"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**FredMoore** · 05-02-13 13:02

Good job Party T Guy!

This is what our sport is all about, that diamond in the rough that we discover who rings our chimes.

Speaking of good catches, My current ATF is keeping me reasonably happy once / week. She is a spinner / screamer, but not a kisser, so I would like to find a more GFE type babe. A size 0 10/10 in the looks department is hard to beat, but I just like making out. There's something sensual about that mouth connection to stimulate those juices. So far I don't need the extra stimulation to keep me cumming, but after a few months I might. BTW, we tried a twice / wk freebie once and she hasn't opted to repeat, so I guess it is all about the money. (Surprise!)

Working on a POT SDFM for about 4 months. She flaked when I had text sex with her, but I've toned down my approach and we have a tentative date for dinner early next week. She is a 9/9/9 and will rock my world if I can get her in bed.

Pot #2 is also a sexting flake from SA but we are talking and she is exhibiting Nando 1 characteristics in the need department. She "needs " $2000 / month to get busy with me so I don't think she will get it. I will keep working her. She is a GND (girl next door) 8/8/8 with solid DDs.

I let an AA HCG slide because she was acting a little possessive even before meeting.

The bottom line is I need 2 all nighters / wk. I could offer my ATF more for the 2nd night but I might as well get a second SB lined up for the variety if I am paying for it anyway.

**Revvo** · 05-02-13 11:14

(here is the rest of the report, don't know why it did not upload, kind of long)

REVVOPOT3:This one went ok. She is AA, a model and thick, and pretty good looking. She was very sexy on texts and phone liked her attitude. But something was off. She was a pretty good fuck. But once I got the clothes off she just wasn't that great. I know. I am picky. But I got to be me. I am adjusting my rating to a 6/7/7. It went ok. Only cost me $.5 so no harm no foul. But I have certainly had much better AA pussy before. (I had one onetime couple of years ago that looked just liked Whitney on Fresh Prince. Damn I miss her. She fucked me like I was the last man on earth). I even think that maybe she is a UTR. Not sure though. Don't exactly know how to tell.

REVVOPOT4:This one vanished. I was kind of looking forward to it. But another flake. Flaky fucking women. Definetly a pet peeve of mine and an lesson in patience for me. Will not bother with her anymore. Unless she contacts me. Blond hair green eyed. Cute emailed but not responsive. Did not get number to text. Always bad sign.

REVVOPOT5:So this one responded to my email. This week. Very hot. Asian 37YO, looks part white. Nice pics nice titties. I give her an 9/8/7 for right now. We will see more. We set a meet and greet for Friday at 2:00 PM at a Starbucks. I am looking forward to this one. These are the age group that really like to fuck and know what they want and can dish it out also. Have not chatted with her much yet. But need to to get her more interested. They also usually do not flake as much. She looks like she should be fun. But I just don't know a lot about her yet.

REVVOPOT6:I know there are a lot but I am determined not to get left in the dust again. This one is a very cute blond. 25 YO white, single. Total newbie. She is very concerned about being treated bad. So I have handled her with kid gloves and she is coming around. Very good looking. 8/9/7. She has a real job, works out, and a real life. Not sure why she is on this site. But she is coming around nicely, she has agreed to a M&G with me for Friday at 5pm happy hour. In fact as she warms up she is contacting me. We had some nice phone conversations. I always find that helps the transition to the M&G a little. You are more real to them. She has not talked with anyone else on the site yet. Thanks Hollywood for the strategy of getting the babies early on. This does work guys. She is definetly good to go for Friday.

REVVOPOT7: This one I met on the site, yesterday and met her for coffee today. She is close to NANDO1 status. But she if cute and has a great personality and sense of humor. She is blond. 28yo MILF, separated and hurting for money. I would give her a 7/8/8 rating. Very thin, sexy flat belly, cute little titties from what I can tell. Not so sure she is long term material but she is sweet. She also does not have a car. She has a house but no car, and no job. Cannot host because of kids and neighbors. I don't blame her. We did not talk money. But I don't think she will demand too much. Certainly a good booty call girl.

REVVOPOT8:This one I met on the site yesterday. She is definetley a NANDO1. She is 19yo white cute, nice rack with 4 month old baby abandoned by her babydaddy. She is desperate and has never done anything like this before. Redhead, nice smile. 7/7/4. She is trying to work me for money before we even meet. She stood me up on the M&G, but she did call and she is calling and texting me. So she is trying to stay in touch. Not really a good prospect. Probably should not bother. Just the redhead thing you know, and the 19yo thing also.

