"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FredMoore** · 08-30-13 11:51

"Good night, good night! Parting is such sweet sorrow, that I shall say good night til it be morrow " Ah Shakespeare said it so well did he not?

Well gents, the time has come that I turn off the burner phone, close my SA / SDFM account, put my travel bag away, and ride into the sunset. It is not bittersweet, but only bitter that I give up the lifestyle that I have enjoyed for oh so many years. The reasons are several, but I realize for sure that this lifestyle is not compatible with a healthy relationship with a SO (or any for that matter) , in fact, it is damaging and unfair to her. Some of us get away with the sham for awhile and fool ourselves into thinking that we can play both ends against the middle, but it eventually comes back to bite you in the ass if you are in it long enough. I do value my SO and am going to make the effort to give her the attention that she deserves. There are of course, children, friends, family, finances involved. I am honored to have been in the company of so many cocks-men of note, and would like to think that I and my friend Nando have contributed substantive data to the group. I have been the recipient of multi hundreds of sweet babies' attentions, and spent tens of thousands of hard earned dollars chasing the holy grail, trying to (and succeeding) crawl into HYB's vaginas, hearts, and souls. I think I made a difference to their lives, and certainly to their bank accounts.

I leave with ATF #4 and SB #1 available whenever I would like, and it will be hard to resist occasionally dipping into that pool. I will no longer have the freedom of movement I had before, so any SB meet will be fraught with extreme hazard. I do seem to have a "get home free card ", but only one. Any more indiscretions will unleash the tiger within and life as I once knew it would be over. My ATF #3 last night was Amaaaazing as a parting gift from her, and she did not disappoint. We left on a lovely note.

I will probably lurk around and even contribute words of wisdom and experiences from the past from time to time. I will live vicariously through the brotherhood. You all prosper often and keep me entertained. Perhaps I will write a book, it's been a fascinating journey and I'm sure would be a good read. If I return actively, then my SO and I have called it quits. If I were single like Hollywood, I think I would just live the SD lifestyle and forget IRL relationships. Time will tell.

Peace Brothers, and be safe! Fred and Nando

**F Scott** · 08-30-13 07:22

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

On another matter, I have been idly amusing myself by collecting the most absurd names from scam emails I have been getting, and I just want to share them for the amusement of the clubhouse. I swear on all the panties I have caused to fall to the floor that they are all true; well, at least as sent to me. As I said before, I wish I were this creative.

Yuhas Spradling.

Circle Mcravin (my personal favorite. Being Irish, I think I had a great aunt with this name)

Prashad Duch

Syring Dayan.

Sprenger Paris.

Sprenger Glade

Sprenger Edelbrock (a popular first name, apparently)

Montis Hesseltine

Bulleri Ingegner (I'm not even sure how to pronounce this one)

Crounse Cartagena (runner up for favorite. I may actually reply to her, just so I can add her to my contact list)

Ruggle Beltron (I thought this was a character Vim Diesel played. How far he has fallen. Sad really)

Delawder Martnez

Thibodeaux Bourgoyne.

Durphey Bourgoyne

Riva Bourgoyne.

Wiedeman Bourgoyne (sisters, apparently, or a mother / daughter fuck fest. Either way, I'm all in!)

I'm trying to imagine what foreign country these are all coming from, and what they are using to generate these names.

All these emails came as a result of a single posting on CL, and all of them had virtually the same text, urging me to prove I was real by going to a verification site. I am still getting them months later, but the names are nowhere near as creative as these.

**Revvo** · 08-29-13 21:31

Originally Posted by Diamondman [View Original Post]

Scam scam scam, don't ever go to those verification sites, you will never ever meet the girl. She makes money for every guy she directs to it. STAY away!

Always, try and get them to send you pictures, text them, try and always get them to contact you, so you know they are real!

Thanks guys. It does appear to be a scam. She sent me several pics. I did a pipl search on her name and city and it showed a person there but it was a common name. I did a tineye search and her pics showed up all over the place foreign sites and porn sites and amature self pic sites etc.

