"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**HollywoodGuy** · 08-14-13 22:45

You may have noticed that if you click on the login button (which takes forever to load) and then the home page (which my also take forever to load) and then do a search using the left side drop downs, that it could take forever and ever forever.

Next time, skip the login button, just click on the search button on the navigation bar at the top. You will almost immediately be logged in. Then set up an advanced search (also very fast).

When you go to the site after that, go straight to the search button, then click search on that page (your old search is saved).

Huge time saver.

**MJehl** · 08-14-13 20:58

Hello, bro-mongers.

I have only been doing this for a week and it kinda shows. I read the forum and try not to be an idiot but I am who I am.

All except for one POT flaked out for MnG. The one that I had high hopes for was the only one that I got to meet. Read and tell me your opinion after.

Sultry POT HYB 21yrs Blakelively clone. I called her the mornings of the meet and it rings rings and goes to voicemail. I tell her to call me back if it is still on. I text her and she responds that she can't wait. Its an hour drive but I show up early and text her that I am there. She text back that her battery is not working and is asking around for a jump. I ask if I can just drive to her place. She says yes and gives me the address. 5min from her place and I get a call from her. She wants me to buy a verizon card because her phone is about to die. I say ok, no problem. I had already gotten her a card and chocolates but those can be delayed til next time. I arrive and she greets me with a long hug. She is a few inches taller than me and smells great! Her place is in bad shape. Studio with holes in the walls and closet doors with bad hinges. And it smells of cigarettes although the ashtray is empty. I ask to use the bathroom because I needed to wiz and to make sure we were alone. I come back out and open the bottle of wine I brought and sit on her bed and talk for a few hours. She is a bit nervous but seems intelligent and genuine. I hear her life story and add bits of mine here and there. She laughs at my sarcasm and touches my arms and hands every now and then. She has on tights and a tank top with a low front. Everything looks perfect. Her face has some acne becuz she says she ran out of her cream and hasn't gotten a new one yet. We talk about the arrangement, once a week for a month to try things out, and she would like it to be as often as I like. I have to get back to work and tell her I am leaving. She kisses me and we french for a while with heavy petting. I almost stayed but was already cutting it close with my drive. I tell her I got to go and will be back as agreed. She lets me know there will be more next time and to. Text when I get to work so she doesn't worry. I leave I. Good spirits. Arrive at work and let her know I am fine. We text a bit into the night. Next day she barely responds with long periods of silence. I get a text saying she has phone problems and is powering it on and off. Today I text and message comes back that caller no longer receiving messages. I call and voice says phone no longer in service. So here I am venting and waiting.

I hope its not always this hard. I know I got to improve my game.

Take care and have fun.

MoJo

**HollywoodGuy** · 08-14-13 19:23

Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]

Been trying to set up a second date with my mini Byonce HYB AA but her schedule been too busy. But it seems she's still hunting for better deals, since I see her logged onto the site every day. I am not keep my hopes up on this one. I might just tell her I've made other arrangements if she txt me again (we still txt pretty much every day) , and see if that put some urgency on her.

If she is on every every day. She is a pro or UTR. When biz is slow she will see you. If you really like her keep her as a booty call girl only. You never know, she might be ready on one of your slow days. You could be paying half her going rate.

**Member #5570** · 08-14-13 19:03

Terrible week in my bowl career so far.

HYBAA Pot. The one that went silence last week, which I reconnected and set up a lunch date with this Monday pulled the same act again. Txt her in the morning of the date, everything went fine and she said she's ready. Half an hour before our appointed date, I went to pick up lunch and call her to let her know I am on my way and should be there in about 15 min. She sounded confused and somewhat panicky, she asked to put me on hold. I waited for her on the phone for a few minutes and complete silence. Tried to call and txt her, but it seems she shut off her phone. I knew I should have moved on from this one after her first disappearance act. Bad call on my part.

Another HYB AA Po. 21yr. Exchanged txts with her for a few days. Set up a date at the FC, everything seems good. Half an hour before our meeting, she txt me and said she's on her way and got a flat tire and told me she's having her car towed back home. I asked her to take a pic of her flat tire and show me, haven't seen a pic since. Another flake.

Been trying to set up a second date with my mini Byonce HYB AA but her schedule been too busy. But it seems she's still hunting for better deals, since I see her logged onto the site every day. I am not keep my hopes up on this one. I might just tell her I've made other arrangements if she txt me again (we still txt pretty much every day) , and see if that put some urgency on her.