REVVOPOT9:Another redhead 20 yo HCB. Nice looking kind of stiff at first but I got her to loosen up. She has had one SD so far and liked it and is now back in the bowl. She is open minded and likes to take that walk on the wild side. Do not know a lot about her looks yet. Pics were not very complete. But she looks really good. I will give her a 8/7/7 for right now. We are meeting at starbucks tomorrow at 1:30. Funny. People at these starbucks are starting to look at me weird. Haha. This could turn out to be a real diamond in the rough. Not a lot to tell yet. But I will know a lot more tomorrow.

REVVOPOT10:This is a 20 yo latina. I met on Friday and did the M&G on Monday morning. Very sweet and kind of cute but overweight and gave me a terrible kiss on our goodbye. She is definetley good to go. But I am going to have to cut her loose. She is just not what her pics showed. Nice kid. But I literally just have too many to juggle. She would be a good standard $ girl for a good booty call. May do it. But probably not. Literally just too many. She is a 7/5/6, hard to justify the money. When I have all of this above.

All I really need is a few. I am not a big juggler. I bet you half of these will not even be in the picture next week. My ideal situation would be my ATF on allowance, my backup ATF, not named yet, a good booty call girl, and one fly in girl. Max. But of course things never work out the way you think. But we shall see. I have ate a lot of shit sandwiches to get here. Time to pay off big time.

Its funny I started this to get to see what would happen. Not a lot of good happened. Then I backed out for a while. Then I got back in and sharpened my game to get over all of the rejection. I got more rejection. Then I got my all time ATF. Then she rejected me. That really doubled my efforts and got me to the stride I am at now. I would have never thought it would be this hard, and I would be working these many babies. But it does seem to be paying off.

One of the senior master mongers PM'ed me the other day and mentioned how this affects you confidence and attraction with civilian women. And he is right. I do get a lot more looks and flirts than I used to. And frankly that was one of my goals. So I guess I am getting there.

Lets be careful out there.

REVVO

**PartyTimeGuy** · 05-02-13 07:17

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

There is nothing more satisfying than a hard loving sugar baby that worships the ground you walk on. Maybe my last 2 wives did adore me from time to time. But there is nothing like the constant praise and attention to my sexual needs these girls give.

You are so right. The "amateur" encounter for mutual fun and pleasure with a financial sweetener to keep the SB happy? It doesn't get much better than that to fulfill a man's sexual needs in body, mind and spirit.

Case in point. I was at a seedy strip bar a few weeks ago. It was in a very small town. Usually such places have slim pickings. You know the drill: the old, the fat and the ugly; the disinterested good lookers who seem bored out of their trees and going through the motions almost with a yawn; the experienced but jaded who are hard as nails. But this time I was lucky. There was a fresh, young, energetic dancer with bright blue eyes and long flowing platinum hair who was having genuine fun on the stage and teased you with her body, her eyes and her smile. I hired her for a couch dance. This place was still in a time warp. 20 for a naked lap massage. This pretty tight young spinner had me creaming my pants in under a minute. I couldn't even buy her a drink afterwards because she is under 21 but the latest thing for the under 21 crowd seems to be energy drinks. Not that this girl lacked energy, LOL. We talked and I go\t to know her a little better. She had recently left home because of an abusive step father (not sexually abusive from what I could gather, just an obnoxious SOB). She started stripping about a month ago to be able to have a roof over her head and eat. She was renting a small room over the bar. I asked her if she wanted to be an "entrepreneur" after work for mutual fun and profit and she giggled and smiled and said,"sure." Her room was out because of the obvious logistical problem of being right over the place where she worked and the dim view the bar would have of this activity. But there was a small no-tell motel nearby and we went there after her shift. This sexy gal rocked my world. We spent a few hours having one of the the best sexually fun times in my life. She didn't even discuss price. I could have been a bastard and stiffed her but I really liked her and sympathized with her situation. I normally price a SB encounter at $ but this girl was worth every penny of the $$ donation I volunteered. She was absolutely and totally thrilled to death. She almost cried. We have gotten together twice since. She treats me like a God and we have tremendous sexual fun and adventure. It is about a 2 hour drive from where I live but also well worth the time and effort. I don't know how long I can keep this fresh innocent young fun play toy before she gets spoiled or led astray by some other lecherous customer in the strip joint. But I am enjoying every minute of this wonderful ride while I can.

**HollywoodGuy** · 05-02-13 03:44

Originally Posted by PartyTimeGuy [View Original Post]

Good advice. Anything worth having is worth some effort.

