"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[WoodSlinger]

Dude tell us what happened. How did the M&G go? Was she nice looking in person? How much on the sugar?

How about some tips on your ad?

Revvo

I had to reschedule our M & G, she seemed ok with it at the time. Now its no response to text messages or emails. Let this be a lesson learned, that part of the hunt is to remember your ABC's.

ALWAYS BE CLOSING! If you don't close the deal with them first, someone else will.

[KrustyDawg7]

Hey Dawg! You have what is known in the biz as ____ an SO or wife. We all (mostly) have them now or have had them before. Guess why we are her in the Sugar Bowl. LOL That was obviously a rhetorical question.

A couple of important points here :

1) Pay as you go so your damage is limited.

Most of us who have been here long enough have lost money by being stiffed, blown off, or scammed. My recent loss amounted to $$.5, not insubstantial but one I can easily blow off as a lesson well learned (again). If you go on the SA Blog all of the SBs there seem to disdain PTP (Pay To Play ). The girls say they feel like hookers by getting cash in the pocketbook (well?) Some of you smoother guys do re loadable Debit Cards or other sweet and sensitive gifts, etc. I have always slipped cash in their Jeans pocket or purse and have never had anyone harrumph about being degraded.

2) Expect performance.

Don't ever forget you are the employer and she is not doing you a favor, she is working for you at the moment. Many of us, myself included, try to make this game more of an emotional experience because it does make it more fun and rewarding. An absolute MUST is that you get the sexual reward that we are seeking. If you aren't making it clear to her what your expectation is then the slight is on you, not her. She will get away with what she can. A couple of examples from my play book : My ATF #3, a 10 across the board told me after I arrived one day that she was on her period and wasn't in the mood for sex. Well, I wasn't in the mood for paying but since I liked her so much I let it slide but made it clear that I wasn't happy and would not be coming when she wasn't in the mood. The next visit she dragged me back to the BR and gave me a rousing BBBJ. We then went to dinner and came back for the piece de resistance and I banged her brains out to rousing screams and groans. To boot she offered another free visit to make up for the loss. Next time she was on her period we didn't miss a beat. Now I know some of you are grossed out by dipping in the pool during that time of the month, but I actually love it and it turns me on. Plus things are all sloppy wet and you slip into all holes easily. A second example involved Bare Back. My SB #2 at the moment insisted on covered and I did not want that with her. She said "no sex" and I said no sugar. Bareback happened. So speak up for yourself.

3) Set a reasonable limit and stick to it.

GPS is everywhere. Hey! IF you pay me $5000 I will blow you LOL. Hollywood seems to have achieved the best CPO of anyone. Big Tigg cums in head to head. When the little head is in the forefront we do things that we regret later. Work it all out beforehand.

4) Get it straight where a SB fits into your life.

Leave the SO and wife mentality at home. Never forget (I do all the time) This is a business for most of these girls. They don't love us, they love our Money and the lifestyle we afford them.

Thanks, Fred for the excellent post and some sound advice. Much appreciated. I'll try not to make the same mistakes in the future, but probably will. LOL

[Member #5570]

Great report! Hi-Five. Out of curiosity how much do you plan to give her per month?

I set this up in a way that I am not committed to an X amount per week or month. I got her the Visa card so that when she needs something, she ask me and I'll load it up for her. From our talks so far, her needs seem modest but you know how quickly that can change. So, I am anticipating somewhere between 400-600 a month. If it turns out to me more than that, I'll have to re-assess the arrangement and make need to have a talk with her. The reason for the low budget is because I have to pay for the cab each time. 60, and the room which is another 60. That is 120 per FC date just for expenses.

So, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[HappyHunter44]

And lucky I was. I almost lost this one.

This is the pic she sent me before she heads out to come she me. Sweet girl.

I enjoyed this so much, darn, I feel I owe you a Visa card. Congrats, and hope it continues for you.

[BigTigger]

And lucky I was. I almost lost this one.

