Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Admin2]

So this is me, the guy, not the godlike presence on the forum with a question. I was working today and I saw this;.

I'm 45, 260, 5'6" 55 hh. 90 h.

I don't judge, I never do, whatever two consenting adults want to do is not only fine by me, but also none of my fucking business. It does seem to me that if one was into short, really, really heavy middle aged women, that one might just need to stop in at some honky tonk near any big trailer park and one could find pert near as many as one might want. Shit seems like you could do it by going to Wally World if no trailer parks were handy.

Believe me I'm behind the idea of how easy P4 P sex is, no drama, my terms, ect. One of my minimums though is if I'm going to give some chick some money, she needs to be hotter than I can normally pull by just buying her a drink. Or in this case walking up and asking her if she feels like fucking.

Somebody got to school me on this because I just don't get it.

A2.

[MollyDaniels]

I know we have had this discussion before, and I'm starting a project called the Wall of Shame on my website. It's a list of providers who don't respond to reference requests. Ladies can post their experiences anonymously. Hopefully it will help us all with the issue of reliable references. I have a couple entries so far; I just need a few more before I update the table.

Wall of Shame.

www.mollydaniels.com/wall-of-shame.phtml

Any feedback or help is appreciated.

[WarlockKy]

There is a provider here on the boards that I knew outside of the industry. I've known her before she started providing, so it was a real shock to be when j saw her photo pop up in an ad.

Needless to say she doesn't know I know.

With providers, dancers, and ladies working a hotel or casino bar.

My advice is to not even mention that you know about her other side, that way there's little or no chance that she could out you.

And if you suddenly see her post that she going to lose her house, can't feed the kids etc you know where to direct some help for a "friend of a friend".

[TheDaytimer]

That is good info to learn, and here I thought this info was stored forever. Whew, and I was concerned about a few unscrupulous texts that were sent and rec'd in the odd event of a meltdown. [relief]. Thanks for enlightening me here.

The NSA keeps it forever

[Varoom]

I beg to differ with you but text messages are NOT there forever, [editdelete] Even law enforcement could not retrieve them after 45 days.

That is good info to learn, and here I thought this info was stored forever. Whew, and I was concerned about a few unscrupulous texts that were sent and rec'd in the odd event of a meltdown. [relief]. Thanks for enlightening me here.

[JLZ61]

Although my leash is not particularly tight, I've opted to avoid the two phone strategy and rely on GV. I have an iPhone and use the GV app. I have a ton of apps so the GV app icon kind of disappears in the mess. Texting works great and there's no indication of any incoming texts to alert anybody. You can use GV to select which phone you want it to use to connect. I just keep the Do Not Disturb function activated so there are no interruptions. I keep my History mostly purged just in case. The only minus for me it doesn't allow picture attachments. And I dunno how it would work for non-iPhones. So far, so good, though. Knock on wood!

Best part? It's free!!

Unless you're in some line of work where you might need a burner phone for legitimate purposes -- and these are few and far between -- there's not an explanation.

But here's the thing: If your leash doesn't have enough slack in it that you can reasonably expect to conceal and charge a burner phone, then you probably should avoid the hobby. That is, if you don't have your own car, your own office, etc., it's probably not going to work. You could use your regular phone, but that's likely worse given the probability that some provider will text or call you out of the blue to drum up business.

I guess Google Voice may be an option. I don't know. I'd be happy to learn and may give it a try.

[NKY747]

How do you explain to the misses the phone call that you rec'd while sitting on the couch? Wow.

Burn phones aren't to be explained; they are a secret device not to be used for any other purpose other than eliminating subversive traffic (embarrassing calls while the Mrs is sitting next to you) from your main phone. If you don't have enough privacy to keep the burn phone secret then I wouldn't have one. Some guys hide them in the golf bag, others in the trunk or briefcase. As to chging the device, chg it at the office or get a car chg'er and use it when you are out mongering. Burn phones are usually turned off until the need arrises. One more thing, for those that use their regular phone for texting with a provider, those texts are there forever and could be recovered by your SO or her divorce counsel. I would never suggest sending a text msg that you wouldn't ever want the Mrs to see, if worse comes to worse; aka major meltdown.

Never talk bidness on the phone and all convos should be wiped clean, as an open viewable text just invites trouble. Scheduling, a 'how are you' is about all I need, 1 on 1 is where the details should only be.

[LakelVr]

How do you explain to the misses the phone call that you rec'd while sitting on the couch? Wow.

