"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[HollywoodGuy]

My baby at work... Yeah she dances. And quite well. 5' 5' and 102.

[FredMoore]

ATF is on SA and SDFM looking for more daddies. She is up front needing more money for total support. I know a lot of you don't care about your SB fucking other guys but I don't like it. I'm starting to phase her out because she is obviously becoming an UTR and career SB. So:

SB #2.

Is on tonight for a booty call. She is a delicious fuck at $.25 but there is no emotional benefit. Total time 20 minutes.

ATF #4.

Is on for tomorrow at $325. She is emotionally satisfying but is still a 1+ hour Booty Call since I don't have time to spend with her. If I could get time off from the warden for good behavior she would spend all night and I would get my moneys worth.

So I'm thinking moving her out when she finds a new Daddy. She is OK with multiple daddies and wants me in the game to build her financial stability. She wants more $ ,so she gets a new Daddy and loses one. Maybe the new one will pay better.

[HollywoodGuy]

$ is great if you can score that, but a lot depends on your game, age, location, and patience. I would ask her what she hopes for. It's like any negotiation. You try to get the other party to throw out the first number.

I have to disagree on one thing. I always throw out the first number and never negotiate. (It's not likely anyone is going to ask for less.) But I also let them know they can pass on intercourse on the first date as long as they get me off. At least 50% still go all the way, anyway.

[HollywoodGuy]

HollywoodGuy is still the man!! .

I have been around the bowl for about a year (Thanks for all folks here). Unfortunately, I got several SBs, and I was only able to score one UTR w / $ Maybe my geolocation is tougher market. Scoring $ SBs are tough in San Diego. I have suspended my hunting activities for several months now. Itching to go back.

It is slimmer pickings down there. And my demographic is AA or mixed (disproportionately represented and less demanding) but young (18 to 22) so less girls to choose from. And at least half spinners (not too many of these either). You must hit them up on day one. Good luck. It only takes a few minutes a day to find the new girls and send them an intro message. I search up to 50 miles from my zip code.

[FredMoore]

I admit that right now it is hard for me to adequately measure the sugar. We're planning for this upcoming rendezvous to be an overnighter and I don't want to lowball or give away the farm. Again, I am always open to receiving advise and criticism; so by all means continue my education.

R2.

$ is great if you can score that, but a lot depends on your game, age, location, and patience. I would ask her what she hopes for. It's like any negotiation. You try to get the other party to throw out the first number.

[Dog Rice]

HollywoodGuy is still the man!! .

I have been around the bowl for about a year (Thanks for all folks here). Unfortunately, I got several SBs, and I was only able to score one UTR w / $ Maybe my geolocation is tougher market. Scoring $ SBs are tough in San Diego. I have suspended my hunting activities for several months now. Itching to go back.

$ for her plus you cover the room, food, party favors, etc. I currently have 16 girls in the queue. 8 pros and 8 non pros all agreed to at $. Hoping to meet up with at least 2 of the non pros this week. Once you build your pipeline, that $ will seem like a lot or at least fair. This will reflect in your overall attitude during discussions. You must have a take away mentality and be willing to walk with no reservations. Girls will sense your confidence. The GPS girls and most pros will walk. The needy non pros (needy, as in, they need more than just cash to be happy) and many pros on the down low (or UTR girls) will accept. Overall these girls appear to be mostly 8's, with a couple 7's and a couple 9's.

[HollywoodGuy]

I'm still learning to walk in the bowl. Thanks for the easy to remember advise on this one, it'll probably come in real handy sooner rather than later. I've got a play date planned for next weekend with my 20's single mom. Since I am a competitive person this meets that need in my personality whereas my previous recreational activities were more like fishing in an aquarium (of course while using a variety of precautionary resources). The bowl on the other hand, has given me (at least in my mind) a greater feeling of being in control and has offered me a little "cat and mouse" and "fox and hound" aspect to the hobby.

