine to give out.

Why oh why do you envy me so much?

You know no facts about me but you bash me constantly with your lues and allegations.

You and you bff think I am way more powerful than I am...if sasha and cc wanted to quit they could go to A2 and have me forever banned. He would help them in a heartbeat. Maybe I'm just smart enough to know the girls are my business and free will enablesthem to work however they wish!

Gentlemen, if you know Sasha or Cc please make this man stop lying on us.

Buddah.

[PillowTalk69]

I and my brother have always obeyed for the most part A2 and Jackson's policies but we have serious issues with a man who supplies ladies and some gents with his extra curricular activity That is a felony if he is caught and your numbers happen to be in his phone.

It also makes no sense that CC allegedly was found out or discovered to be one of his women and dropped off for a short while and is now back on again with the SAME moniker and pictures. If a certain current monger is engaged to be married to Rebecca why did he give me her phone number if he is marrying her? Back in the day B put a lady who worked for hims pics, reviews, and appointments in an envelope and left it in her family mailbox For those ladies who work for him now if you have kids or he knows where you live and you fuck over him what does he know about you and what does that say to you. He cut off from the pussy and threatened a fellow mongerer for writing a graphic review of Sasha when told not to and also cut off his other supply and even tracked him down to where he lived. Is this the kind of guy you want to do business with fellows. The biggest fucking laugh so far on here is Sasha's statement that HE WORKS FOR THEM How fucking stupid do you think we guys are. In over two decades have any of you ever heard of a guy who owns an agency big or small where the girls control the agency and tell the owner what to do. FUCKING REALLY?? Buddah was running girls through the mill before you were fucking born, and using whatever means necessary to control them he had to. If any of the ladies have kids he has your soul and if he knows where you live and can track you he will control you to do his will HE HAS NEVER WORKED FOR ANY WOMAN and he has had women ten times better looking working for him in the past.

My brother and I will continue to obey A2's rules but both he and I honestly believed the only place to complain about sex practices that were unsafe was on the thread that had been made for that. This place is for the exchange of ideas and if you are going to use him be damned sure he does not have your info. He was run out of Ohio before and Leopards don't change their spots. He sure as hell hasn't changed his. If women worked for themselves they could just contact men and could vette them and do o own background checks going through other well known providers. Why pay him a piece of the action for someithing you could do when you do the biggest part of the work. Guys watch your backs and remember for every agency girl there are probably fifty who you can contact without giving anymore info than you are comfortable doing and who you don't have to worry about generally coming after you if you piss them off. A2 again we apologize for our earlier reference As true as it was it broke your rules and don't want to go there. Have a good week all and enjoy Spring which is coming. PT and BM.

[Cintixtreme]

First, I think A2 has asked repeatedly that, if you see a post in violation, you flag it and contact him, not make a post about it.

Second, if you are referring to Buddah's post about PM, he didn't say anything about unsafe sex practices, he said it that begging for a particular activity, in this case BBFS, was annoying. Not a word about it being unsafe or unwise.

We all know the risks, and we all know that a good number of providers have likely, at least once, let it slide with one or more particular clients in the heat of the moment (ladies, you do not have to reply stating that you, specifically, have not), and that a good number of clients, if offered in the heat of the moment, have probably gone ahead with it (same lack of need to emphatic denials from the guys). Everyone is human, and we are all big boys and girls. It only becomes a true problem if someone pushes or coerces someone to do something which they do not want to do. Then its a BIG fucking problem.

Third, whining about someone smoking weed is silly anymore. You want to tell me that someone is sliding a needle into someone, keeping them high on pills to control them, etc., then we have a conversation. But saying that someone smoked pot with a provider? If that concerns you, you might as well not call any of the ladies on this, or any, board. Or are be and his girls the only ones held to that standard?

Guys, you don't like him, and he doesn't like you. Why don't you all just ignore each other and quit making general snipes.

