"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[John G Smith]

For you guys that like to travel, I believe you can't cross state lines to meet a girl who is not of the age of consent in your home state. And I know for sure you most certainly cannot take a girl across state lines to another state with a lower age of consent. That will land you in the pokey. So to be safe go by the age of consent laws in your home state, even if you're traveling or flying babies in.

I'm in my mid 30s so I'm pretty much stuck with girls who are in the 18-21 range. It's a blessing and a curse. The young women clearly have the nice fresh bodies and generally low-mileage. However that low-mileage can also be a liability. Almost all of my current 18 year-old SBs do not like to give head. They love intercourse and going bare, but they give such tepid BJs if at all. It really seems like most women don't get truly comfortable giving head until their mid 20s or so. So while I have access to nice young fresh SBs unfortunately they're not always the most skilled group. And I can't get a SB over the age of 25 so I'm basically stuck with the young but inexperienced SBs for now.

[John G Smith]

Holy smokes this board has been active lately! I can barely keep up! Nice to see the new contributors though. It's interesting to see how every 5-6 months, I new group of members takes the reigns of this topic leading us onward.

My participation has waned a bit lately partly because I've been busy but also because I just maintain a stable of 2-3 SBs which is now considered pretty small by the forum standards, LOL, so I don't have too many exciting things to report. But here's my summery of the past month or so.

On-Going SBs

Girlfriend SB (8/8/7/8) (Face / Body / Personality / skills)

We're still gf and bf, but things have cooled a bit. She's still in high school and is going through graduation and all of the end-of-school activities, so she's been a bit distracted and not giving me the same attention she had been a few weeks ago. I suspect there's probably some guy at school she's interested in. We also had a faux pregnancy scare. She wasn't pregnant at all and even had her period, but she basically freaked herself out for about a week. I honestly don't really want to go raw with her anymore because it's probably going to cause drama like this every month. She's not costing me a dime (okay that's a lie, but she's costing me very little) , but it really is like having a long-distance relationship with all its pitfalls. So sometimes you have to be careful what you ask for. I wanted a "girlfriend experience" with a SB, but she still has to have the right personality for it to work since it's now basically a real relationship. This girl doesn't handle stress well at all, which reminds me of the warden so that's been a big turn-off. But unlike the warden, my girlfriend has a tight 18 year-old body and is kinda kinky. Still, the last few days I've called out my girlfriend on the lack of attention and the unneeded drama, if she doesn't straighten up, I may move on.

Punk SB (8/6/9/6)

Another 18 year-old that lives at home, she's half asian / half latina. We txt each other almost everyday (just a few sentences) but our schedules haven't lined up that well. The upside is that since she's still in school and lives at home, her financial needs are extremely modest. We basically agreed that after we meetup 3-4 times, I'll buy her a new phone. Things seem to be dragging on though with trying to set something up, but it's pretty clear I'm the only sugar daddy she's talking to. She hasn't logged into her profile over a month and I haven't seen her on other sites. I also doubt she would stay in continuous contact with me if she had other SDs. And her schedule is so restrictive, it really does limit the guy she can see.

In the Rear-view

Geek SB (7/7/8?).

She was half white / half asian. Things just fizzled before they really got started. She might have found another SD, I don't know. But I also didn't push forward when she wanted to meet for a FC visit. She's actually pretty smart and tech savvy and found out my real identity early on in a weak point in my cover. She was cool and wasn't a danger, but I was never really comfortable with her knowing my real identity and she only lives about 30 min away from my city. So I think I purposely just let her gradually lose interest in me in a non-descript way. She was nice though and we had a lot of common interests. But too resourceful for her own good.

Backseat SB (7/8/6/8)

My 20-year old latina, I think we finally done for good this time. Her sister found her found and saw all our txt messages. Thankfully nothing that would lead back to me, but it was very embarrassing for her. So she had a crisis of conscience and didn't want to meet anymore and told me to delete her number. Too bad. She was always somewhat detached in our romps, but she knew how to work it like most latina's know how to do. She had fantastic tits, so I'll miss those. But I think I've already found a replacement.

New On Deck

Caregiver SB (8/7/9/8)

Another 18 year-old. The 18 year-olds must love me and I love them. She's a petite latina and graduating in a few days. She's already working as a caregiver since she technically finished school back in Jan. I met her recently from SA. I have a feeling I was probably her second sugar daddy because she was already comfortable with meeting at the FC on our first date. But she didn't give any UTR vibe at all. She's just a bit naive. We talked for about a hour and then as soon as I made my move on the bed, she jumped my bones like she was starved for it. We went bare and she was extremely passionate. At the end, she was about to head out without even asking for the allowance. We also had a good flowing conversation before and after the sex. She txts me everyday just about, so we still in regular communication. We met last week for the first time and we plan to meet again tomorrow. I give her $ per visit, and I got to pay for the FC. We have enough chemistry that I might make regular weekly visits with her. Just wish I didn't have the FC costs everytime. I might try doing a cardate with her and see how that goes. Also she lives with her sister and not her parents. So her schedule is MUCH more flexible compared to the other SBs I'm seeing.

