Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[BuyingSmiles]

Am I the only USASG member who doesn't believe Silk wrote this? This sounds like a post written by EE himself using Silk's account. No?

The Mongernator.

Silk cut and pasted something EE said, then basically said what he was saying bad business. She is stating that EE's argument of youth and good looks hold no water as their are plenty of beautiful young ladies that act in a timely professional manner. Unless I am just drunk again maybe I am off base.

[John Cleland]

Am I the only USASG member who doesn't believe Silk wrote this? This sounds like a post written by EE himself using Silk's account. No?

The Mongernator.

Yes I recruit the young and hot providers. Maybe I am Insane but they have what most all other providers cannot match, youth and looks.

Yes they are hard to motivate and get commitments from. They do not deal with the backlash. I do. I try to get them all on the same level but it takes time. And I know your time is important and is mine and hers.

Really youth and looks I can think of at least 6 great looking girls on this board who are time and appointment consistent you shouldn't have to motivate anyone to want to do better for themselves and if eveyones time was as important as you claim this wouldn't still be happening after several bad reviews concerning the same issue. I think if your going to do this then freakin do it not have somebody hold your hand and direct you as to proper escort etiquette just my opinion although I'm afraid this can only get worse if you let somebody walk all over you and never tell them to stop how are they supposed to know when they have walked too much.

[PillowTalk69]

No offense meant but do you have a virus issue since both my malware shows blockage and so does my Norton. Any help would be appreciated since I just had my computer cleaned and am trying to get my ck cleaned also and the later is far more important since Santa came more times at Christmas than I did. Lucky old man.

[ClassASweetie]

Yes I recruit the young and hot providers. Maybe I am Insane but they have what most all other providers cannot match, youth and looks.

Yes they are hard to motivate and get commitments from. They do not deal with the backlash. I do. I try to get them all on the same level but it takes time. And I know your time is important and is mine and hers.

Really youth and looks I can think of at least 6 great looking girls on this board who are time and appointment consistent you shouldn't have to motivate anyone to want to do better for themselves and if eveyones time was as important as you claim this wouldn't still be happening after several bad reviews concerning the same issue. I think if your going to do this then freakin do it not have somebody hold your hand and direct you as to proper escort etiquette just my opinion although I'm afraid this can only get worse if you let somebody walk all over you and never tell them to stop how are they supposed to know when they have walked too much.

I couldn't have said this better. Being late, having to be motivated, that's bullshit. This is a business and a hobby and it's also more to it than that. If someone needs to be motivated, they shouldn't be here. I have so much fun in this hobby and have never needed to be motivated to see someone. If and that's a BIG IF I ever got to that point, then it's time to move on. Also let me say that it ain't just his girls with youth an looks, there are so many beautiful women on here. That's why men come to this site.

[SilkyWetness]

Yes I recruit the young and hot providers. Maybe I am Insane but they have what most all other providers cannot match, youth and looks.

Yes they are hard to motivate and get commitments from. They do not deal with the backlash. I do. I try to get them all on the same level but it takes time. And I know your time is important and is mine and hers.

Really youth and looks I can think of at least 6 great looking girls on this board who are time and appointment consistent you shouldn't have to motivate anyone to want to do better for themselves and if eveyones time was as important as you claim this wouldn't still be happening after several bad reviews concerning the same issue. I think if your going to do this then freakin do it not have somebody hold your hand and direct you as to proper escort etiquette just my opinion although I'm afraid this can only get worse if you let somebody walk all over you and never tell them to stop how are they supposed to know when they have walked too much.

[ClassASweetie]

Could you providers please be honest about your boob size? It's not like us mongers aren't going to notice. If you are going out for the evening you can wear padding, push-up bras, or even stuff them with sweat socks. But let's face it, shortly after we arrive we are going to see, feel and suck on them. Even if it's dark in the room. And just because you went out and bought a DD bra to surround those be tits and look big in pictures, they are still be's. Or, if they were DD's ten years ago when you weighed 73 lbs more or when you were pregnant, if they are back to be's now, tell us! I've been around long enough to know I have a be size hand, but I love DD's. When you tell me you've got them, I want them.