I've never had failures like this before. Pretty much all my dates and have up on the appointed time and place and we got down to business. I guess if you play this game long enough, you'll encounter pretty much all sort of things.

**Luvinlife1963** · 08-14-13 16:54

I met one in Va Beach and she did the exact same thing. We texted a lot and most of it ended with LOL or haha. I went to her house so I'm not sure it was the same girl or not. But it sure sounds like it.

Originally Posted by HappyHunter44 [View Original Post]

Wow, you may have just saved me the same thing. I think I know who it is. Been talking to a nursing student in the same area. She has the same attitude at the end of her emails, but uses LOL. Sorry about your experience. However, thanks for reporting it.

**HappyHunter44** · 08-14-13 16:06

Originally Posted by KingGreg [View Original Post]

Why someone agree to meet for M&G and then they do showup but in middle of the meet, they runaway without saying anything? What do they get?

This happened to me yesterday. College SB verified, nursing student, came for the M&G. She responded my txt (. Everything started or ended with "haha"). May be this is a joke for this college SB in Midlothian / chesterfield area.

SB stayed for 15 mins or less and when I went to get coffee. She just ran. Well, they could just say "I don't think it is going to work out" or something.

Anyone had this experience?

Wow, you may have just saved me the same thing. I think I know who it is. Been talking to a nursing student in the same area. She has the same attitude at the end of her emails, but uses LOL. Sorry about your experience. However, thanks for reporting it.

**MJehl** · 08-14-13 14:05

Hello bro-mongers, it has been an up and down week for me since my last post. Only one of four POTs didn't flakeout. Here is the story.

The sultry BlakeLively Pot is the only one who panned out. So far. She lives about an hour away and we had planned to meet at 10am at a Starbucks. I call her before I leave in the morning, but it rings and rings then voicemail. I leave a message then text her that I am on my way. She texts back right away and says she is excited to meet. I arrive about 20min early to recon and find a good spot. I text her that I am here. She texts back and says she has car problems, her battery is dead and she is asking neighbors for a jump start. I ask her if it would be easier for me to just come to her place. She says great and texts me the address. I am about 5 minutes away when she calls and asks if I could pick up a Verizon card for her because her phone is almost dead. I say ok. I had already bought her a card and chocolates to give to her, but I opt to give her the card instead. The card and chocolates can be saved for another time. I show up and she greets me with a long hug. She is a few inches taller than me (fine with me) and she smells great. Her place is a studio and she has two cats. The place smelled of cigarettes and it was not in good shape. Closet doors off the hinges and a few fist sized holes in the walls. She apologizes for the look of the place, but I understand since this was not planned. I take off my shoes and use the bathroom, because I drank a lot of soda and to check that no one else was here. The bathroom was nice and it smelled like her. We drink the wine I brought and talk for 3 hours. She laughs at my sarcasm, tells me I am handsome, and touches my arm or hands every once in a while. We are sitting on her bed the whole time and I am trying to get an impression of her instead of making a move. Dumbass me. When I get ready to leave she comes over and hugs then and kisses then french kisses me. We do a lot of heavy petting and tongue wrestling for a while. I would've gone further but I was going to be cutting it close to get to work on time. I pull away and tell her I have to go. I will see her next week as we had discussed. She says there will be a lot more next time then. I fight off the urge to stay and head out. She tells me to text her when I get back to know that I made it safely.

I text her after I get back to work and while she is at work. Off and on throughout the night depending on the pace of work. Everything is going great. I think.

Next day I text and barely get any response from her. She says she slept in late and had thing son her mind. I inquire and she lays out all her troubles and financial woes. I tell her to take it easy and just focus on the most urgent need. She tells me she has no place to live after the month is over. She already owes for this month yet. Her work has been reducing her hours and bla bla bla bla. Then silence for a few hours. She texts back eventually and says her phone is giving her problems texting and calling.

I try calling her today and the phone is no longer in service. I do not know how a Verizon card works with disposable phones so I am just waiting.

In the meantime, I have had 10 more responses and am busy texting and screening them.

Damn. Does it get any easier? I don't want to get older faster.

Take care and have fun.

MoJo

**GeorgeRichmond** · 08-14-13 13:18

What are the precautions I should take in car renting, multi-day hotel booking with SD? Also, any of you give guidance on allowance? Let's say 2 day-2night week-end with SB. Do you offer a different allowance for being with you 24x7 for 2 day? I never done over night or over longer time. Have few meets with SB and now planning for longer time.