Burn phones aren't to be explained; they are a secret device not to be used for any other purpose other than eliminating subversive traffic (embarrassing calls while the Mrs is sitting next to you) from your main phone. If you don't have enough privacy to keep the burn phone secret then I wouldn't have one. Some guys hide them in the golf bag, others in the trunk or briefcase. As to chging the device, chg it at the office or get a car chg'er and use it when you are out mongering. Burn phones are usually turned off until the need arrises. One more thing, for those that use their regular phone for texting with a provider, those texts are there forever and could be recovered by your SO or her divorce counsel. I would never suggest sending a text msg that you wouldn't ever want the Mrs to see, if worse comes to worse; aka major meltdown.

I beg to differ with you but text messages are NOT there forever, I wish they were because I certainly could have used them in a civil court case that I had. Even law enforcement could not retrieve them after 45 days had elapsed and that was with Verizon and Sprint. My attorney attempted to subpoena them, law enforcement tried to retrieve them but because of the volume of text messages sent now they are only stored on the servers from 30-45 days and then totally deleted. The only way they are kept is if LE had a "tap" on that line with a court issued order.

[PillowTalk69]

I wasn't asking if I should tell her. I already decided not to. I was just mentioning it as part of the conversation.

I am not going to ruin my friendship with her just for some pussy, specially not since there are other options on the board. It's not always about getting laud.

Just my two cents on the situation and it is mostly about the psy my friend or this place would be very barren of users on both sides. If you can have a friend in the process you are way ahead of the game. I do agree it isn't about getting laud / laid. I would love to be lauded in a woman's bedroom over and over the meanings of both words Wooo HOOO.

[D Nut]

Meet her at a nice place for lunch; with a nice tip thrown in. BE HONEST with her and if she is HOT by all means. If she is open to it, put it out in front of her. She is in this for money and since you know anyway why not fuck her if she is open to it. She gets what she wants, you get what you want and she might even work out an arrangement with you to allow you some extras as appreciation. Would work for me but then I love pussy a lot so why not be honest if you get what you are after and so does she. It is a win win.

I wasn't asking if I should tell her. I already decided not to. I was just mentioning it as part of the conversation.

I am not going to ruin my friendship with her just for some pussy, specially not since there are other options on the board. It's not always about getting laud.

[Ilapp]

She looks cute but I am not that stupid! I will stay as far away from her as I can! Don't even want to say who she is advertising on here.

This would be one of my biggest fears, meeting someone I know.

The count is up to three and holding. Two of them are a couple of the best there ever has been around here, and they had more friends I didn't see, and there are other "connections" too. Just remember they may fear the same thing, but it doesn't mean you can't keep each others secret and fill each others needs. Hell last graduation I attended I was scanning the class to see who the next most likely to provide might be. Sick huh?

[PillowTalk69]

There is a provider here on the boards that I knew outside of the industry. I've known her before she started providing, so it was a real shock to be when j saw her photo pop up in an ad.

Needless to say she doesn't know I know.

Meet her at a nice place for lunch; with a nice tip thrown in. BE HONEST with her and if she is HOT by all means. If she is open to it, put it out in front of her. She is in this for money and since you know anyway why not fuck her if she is open to it. She gets what she wants, you get what you want and she might even work out an arrangement with you to allow you some extras as appreciation. Would work for me but then I love pussy a lot so why not be honest if you get what you are after and so does she. It is a win win.

[Cheech1]

There is a provider here on the boards that I knew outside of the industry. I've known her before she started providing, so it was a real shock to be when j saw her photo pop up in an ad.

Needless to say she doesn't know I know.

You should don a mask and go do her. Tell her its a little kink you have.

Cheech.

[Varoom]

How can I explain to the missus why I have a burner phone. I can keep it in the car turned off, but would need to charge it once in a while.

Thanks.

How do you explain to the misses the phone call that you rec'd while sitting on the couch? Wow.

Burn phones aren't to be explained; they are a secret device not to be used for any other purpose other than eliminating subversive traffic (embarrassing calls while the Mrs is sitting next to you) from your main phone. If you don't have enough privacy to keep the burn phone secret then I wouldn't have one. Some guys hide them in the golf bag, others in the trunk or briefcase. As to chging the device, chg it at the office or get a car chg'er and use it when you are out mongering. Burn phones are usually turned off until the need arrises. One more thing, for those that use their regular phone for texting with a provider, those texts are there forever and could be recovered by your SO or her divorce counsel. I would never suggest sending a text msg that you wouldn't ever want the Mrs to see, if worse comes to worse; aka major meltdown.

[D Nut]

I ever had back in the day. She told me what she needed at home and wasn't getting it and I gave it to her in spades and vice versa. The woman could stone fuck and loved it hard and often and when the well dried up she came back for more off the clock With three kids she could risk discovery so she just fucked and sucked between clients and then she gave it up as she said it was getting too risky which I understood Doesn't work for everyone but did for me.

There is a provider here on the boards that I knew outside of the industry. I've known her before she started providing, so it was a real shock to be when j saw her photo pop up in an ad.

Needless to say she doesn't know I know.