"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[John Draven]

I read the forum and there are two sites being reference. I am ready to plunge into the SD / SB world. But I want to start with a site that has ample SB in the Michigan area. Especially, near the Ann Arbor. Is there one site better than the other for this location? I plan on doing a trial first. I plan on using pre-purchase credit card. Will that work? Just want to be low key as possible. Thanks.


Thanks.

J Draven

[BigTigger]

What is the difference between 100 used condoms and 100 used tires. One is a Goodyear and one is a GreatYear! Revvo, I think that was a great week. Thanks for sharing.

BT

[Dsprdo]

I had three M&G's this week, with results that ran the gamut.

POT1 for the week was 29, white, and just getting out of a divorce. I sent her my intro letter that mentions $ per visit and she seemed eager to meet. From our email / text conversations I learned (and believed) that she was on her initial foray into the sugar world. We had originally planned on Sunday afternoon, but when I texted that morning, silence. I wrote her off as a flake, and decided to move on. On Monday I got an message from her with effuse apologies and asking to reschedule for that night. I quickly agreed and set a time for drinks and appetizers at my usual spot. Upon arrival it was clear that her pictures were from a while back. She was very nice, a little nervous, but we had a good conversation. She told me that she had recently lost 50 pounds and was still working out. She looked okay in clothes, but still a little heavier than I care for. She seemed nervous but willing to move to the next step if I wanted. I have decided to be more discriminating in my hunt, so end the end I gave her a polite hug goodnight and decided to move on.

POT2 was the one I mentioned in my last report as potential 10/10. I eagerly followed up with her and we set lunch for Wednesday afternoon. She is also white and 29, 5 feet tall and maybe 100 lbs. I met her at a restaurant near her place and we sat and chatted for about over an hour, with good connection and lots of encouraging signs. Near the end of lunch we talked briefly about the details of the arrangement, which I had already put forth as $ per meet in the intro letter. She seemed fine with that and very much a newbie. As we left I was ready to suggest a second meeting and delicately bring up a trip to the FC when she invited me over to watch a movie at her place. Of course! We got back to her small apartment and put Netflix on. I suffered through a horror flic (not my genre) in the hope of moving it on. As the movie progressed we gradually cuddled closer on the couch. When it was over, a make out session ensued that eventually moved to her bedroom. Later, we went out for wine and tapa's and sat for two hours. When I drove her home, I invited myself in for another session. All in all I spent 8-9 hours with her and gave her the agreed upon $. (I spent another $ on wine and food but consider that money well spent. A perfect day. We agreed to meet again on Saturday, but she canceled. She has continued to text, and asked to reschedule for Monday. My take on this whole experience is that she is new to the bowl, but not brand-new! I suspect another SD is in the picture, from the cancellation and a few slips she made during our conversation (she is a chatterbox!). I am going to ignore that suspicion and be happy with it while it lasts.

POT3 was the dream SB. A 19 year old white girl, full time student, a job, transportation, and her own apartment. She is 5' and definitely 100 pounds max. 10/9/9. She is brand new on SA and when I asked if she had had a SD before, she said she was completely new to this and didn't know what to expect. I set the M&G for as soon as she was available. When we met she was cheery, articulate, and so impossibly young and sexy. When she walked up I sensed some disappointment / reservation as reality set in (me 52 and a few extra pounds). We had a great dinner and chatted about a lot of topics. I gently questioned her about things she likes and pointed out chances for us to do some of them (that she can't afford on her own) together. After I paid the check ad began to walk her to her car, I asked if she thought she might be interested in an arrangement. She said this was all new and she wasn't sure how she felt about it. I was understanding and suggested maybe we should just meet again for dinner soon to allow her to get more comfortable. She continued to obviously try to let me down easily, so I gave her a hug and asked her to think about it and keep in touch. I think that there is almost zero chance that I will see her again, but tomorrow I will text her with thanks for meeting and later in the week I will suggest another dinner. Even though I probably will have to chalk this one up as a loss, just the fact that I was in the game is exhilarating!

One more POT scheduled for Monday night. She is 32, another one brand new to the bowl, and says she doesn't really need the money, but is tired of dating guys that can't even pay there own way. She seems embarrassed by being on the site, so I will take it slow with her. I will report as things develop (or don't).

All in all, one quality baby in the fold out of three opportunities seems like a pretty good week.

