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  1. #11668

    Ymmv

    I think we can all agree that providers have different motivators that compel them to have sex with clients. From reading recent posts, (or just using common sense) the comprising motivators are: 1. Donation 2. Comfortability with client 3. Attraction to client 4. Cleanliness of client. Obviously, these "standard" comprising motivators have sub-categories. Being respectful to a provider will make her more comfortable with you and thus will be a sub-catoregory of Comfortability. Resembling an age or demographic that the provider is more content with, falls under Comfortability. Dressing nice, tidy and in business attire falls under Attraction. You guys get the picture. Now, in Jag's defense some providers may carry more weight (or all weight) with the Donation. The other factors may be futile or non-existent. I'm sure many of the girls you see walking the trail are ONLY / (maybe mostly) motivated by donation. That's not to say that some providers in the body-rub business are only motivated by Donations. Since these girls are generally middle-class women with values (as opposed to SW's) they tend to carry more weight on the other three categories: Comfortability, Attraction and Cleanliness. In Viamx's defense, he may have dealt with certain providers who carried little to no weight in reference to the Donation. Maybe being comfortable to the client was the dominating factor in determining whether or not she would sleep with a client. Different providers have different motivators. And few providers don't care to sleep with their clients at all.

    On a different note, I do believe that only the Donation has the ability to DRASTICALLY change the providers other motivators. That's common sense. The donation is the only thing on this list that doesn't have a cap, so to speak. You can only be so clean, so attracted, and so comfortable to someone but you can always raise the price of your donation. So in a sense, the donation has the ability to lower a providers standards when it comes to the other categories. The amount to do that is contingent upon the provider. This is just my .02.

  2. #11667

    You Are Both Correct, Gentlemen......

    Quote Originally Posted by Viamx  [View Original Post]
    Have to TOTALLY disagree with that my man. Sometimes I have got much more than I expected and $$ have never been mentioned. It's all about how you interact with the girl, how respectful you are with her and how comfortable she is with you. That's how YMMV.

    V.
    Viamx and AO are both correct. We have ALL had providers that fucked us in our first visit or within a few visits, regardless of the total Jag coin. My PSA about being a complete gentlemen, clean, well manicured, ALWAYS respectful, courteous and ALWAYS ASKING before you touch a gal is a good code to hobby by. Unless, of course, she is so turned on by your Clint Eastwood, Kirk Douglas, Tom Cruise, Tom Selleck good looks that she just jumps up on the table and fucks you senseless on your first visit.

    I have been regularly depositing my "egg seeking" semen into the fertile wombs (yes, yes, covered of course) of 5 or 6 UTR / LMT / Rub Gal providers over the past two months or so. Like Viamx said, you can FS a gal for relatively small coin. I pay 100-150 dollars per session with the gals I just mentioned. They love The Jag and The Jag loves them. But, sometimes like AO says you have to increase the coin to get what you want. Some gals will fuck you alright (even though they say in their BS ads that they are not FS): But it's going to cost you. And they will ONLY do it if they are very ATTRACTED to you.

    JaguarXF.

  3. #11666
    Senior Member


    Posts: 265
    Quote Originally Posted by AncienTone  [View Original Post]
    YMMV is a function of DONATION $, always has been and always will be.
    Have to TOTALLY disagree with that my man. Sometimes I have got much more than I expected and $$ have never been mentioned. It's all about how you interact with the girl, how respectful you are with her and how comfortable she is with you. That's how YMMV.

    V.

  4. #11665

    Thank You Brother Barolo...And WhiskeySours, AO, OS, Montana77...

    Quote Originally Posted by Barolo  [View Original Post]
    Haters will be haters. I believe Jag, I have seen many of the same non-Asian indies. The reviews are very accurate.
    Indeed, my good brother Barolo and I have fucked many, many of the same providers over a period of at least 8 or 9 years. I have been hobbying for 11 years. He and I are in the same age demographic, if you will. We have great mutual respect and admiration for each other. The same goes for WhiskeySours. No one knows the game better than Barolo, or, WS. IMHO.