Finally, you guys, when you give your reviews it might be a good idea to report obvious exaggerations. We regularly report on old pictures or weight differences, but boobs seem to get a pass. To start the honesty ball rolling, no, my dick isn't 11".

Baby I am a 38 DD and proud to have these big twins. You can come play with these big twin girls anytime you like. They love all the attention they can get. I will happily show what I got. All natural and soft, on top of that they hang just right.

[Sweet TnA]

I have more than a handful for you my love! Maybe you'd like to refresh your memory! .

Xoxo.

Amber.

Could you providers please be honest about your boob size? It's not like us mongers aren't going to notice. If you are going out for the evening you can wear padding, push-up bras, or even stuff them with sweat socks. But let's face it, shortly after we arrive we are going to see, feel and suck on them. Even if it's dark in the room. And just because you went out and bought a DD bra to surround those be tits and look big in pictures, they are still be's. Or, if they were DD's ten years ago when you weighed 73 lbs more or when you were pregnant, if they are back to be's now, tell us! I've been around long enough to know I have a be size hand, but I love DD's. When you tell me you've got them, I want them.

Finally, you guys, when you give your reviews it might be a good idea to report obvious exaggerations. We regularly report on old pictures or weight differences, but boobs seem to get a pass. To start the honesty ball rolling, no, my dick isn't 11".

[Gatty23]

Could you providers please be honest about your boob size? It's not like us mongers aren't going to notice. If you are going out for the evening you can wear padding, push-up bras, or even stuff them with sweat socks. But let's face it, shortly after we arrive we are going to see, feel and suck on them. Even if it's dark in the room. And just because you went out and bought a DD bra to surround those be tits and look big in pictures, they are still be's. Or, if they were DD's ten years ago when you weighed 73 lbs more or when you were pregnant, if they are back to be's now, tell us! I've been around long enough to know I have a be size hand, but I love DD's. When you tell me you've got them, I want them.

Finally, you guys, when you give your reviews it might be a good idea to report obvious exaggerations. We regularly report on old pictures or weight differences, but boobs seem to get a pass. To start the honesty ball rolling, no, my dick isn't 11".

[Member #4637]

DNut, you are 100% correct. This is a service business. Anyone who believes being 45 min late or more is to be expected or excused is deserving of being run out of the business. I have not, since my 1 and ony visit with Melea 10 months ago, used EE and am not inclined to ever attempt it again. I'll stick with the independents I know or new ones who are highly reviewed here. Oh, and my experience with Buddah's girls has been perfect so far.

SC.

First of all, let me correct you on your numbers. She was NOT 40 minutes late. She was 54 minutes past the appointment when she CALLED me, which doesn't even mean she has arrived. I looked out the window and there was no one there. Providers who do outcall are NOT always 15-20 minutes late. If that's your expectation without telling the client that it's a possibility, then you are in the wrong business.

FYI-- I gave her up to 45 minutes to be late, which is TRIPPLE your 15 minute expectation. That's when I cancelled, at 45 minutes. And the reason I didn't act like it was a problem until it became a problem (at the 40 minute mark when I texted that I was thinking of cancelling.) is because it wouldn't have helped the situation. Would she have gotten there any sooner if I told you I was getting pissed?

Secondly, it doesn't matter whether or not I have plans at 8:01. Whether I do or do not is of no concern of yours. If I planned on just walking around my house naked with a vacuum cleaner hose stuck up my ass giving myself an enema at 8:05, that's MY TIME and not for you or or any provider to allocate for yourselves as a buffer. You want a buffer? You ask for one.

It doesn't matter if it's 2 days before Christmas, or 10 days after Cinco de Mayo. I made the appointment for 7 pm, you accepted and verified. It's not unreasonable for me to expect that she be there at 7 pm. I think, and everyone here pretty much agrees that me giving her 45 minutes before cancelling was being generous of me.

If she has GPS (as you claim she was using) she has ZERO excuses why she couldn't be there within a reasonable time, and 54 minutes before calling allegedly from my house is NOT reasonable. I can drive from downtown to King's Island AND BACK in 45 minutes. I can drive from Covington, KY to the northern part of Lexington, KY in 55 minutes. I can make an entire drive around the I-275 loop, all 80 miles of it, in 55 minutes. ZERO excuses.

