"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[FredMoore]

I live in an economically depressed state and live in area of 6 colleges an hour or closer to me not to mention 3 hours from a top yearly ranking top 5 party college. It would look like with this amount of students, milfs and any other living breathing woman there would be a number of ladies that would need a little help, SO WHERE ARE THEY?

Has anyone noticed or studied if the geographic local has anything to do with the abundance or lack of sugar babies?
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Can you give us a zip code of your cruising area? We can all check it out. I think SA is the best populated site I have worked, and SDFM the worst. I meet more UTRs, Nando 1's,and Pros on the latter. I think you are better off with the college age crowd in your area dominated by multiple institutes of higher yearning nearby. 10's of 1000's of nubile broke HCGs and recent grads are fertile territory to mine. Look at ages 18 to 35 . Townies in college towns are frequently Nando types, particularly if it is rural.

]Revvo: Liars are rife in the bowl, starting with us. I understate my age by ten yrs but can get away with it but would never about obvious things like body size. What are they thinking when they send out a pic of a hottie and they show up as a blimp? Maybe some guys do them anyway and they know a few will bite.

Hollywood: Good point about appreciating what you have and congratulations on your trio of hotties. The grass is not always greener. This could apply to an SO as well. But hunting is what we do.

Scotty: To bareback or not to bareback, that is the question? There is risk in the bowl and we each have to decide which ones to take. Yrs ago I got the Clap from BBBJ and covered FS. So oral is not safe either. I pick and choose these days but choose BB most of the time. I don't do escorts anymore or Nando 1's. I passed on a 10/10 recently who was ready to signup for the weekly plan at a reasonable rate but would not compromise on covered. I discussed it up front but usually when I meet them they are comfortable enough with my demeanor to let me enter bare. I didn't want to take a chance on her since money is more tightly monitored and time is dear as well. She was a 10/10 22 yr old (sigh!) I know myself and covered just doesn't do it. My former ATF 10/10/10/10 Asian couldn't pop me when she got her hair up her ass about condoms when her new IRLBF she dumped me for gave her Chlamydia.

[Revvo]

I had an eye openeing experience tonite. I was supposed see the afore mentioned long lost SB whose pic I put in the last post. Anyway she txted me and wanted to know if I wanted a 3 some with her girlfriend.

I had her send me a pic and she was maybe 5'7' 120 AA and very pretty. I reluctantly agreed as I really just wanted to see her. So after a 12 hour day I went over to her place and she tells me I am only going to be with her gf because she is not feeling well.

I was happy to see that in person she really was a beauty. I gave her a hug and a kiss and I just wasn't feeling it. I went through the motions and got my hours worth and agreed to pay her the entire $$ that I was going to pay for the 2 of them together.

My friend did join in a little to help keep the ball rolling, but it just wasnt doing it for me. The girl tried and she was nice but the sparks weren't flying. On the way home I started thinking about my ATF and realizing how lucky I am to have her and my other 2 regular girls.

I have kept a spread sheet of the 100+ girls I banged in the last 2 or 3 years to find the 3 winners I have now. I started remembering all the bad dates and work I put into getting this far. My advice is, wheen you meet a keeper, keep her.

It's so easy to get jaded and think "oh she spent too much this week" or "I can find 10 more to fuck on the site no problem". But real chemistry from a beautiful girl that likes or even loves you is worth a lot. So tonite I am going to go to sleep and not feel bad because I haven't found the ultimate girl. I keep telling my roommate that she is making it really difficult to meet the next real SB, cuz now the bar is so high

My roommate, my girlfriend ATF and my SB wifey are worth what I spend even if times are tough right now. I had an SB who used to tell me all the time. Whats really important is to create lasting memories. And I have a lot of them with the girls I have now. I know my best friend roommate is probably reading this. I Love you babe. Goodnite.

Take heed my brothers. Wiser words have never been said. The search for a better more perfect baby just because there is so much available out there is a very dangerous path to go down.

Enjoy the one you are with. If it is good then together you can make it great. But the never ending search for something a little better, cuter, more sexy, bigger boobs, etc. Can really wear on you.

If you have that connection with one. Cherish it while it lasts.

Revvo.