So, we were scheduled for a noon date and she txt me early in the morning, about 8AM, to asked if we are still on schedule. I said yes, and that I look forward to seeing her today. She then send me another txt asking specifically what's going to happened. As usual, I said we'll have a drink, talk, and if we click then we might have some fun together. She then asked me what kind of fun and I replied that we're not exactly meeting for afternoon tea to talk world events. She then said, for that kind of fun I should bring cash with me. A little surprised, since we've already talked about our arrangement previously. I asked her why. She then said she talked to her friend and that it's going to cost me 50 for BJ and 100 for sex. At this point, I am pissed and mad as hell and thinking to myself she's a pro. I almost sent her a txt and told her to go fuck herself and thanks for wasting my time since the past 3 days we've been talking in details my expectations and what the plan was. But thinking at that sweet young pussy, I calmed myself and tried to reel her back in.

I told her that I was not looking for an escort nor a working girl, and that she should stop talking that way which makes her sound like a cheap working girl. I said she was way too beautiful and smart for that, and she's way better than what she's talking about. After a few minutes of silence, she txt back apologizing repeatedly and claim that she was confused and not sure what she was thinking. Then I decided to hang the carrot out there and told her I already bought her a Visa card and I'll give it to her today (I did buy the card of course) , but I did not load any money on it her because I need her to activate it and register it in her name first. Then she txt back with more apologies and beg me not to get mad at me and sure that sounds like a good idea. At this point, I feel like I got her back in the game and I got the situation under controlled. And just to sealed it and make sure she doesn't get out of line again, I told her not to be ever talk with me like that again and that I will never pay her for sex (right?) , but I will be her friend and benefactor. I then told her "The only thing I am bringing today is the Visa card. 40 for your taxi fares, and my dick.". She replied with "LOL. OK". Great gal. What happens after that is just freaking awesome.

So the time came, I txt her to let her know that I was on the way and she should call a cab to pick her up. I arrive at the motel, checked in, and a few minutes later she showed up in the cab. I went out to pay the cab, we made our quick greetings with a light hug and sent upstairs. She was wearing this white / blue summer dress that looks gorgeous on her and really reveal her petite little figure. She's a little under 5'2 and 105 (Hollywood, does this fit your profile? Haha).

Once in the room, we sit on edge of the bed, have our drinks and talk about stuff for about 15-20 min. I usually like to talk for a little while to get the baby to ease in a bit on the first date, especially since our first meeting was at the FC. I wanted her to feel me out a little before I jump all over her. Now before our date, she took some pics of her in a sexy black / red lingerie so I asked her to bring it with me. So after our talk, I asked her if she brought the outfit and if I can see it. I expected her to grab her purse and run into the restroom to change, but instead, she stood up, drop her dress to the floor to reveal this sexy petite gal in a sexy mini red and black lingerie. At this point, I am thinking it's time to fuck so I pulled her into me we started kissing and before you know it, we we're all over each other deep kissing, ass groping, ear licking, tities sucking. I then guided her to my boxer and soon she has my hard cock in her mouth. Now her oral skills are not the best, but it's quite decent given her age (she have only one boyfriend before this). About 10 or so minute, I directed her to the bed as I undressed, jump on bed a started her and work my way down to her neck, tities, tummy, and ultimately to her cookie. As I ate and finger on that nice and tight kitty, her hip was dancing, head shaking, eyes half closed and staring at the ceiling, face all red, hands banging and scracthing the bed headbaord and god she was making so much noise. This girl is a screamer and her body is extremely sensitive. I think she was built for sex.