I was going to try to get her to text. But even when I tried to reply to her email yahoo mail was warning me not to. So I deleted all emails and pics.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

**Diamondman** · 08-29-13 21:26

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

I fished on Craigslist for a week or two and 99% of the responses I got were trying to direct me to one of those verification sites. I never did it so I could be wrong but I think its a scam. I got pics of the same girl from multiple ads with different names. All of the pics I got were bordering on TGTBT.

Scam scam scam, don't ever go to those verification sites, you will never ever meet the girl. She makes money for every guy she directs to it. STAY away!

Always, try and get them to send you pictures, text them, try and always get them to contact you, so you know they are real!

**Ky Man629** · 08-29-13 21:26

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Hey I got a interesting hit on Craigslist from someone with pretty hot pics. She is asking me to go to a site.

http://nostringsverify.com/sammipage69

To verify myself. Has anyone ever done this before? Is it a scam?

She says it only costs a dollar. And I guess I would have to use my real identity, which is a problem.

Anyone know anything about it?

I do not go to those sites because they always want a Credit Card # which I never give out. You will get a lot of scams on Craigslist but sometimes you find something good.

**Dsprdo** · 08-29-13 21:21

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Hey I got a interesting hit on Craigslist from someone with pretty hot pics. She is asking me to go to a site.

http://nostringsverify.com/sammipage69

To verify myself. Has anyone ever done this before? Is it a scam?

She says it only costs a dollar. And I guess I would have to use my real identity, which is a problem.

Anyone know anything about it?

I fished on Craigslist for a week or two and 99% of the responses I got were trying to direct me to one of those verification sites. I never did it so I could be wrong but I think its a scam. I got pics of the same girl from multiple ads with different names. All of the pics I got were bordering on TGTBT.

**Rphphd** · 08-29-13 21:05

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

Hey I got a interesting hit on Craigslist from someone with pretty hot pics. She is asking me to go to a site.

http://nostringsverify.com/sammipage69

To verify myself. Has anyone ever done this before? Is it a scam?

She says it only costs a dollar. And I guess I would have to use my real identity, which is a problem.

Anyone know anything about it?

Yeah its a scam, they want you to signup for a buck. 3 days then ongoing upgrades and phony emails, replys to you. Same thing happened to me with this chick who says she uses this to verify. Blah. Blah. Blah meanwhile I've had two different sites offering the same deal contact me within the last day since she's gotten ahold of my email.

**Revvo** · 08-29-13 20:57

Hey I got a interesting hit on Craigslist from someone with pretty hot pics. She is asking me to go to a site http://nostringsverify.com/sammipage69

To verify myself. Has anyone ever done this before? Is it a scam?

She says it only costs a dollar. And I guess I would have to use my real identity, which is a problem.

Anyone know anything about it?

**F Scott** · 08-29-13 18:52

Originally Posted by Gogreen [View Original Post]

While this is probably ahead of the game since I haven't made any contributions If anyone has had luck with HYT and HCB that are trustworthy to travel and you're willing to share, I'd be open to bringing them for a getaway. It would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks again!

GoGreen

While I appreciate your constraints in trying to fish in a bucket, I think you may have inadvertently hit upon the solution to your problem. Search in the LA, San Diego and other west coast arenas, and offer these babies a trip to Hawaii! Dude, you have a golden ticket to endless pussy, at least as I see it! You need to configure a scheme where you don't pay in advance for a ticket, but reimburse them once they arrive and surrender the goods, so they don't scam you, but still, this is but a trifle. Only the details remain to be figured out.

I am short on time at the moment, so need to sign off, but I'm sure my other brothers here will have much to say on this subject. From my vantage point, it looks to me like you don't have lemons, but rather a lemonade factory; you just need to figure out how to set it up.

Don't forget to write,

Scott

**Gogreen** · 08-29-13 18:37

Hi Guys,

I'm an aspiring SD in the 50th state. I'm married and 40 and have mostly played in the escort arena to date, but would prefer something non-pro and less transactional. I've been reading your reports trying to capture some of your knowledge and wisdom as I make my first foray into the SB. A big thank you to you all for your contributions. I've still got about 50 pages to go, but it's been a great read. I've made that risk analysis and am getting into the game.