[Dsprdo]

I responded to an add in my city for a beautiful blond artist. She replied she was interested, but that she did not actually live here. She said that for discretion, she had changed her location. I knew where this was headed but out of curiosity asked where she lived and would she be interested in a once per month arrangement. She responded with her location, which is about 400 miles away. She told me that she was looking for an arrangement that would provide her with about 5 k per month, but since we would only be seeing each other once a month, she could see how that might be a smidgen high. I sent her back a note with a some data on income percentiles, and deleted her. Where do they get these ideas?

[HollywoodGuy]

Scott,

Well-said.. I always have rain-coat on for FS except my SO. However, I have weakness on BJ..

For escorts, I definitely go w / CBJ.. For babies / gfs, I usually go w / BBBJ.. (but this is getting me nervous especially w / babies)..

Thought about CBJ / BBBJ.

Get those babies exclusive. Also a girl with a yeast infection can still transmit that to your balls (jock itch) even if you wear a cover. Miconazol spray to the rescue.

I am no angel and do take the risk from time to time. So you all better cut out the kissing, BBBJ's and DATY if you are that worried about it because nothing is more pervasive the HSV1 & 2.

[Dog Rice]

Scott,

Well-said.. I always have rain-coat on for FS except my SO. However, I have weakness on BJ..

For escorts, I definitely go w / CBJ.. For babies / gfs, I usually go w / BBBJ.. (but this is getting me nervous especially w / babies)..

Thought about CBJ / BBBJ.

Brothers,

At the risk of igniting this whole pitched battle once again, I maintain that the only way to play in the majors is fully-suited; it just makes the most sense. Percentages aside, it seems like most of the recent posts are about "that one time". Can the case be any more clearly stated?

I always make sure Scottie is properly dressed, and in four or more years of Bowl time, I have yet to bring a surprise home to my SO. I'm not scolding or lecturing, just sayin'.

We all will continue to do what we please, but maybe a moment's sober reflection would help to clarify the situation? I believe that if you ride bareback, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't make you immune, only living on borrowed time.

These are my two cents, and not meant to judge at all. We're all immortal, until we aren't.

Scott.

[Revvo]

So if you have been following my saga below. You know I have had a somewhat promising engagement with a very beautiful blond listed as REVVO_POT2. Well I am sad to report that it was not good. Not good at all. I must put this into perspective. The profile she referred to herself as pretty and petite. I looked up the definition of petite in the dictionary. It was not her. She described herself as slim. No this was not slim. I got stood up on Saturday by her and she told me it was her daughter that pushed her phone in the sink and it was ruined. That is not true either. Today she slipped and told me she has had this current phone for a year. So she is not that smart either.

So we had a meeting today. Once again. Perspective. The photos on the profile are not good they are fucking awesome. The person in the profile is a legitimate 10. The face is partially obscured so I asked for additional photos. Which she sent. They showed a cute blond woman with large breasts. So I figured hey she will be cute with a 10 body not bad huh? I tell you women can really fucking lie with these photos. It was not a 10 body.

So I drove over an hour to the M&G. She was 40 min late. At this point I had too many suspicions but I was curiose to see what she was going to look like. It was not good. Just not good. Actually she was not petite she is fat, not thick fat. Not PHAT just plain fat. She is short which can be cute when you weigh 110 lbs. But not when you weigh 160. She was kind of cute in the face. But she was just not really well kept at all. Hair was a little jacked up. Clothes were trashy. Even though she did drive a nice convertible. Her conversation skills and personality can best be described as nervous, stunted, pained, nice, but limited. I had to carry the conversation. She says she is 34 I would guess a little older.

I decided I would be nice as I always was. But there was no way I am fucking another fatty. I have had my limit. I am not going to waste my sperm or my money. The lying being the worst part. I just don't get it. What does she expect me to do with all of these lies and inconsistencies? I now give her a 7/5/5/? .

Oh and she was ready for the FC. She so much as told me. I told her I had limited time. My lie. Earlier on the phone she had agreed to 150 and at the M&G she now was asking for more. I told her could not do it. Every girl I had been with was fine with 150 and she was cool with it then. I did walk her to her car. And kissed her. Another dissapointment. It was like kissing a wooden face hard as a rock. What a difference after kissing my little Colombian mami last week she kissed like an angel. Softest lips so sensuous.

Anyway, it does not always go well. This may be the biggest divergence between pictures and reality that I have ever seen.