[Revvo]

So this report will be a little shorter. Only one real POT to mention. Plus I am going to only report on babies with activity. So I am enjoying my new regimen of relaxing into my three favorites and exploring my adventures with them only. I had two POTs last week that contacted me. And they both turned out to be flakes crazy or probably a little of both. Believe me there was little sadness when they evaporated and eliminated themselves from my very busy attention. Once again my membership on SDforme has expired and I only have the limited ability to look or to respond to full members. I have not even been on since last week. But hey it was the weekend so I took a peek. And low and behold there was a cute little MILF to check out.

REVVO_POT3: So she is 37 YO White divorced little southern MILF. She is 5'2" firm body, really nice rack, blond, very talkative and seems quite sincere. I will call her an amateur but she has met men on there a couple of times. She tells me she is looking for a single SD and is really not about the money. I like what I hear already. She seems to really know what she wants and is educated, but she is down on her luck and went through a serious illness lost her job and is trying to get back on her feet. I am giving her a 8/9/8? For now. She is really into working out and health, nice muscle tone about 120 lbs I would say. I am not putting a lot of eggs in this basket. But I am an eternal optimist. So we shall see. She is a good communicator and she is very passionate and affectionate. These are things that I like and pre-qualify for. She is ready to meet. So I am stealing a couple of hours tomorrow to do a M&G. She lives in another city that I travel to for business often. And I would like to have a regular "shot of ass" in this city waiting for me when I go there. So she is coming to me. So I will give her gas money tomorrow. She has not brought up money or wanting money or any other crass bullshit that some of these GPS babies try. We shall see after tomorrow.

REVVO_SB2: I met with my little Brazilian baby and she very was good to go this Friday. We met and had brunch first. She is a bartender so works late some nights. Got her fed. But no sugar and no gifts. Other than me LOL. She is so pleasant and fun and funny. Full of life. Like I have said before she is very sexy and very cute. But not a perfect head. I give her a 7/9/10/10. When we went to the restaurant she was wearing this little short skirt and a very small top. Believe me she is showing off the goods. It is interesting to see all of the people men and women alike watching her when she comes bouncing in. I am always amazed. Damn she looked good. It was not the classic beauty. It was the exotic looks, the sex appeal, the totally unaffected attitude. Wow that is some powerful stuff. We get back to her cute little gated apartment. And things just keep getting better. We fuck and suck and fuck and suck. Three hours and three nutts later and I am drained. She came so hard and it was absolutely beautiful. We will be seeing each other again soon.

REVVO_SB6: So I saw my little girl next door twice last week. At my insistence since we are both busy and we usually only meet once a week. But she is having some money problems. And I want to help her. I mean she is having serious problems. And she still does not ask me for money. And I have offered to help. This my friends is a quality woman. We met and talked and had a great little fuck dogie style. She is very very tight and she gets hurt easily. But she is a very enthusiastic little lover though. In fact I just let her do the thrusting and she works my cock with her perfect little ass and I don't have to do anything but slap that ass until it is red. I can feel her pussy grabbing onto my cock as she works it. She comes hard and often. On our second date I did her missionary style and she came really hard. I love love love orgasmic women. When we got done my balls were soaking wet. And I had put a pillow under her little ass to prop it up. Needless to say the pillow was quite wet also. We talked a lot. Pillow talk with her is great. We are getting quite close. I must say I really like this chick and of the three great fucks she comes in third in fuck skills. She is just less experienced and more shy. But she is learning. But as a quality woman with good attitude she is first. I call her a woman she is only 24YO White. 5'2" she is currtently at 9/8/9/7 for now. We are scheduled for Thursday of next week.

REVVO_SB7: I met with my little Venezuelan on Thursday and really had a great time. We went out to a little place close by that is not known by many people and rented a jetski. We had a blast. Then retired to her apartment for some good luvin. It was awesome as ever. She fucks so good. In fact she is the best fuck I have ever had. Every time feels like it is our first. Cumming repeatedly and cumming hard. It is impressive. She just purrs to me afterward. Ohh baby you make me cum so hard. She is literally shaking forever after we are done. It is amazing. I love seeing her Cum and I cum harder longer with her than any of the others. We are scheduled for Tuesday of next week. My week is filling up quick. LOL

So that is my report for now. I will say it again. I am so damn lucky. I feel it and I appreciate it. The gratitude is so important. And I let my babies know it. And they appreciate my feedback. Lets hear from some of the other brothers out there. How about all of these new brothers and lurkers. Come on out of the shadows and join us. This is fucking awesome. I can also tell you that journaling your exploits helps sharpen your game and better understand and focus your efforts. Try it.

Lets be careful out there.