There is nothing more satisfying than a hard loving sugar baby that worships the ground you walk on. Maybe my last 2 wives did adore me from time to time. But there is nothing like the constant praise and attention to my sexual needs these girls give.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 05-01-13 21:08

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

The best advice has already been given. But let me reiterate a few things.

1. Read the entire thread from begining to end. It will help tremendously and it is very very entertaining. There were times when I could not put it down.

2. This hobby is work. This is not like picking up a phone and ordering an escort like a bucket of chicken. These babies do cost money, but there are many hoops you need to go through before you land a SB. Especially a good one.

3. Be ready to look at this like dating to a certain extent. I would even say this is more difficult than regular dating. In fact if I wasnt married I would not be doing this. I would go the conventional dating route.

4. Be very careful. You can run into some really crazy people out there. They can fuck your life up. Read the posts on security carefully. These are hard won lessons.

5. But when it is good. It is awesome. The connection, the sex, the non controlling with the right baby, can rock your world. No risk no reward.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

Good advice. Anything worth having is worth some effort.

**Zomby** · 05-01-13 19:24

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Well that certainly is more complimentary than Hard Core *itch

Hah! I was wondering if that's what you were going with!

/z

**Revvo** · 05-01-13 19:17

I am going to have to slow down. My one friend told me I am obsessed and I of course told him no way. And then he told me I am in denial. He should know he is a admitted alchololic and has been through three marriages. I may be. I started this thing out as a journey to find out more about myself, deal with some of my own issues, and to get some first class pussy. I am progressing through all three but certainly not what I expected it to be.

REVVOATF: Really going well. Spent two quality sessions with her last week. But she is out of town this week. She travels for her work. And she wants to see me and tells me how much she misses me. But our schedules conflict. So we are going to have to settle for next week. Man I am going to tear that little pussy up next week. She is very fair on the price. But I am thinking of putting her on an allowance to save on per visit costs. We will see. I am considering taking her on a trip with me. What do you experienced SD's think of that? Any suggestions or advice?

REVVOPOT1: This is a new one since the other POT1 bolted. She is a 26YO married, absolutely gorgeous MILF. Thought she lived nearby my but she actually lives in the neighboring state. She has dark hair, grey eyes, an exquisite body. A cocky sparkling personality, and she is very sassy also. She is up for traveling and is very willing to play around on her husband. I will give her a 10/9/9, we are getting along very well lots of banter on text and phone. Oh and she has a great rack. She is very responsive and does not appear to be in this for the money so far. We will have to see. But my hopes are probably up too much.

REVVOPOT2:Another no show. I do get a lot of flakes. Not sure why but my theory is multifold. 1. I am offering low dollars so they are not exactly putting themselves out there to take a ristk. 2. They are mostly hot and white which usually makes them somewhat trouble. 3. I think I am just a little too patient and tolerant. But that is changing. Anyway texted her the night before the meet to get her confirmation. And nothing. Then the next morning and again an hour later no response. I gave up and sent her a non threatening text saying goodbye and call if you change your mind. Later that day she responded and said she

**F Scott** · 05-01-13 19:01

Gentlemen,

The weather has finally turned for the better, and it must have caused the sap to rise in the fair city of Chicago, because I am suddenly being swarmed by babies! Hooray for me! Plus, my SO is out of town for the next two nights, so I am hard at work, filling my dance card.

I had coffee with a new baby this morning, a nursing student that lives in her own apt, paid for by BioDaddy, and things went extremely well. For those of you who have ever experienced the wonder that is a nursing student, you will know what I fully believe lies ahead for me. As a whole, those babies are sex machines! Yay! We are slated in for dinner tomorrow night, and then a return to her place to listen to some music. Yeah, right!

After work tonight, I am heading in to a trendy neighborhood to meet a HOT tattooed artist baby for drinks and a solid fucking. All the prelims have been dealt with, Air Scottie has been cleared for landing, and I am dizzy with anticipation. Following that, I am meeting my ATF for a late supper, again followed by some solid fucking. I am in serious danger of getting e-involved with her, if in fact I'm not already (I am) , but it is a ride I've been on before, and I am willing to suffer the consequences.

Tomorrow, I am meeting a HYM for lunch at a farm to table restaurant that I have been dying to try, which is conveniently close to her apartment. We had lunch last week, complete with make out session in my car afterwards, and she is absolutely delightful. She's pretty, incredibly sweet and thougthful, and funny.