Green Eyed SB (9/9/8?)

This one is 19, I also met her off SA. She's mixed with very unique green eyes. She's completely new to the sugar bowl. We clicked well early-on, but I may have made a mistake trying to rush the FC visit right out the gate. I can pull it off half the time, but this was the other half. This girl wants to take things a little slow. I finally agreed, but that I would also be taking things slow with the sugar. She agreed to that, so we just have to setup a time to have a good ole' M&G / First Date. My patience is a bit thin these days after the time and money I wasted on my Collegiate SB back in late winter. But this girl is worth maybe a date or two to see how things go and I already made it clear that I won't be giving her any significant amounts of money until we goto the FC.

So that's pretty much it. I have three SBs I'm actively banging. Though two of them I have scheduling conflicts with, so only one of them (Caregiver SB) is the easiest to meet up with regularly.

I'm glad I'm keeping my costs down now though. I spent a lot of money in the winter on my SB activities, without too much to show for it. Also it was clear last year I was slightly overpaying. I was offering 200-300 per visit when 100-150 would still work for the vast majority, especially if you can convince them it will be consistent.

[Literal2]

Yes yes I know. Please keep fucking young girls,

Thanks.

I mean young women. I'm not in favor of our kind of sex with girls under 18. I think my youngest was a 19 year old stripper in Toronto about 10 years back. Other than her 22-23 has been the youngest for me.

[Literal2]

One thing I noticed yesterday I've only seen one time before. The girl was very sensitive to fingering, like she would arch her back up high and slide back on the bed until she hit her head on the wall. Inside her vagina, as she got more and more aroused, the walls expanded like a balloon. It felt like my hand was in a cave. The only other time I recall this it was just before a big squirt. But the girl yesterday didn't squirt. So I don't know what's going on.

[Literal2]

I don't have the money or the time to fuck the ones I have.

Sounds like a well balanced life to me.

Unfortunately I just cannot do it. She is just too fucking ugly. I took a chance and met with her. But I aint touching it. She is nice and educated and an OK figure. But she has a head like a bastard ape. I can't get hard for this. She is a 32 YO white. 4/6/6, just does not do it for me. And I have to budget my time and money. Damn I have got to get better at pre-qualifying. Real armature though and open minded.***Met her on Tuesday and fucked like crazy. It was great. She is such a sweetheart, sincere no drama, no bullshit. No pushing me for money. Just a lot of good fucking. Another gusher. In fact some get so wet I lose traction in the pussy and have to wipe them off.

This is a hoot.

[Literal2]

Quality or Quantity?

I have 4 nights free. Do I go for 4+ different one night each. 2 different 2 nights each.

Or 1 for all 4 days?

I vote for 4 for 4. Only problem is chances are high at least one will disappoint you. But its worth the risk.

[Literal2]

How about a 48 year age gap. Me 73. SB 25 and really hot!

Now that's impressive. Keep up the good work!

[HollywoodGuy]

Quality or Quantity?

I have 4 nights free. Do I go for 4+ different one night each. 2 different 2 nights each.

Or 1 for all 4 days?

Go 4 for 4. If you"re lucky you still might be interested in one of them next week. LOL

[HollywoodGuy]

How about a 48 year age gap. Me 73. SB 25 and really hot!

Now I am inspired.

[BigTigger]

Quality or Quantity?

I have 4 nights free. Do I go for 4+ different one night each. 2 different 2 nights each.

Or 1 for all 4 days?

[BigTigger]

After me and MsLatinaMILF went separated ways this morning, I had a date with MsIntelligentBeauty scheduled for 2:30pm with a interview at 5 and another one at 8pm for dinner. My 2:30 pm got delayed until 6:15 and I had to make a decision. Go with the booty I have been working on a few months or go to my two interviews.

Needless to say I took the booty. 23 year old, just graduated, athletic petite track body, toned muscles, cute but and stunning.

"10/9. 7/6/2", yeah it was that bad, one step above just laying there.

Rescheduled the two interviews.

MsLatinaMILF called and asked for a quickie. I was in the neighborhood, so went to her house, hit it for about 20 mins. Then continued home.

MsCLCutie is finally ready for the tiggabounce after what feels like 6 months. Supposed to hit that for lunch tomorrow.