When I have just one finger in her, I think to myself god damn I am not going to last long with a pussy this tight. So after eating her a little while, I put on the cover and prepare for a dive. As I slid into her, I almost exploded. I kid you not gents, that kitty was so fucking tight I haven't felt one like it since my school days. As I was inside her, I was too afraid to start pumping because I was going to burst so I sucked on her tits and let my mind wondering in thoughts (crazy shit like project deadlines, clouds, plans, ducks, whatever to take my mind away from this young pussy I was fucking). For after a minute or two of being inside her, I then started to fuck that pussy real good and hard, and when I was about to cum I pulled out and went down to eat her for a few minutes and come back up and pump her pussy even harder as she screams louder and her hips moving more. Her screams got me a little concern and in the back of my mind, I was thinking what if someone come knock on the door? Would I have to stop fucking and go open it and explain what the fuck was going on in the room? But fornuately, nothing like that happens. So I keep fucking away, and eating her, and fuck her some more in mish. I then told her to turn over so I could do her K9, and it litterally surprised as to what happened next. As she tried to get up to turn over and get into position, she just fell and sit flat on her ass. She was shaking and out of breath, so seeing that he was a little exhausted and just sat her sit there for a few minutes to catch her breath and recover as I lightly kiss and caress her back and next. This made me feel like a stud, and no fellows I am no where near being a fuck stallion but damn this girl really craves sex. I she was enjoying it probably more than I was. So after a few minutes of rest, I mounted her from behind and just fuck away, pulling her hair and slapping that ass. Her skin was really light, and with each slap you can see it quickly turning red and I just love seeing that and her reactions told me she probably did too. After doing her K9 for a little longer, I pulled off the cover, stood up on the bed and told her to finish me in her mouth which she happily obliged. As I was to burst I asked her to swallow it, and which just one big gulp she drained everything. At this point, it's time for me to collapse. I just fucked an 18yr pussy for about 30 minutes. Now I am the kind of guys that usually for 10min most of the times, so this was fucking crazy and I was out of breath at the end.

Aftewards, we rested for a little while on the bed, talk about some more stuff, got dressed and I was on my way back to work. As you guess it gents, this is now my ATF undisputedly and I've never claimed any baby that I've seen to be an ATF, but this one really is special. I'll be seeing her again later this week.

This is the pic she sent me before she heads out to come she me. Sweet girl.

Great report! Hi-Five. Out of curiosity how much do you plan to give her per month?

[Walruscl]

Aftewards, we rested for a little while on the bed, talk about some more stuff, got dressed and I was on my way back to work. As you guess it gents, this is now my ATF undisputedly and I've never claimed any baby that I've seen to be an ATF, but this one really is special. I'll be seeing her again later this week.

This is the pic she sent me before she heads out to come she me. Sweet girl.

I guess I'm not the luckiest guy on earth, apparently I have good company.

Minus the hardline money negotiation, this sounds so much like the sessions with my SB it's spooky.

I know that there's a lot of reasons to avoid the under-21 category, but if you are lucky enough to come across the rare gem like this, it's just a mind-bending experience. Personally I can't believe how lucky I was to hit gold the first time around.

[Member #5570]

She looks nice. Good luck

And lucky I was. I almost lost this one.

So, we were scheduled for a noon date and she txt me early in the morning, about 8AM, to asked if we are still on schedule. I said yes, and that I look forward to seeing her today. She then send me another txt asking specifically what's going to happened. As usual, I said we'll have a drink, talk, and if we click then we might have some fun together. She then asked me what kind of fun and I replied that we're not exactly meeting for afternoon tea to talk world events. She then said, for that kind of fun I should bring cash with me. A little surprised, since we've already talked about our arrangement previously. I asked her why. She then said she talked to her friend and that it's going to cost me 50 for BJ and 100 for sex. At this point, I am pissed and mad as hell and thinking to myself she's a pro. I almost sent her a txt and told her to go fuck herself and thanks for wasting my time since the past 3 days we've been talking in details my expectations and what the plan was. But thinking at that sweet young pussy, I calmed myself and tried to reel her back in.