REVVO

[Member #5570]

JD,

Thanks for also sharing your experience on this health issue.

LOL, yeah one of these HYMs will get it good once I am better and ready for the FC.

My Italian preggo HYM, who just had a c-sect about a week ago wanted to see me. Said the doc told her to have nothing in the puss for 5 weeks but she told me she could 'do other things', like up the ass. I told her to healed up and we'll go at it in both holes. Besides, I am in no mood to be fucking right about now. I look forward to seeing her again.

Smoke,

[John Draven]

Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL

I just want to let you both know I been thru this too. About a year ago, I woke up one morning to go to work and felt a ache on my left testicle. It was bad enough that I had to skip work and go see my doctor. Felt like someone kicked me in the nuts. Go in the doctors office and thought. I might have caught something. I always use the cover. Then he had me get an X-ray. He gave me some med, antibiotics. Asked me have I been doing some strenuous physical activities and my sex life style. Told him the taht that I been having more sex than normal recently and that I started running. Told me that the running and increase sexual activity is the cause since I had my boys bouncing around in my boxer. Told me to go slow on the running and still continue with the sex. Just no rough stuff like have my balls sucked on. Also get plenty of water. I was actually bettter after two days, but finish the meds anyway. He ha me get an ultra sound just in case. No issue. Fast forward to current day, I run about 5-7 miles, drink plenty of fluid, and slim & fit. Result is a lean, mean, sex machine that can keep up with the young ladies.

Hope you get better and back in action soon. Six weeks is rough! I feel bad for the SB that is going to take that load. LOL!

J. Draven

[Happy Lover]

Thanks HL.

That's what I am taking now, Cipro. Damn. 6 weeks? The thought of not having pussies for 6 weeks is damn depressing. But I'll take up your advice and drink plenty of H2O.

Smoke

Hi Smoke,

Not just h20, but distilled h20. I bought some gallon jugs from the local supermarket. And nobody said anything about no pussy for six weeks. I had pain, but no performance issues. Pain gone, game on. The only way I'm foregoing sex for 6 weeks is if I'm hospitalized. Not even then, maybe coma. LOL.

HL

[Member #5570]

Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL

Thanks HL.

That's what I am taking now, Cipro. Damn. 6 weeks? The thought of not having pussies for 6 weeks is damn depressing. But I'll take up your advice and drink plenty of H2O.

Smoke

[Revvo]

After reading this I broke up with my "little princess". I have been less than thrilled with her bedroom performances. This led to a very frank discussion about what is expected from her, but also what I will need to do to get her there physically. Nothing to do with sugar, in fact I cut that in half. But everything to do with guiding a young and very inexperienced girl in what it takes to please her man. The bottom line is, that there is a bottom line in these relationships. Thanks Revvo for the push.

Brother you gave me the push first. LOL. Funny thing I never really missed my little Russian Popscicle first because she was as cold as ice, but also because I was pursuing a quality experience. And that pusuit was leading me into a different direction. And once I let go of looks as the primary driver the experiences have gotten so much better.

Don't get me wrong I still pursue beautiful women. I just don't make it the primary factor. And now I really consider myself lucky. I can say the past few weeks with my little trio. Has been the absolute most amazing sex of my life. And getting better. Before it was not as fun as it is now.

Good luck HW.

Revvo

[BigTigger]

This is the girl's first trip to town or possibly passive aggressive behavior. I think we deal with this by clicking on without saying a word. Engaging her leads to drama and drama leads to high blood pressure.

So true. She never replied and I moved on. Right now, I have two who take care of me very good and the sugar is reasonable. Both are young and eager to please and keep me happy. Both have had less than 5 sex partners and I am loving life.

BT

[Golfcart]

I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg

This is the girl's first trip to town or possibly passive aggressive behavior. I think we deal with this by clicking on without saying a word. Engaging her leads to drama and drama leads to high blood pressure.

[HollywoodGuy]

I hate that brother Tigg. You know what? Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field. Great job pounding her real good. Awesome to give her that good grudge fuck and to make her squeal. Thing is they like that. The real lesson is when she calls you wanting to meet. And then you say real nice and polite "sweetheart I would love to meet you and get together but, I really like oral, and I really like to have fun and be adventurous, and you are just not into that. So I am moving on to someone else. But if you want to try some things?" Then see what she says. She may come around once she sees that she is not in the drivers seat.