I already feel drained, LOL.

One new one who agreed to $600 per month, finally sent a full body photo. She was fully clothed, but really cute and killer body. Slamming Body!

[Hammerin]

Well gang I met my Tarheel Tragedy Cheerleader in the fucking chamber and I did in fact fuck her pretty well. Tried to get her ankles back behind her ears but she seemed surprised and unfamiliar with the technique so I let it pass.

Here's the problem: she's true to her hot pix, slim and 37Ds, but she's a farm girl. Wholesome? Not really. ;

Spent her whole life raising cows. Now she is 23. Never left East Bumfuck NC or whatever the hell her damn hometown is called. However, her mom is an addict and her dad is in prison, her 3 yr old kid has a hare lip. She's never been out of NC. Never even been to the coast. She had braces on her lower teeth and her vagina was more than pungent. Not the disease some have talked about, it didn't smell putrid like the ones I've examined too soon after their period, but the odor was so strong I literally could not come close to it and I LOVE to eat pussy.

I may have set a record though, I believe she is 23 as she says. That is a 45 year gap for me, My previous best was a 22 year old with whom I had a 44 year gap. If anyone reading this has had a bigger gap I'd like to know, we probably should form an therapy group.

However I doubt anyone else reading this is fucking babies 45 years younger than them. Love to be proven wrong so lmk.

I've only had 14 girls of the sb sites I think, but the girl today is number 14 of 14 on the totem pole, inmo.

Number 15 was a fat girl I refused to fuck, though you can see her vagina in the pix I took and posted a couple years ago.

This one said I was very nice looking and wants more. I don't think so.

At least I have Motor City baby coming up Friday. Oh how I long for a suburban girl!

How about a 48 year age gap. Me 73. SB 25 and really hot!

[Literal2]

Get them in the fucking chamber and fuck them. That's my advice.

With respect.

Literal2

[Literal2]

All this posting is taking away from my work. LOL. But the ROI on the intel is worth it.

1. We should all be so lucky. But certainly a nice house, car and a well maintained appearance don't hurt.

2. I have found this to be very important and although many times required (to get optimal sexual performance) , somewhat disingenuous on my part, most of but not all of the time.

3. I rarely kiss and tell in detail. And I don't know if this is the thread to do that. But I am going to give away one sex trick. It may or may not work for you. But when it does, it's like hitting a grand slam. And guaranteed to impress. And if you date girls that think with their pussy it's a sure way to hook them for some length of time. Everyone knows or believes that direct clitoral stimulation will usually satisfy the most effectively and easily.

But try the opposite approach. This works best in mish. The idea is to postion yourself so there is absolutely no physical contact between you and your partner except your dick in her pussy. Do not touch her at all with your hands, arms, legs or stomach. Do not thrust in all the way, do not make any direct contact with her clit. Only you sliding in and out of her in the smoothest possible position. She will naturally flow with this position. After a couple of minutes tell her to just think of you as her personal sex toy. She will close her eyes. Let her dictate the rhythm. As she gets closer to orgasm she may grab on to you. I repeat. Do not touch her. Let her do all the repositioning. Let her to do most of the work. Just keep a steady rhythm. As she nears climax she may grab on tight and my force you more deeply into her. But make her be the one to do it. Only at the exact moment of orgasm should you thrust all the way in and just stay there. At which point you may or may not want to hold her or kiss her. Depending on how insistent she is.

This is best used after she has had a couple of orgasms already. Like I said before this will not work on every woman, but when it does she will consider you in the highest sexual regard. You have now literally controlled her with your dick and dick alone. This embeds a powerful message to her brain and body. As bullet points 1 and 2 may not be possible or take time to establish. The best way to quickly secure the bond with the SB is going to be # 3 with a little sugar on top.

Another reason this technique works is that a primary reason for a womans failure to orgasm easily and repeatedly is (sometimes) distraction of any kind. This allows her to focus on one thing and one thing only.

Overall I have come to see sugar dating as just, above average looking women, dating above average spending men. Remember, it's never really about how much money, time, understanding or dick you have, but only about how much you are willing to give. My primary goal (and maybe yours too) is to have the best sex of my life. I like all the gf stuff too. But when I see a movie and couples are fighting, I just cringe. I am NEVER going back to anything like that. I would rather be in a hundred superficial relationships than have to endure the pain of some female giving me shit for any reason. And SB's that want to dish that shit out get booted to the curb before they can say "but what about my cel phone bill?"

Yo HG! Thinking outside the box, man! Well done!

[Zomby]

In states where the age of consent is under 18, it's common for that to apply only if both parties are under 18. There is sometimes an exception for over 18 when one party turns 18 while in a relationship that started before then.