So far I haven't had much luck yet, as I'm pretty picky in wanting younger (less than 35) .7-10's in the looks department and the slim and athletic build. It seems the available talent pool has neither quality or quantity, at least on SA, AF, SDFM, and WYP. I've been in touch with about 5 different POT's but haven't been able to get to M&G yet. A couple seem relatively new to the game and the others seem a bit more experienced. Been exchanging some emails and texts but they always seem to flake right before the M&G. I know SA said UHawaii ranked high with SB's but it's either fluff or I'm not fishing in the ponds.

Additional challenges for me are that I don't get to travel much do to our geographic isolation, warden restrictions, not really having a job conducive to travel and this state being so small that it's hard to be discrete. That being said, I hope I'll have more successes to report in the weeks / months to come.

While this is probably ahead of the game since I haven't made any contributions If anyone has had luck with HYT and HCB that are trustworthy to travel and you're willing to share, I'd be open to bringing them for a getaway. It would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks again!

GoGreen

**F Scott** · 08-29-13 18:34

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

Thanks for sharing, those kind of reports keep me encouraged. I wished my game worked all the time, I would be much richer and more trusting.

BT

I wish my game worked half the time that yours does, my brother! I would be much poorer and more tired, but nonetheless, happy.

If it were easy, they'd be called escorts, right?

Scott

**BigTigger** · 08-29-13 18:18

Thanks for sharing, those kind of reports keep me encouraged. I wished my game worked all the time, I would be much richer and more trusting.

BT

**F Scott** · 08-29-13 16:59

Gentlemen,

In deference to some of you who have experienced this many times before, I am posting to crow about a sweet double header I scored yesterday which has certainly taken some of the sting out of the sad, sad reality that my new ATF is leaving town on the 9th of next month, probably for good.

For some reason, my account on SD4Me is once again allowing me full access to all babies, even though when I log on it tells me I am persona non grata as far as their billing department is concerned. Whatever. I have been blasting emails out within a 50 mile radius of me with astonishing results. Apparently the Sugar Gods have found me in favor again, and I have had several m&gs (not all to my liking, but still) and am currently filling in my dance card for next week with 3 of the ones who made the cut.

But back to yesterday: I met with an adorable, pixie-ish 22 yo AA spinner for coffee on Tuesday and we hit it off wonderfully. I had an AA GF in college who I was insane for, but our friends gave us each such shit about dating outside our race (BTW, aren't we all part of the HUMAN race?) that it was just too difficult to keep it going. Anyway, we met, had an instant rapport, and made plans to meet at a nearby motel the following day. So think Halle Berry, but smaller and with slightly upturned eyes, and you begin to get close. Tiny hips, tiny waist, adorable face, short hair, sweet little boobs, funny, smart, not at all ghetto, and easy to spend time with.

At the motel she turned a little bit shy at first, which was incredibly appealing, but once we had talked a bit and had started kissing, the game was on, and oh, my brothers, she was incredible! Her entire body seemed to be an erogenous zone, and when I settled in to apply my Super Secret Oral Speed Orgasm Technique, I thought she would explode! My ears are still a little flat from being squeezed so hard between her thighs. She also kept up a very soft, quiet narrative of dirty talk that I found extremely erotic, and certainly spurred me on to do more than my best!

Since we met at 9 in the morning, and she had to be on the way to work at 11, we didn't have a huge amount of time, which may have been for the best, because she rode me ragged, and I know she has more ideas in mind for the next time. I felt like a MegaStud, to be honest, and at one point in her quiet talking she was thanking me for fucking her! Don't know about you all, but that's a first for me. We are penciled in for a repeat next week, time and day to be determined, but she is definitely a keeper.