I had a similar experience. Maybe the most beautiful baby I ever fucked. Was Russian and a real working model. She actually got paid for some of her work. She was a good solid 10/9/6/5. You looked at her she was like an angel. And she had the most beautiful pussy I have ever seen in my life. You could put a picture of that pussy on a public billboard and no one would complain it was so exquisite. Then you talked to her and things started going down hill. Very negative and not up for anything. I was only paying her 200 and could have fucked her anytime I wanted. But she would not kiss, she was terrible in bed. Not very orgasmic. Would not even go for a second nutt. Let alone a third. She really confirmed the Russian stereotype of being cold. God knows what happened to her in her childhood. I thought maybe I can be patient and train her. But Hollywood was right on this. Why waste my money and time, and sanity. Trying to fix this poor girl. I honestly felt sorry for her. You looked at her beautiful face and you could see sadness even when she smiled. Have you ever seen a person that when the laughed the corners of their mouth were turned down? She did. I dropped her after three visits.

What a waste of the first class pussy. Somebody really ruined that girl.

Revvo

After reading this I broke up with my "little princess". I have been less than thrilled with her bedroom performances. This led to a very frank discussion about what is expected from her, but also what I will need to do to get her there physically. Nothing to do with sugar, in fact I cut that in half. But everything to do with guiding a young and very inexperienced girl in what it takes to please her man. The bottom line is, that there is a bottom line in these relationships. Thanks Revvo for the push.

[Happy Lover]

Sad day in my bowl world.

My adventure with the 18YR ATF is done!

We scheduled for a FC date on Tuesday, then Monday I was txting her to make sure things are still good for the FC date. After an afternoon of silence, she finally responded saying she couldn't see me any longer. She apologize and thanks me for all that I've done for her. The reason is she found a man that 'cares about her and want to make a life with her'. It's funny, because on Saturday we're still sexting and talking about naughty things we going to do and then on Monday she found a new man. Amazing how quickly life changes with these young girls.

Anyway, I wish her well and kindly reminded her that if things didn't work out with her new BF, she knows where to find me. Well, it was a very brief affair but it was damn great when it lasted. This was the reason I kept saying fuck them good and fuck them hard like it's the last time. LOL.

Well, time to move on. Working on a few POTs, mostly HYMs. Anticipating to have some POF next week in the FC.

Sidenote: As I am sitting here typing this, I am recovering from a testes infection (not fun). I am not sure if this is a result of my participation in the bowl world, but brothers be careful out there and keep the hat on.

Hi Smokarz,

I can commiserate. Just after a very busy time with escorts earlier this year I started to have a very painful ache in my balls and the head of my dick. (I'm not sure if the two events are related) My Urologist diagnosed me with prostatitis and put me on pain meds and cipro for 6 weeks. 6 weeks! I started with the regiment and the pain was still there. After doing some reading, I started drinking distilled water. The pain subsided the next day and I quit taking the pain meds all together. I finished the antibiotic regiment and have had no issues since. The rational is that it is hard for drugs to reach the tissue of the prostate and testes as much of it has been filtered out of your system by then. Drinking distilled water with no nutrients in it, helps the body absorb the antibiotic as it's not competing with anything else. Sounded far fetched, but I was desperate. Worked for me.

Take care,

HL

[HollywoodGuy]

I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg

Is there any reason to even reply to her next txt? I only state this for the new guys. I don't negotiate.

[BigTigger]

Either show up to fuck and suck or don't get on the fucking field.

I love this line. I need to remember that.

Well the POT I was supposed to meet tomorrow for dinner is off. I asked her to wear a nice fitting skirt or dress for the date. It's our first date. She says she will, but expects an amazing gift. I was like "gift". This is new to me, POT expecting a gift on the first date. I told her I'd pay for the meal and gas. I told her that I wasn't expecting to go to the hotel on the first date. Now if we decide to extend the date, then my gift will change accordingly. She replied, I didn't expect to go to the hotel on the first date "LOL". So she wants to send me a list of gifts that she like so I can have something to pick from for the first date. I said, send away, but reminded her that I know how to take care of women and she doesn't need to tell me to bring an amazing gift.

So I get the email and there are 3 items on it all purses. #1 $475 #2 $675 #3 $1780. Let me get this straight, she wants an "amazing" gift off this list. JUST FOR SHOWING UP!

So I sent her an email stating some facts about what it takes to get these kinds of gifts and recommended we cancel our date.

Wow. For the first date. Really?

Plus she wanted $1300 a month and cannot host. Really?

We'll see what her response is. She's very new and obviously has her head in the clouds when it comes to what she should expect. Especially since she's probably a 7. 8 in the face and 8 body.

BigTigg