I admit that right now it is hard for me to adequately measure the sugar. We're planning for this upcoming rendezvous to be an overnighter and I don't want to lowball or give away the farm. Again, I am always open to receiving advise and criticism; so by all means continue my education.

R2.

$ for her plus you cover the room, food, party favors, etc. I currently have 16 girls in the queue. 8 pros and 8 non pros all agreed to at $. Hoping to meet up with at least 2 of the non pros this week. Once you build your pipeline, that $ will seem like a lot or at least fair. This will reflect in your overall attitude during discussions. You must have a take away mentality and be willing to walk with no reservations. Girls will sense your confidence. The GPS girls and most pros will walk. The needy non pros (needy, as in, they need more than just cash to be happy) and many pros on the down low (or UTR girls) will accept. Overall these girls appear to be mostly 8's, with a couple 7's and a couple 9's.

[Reffin2]

Never trust a girl that won't take the sugar. An ounce of sugar today will save you a pound of it tomorrow. I am debt free and intend to stay that way.

I'm still learning to walk in the bowl. Thanks for the easy to remember advise on this one, it'll probably come in real handy sooner rather than later. I've got a play date planned for next weekend with my 20's single mom. Since I am a competitive person this meets that need in my personality whereas my previous recreational activities were more like fishing in an aquarium (of course while using a variety of precautionary resources). The bowl on the other hand, has given me (at least in my mind) a greater feeling of being in control and has offered me a little "cat and mouse" and "fox and hound" aspect to the hobby.

I admit that right now it is hard for me to adequately measure the sugar. We're planning for this upcoming rendezvous to be an overnighter and I don't want to lowball or give away the farm. Again, I am always open to receiving advise and criticism; so by all means continue my education.

R2.

[Pats Fan1]

Hold up, just hold up a minute. PLEASE explain to us why you would give her "sugar" when she told you (more than once I believe) that it wasn't wanted. What part of the game is that?

I do the same, it reminds them of why they are there. The most expensive punanni in the world is free punanni.

A2

CBrownEye: Maybe I'm the skeptic... You have a limited number of posts and looking at them you seem really willing to tell everyone else how they should be doing things and conducting themselves. Yet I didn't find one post from you giving any experience you've had with anyone escort, SB, MP, SW ...nothing. How about you contribute something before you start criticizing others? Just my thoughts...but then again I'm in kind of a pissy mood this eve.

[Graham111]

When SB10 started with "you led me on, I love you" and my life looked shattered, I came back with Quid Pro Quo, I always kept my end of the arrangement but it was an arrangement and you never said no. I am not sure it made any difference to her but it sure made a difference to ME! Eventually the storm passed; I see she has a new bf on facebook.

One wise sage here has said never take advantage, provide a fair sugar and keep your temper in a box. So true gents.

Working CL has been a whole learning experience from SA but may be looking up. I have been chasing a HYB since mid December and finally have a M&G tomorrow. Based on her pics she is the little hard body I need to start a new years resolution. Hope she is as slutty as her pics...keep you posted and happy hunting!

Never trust a girl that won't take the sugar. An ounce of sugar today will save you a pound of it tomorrow. I am debt free and intend to stay that way.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hold up, just hold up a minute. PLEASE explain to us why you would give her "sugar" when she told you (more than once I believe) that it wasn't wanted. What part of the game is that?

I do the same, it reminds them of why they are there. The most expensive punanni in the world is free punanni.

A2

Never trust a girl that won't take the sugar. An ounce of sugar today will save you a pound of it tomorrow. I am debt free and intend to stay that way.

[CBrownEye]

Met CSB6 today. After some talk, some making out, we head to the bed. She was even more stunning naked then clothed. Long hair to her waist; a J. Lo body (leaner then J. Lo but with same wide hips and great ass.) She hasn't had kids, so the body was firm all over. I don't know where to start. When she gave oral, she showed she had wonderful skills. When she received oral, she was incredibly responsive. When I told her I wanted that pussy, she actually said to me: "I'm not sure if that's a good idea. You won't be able to stand it."