You never know what the bowl is going to serve you my brothers.

Be careful out there. You may just end up with a fatty.

Revvo.

[John HandCock]

Hi guys love to read about the adventures and stories, which is what got me to give this a try. I jumped in July and have been a member of SD4 M since my entry. I have set my sights on a 50 mile radius of my zip code and unlike most I have looked for the 30's something MILF. My 50 mile radius has turned out to be a dead zone so I have expanded to 100 miles, still with not much luck. I have had numerous request from utr ladies meeting one who us a nurse / part time stripper who is listed on SD4 M. I have also noticed several of the BP girls on there. I have met one 36 year old who has kids with low paying job and no time and lived 3 hours away, which turned out to be too expensive, a 32 year old with a mentally unstable ex who showed up at our meeting so she left with him to keep me from getting my ass whipped, to the 21 year old that lived 1 1/2 hours away that expressed desire to do this only to flake at the last minute and never be heard from again.

I live in an economically depressed state and live in area of 6 colleges an hour or closer to me not to mention 3 hours from a top yearly ranking top 5 party college. It would look like with this amount of students, milfs and any other living breathing woman there would be a number of ladies that would need a little help, SO WHERE ARE THEY?

Has anyone noticed or studied if the geographic local has anything to do with the abundance or lack of sugar babies?

I have maintained my membership to SD4 M because of the entertainment it provides, better than a 3 ring circus but due to the non activity starting to think about the escort section again. Anyway keep the adventures coming, I enjoy the thought of what might be.

[F Scott]

Brothers,

At the risk of igniting this whole pitched battle once again, I maintain that the only way to play in the majors is fully-suited; it just makes the most sense. Percentages aside, it seems like most of the recent posts are about "that one time". Can the case be any more clearly stated?

I always make sure Scottie is properly dressed, and in four or more years of Bowl time, I have yet to bring a surprise home to my SO. I'm not scolding or lecturing, just sayin'.

We all will continue to do what we please, but maybe a moment's sober reflection would help to clarify the situation? I believe that if you ride bareback, just because it hasn't happened yet doesn't make you immune, only living on borrowed time.

These are my two cents, and not meant to judge at all. We're all immortal, until we aren't.

Scott.

[HollywoodGuy]

Couple of years ago when I first started in this hobby I met SB4. 30 YO AA with a real hard body. Although she was a single Mom she was flaky. Must have had another gig. First night we are waiting for round 2 and she tells me she likes to have her ass hole licked. More than licking...you bet! Boned her BB a couple of times all night, mostly in her ass. Lo and behold SA comes down with vaginal infection. Believe it or not no suspicion cast on me! But I learned my lesson. Only a rain coat in that hole. Actually every hole except SB13. Just can't quit the feel of that one bare.

Yeah. Never go ass to puss without a good washing off. LOL.

[Graham111]

Couple of years ago when I first started in this hobby I met SB4. 30 YO AA with a real hard body. Although she was a single Mom she was flaky. Must have had another gig. First night we are waiting for round 2 and she tells me she likes to have her ass hole licked. More than licking...you bet! Boned her BB a couple of times all night, mostly in her ass. Lo and behold SA comes down with vaginal infection. Believe it or not no suspicion cast on me! But I learned my lesson. Only a rain coat in that hole. Actually every hole except SB13. Just can't quit the feel of that one bare.

[BikeRider]

Actually yes. Almost every place you see HPV discussed, they mention the fact that HPV can take a really long time to show up on a screening test. Years and years. So they always stress that an HPV-positive test it's not a sign of infidelity. About the only case where you'd be exposed is if both you and your wife had no prior sex partners when you were married. Otherwise, either one of you could have picked it up before marriage, and it only showed up until much later.

Agreed...although I had a buddy who this happened to and his wife's GYN was telling her the opposite. The GYN's argument was that they had been married for 10+ years and she had clean paps. Ergo. Someone cheated. In the end, his wife divorced him (probably for the best. But never fun).

Even when the science says you have plausible deniability. Doesn't mean that your SO will buy it.