So, if you think that coming here on The Octagon, and make yourself out to be the victim of some unreasonable man, then you really need to learn some customer service skills. I was more than reasonable; more than some of the other guys. A better businessman would have apologized, offer to re-schedule with a time guarantee, or just say, "I'm going to address this with Melea so it never happens again.

THAT would have been the thing to do. Instead you try to make me out to be the unreasonable bad guy, trying to excuse the tardiness with, "It was 8:01 pm 2 days before Christmas. You can't be doing anything else anyway." That is bull shit. 100% utter bull shit.

[Festellung]

I have to say, a few recent posts by a couple of individuals has me worried. I'm sure the other rational, normal, members of this board know immediately who I mean.

It's not just the veiled (or not so veiled) threats against providers, but the general timbre of the posts that gives me mental images of a John Wayne Gacy type angrily grinding out these messages.

An ugly inside trapped behind an equally ugly and frustrated outside seems downright volatile and dangerous to me, especially when these wackos seem to think the ability to scrape together a couple of hundred bucks entitles them to their mysogyny.

I hope providers have taken note of these true colors showing through lately, and will protect themselves by simply refusing to see these angry sociopaths.

The warning signs are there; these losers are dangerous.

I'm not going to go back and check, however as a reminder, even with the relaxed rules in The Octagon, direct threats to anybody are not allowed. If you see something like that please report it.

A2

[D Nut]

I move this to the octagon since I can't have my say in the other discussion forms.

Yes she was late...Yes it is and was a problem...

But I did tell you about it and updated you everytime I was updated. I cannot call or text them constantly as they use the GPS on their phones.

Traffic, lack of sunlight and street lights, unfamiliar part of town, wrong turns, wrong directions from GPS (yes this happens), and just the basic fact she is a girl driving herself in the middle of the night using the phone makes them late.

At no point did you act like it was a issue. I would think most providers show up 15-20 late the first time visiting most clients cause they don't know where to park and what building it is and apartment etc..

It's to reason you would not have plans at 8:01 pm. It seems as it's 2 days before Christmas you would be more forgiving. Yes I recruit the young and hot providers. Maybe I am Insane but they have what most all other providers cannot match, youth and looks.

Yes they are hard to motivate and get commitments from. They do not deal with the backlash... I do.. I try to get them all on the same level but it takes time. And I know your time is important and is mine and hers.

If you want bash and ridicule me over Melea being late 40 min then that's your right and that is what makes USASG great. I can certainly see why a lot of providers do not offer outcall. Not everyone likes or uses my service. I understand.

Again Melea and I apologize and hope to Dnut and Mslim84 . Hope everyone has a great and joyful holiday,

Thanks EE.

First of all, let me correct you on your numbers. She was NOT 40 minutes late. She was 54 minutes past the appointment when she CALLED me, which doesn't even mean she has arrived. I looked out the window and there was no one there. Providers who do outcall are NOT always 15-20 minutes late. If that's your expectation without telling the client that it's a possibility, then you are in the wrong business.

FYI-- I gave her up to 45 minutes to be late, which is TRIPPLE your 15 minute expectation. That's when I cancelled, at 45 minutes. And the reason I didn't act like it was a problem until it became a problem (at the 40 minute mark when I texted that I was thinking of cancelling.) is because it wouldn't have helped the situation. Would she have gotten there any sooner if I told you I was getting pissed?

Secondly, it doesn't matter whether or not I have plans at 8:01. Whether I do or do not is of no concern of yours. If I planned on just walking around my house naked with a vacuum cleaner hose stuck up my ass giving myself an enema at 8:05, that's MY TIME and not for you or or any provider to allocate for yourselves as a buffer. You want a buffer? You ask for one.

It doesn't matter if it's 2 days before Christmas, or 10 days after Cinco de Mayo. I made the appointment for 7 pm, you accepted and verified. It's not unreasonable for me to expect that she be there at 7 pm. I think, and everyone here pretty much agrees that me giving her 45 minutes before cancelling was being generous of me.