I told her that I was not looking for an escort nor a working girl, and that she should stop talking that way which makes her sound like a cheap working girl. I said she was way too beautiful and smart for that, and she's way better than what she's talking about. After a few minutes of silence, she txt back apologizing repeatedly and claim that she was confused and not sure what she was thinking. Then I decided to hang the carrot out there and told her I already bought her a Visa card and I'll give it to her today (I did buy the card of course) , but I did not load any money on it her because I need her to activate it and register it in her name first. Then she txt back with more apologies and beg me not to get mad at me and sure that sounds like a good idea. At this point, I feel like I got her back in the game and I got the situation under controlled. And just to sealed it and make sure she doesn't get out of line again, I told her not to be ever talk with me like that again and that I will never pay her for sex (right?) , but I will be her friend and benefactor. I then told her "The only thing I am bringing today is the Visa card. 40 for your taxi fares, and my dick.". She replied with "LOL. OK". Great gal. What happens after that is just freaking awesome.

So the time came, I txt her to let her know that I was on the way and she should call a cab to pick her up. I arrive at the motel, checked in, and a few minutes later she showed up in the cab. I went out to pay the cab, we made our quick greetings with a light hug and sent upstairs. She was wearing this white / blue summer dress that looks gorgeous on her and really reveal her petite little figure. She's a little under 5'2 and 105 (Hollywood, does this fit your profile? Haha).

Once in the room, we sit on edge of the bed, have our drinks and talk about stuff for about 15-20 min. I usually like to talk for a little while to get the baby to ease in a bit on the first date, especially since our first meeting was at the FC. I wanted her to feel me out a little before I jump all over her. Now before our date, she took some pics of her in a sexy black / red lingerie so I asked her to bring it with me. So after our talk, I asked her if she brought the outfit and if I can see it. I expected her to grab her purse and run into the restroom to change, but instead, she stood up, drop her dress to the floor to reveal this sexy petite gal in a sexy mini red and black lingerie. At this point, I am thinking it's time to fuck so I pulled her into me we started kissing and before you know it, we we're all over each other deep kissing, ass groping, ear licking, tities sucking. I then guided her to my boxer and soon she has my hard cock in her mouth. Now her oral skills are not the best, but it's quite decent given her age (she have only one boyfriend before this). About 10 or so minute, I directed her to the bed as I undressed, jump on bed a started her and work my way down to her neck, tities, tummy, and ultimately to her cookie. As I ate and finger on that nice and tight kitty, her hip was dancing, head shaking, eyes half closed and staring at the ceiling, face all red, hands banging and scracthing the bed headbaord and god she was making so much noise. This girl is a screamer and her body is extremely sensitive. I think she was built for sex.

When I have just one finger in her, I think to myself god damn I am not going to last long with a pussy this tight. So after eating her a little while, I put on the cover and prepare for a dive. As I slid into her, I almost exploded. I kid you not gents, that kitty was so fucking tight I haven't felt one like it since my school days. As I was inside her, I was too afraid to start pumping because I was going to burst so I sucked on her tits and let my mind wondering in thoughts (crazy shit like project deadlines, clouds, plans, ducks, whatever to take my mind away from this young pussy I was fucking). For after a minute or two of being inside her, I then started to fuck that pussy real good and hard, and when I was about to cum I pulled out and went down to eat her for a few minutes and come back up and pump her pussy even harder as she screams louder and her hips moving more. Her screams got me a little concern and in the back of my mind, I was thinking what if someone come knock on the door? Would I have to stop fucking and go open it and explain what the fuck was going on in the room? But fornuately, nothing like that happens. So I keep fucking away, and eating her, and fuck her some more in mish. I then told her to turn over so I could do her K9, and it litterally surprised as to what happened next. As she tried to get up to turn over and get into position, she just fell and sit flat on her ass. She was shaking and out of breath, so seeing that he was a little exhausted and just sat her sit there for a few minutes to catch her breath and recover as I lightly kiss and caress her back and next. This made me feel like a stud, and no fellows I am no where near being a fuck stallion but damn this girl really craves sex. I she was enjoying it probably more than I was. So after a few minutes of rest, I mounted her from behind and just fuck away, pulling her hair and slapping that ass. Her skin was really light, and with each slap you can see it quickly turning red and I just love seeing that and her reactions told me she probably did too. After doing her K9 for a little longer, I pulled off the cover, stood up on the bed and told her to finish me in her mouth which she happily obliged. As I was to burst I asked her to swallow it, and which just one big gulp she drained everything. At this point, it's time for me to collapse. I just fucked an 18yr pussy for about 30 minutes. Now I am the kind of guys that usually for 10min most of the times, so this was fucking crazy and I was out of breath at the end.