    Barolo was even getting BBBJ's from a provider I was fucking for a whole year that I thought was UTR! She was one of the providers I spoke of in my recent PSA about providers that tell you they are not fucking anyone else but YOU. Then, of course we find out later that it was all lies.

    Barolo, WS, AO, OriginalSin, DW, TexCobb, Montana77, BrevardNewbie and many, many other venerable SM's know as well as anyone else that YMMV with each provider. If guys are jealous and angry because another brother is banging a gal he couldn't even get a HE from, well then, that's just tough shit. Get over it brother and move on to the next provider.

    As I said before, even The Jag gets turned down every now and then. I just simply take my Jag coin and move on to the next cock craving, semen starved cervix (s).

    JaguarXF.

  5. #11664

    Well stated, especially because.......

    Quote Originally Posted by JaguarXF  [View Original Post]
    This PSA applies to SOME providers, but not all. This PSA is more for Rub Gals and LMT's that provide extras.

    We hobbyists all know that YMMV with each of you lovely, sexy and oh so talented ladies. You will FS some clients and not others. It's all part of the game.

    All of you know that we men are testosterone driven, lecherous creatures who think about pussy, what, 200 time a day, according to the sex experts? (Especially the married ones, LOL). ALL of you, who are experienced providers, know how to hustle us out of our hard earned money. You have your favorite clients and we have our favorite providers. For you to post here that you DO NOT provide FS, BBBJ, BBACF and / or BBCF, etc. Etc., for your ATF clients is, indeed, disingenuous, misleading and even borderlines on the paradigm of "unfair trade practices". I believe it is called: "Truth in advertising". You sexy ladies post your prurient ads, licentiously and decadently all over CL and BP. Your succulent, plump round, testicle tightening, soft and tender 100% feminine asses and breasts, are posted with your ads, begging us, even exhorting us, to fuck you (Note: all FS sessions are "non-health care related") into the next zip code, if you will (I actually believe I fucked Alexa and Emily at PAS into the next county, Keri into the microwave and Patricia into a sweet rendition of "ay Papi Jag, fuck me" All of us red-blooded men get turgid (erect) looking at your sumptuous ass pics. I (as I know other men have) have nearly "rubbed one out", if you will, on more than a few occasions while oozing pre-cum all over your edible ass pics. You gorgeous women know what turns us men on, indeed. That is the intent of your ads, correct? I believe they call that "wise marketing strategy". As a connoisseur of fine feminine asses, The Jag can tell you that he will NOT respond to an ad unless I can either see your ass, or, in Lindsey's (LMT), Jen's, (LMT) Jenna's (LMT) case, I can see enough of your ass, or, your facial bone structure to determine that you may have a nice ass, (anthropology 101) in order to make an educated guess as to whether or not I want fuck you.

    I have publically addressed this issue in the past with other well-known and beautiful providers such as Hailey and JJ. I have also discussed this matter with about 6 other UTR rub gals, via back channel PM's. I have received a few PM's from two or three guys that have been hobbying a long time, but do NOT post on the Board much. These men have told me that they have had FS with several of the providers that I have reviewed here. These men, like me, paid big Jag coin to get FS from these providers. The details these esteemed brothers gave to me about these ladies lead me to believe that they were honest and truthful. Of course, there is no way to know for sure, absent a lie detector test and a face to face meeting with the provider. However, these gentlemen seemed worthy and I have to trust them at their word. We have ALL heard providers tell us: "Oh Jag, you are the ONLY client that I have sex with, I swear babycakes", only to find out later that it is a FUCKING lie. All of us brethren have been there. Truthfully, it really sucks when you think you have an ATF provider that is ONLY banging your brains out, only to find out that she REPEATEDLY lied straight to your face and that she is, in fact, fucking one or more of our fellow brethren. But, we, as mature men, understand that this hobby is a fucking business and as far as the providers are concerned, it is ALL about the coin. This is not a hobby for the faint of heart, or, for those men who tend to become "attached", if you will, to a provider. Doing so will likely bring you emotional heartache and disappointment.