Also car renting. Heading to different city and will need to rent a car. Thinking about personal info, exposure, etc.

Tips. From pros or experienced is much appreciated. Will report once this trip is done (scheduled in 2 weeks).

**FredMoore** · 08-14-13 11:30

Originally Posted by ThatGuy23 [View Original Post]

Ok, so I live up in the Boston area and we don't have a Sugarbaby thread on our board so I had not even heard of this until I saw your thread pop up on the USASG home page. Have read quite a bit. And I'm jealous. Or, perhaps I should be hopeful. Hopeful that I can find the same kind of success up here in the Boston area as some of you are finding in VA. Have you heard one way or the other about whether these sites (SugarD or SA or AF or ANYthing) have the same successes up in New England?

Also, despite my trying to find the answers on my own, I can't figure out some of these acronyms. What is a Nando1? Or an FC? Or a Pot?

Thanks for any response. PM is fine if that's what you prefer!

-TG23

I just did a search of the Boston area of 18 to 29 yr olds and there were more than 1200. Sign up for SA and do an advanced search re: your specific search characteristics. I think your cup will runneth over with POTs

Review the forum for all the acronyms included herewith.

**FredMoore** · 08-14-13 11:22

Sorry for the rabbits Greg. I've had many flakes and no shows but no runners so far. The young girls I believe aren't mature enough to handle rejection so many they got cold feet when the reality of what they are doing hits them, or you weren't their cup of tea and they couldn't confront you. My suggestion is to be as up front and safe as possible re: pics and descriptions. I know when I meet a Pot who is way heavier than their 10 yr old pics I am pretty turned off and angry. Perhaps you are too good looking and intimidate them.

RE: TG23.

Boston should be a mecca for prospecting. Each area has it's own personality so you have to check the various boards. I have found that SA is by far the best source for HYBs in central / northern Va. SDFM is sparser but there are good catches to be found there as well. Re: CL and BP, I would be very careful. Some members have had good luck there but I think the risk is higher with LE and Pros.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.

**KrustyDawg7** · 08-14-13 10:44

Originally Posted by KingGreg [View Original Post]

Why someone agree to meet for M&G and then they do showup but in middle of the meet, they runaway without saying anything? What do they get?

This happened to me yesterday. College SB verified, nursing student, came for the M&G. She responded my txt (. Everything started or ended with "haha"). May be this is a joke for this college SB in Midlothian / chesterfield area.

SB stayed for 15 mins or less and when I went to get coffee. She just ran. Well, they could just say "I don't think it is going to work out" or something.

Anyone had this experience?

Stopping by on this forum as we don't have a similar one on the Roanoke page. I worked the ads on SD4ME for several months, paying the full access fee. I paid by money order since I heard that they wouldn't quit charging a CC once they got the number. So that is the first piece of advise don't use a CC. I met several women both in person and by email / text. Most seem to be amateurs but there are a lot of thieves and scams. Many of the same requests for money pop up right away. They need a greendot to pay their phone bill, or whatever. That's a sure sign to walk away. Some gals will text but they say they can't talk by phone. WTF? It might just be a guy pretending. Always search the photo images on Goog or Tineye, that should be a clue if it's a scam. A couple of gals I met didn't like me (older, fatter) and it was M&G and then "so long". I have since met one nice woman and been dating for several months, but there is a lot of hassle, cash drain, drama and extra effort that goes into the relationship. Not sure I would recommend it to anyone.dawg

**GeorgeRichmond** · 08-14-13 09:13

Why someone agree to meet for M&G and then they do showup but in middle of the meet, they runaway without saying anything? What do they get?

This happened to me yesterday. College SB verified, nursing student, came for the M&G. She responded my txt (. Everything started or ended with "haha"). May be this is a joke for this college SB in Midlothian / chesterfield area.

SB stayed for 15 mins or less and when I went to get coffee. She just ran. Well, they could just say "I don't think it is going to work out" or something.

Anyone had this experience?

**LoriTruck** · 08-14-13 02:16

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

ME. Intro Letter to a 19 year old

HER. Well I'll be honest with you, I need financial help. In my opinion its very minor. I do need to pay off student loans. I'm letting you know this because of your last paragraph (which talks about the compensation). I'm not looking for a monthly allowance or anything. But this is important to me.

ME. Yeah. I know those loans are a lot. Nobodies is less than a few thousands. You need a big time SD.