Aftewards, we rested for a little while on the bed, talk about some more stuff, got dressed and I was on my way back to work. As you guess it gents, this is now my ATF undisputedly and I've never claimed any baby that I've seen to be an ATF, but this one really is special. I'll be seeing her again later this week.

This is the pic she sent me before she heads out to come she me. Sweet girl.

[Graham1]

Thanks for the welcome back Scottie! It's totally stupid and embarrassing. My user name on here was a derivative of my play email address which we communicated with. She simply dug far enough in Google to find my posts here. When I met her I was in my "everything up front" phase in initial meetings. I would pretty much lay out all that I had done. I kind of used it as a litmus test to see if a potential SB could handle it. She could and was open enough to tell me she already pretty much knew everything from my posts on here. She's amazingly beautiful and very sharp and intelligent. It turned out to be a pretty interesting relationship which I believe has just recently faded. I'll cover her when I post my recent and current exploits. Bottom line here is "Be careful in your naming practices!"

I also ditched my previous handle as I stupidly connected too many dots. So keep your email and handle totally separate boy scouts. Makes for less pain. So I need a little while to make senior status again. Cover your tracks. More later guys

[F Scott]

This one quoted me only $$$$$$$ a visit. Such a deal. Or only $$$$$ if we just hung out.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...ile&id=2742116

Hollywood,

I'd hang out with you for far less, and I bet we'd have much more in common LOL! Let me know and I'll jump on the next plane!

LMAO,

Scott

[Walruscl]

So my SB, as I've mentioned before, has a drive that's off the charts. After our movie theater adventure, apparently she was permanently put "in the mood". Despite things being busy for both of us, she was seriously pining to get together. Who am I to say no to that?

So we arrange the usual day and place, and the usual festivities begin. And goddamn she makes me feel like a stud. Too many orgasms to count, and apparently I brought her over the edge in ways she's never experienced. When we weren't breathless, it was a repeated "thank you, thank you, thank you!". My brain *still* can't process the notion of someone thanking me for sex.

So when I try to give sugar (always wrapped with a small gift) , she emphatically turns it down: "Save it. You have no idea how much I needed this today."

Anyone who's follow my journey will know that this is not the first time she's wanted to skip the sugar, and from reading the thread obviously it's not unheard of. I'm not looking to over-optimize CPO or otherwise go on the cheap: she's a worthwhile cause and I'm happy to help her out. But it still takes me aback when she turns away the sugar.

At the risk of repeating myself: what a trip.

[FredMoore]

This one quoted me only $$$$$$$ a visit. Such a deal. Or only $$$$$ if we just hung out.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...ile&id=2742116

Sounds like wife material. She must be married to a man of substance

[F Scott]

This one quoted me only $$$$$$$ a visit. Such a deal. Or only $$$$$ if we just hung out.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...ile&id=2742116

Does she know Elliott Spitzer? Out of curiosity, what did she charge you to respond to your email?

Good heavens,

Scott

[HollywoodGuy]

Hollywood seems to have achieved the best CPO of anyone. Big Tigg cums in head to head. When the little head is in the forefront we do things that we regret later. Work it all out beforehand.