    As I have said before, publically and through back channel PM's: ALMOST every FUCKING provider has their price. It's as simple as that. True, some, but very few providers have never provided FS. There may be a few gals that DID provide FS but, are not doing so any longer. I would submit that a lot of men, including myself, unequivocally respect that. Regrettably, however, some providers post here saying that they do not provide FS, BBBJ and DATY, etc., when they know, IN FACT, that they are fucking AND / OR sucking one or two of their ATF clients for a MINIMUM of 200-400 dollars per orgasm / ejaculation.

    So, please ladies, continue draining our ball sacs and bank accounts, but, do not post here stating that you are not FS when we all know that most (again, not all) of you do. Many of you gladly provide FS IF you are VERY attracted to your client AND the Jag coin is right. Personally, I love all of you beautiful and sensual ladies. The Jag has always been a complete and consummate gentleman to each and EVERY provider that I have ever had the pleasure to have seen. I have paid them very well, indeed, and I will continue to do so until I leave the hobby.

    Accordingly, as long as I (and my esteemed hobbying brothers) have the requisite coin and as long as you are willing and able, we hobbyists will continue to go balls deep into your soft, tender, wet AND tight Vaginal flesh (covered as always).

    Hugs, kisses, and loads of Jag jizz deep, deeper and finally balls deep into your cock craving, spermatozoa swallowing cervix (s).

    Love always,

    JaguarXF.

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    I recently saw a body rub / massage provider who gave me exactly what I expected for my $. Conversation got around to USA guide and she said "oh that Jag is a real character and I love reading what he has to say on USA but he seemed to indicate that I fucked him and that is not true". WOAH..I just let it pass and would have let it pass on this board if not for Jag's post here specifically addressing this topic. I know from my past experiences that the almighty dollar will get most if not all massage girls naked (if they are not already during the massage) and fucking you and so therefore I let her lie hang out there and evaporate quickly. I have the cash but not the desire to purchase intercourse from these girls but those of us who have both the cash and desire will easily achieve the feat MOST of the time. YMMV is a function of DONATION $, always has been and always will be. VERY few exceptions to that rule. Happy hunting, safe hunting.

  6. #11663

    It's like deja vu all over again!

    When you read Jessica Daniels website, they could be twins! Or, they are working for the same management who wrote the text for both ads. (Nawww. Couldn't be...).

    http://www.jessicadaniels2013.webstarts.com/

    DAMN AUTO CORRECT!

  7. #11662

    You misunderstood me

    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    I don't care if you don't like somebodies reviews. I don't like the Lifestyle Channel (who gives a shit about the Golden Girls) so I programmed my TV to skip it when I lived in the states. I didn't call the cable company to complain every time I surfed passed it, I removed it and solved the problem.

    If you think you need a bullshit button for a particular member, just put them on your ignore list. I know you guys don't because you enjoy starting the fights. If you won't ignore them, then don't complain to me when you get an infraction for "calling them out" the single most USLESS idea ever.

    Ignore them and read the guys you like.

    I'm not trying to yell at you guys, I'm trying to tell you how to enjoy the forum more. I've been a member here for 12 years. On my personal account I have 30+ guys on my ignore list, and it grows every month. Life is too short to argue about anything on a pussy board. Use the time to find more pussy.

    A2
    I simply meant I would like a Bull Shit button. I was not commenting on a post or a poster. I have much better things to do with my time and energy than waste either getting into a pissing match with some clown on the internet. If you don't want one, cool. Not a big deal for me. I am sorry if I managed to upset you.

    No worries brother, I don't take any of this shit personally.

    A2

  8. #11661

    Gave me a headache..

    Maybe because everything I do "is hormonal"WTF... Really.