I had forgotten what a tight 23 year old pussy was like. She was right, it was all I could do to stand it. It was the best I have had in a long long time. But I had to show her that us old guys still had game so I proceeded to try to break her in half. The view of her under me with those gorgeous thighs spread wide was a glorious sight. I spent the whole time in mish because I couldn't give up that view. She was a great dirty talker, something that I love, which had me going stark raving crazy. Any way I think you get the picture. When we finished, she could hardly walk and I had muscles hurting that I forgot I had. I gave her some sugar, she thanked me profusely and wanted to know when she would see me again. I had overstayed my pass and I just made it in before the warden. I had to go sneak some aspirin before I got asked why I was acting so funny.

Lit is right about a lot of things, but one thing he is absolutely right about: that early 20's pussy is fantastic.

Hold up, just hold up a minute. PLEASE explain to us why you would give her "sugar" when she told you (more than once I believe) that it wasn't wanted. What part of the game is that?

I do the same, it reminds them of why they are there. The most expensive punanni in the world is free punanni.

A2

[CBrownEye]

I'm curious how you handle it on a first meeting when a potential SB doesn't look like her photos? Do you simply say "we're not a good fit" and walk away or do you continue to see if she might have other redeeming features? It depends for me, but the one time I continued after 'bad' photos I regretted it. I met a potential SB 3 weekends ago. Her pictures were probably 10 years old and she hadn't aged well. We sat and chatted a while. She asked if I wanted to continue and I wished her luck, told her I didn't think we could work, left her a small amount of sugar and left.

Why will it be your last time with SB4? Feel free to send her my way LOL.

SB9 sounds like fun too.

Good luck with your weekend! I've got 2 girls lined up myself, but of course, both require travel and they're in opposite directions. Both of them are college students. I've met one of them before and I'm breaking my own rule about not seeing her again since there was nothing more than dinner the first time.

If she doesn't have a smart phone or can't get to a computer for a live video chat, don't see her. Simple as that.

[CBrownEye]

Interesting concept. But I wonder if it will raise suspicion. Also not sure if you gain anything because they have your I. D. Info anyway. Usually I pay for the room in advance with a credit card and the bill shows up under the door in the morning marked paid.

Your I.the. Is not the problem since it leaves no trail if you pay in cash. It's not like you S.O. Is going around asking to see I.the. Info at local hotels. They wouldn't give it out anyway even if they did keep it on file LOL. Cash is key to your privacy.

[FredMoore]

I am thrilled to see such an influx of new bowlers! Welcome! It is good to have new talent and input.

ATF #4.

As for this oldster, I'm still entertaining my ATF #4 weekly. I just discovered her on SDFM (we met on SA where she promptly took her profile down.) Actually, it was pretty funny, since I have a different profile there she Kissed me not knowing it was me. Ooops! She has always been up front about not being a fan of monogamy, so obviously she is on the prowl for more Do Re Mi. I know I am satisfying her sexually. We are very compatible. She wants full support since she has a child now and doesn't want to work, and I can't afford that. She agreed to let me know when she has a new SD and I have told her I will opt out. I care about her too much to trade semen with a bunch of other guys. If she wants I will recommend her to some of you guys. She is a ten across the board. I suspect she won't be that mercenary but we'll see. She could lie and keep seeing me but she is brutally honest, so I don't think she will do that.

SB #2.

Interestingly, my SB #2 is a FB for 1/3 the money and I think she will do just fine keeping my tanks empty. I might even see her twice / week if I move on from ATF. She is a 7/7/7/7 but has a very tight cooch and wrings me dry every time.

SO # 1 and only.

Lots of oversight and awareness, so I have to try to keep a very low profile. So backing away from ATF might not be a bad idea anyway.