HER. Yea, I need 2 thousand. I've already paid most off, but it isn't easy.

ME. And even if we connected and I saw you once a week. That would only be $400 a month.

HER. Why only $400 a month? Please, explain to me. I've never done this before.

ME. I pay $100 a visit. Whether its an hour or two or the whole day. Plus any normal dating expenses if we go out, like dinner or a movie (except I rarely take them out. And if I do I start to subtract that from the $ per visit). You can get more from some guys, maybe guys you aren't that attracted to. But thats kinda how it works. Guys with game don't pay alot. Just enough so you realize they are serious.

HER. When can we go out? (time to double close)

ME. And yr not a player. Just a sweet nice girl that needs a little help combined with having a good time.

HER. Yea I'm not a player, I've never been and don't know how to be one. I'm just a daddys girl!

ME. Txt me at xxx-xxxx.

For me this is rare. Usually they see my offer and delete it or just say "ok, when can we meet." I do a lot of pre-qualifying in the letter as I do not have time for a lot of chit chat, endless emails, or multiple or failed M&G's. I, the rather wash them out fast (and maybe I do lose a few good ones). But in sales I was taught to look for a friendly handshake. If I have to do a lot of convincing, seriously, it takes the energy out of me. I want a lay down (literally. LOL) BTW. This girl and any girl with an affirmative response has already agreed to some sexual contact to start getting sugared. I will wait to date number two for intercourse if I have to. That's my one giveaway. But I don't think it's a coincidence that all 3 of my current regular SB's went for it on the first date. The chemistry combined with their urgency sealed the deal.

Follow up since I been writing this.

ME. Thats the kind of a girl I can appreciate. I only really date 18 or 19 year old black or mixed girls. Maybe they need to get out of their shell, want to open up to someone they feel safe with. Like to kiss and cuddle, and of course a lot more with the right guy, a guy that knows what a girl wants and needs.

HER. Well I'm 19, I mean I like to make out and stuff like that. LOL. Of course I like to have sex. I'm not a super freak though, LOL. And I'm only shy at first.

ME. I know babe. Thats what I, m here for. To understand those things and be gentle until I don't have to be.

She just txted me

HG, you & many more on this forum got more game than Jordan in his prime with the 6 rings to go with it. I find myself copying and pasting some of the nuggets on this forum onto a notepad to use on these babies. I had some success on SA but once my membership expired so did I. I went the cheap route on SD4me by signing up for the free trial & once it expired, I would only contact the total access members but not much luck there. I have wasted $ 120 or so on AM but no response from the babies on there. When the funds get right, I will revisit SA & put the skills I have learned to the test. Keep the stories coming.

**WoodSlinger** · 08-14-13 00:45

Originally Posted by ThatGuy23 [View Original Post]

Ok, so I live up in the Boston area and we don't have a Sugarbaby thread on our board so I had not even heard of this until I saw your thread pop up on the USASG home page. Have read quite a bit. And I'm jealous. Or, perhaps I should be hopeful. Hopeful that I can find the same kind of success up here in the Boston area as some of you are finding in VA. Have you heard one way or the other about whether these sites (SugarD or SA or AF or ANYthing) have the same successes up in New England?

Also, despite my trying to find the answers on my own, I can't figure out some of these acronyms. What is a Nando1? Or an FC? Or a Pot?

Thanks for any response. PM is fine if that's what you prefer!

-TG23

Girls are the same everywhere there is need. Boston is a big town, try your hand at CL to warm up, watch out for pros, have a little game and you'll be balls deep in no time.

PS. I wish I could spends some time in Bean town. Those Irish chicks are hot!

**HollywoodGuy** · 08-13-13 23:19

Originally Posted by ThatGuy23 [View Original Post]

Ok, so I live up in the Boston area and we don't have a Sugarbaby thread on our board so I had not even heard of this until I saw your thread pop up on the USASG home page. Have read quite a bit. And I'm jealous. Or, perhaps I should be hopeful. Hopeful that I can find the same kind of success up here in the Boston area as some of you are finding in VA. Have you heard one way or the other about whether these sites (SugarD or SA or AF or ANYthing) have the same successes up in New England?

Also, despite my trying to find the answers on my own, I can't figure out some of these acronyms. What is a Nando1? Or an FC? Or a Pot?

Thanks for any response. PM is fine if that's what you prefer!

-TG23

LOL. FC is my favorite, but I never use it in my posts.