And while we're at it, can we all generally assume that when a girl completely, 100% vanishes from all the boards and advertising venues, that she has either retired, relocated, gotten arrested, gotten into a relationship, found better job or life opportunities, or gone UTR, and, if she really wanted to keep you as a client and income source, she would have contacted you to be part of her UTR set of clients.

[BigMack]

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editor's note: this report was edited to remove references to **** persons.

i am aware that the vast majority of references to **** girls are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup an **** girls, the potential dangers of being caught with **** girls, etc. however, past discussions in the forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted, and without starting flame wars.

please do not post references to **** persons in the forum. thanks!

this subject was one of the things specifically enumerated as not being ok with the relaxation of the rules in the octagon.

as far as safe sex complaints, that's ok here, shit like that is why this thread exists. two guys can argue about that until either the cows come home or i get tired of reading it.

a2

[TheDaytimer]

Anyone have any digits on her? The one who used to work for Buddah not long ago then suddenly disappeared off the grid. Any 411 would be appreciated if anyone has working number / s on her. Tried her old one and it was disconnected. Thanks and a PM would be appreciated. I am sure Buuuddddy would be forthcoming since he says he doesn't care who his women see past or present or so he says. Have a good day all.

I doubt Buuuddddy would give you the info since it's probably not his to give out. If a lady leaves and goes UTR its for a reason and Buudddy would be violating her wishes if he gave it to you. YUP. He holds no ill will if they leave him so he is not about to seek "revenge" by exposing their whereabouts.

[Utr In Ohio]

Anyone have any digits on her? The one who used to work for Buddah not long ago then suddenly disappeared off the grid. Any 411 would be appreciated if anyone has working number / s on her. Tried her old one and it was disconnected. Thanks and a PM would be appreciated. I am sure Buuuddddy would be forthcoming since he says he doesn't care who his women see past or present or so he says. Have a good day all.

Damn bro. She left the fucking hobby all together! She is Engaged to marry a fellow (retired) hobbyist.

If you want her number you'll have to talk to him. TMaxx was his board name.

Now. Since we never met and Will Never do business together... Take my name out of your vocabulary! I'm tired of you insinuating that I somehow keep girls off this board once they leave my crew. You wrong but you pathetic begging to find a girl to go Bb with is definitely annoying more folks here than just me.

Never use my name in Your post again!

Buddah#Done with PTs bs.

[PillowTalk69]

Anyone have any digits on her? The one who used to work for Buddah not long ago then suddenly disappeared off the grid. Any 411 would be appreciated if anyone has working number / s on her. Tried her old one and it was disconnected. Thanks and a PM would be appreciated. I am sure Buuuddddy would be forthcoming since he says he doesn't care who his women see past or present or so he says. Have a good day all.

[Admin2]

First, thanks to all the guys that sent PM's I appreciate the show of support.

The mongering scene down here has distinct and separate areas, Daytime privado (bordellos) and indy chicks, cafes and coffee shops, and clubs (think strip clubs full of hookers). Forever I've been doing the daytime chicks, the price is better, I go to their incall (no chance of drama at the house) and they are all well reviewed on the local forums, I was going from one winner to the next. The cafe and coffee shop girls work both day and night and they cost a little more, no reviews so it's always a chance. The night time club girls (when dealing with Americans) are really high priced and have no reviews at all so they have no need to fuck like animals.

I recently started doing a little more of the night time stuff and have been paying more money for crappier service. My irritation was affecting my nutting. I've gone back to the days and am blowing them right and left.

Whew.

[Beckham5]

Stay clear of this provider, she will have going from one location to another and texting back and forth. Finally, when I met, she did not dress as we had previously. After traveling 80 miles one way to Orlando, I told her I changed my mind and walked out of her hotel room. This venture was not well researched by me, so I bear some fault. But clearly this person does not know how to manage her business as a provider. http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEs...cut-77/9425918 Fortunately, I did not lose money. Only time and gas expense. I should have known early enough that something was amiss, when I kept getting delays and missed voice mail messages.