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  10. #11659

    Former Assa

    Stopped into what was once known as Assa off of Kirkman & International for the first time in a few years. It was always a reliable spot for me in the past and things don't appear to have changed. Opted for HH with a TS. The lady mentioned something about it being almost the same price as an hour because because the TS was an extra charge with a HH but it wasn't with an hour? Dunno, I didn't have an hour so I stuck with my original plan. Therapist said her name was Nancy. Slender and tall (for an Asian woman). I'm going to guess 40 ish. Washcloth stayed in place during the TS. Back in the room I asked for med / hard massage which was well delivered. On the flip, there was no drape and no negotiation. I roamed a little up and under the bra. Never directed to stop. Finished enthusiastically. Cleaned up, then a little more light massage. Tipped .4 which seemed to be appreciated. Saw a recent post from Viamx where he said they didn't use the once-common side door exit for him. Same thing with me. Must be a new policy. I didn't mind. The shopping center offers plenty of parking and pretty good anonymity. Will go back when that need arises.

  11. #11658
    Quote Originally Posted by SinkoM  [View Original Post]
    Welcome to the boards, McKenzie. Had a chance to see you and I was very happy I did. Go see her, people. I never had FS or claimed to have it with her, but even without that, she is well worth it.
    Thank you! I am so happy you enjoyed your time with me! Xoxox.

  12. #11657
    Quote Originally Posted by GirlsLuvMe  [View Original Post]
    Fellas please do not hate on JAG.

    I believe all of his reports. By far the most entertaining poster on this forum.

    Please keep the info coming.

    YMMV... If you do not want the mileage to vary as much bring more money with you!

    All these hookers have a price. Just a matter of finding the right number.

    Personally, I'm not spending $300 at a massage parlor. WAAAY better options for that amount!

    Jet Blue Non-stop Flight to the. Are. Is 350!

    Plenty of really hot latina GFE's in Miami well under 300.

    Yet to see any provider in Orlando that is of physical quality worth more than $150.

    PM if you want leads on better experiences for less in Miami.

    Or if anyone wants to go to DR for the weekend!
    Haters will be haters. I believe Jag, I have seen many of the same non-Asian indies. The reviews are very accurate.

  13. #11656
    Quote Originally Posted by Admin2  [View Original Post]
    I don't care if you don't like somebodies reviews. I don't like the Lifestyle Channel (who gives a shit about the Golden Girls) so I programmed my TV to skip it when I lived in the states. I didn't call the cable company to complain every time I surfed passed it, I removed it and solved the problem.

    If you think you need a bullshit button for a particular member, just put them on your ignore list. I know you guys don't because you enjoy starting the fights. If you won't ignore them, then don't complain to me when you get an infraction for "calling them out" the single most USLESS idea ever.

    Ignore them and read the guys you like.

    I'm not trying to yell at you guys, I'm trying to tell you how to enjoy the forum more. I've been a member here for 12 years. On my personal account I have 30+ guys on my ignore list, and it grows every month. Life is too short to argue about anything on a pussy board. Use the time to find more pussy.

    A2
    I didn't miss your point, it was well taken. I was being a smartass, sorry!

  14. #11655
    Quote Originally Posted by Vino7373  [View Original Post]
    I can certainly attest to the fact that my life on this board is much better and easier. I have put A2's philosophy about the ignore feature into use and it works. You notice I don't get into pissing matches on here anymore like I used to. I don't argue, I ignore!
    Vino-I miss some of those pissing matches! LOL.

  15. #11654
    Quote Originally Posted by JaguarXF  [View Original Post]
    And I hear you in your post, my excellent gent. Honestly, I am not trying for Board "supremacy". I am just sharing my Intel for all of you to enjoy and to utilize to your aggregate benefit. I just happen to enjoy writing detailed reviews.

    I have read some of your posts, GBJ, and they are awesome, indeed, my brother. You are quite the "eloquent one", if you will. You know how The Jag, and others (though not all) on here love detailed reviews.

    If I ever start seeing Escorts, I will be carefully reviewing your reviews, along with several other SM's, so I will know where to go for the best escort "dreams".

    JaguarXF.
    Thank you. You are a worthy successor young grasshopper. .

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