After a mutual shower, we parted and I headed in to the city for my next rendezvous with a super skittish 24 yo baby who I have been pursuing for almost 6 months. We met on SA, had a coffee shortly thereafter, and made plans to have breakfast a few days later. I honestly thought she would vanish because she was so far out of my league in terms of looks, but I proceeded anyway, and we actually had a great time once again. Several meals later, she suggested that we should start "seeing each other" and make things official by spending some "private time" together. Needless to say, I was totally on board, and urged her to find some time in her schedule as I would in mine. After going radio silent, she replied a week or so later that I was coming on way too aggressively, that she now felt she really didn't know me at all, and basically that I should go and fuck myself. Huh?

A month or so later, I got an email from her saying just "hi", and the whole dance began again. To make a long story short, the alternating cycle of "come fuck me"/"go fuck yourself" went on three more times, with me finally just playing along with detached interest more than with any real hopes of ever getting POTF, all the way up until yesterday, when I showed up at her apartment to find her actually inside it, and after a really wonderful hour or so of talking and cuddling on her couch, she suggested we move to her bed. This was an idea I readily agreed to, at which point she literally tore my clothes off and tried to shove my entire body into her pussy. Is this what is meant by being born again? If so, I'm converting!!

Coincidentally, she also proved to be a dirty talker, and was very vocal in her appreciation of my efforts. Scottie and I were praising the genius who invented Viagra, and those clever Indian chemists who know how to produce the generic version of it, as we were banging away at this gorgeous baby who lay underneath us. Truly, she is a stunningly beautiful girl, in a totally natural way, and I just couldn't believe my luck at finally finding myself between her thighs, her ankles on my shoulders and her hands on my ass, pulling me into her as hard as she could, all the while breathing "fuck me" over and over. Total Old Folks Home memory to be sure. I hope I forget my own name before I forget that! This is a fabulous life when it works, or all the time if you are Big Tigg!

For the holiday weekend, I am headed out of town tomorrow to our place in the country, where I hope to be fucking a beautiful baby I met a while back whose aunt is currently starring in a cable program that I like to watch. Every time my SO and I are viewing it, I smile to myself when I see the aunt and think "I'm fucking your niece".

What a world!

Scott

**GeorgeRichmond** · 08-29-13 16:58

What are the most common excuses to get money from you. I found few.

1. My car payment is due. If I don't make $$$ today, they will take my car. Can you go Western Union and send me money.

2. My car is broken. Can you send me money asap so I can drive.

3. Tomorrow is my birthday. Can you get me gift today? I need to buy a nice dress.

4. Need to pay rent. If I don't landlord is going to kick me out.

5. Electricity bill is due. If I don't' pay it then I will be in dark.

6. Cell phone. Bill.

7. If you don't send me allowance, I will be starving for next 1 week (this was my first SB telling me.)

Huh. There need to be a list published. So when they really give such poor reasoning. We know. How to answer.

I think. SD should be able to see the bill to believe it.

Ha ha.

**GeorgeRichmond** · 08-29-13 16:42

Well, my all time favorite SB in NY / NJ area, seen her 3 times. First date- nice one, afternoon to late night. Second, same. Third, overnight in the resort. But. As it turns. Out, it became like she is the boss, and I am getting allowance. This was 2 days event but started with too bossy. Everything was like you did this. Or don't do this. I felt like there was complete disconnect. I just decided to make it a 1 day trip instead of 2. Learned something, it is I am paying for hotel, expenses, allowance. SB yes, I respect but they can't just be on their own. It has to be mutual agreement. So. This SB. Is gone. I decided to cut loose. I am happy in the local Virginia now.

Well, on the other hand. I think this is a art. I learned so many things in last 1 month. I had 1 potential SB texting me. That she need to make a car payment and can I wire / MO money using WU. I said no. Found out on twitter that she is at redskin pre-season game. She doesn't know that but. Guys. Be lookout on social media- FB, Twitter pages for your SB.

Guys, what do you think about SB who writes on their profile that they don't smoke. But in reality, found on social media, she is smoking weeds and other. Hmm.

WOW. This world is crazy.

Just don't know if I can find a regular SB who is to good to be true. For my likeness.