I, m not sure about the CPO. As I am a one and done per session kind of guy. But on a CPV (cost per visit) , maybe. Especially with the live-in arrangement. But even though I do have a $ per visit goal. Extras do go to the regulars when needed. But first timers, or booty call girls, it's a $ a visit. Take it or leave it.

[HollywoodGuy]

POT = POTential Sugar Baby.

GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome. A girl who thinks her pussy is worth more $ than it actually is.

This one quoted me only $$$$$$$ a visit. Such a deal. Or only $$$$$ if we just hung out.

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index...ile&id=2742116

[FredMoore]

Hi all,

All that being said, I have had a nice SB for several months but like so many girls it is one problem after another, and most of them requiring more funds. Meanwhile the sex is infrequent and not very exciting. Now, I am a guy over 50 and unlike some of you younger ones who seem to be on the prowl 24/7, I take life a bit easier and it doesn't take as much to keep me happy, but it really bothers me that a girl will not do the minimum to keep her SD happy. I can see that if this keeps up I'll have to move on which is sad because in other ways she is a great companion. My mistake probably was getting talked into a substantial allowance before I had a clear idea of her sex drive. It seems to me that a lot of the SD / SB relationships fall apart after a while because SB keeps pushing for more but comes up with endless excuses to provide less. Given my somewhat limited experience with a few SB's my advice is to start out on a nominal amount each time you get together, even if it starts out with some civi dates, and avoid the trap of an allowance like a monthly lump sum. It will end up almost like you are married, except luckily you can still walk-Krusty.

Hey Dawg! You have what is known in the biz as ____ an SO or wife. We all (mostly) have them now or have had them before. Guess why we are her in the Sugar Bowl. LOL That was obviously a rhetorical question.

A couple of important points here :

1) Pay as you go so your damage is limited.

Most of us who have been here long enough have lost money by being stiffed, blown off, or scammed. My recent loss amounted to $$.5, not insubstantial but one I can easily blow off as a lesson well learned (again). If you go on the SA Blog all of the SBs there seem to disdain PTP (Pay To Play ). The girls say they feel like hookers by getting cash in the pocketbook (well?) Some of you smoother guys do re loadable Debit Cards or other sweet and sensitive gifts, etc. I have always slipped cash in their Jeans pocket or purse and have never had anyone harrumph about being degraded.

2) Expect performance.

Don't ever forget you are the employer and she is not doing you a favor, she is working for you at the moment. Many of us, myself included, try to make this game more of an emotional experience because it does make it more fun and rewarding. An absolute MUST is that you get the sexual reward that we are seeking. If you aren't making it clear to her what your expectation is then the slight is on you, not her. She will get away with what she can. A couple of examples from my play book : My ATF #3, a 10 across the board told me after I arrived one day that she was on her period and wasn't in the mood for sex. Well, I wasn't in the mood for paying but since I liked her so much I let it slide but made it clear that I wasn't happy and would not be coming when she wasn't in the mood. The next visit she dragged me back to the BR and gave me a rousing BBBJ. We then went to dinner and came back for the piece de resistance and I banged her brains out to rousing screams and groans. To boot she offered another free visit to make up for the loss. Next time she was on her period we didn't miss a beat. Now I know some of you are grossed out by dipping in the pool during that time of the month, but I actually love it and it turns me on. Plus things are all sloppy wet and you slip into all holes easily. A second example involved Bare Back. My SB #2 at the moment insisted on covered and I did not want that with her. She said "no sex" and I said no sugar. Bareback happened. So speak up for yourself.

3) Set a reasonable limit and stick to it.

GPS is everywhere. Hey! IF you pay me $5000 I will blow you LOL. Hollywood seems to have achieved the best CPO of anyone. Big Tigg cums in head to head. When the little head is in the forefront we do things that we regret later. Work it all out beforehand.

4) Get it straight where a SB fits into your life.

Leave the SO and wife mentality at home. Never forget (I do all the time) This is a business for most of these girls. They don't love us, they love our Money and the lifestyle we afford them.