[TheDaytimer]

It's down a little right now, 10.5. It was up to 12 ish a little while ago.

DAMN. It was 8.1 when I was there. You mean there was a time where I coulda got 50% more pussy for the dollar?

[Loki Pk]

I just had a really cute, highly skilled provider leave without being able to get me to the magic moment. Seems like I'm running about 25% failure to splooge rate these days. I know this sounds weird but I think I might need to take a break, I'm kinda bored banging 2-4 different hot chicks a week. Yeah, I know how that sounds and feel free to tell me to STFU but it's what's going on and I'm wondering if anybody else has ever had this happen?

And all you ladies fixing to chime in that you could fix it, it's not the chicks. This woman was hot, skilled, and dedicated to her work. This issue is without question and BKAC thing. (Tech speak for Between Keyboard And Chair, it's what we tech guys say when the operator is the problem).

I have had this same problem lately. Especially this past 10 days, as I have been doing 2+ sessions almost 7 out of 10 days. I was working the shit out of my hall pass and had a total 'no filter' kind of week. But towards the end I was having trouble rocking a nut for some VERY skilled, beautiful ladies. Several went above and beyond and I rocked it monster nut, but trust me when I say they earned every drop.

I think it is just overload and time to slow down a bit. Make the whole experience 'mean' something again. Too much of a great thing is not always a good thing. Much like a drug addict building tolerance, so to... Do we. The difference is we can push past the numbness with the 'proper' stimulation. I had a smoking little hottie on Wednesday that I was playing around the world with, but I just had that 'I could keep this up forever' feeling- not going to cum. Yeah right! Until I was eating her ass and pussy from behind, propped up on the pillow. I had a faceful and needed a breath and sat back on my knees, stroking my cock and she reached back and rubbed her fingers in her pussy. Got them all wet and slippery and uncoached slipped them knuckle deep into her own ass! My fucking eyes popped out of my head and 5 or 6 strokes later ...I was at the tootsie roll center of my tootsie pop good Times baby!!

Peace.

PK.

[Admin2]

Is that 50 bucks at the official exchange rate or at the Blue Dollar rate?

It's down a little right now, 10.5. It was up to 12 ish a little while ago.

[TheDaytimer]

Is that 50 bucks at the official exchange rate or at the Blue Dollar rate?

I'm getting bit by the Principle of Diminishing Marginal Utility. I read an article about male porn stars once and what they had to do to "get up" for shoots. (Before Viagra) and almost all of them said words to the effect of "If people knew what was going on inside my head while I was working I'd be in jail" referring to the fantasies they had to have to get the equipment working. I seriously have too much pussy here, look at this list http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts-acompanantes.htm there are some fakes there but most of them are real and available for less than 50 bucks.

Though on one hand I'm still getting it done 75% of the time on the other that number could shrink. Maybe I'll take a little break. I just hate to put a dent in the economy here during a financial crisis. It feels, unpatriotic.

Overall though, I am aware, that too much pussy is a great problem to have.

A2.

[Admin2]

I'm getting bit by the Principle of Diminishing Marginal Utility. I read an article about male porn stars once and what they had to do to "get up" for shoots. (Before Viagra) and almost all of them said words to the effect of "If people knew what was going on inside my head while I was working I'd be in jail" referring to the fantasies they had to have to get the equipment working. I seriously have too much pussy here, look at this list http://www.bairesgirls.net/escorts-acompanantes.htm there are some fakes there but most of them are real and available for less than 50 bucks.

Though on one hand I'm still getting it done 75% of the time on the other that number could shrink. Maybe I'll take a little break. I just hate to put a dent in the economy here during a financial crisis. It feels, unpatriotic.

Overall though, I am aware, that too much pussy is a great problem to have.

A2.