After that, as I said, I am having dinner with my nursing student baby! If it all goes the way I hope it will, I will think I'm chanelling Big Tigger!

Life is good, my brothers.

Stay in touch,

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 05-01-13 12:22

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

HCB =Hot College Baby'

Well that certainly is more complimentary than Hard Core *itch

**F Scott** · 05-01-13 11:57

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

Due to some unexpected write downs at work (which are coming straight out of my pay) I told all my girls that they have to take a 50% pay cut for the months of May and maybe June, except for the newest one because I am still in the process of locking her in.

No one is bitching and one of my part timers even did me a big favor today by introducing me to one of her daddies that can help with something I need resulting in a net gain of maybe $500 a month. As I am pretty content with the current lineup I don't see myself doing more than 1 or 2 interviews this month and only did one last month.

Also, I see you all using the acronym HCB even with girls you like? So I am not totally getting the real meaning of that phrase. Any nuanced responses are appreciated. This is not a phrase used in my area. Just like I doubt people use the phrase "bitchin" in yours.

HCB = Hot College Baby.

HYM = Hot Young Mom; or HSM = Hot Single Mom

**FredMoore** · 05-01-13 10:38

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

I see you all using the acronym HCB even with girls you like? So I am not totally getting the real meaning of that phrase. Any nuanced responses are appreciated. This is not a phrase used in my area. Just like I doubt people use the phrase "bitchin" in yours.

HCB =Hot College Baby A most flattering acronym in my book. Bitchin '

**HollywoodGuy** · 05-01-13 03:47

Due to some unexpected write downs at work (which are coming straight out of my pay) I told all my girls that they have to take a 50% pay cut for the months of May and maybe June, except for the newest one because I am still in the process of locking her in.

No one is bitching and one of my part timers even did me a big favor today by introducing me to one of her daddies that can help with something I need resulting in a net gain of maybe $500 a month. As I am pretty content with the current lineup I don't see myself doing more than 1 or 2 interviews this month and only did one last month.

Also, I see you all using the acronym HCB even with girls you like? So I am not totally getting the real meaning of that phrase. Any nuanced responses are appreciated. This is not a phrase used in my area. Just like I doubt people use the phrase "bitchin" in yours.

**HollywoodGuy** · 05-01-13 03:45

Originally Posted by HighCotton [View Original Post]

So. We've all shared a lot on this board, am wondering if we take it to another level.

I travel a lot for work, am sure others do as well. How do you guys feel about making recommendations of specific SA profile numbers that might be a good contact (e. G. Gives up the goods quickly at a fair price) for a traveling man? I get it, noone wants to give out their favorites, no problem with that. But perhaps some recommendations on who to see, or who to avoid.

Probably best done by PM so we don't swamp the board. I've got contacts in Miami, Chicago, New Orleans, Dallas. Note that its only the girls I actually saw, so not a huge number. And some were disasters, but there is info there.

In return, I've got a trip coming up to Chicago in late May. FScott was gracious enough to give me a couple pointers, if any of the rest of you have anything I'd greatly appreciate it!

HC

If they are in the L. A area, ask, and ye shall receive, if I have any info. As I chat up a lot of girls (mixed and AA) that I never meet. And also can surmise by their frequency of visits and length of membership their possible motives. Sort of a demographic modeling algorithm.

**Member #4103** · 04-30-13 17:09

Was wondering if any of you guys in our little Richmond sugar bowl have met up with "Virginia", mid-30s white milky type, profile number 1429968 on SA? Any intel?

She saw my profile and is going after me pretty hard with some great rates, right down to business etc. Etc. Almost makes me wonder if LEO has decided to play in our bowl? Would be shocked, our city barely functions as is, but who knows.

Anybody met her? Shoot me a PM if you have any intel.

Thanks!

HC

**Member #4103** · 04-30-13 16:01

So. We've all shared a lot on this board, am wondering if we take it to another level.

I travel a lot for work, am sure others do as well. How do you guys feel about making recommendations of specific SA profile numbers that might be a good contact (e. G. Gives up the goods quickly at a fair price) for a traveling man? I get it, noone wants to give out their favorites, no problem with that. But perhaps some recommendations on who to see, or who to avoid.

Probably best done by PM so we don't swamp the board. I've got contacts in Miami, Chicago, New Orleans, Dallas. Note that its only the girls I actually saw, so not a huge number. And some were disasters, but there is info there.

In return, I've got a trip coming up to Chicago in late May. FScott was gracious enough to give me a couple pointers, if any of the rest of you have anything I'd greatly appreciate it!

HC