[Dsprdo]

It's been a pretty good week for me. My little wasp ice queen has turned out to be a find. When we met she had just broken off an engagement with her college sweetheart, so I thought there might be some drama with her. After a week she decided the wedding was back on, so I assumed that might be a problem, but she assured me it won't affect our arrangement. At the beginning I took a chance and gave her 500 for the month, and so far I've seen her three times. She has a flexible schedule and appears willing to come over whenever I want. I will continue to see her about twice a week for a drama free good time.

The bohemian new age girl continues to be flaky and unpredictable. I spent time with her today for a morning romp and breakfast, and then she had to go to work. She is hard to schedule because she's so flighty. I had advanced her 300 with the agreement it would be against future allowance (yeah, I know what I said about advances, but sometimes you make exceptions) and today got me even on that, and I think I will see her once more for no allowance. After that we'll go back to pnp. She is a lot of fun but just not dependable, so I will not count on her, but will see her once in a while when opportunity knocks.

The tall college girl SB virgin flaked on me. I had texted her a few times over the weekend with no response so I expected that she was gone. On Monday I got a text saying she had thought about it and she just couldn't do it. I sent her a nice note asking her to keep me in mind if she ever changed her mind. I saw that she had been active on SA a few times during the week, so I sent her one more note just asking how she is; but had all but written her off. This afternoon I received a response, before I opened it I was betting on some version of "stop bothering me", but instead it was a nice note saying that she is still toying with the idea but is unsure, and has also realized her free time is limited by school. When I dropped her off near her dorm after our M&G I gave her a good kiss; in my last note I had mentioned the idea that maybe that was too soon or too public for her; she also agreed that maybe it was a factor. I will definitely have to bring this baby along slowly and gently. I've responded with an understanding note and a few suggestions to help ease her mind. For now I'll try to keep her engaged and see if I can ease her into the fold.

I've sent out quite a few intro letters this week. The most promising is a 29 year old Cuban spice (7/8/8/ who's new to the bowl. We had a nice M&G and maybe I could have closed the deal right then, but I was pressed for time. A friend introduced her to the idea of a SD; and she has already said she is open to the FC, but we haven't talked sugar yet. She showed me a picture of her and her friend, who is an absolute knockout. The friend has a married SD, and I suspect she's commanding a significant allowance. If so that may have created some expectation in my little Cubana's mind that I'm not going to meet, so we'll see how it plays out. I plan on taking her to dinner this week and hopefully bringing her back to the house.

I have had a few other responses to my into letter that my turn into Pot's, but I won't report on them until we are at M&G stage. Work is slow for me right now so I have a lot of time on my hands, and I have been spending surprisingly little, so I plan on adding one more and then seeing how often I am able to see them all. I'm having a lot of fun, even when I don't get laid, what a country!

[Walruscl]

Is this is a situation that you can actually explain away?

Admit nothing!

Deny everything!

And make counter accusations!

Actually yes. Almost every place you see HPV discussed, they mention the fact that HPV can take a really long time to show up on a screening test. Years and years. So they always stress that an HPV-positive test it's not a sign of infidelity. About the only case where you'd be exposed is if both you and your wife had no prior sex partners when you were married. Otherwise, either one of you could have picked it up before marriage, and it only showed up until much later.

[SubCmdr]

BV and yeast aren't the only concerns. If you wife goes for annual pap smears (and she should), you also need worry about HPV giving things away. If her pap comes back pos from one of the cancer causing HPV variants, then you might have some explaining to do.

Is this is a situation that you can actually explain away?

Admit nothing!

Deny everything!

And make counter accusations!

[BikeRider]

I have a question for the brotherhood.

Due to my recent scare with my wife's cootchie last week. And I have been told by a friend that got caught having an affair. Where he fucked his mistress bareback and then fucked his wife later. And the wife caught a bad itch. It was not an STD it was bad PH or bacterial.

I have been told some women just are susceptible to catching stuff.

So my question is. Is there a way to clean up after being with you baby real good to make sure you do not transfer anything? Alcohol or peroxide maybe?

Maybe there is some kind of medical soap that would do the trick?

Revvo.

An easier treatment is to just jack-off in the shower with soap. You have to clean when hard to ensure best coverage. Give Revvo junior a good scrub in the shower, and you should be fine for BV.

BV and yeast aren't the only concerns. If you wife goes for annual pap smears (and she should), you also need worry about HPV giving things away. If her pap comes back pos from one of the cancer causing HPV variants, then you might have some explaining to do.