If she has GPS (as you claim she was using) she has ZERO excuses why she couldn't be there within a reasonable time, and 54 minutes before calling allegedly from my house is NOT reasonable. I can drive from downtown to King's Island AND BACK in 45 minutes. I can drive from Covington, KY to the northern part of Lexington, KY in 55 minutes. I can make an entire drive around the I-275 loop, all 80 miles of it, in 55 minutes. ZERO excuses.

So, if you think that coming here on The Octagon, and make yourself out to be the victim of some unreasonable man, then you really need to learn some customer service skills. I was more than reasonable; more than some of the other guys. A better businessman would have apologized, offer to re-schedule with a time guarantee, or just say, "I'm going to address this with Melea so it never happens again.

THAT would have been the thing to do. Instead you try to make me out to be the unreasonable bad guy, trying to excuse the tardiness with, "It was 8:01 pm 2 days before Christmas. You can't be doing anything else anyway." That is bull shit. 100% utter bull shit.

[PillowTalk69]

The site is having issues loading to get on or at least on my puter. Maybe just my machine.

[Dweezil]

That's what sets you and other top notch providers apart, attention to details along with common courtesy.

MM.

Attention to detail, common courtesy, AND thinking about this as a business. Not mechanical or work-like in the moment but all of the prep that goes around it. Think about it fellow mongers, if you had a work meeting somewhere any you'd never been there before, wouldn't you plan to arrive early 10-20-30 minutes. That's just part of the job so that at meeting time, you KNOW you're going to be where you need to be. Getting lost happens but it doesn't become a problem unless you've timed everything for perfection.

Pros, and I include Ally in that group (as well as some of the other "usual suspects" of top providers that roam these parts), know that chit can happen that they set their plans to allow for it without it effecting the meeting time.

And while I'm on a rant. The un-pro thing that makes me absolutely nuts is when you talk to a provider to get the general area, then you talk to her to get the specific property, then you call to say "I'm in the parking lot, what room" and they say "by the way, do you have any raincoats, I'm all out". I know, I know. Boy scouts are always prepared but sometimes there are circumstances where I just don't want to be walking around with a pocket full of trojans. And then, to wait for the third call to say BYOC. Seriously. WTF. That's like the plumber showing up at your front door to repair the leaky shower and announcing he can only do it if you've got a pipe wrench in the basement.

Last time I got that message 60 seconds from hitting the room, I said screw it, I'm out of here. Miraculously, I got a call back in 30 seconds announcing that some supplies had just mysteriously appeared.

Anyway, my point is that a pro is not just a pro during the meeting, they're a pro during all the prep too. Going early to be sure they're not late. Having all the appropriate supplies. Being focused on good communications before and during a session. All these little things add up and ladies, you can say it's not your job because we're only paying for the half hour or hour (or more) of your time. What sets the Ally's, Molly's, or LSM's (as examples) apart is they know that they have to prepare to deliver a great experience. It ain't just good luck. There are more than a few providers who think their only role in all this is to show up and be horny. That sure helps but the prep makes all the difference in the world.

Rant over. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Have a great day.

Dz.

[Mmslim84]

That's what sets you and other top notch providers apart, attention to details along with common courtesy.

MM.

My take on this, and maybe this is part of just me, but I always figure out where I am going ahead of time, and aim for getting there 30 min early, that way I know I won't be late. Yes traffic and dark and all that are factors, but shouldn't be the reason anyone is that late. IF I have been more late than that due to an accident or something else out of my control I do keep in CONSTANT contact with the gentlemen to let him know just that. So there are a few out there, including myself that value a client's time and getting there on time as well each and every time. The 15-20 min late each time thing to me is very unprofessional IMHO.

[PhatDaty]

Sasha, CupCake, Becca and I want to wish everyone a Very Merry Christmas!

Despite his platitudes, make no mistake, UTR is nothing short of Grimm's Krampus. Book with him if you wish to simply avoid being with any gal I have seen since I bruised his ego, however I would proffer that his ladies would be even better if they break free from his erratic and often Psychotic bonds.