"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Spitfire** · 04-29-13 19:02

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Hollywood,

I appreciate the info. I have a green dot card for just such contingencies, so I will sign up as a paying member, and see what happens. My card only has $50 on it, as I have learned my lesson with SD4Me before and how hard it is to cancel their ongoing billing.

I will, of course, report back with anything of value that I learn.

Scott

Also, you have to do the 'total access' thing if you want women who are non-members to have the ability to contact you.

**F Scott** · 04-29-13 18:58

Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]

SB's on SD4ME can not message you back through the system until you are a member. If you look in your out box you can see if they read your message or not. I just sent a test email to my roommates account with my email address in it. Its not blocked (but I am a member). But most girls initially want to reply through the site as it is much faster and easier. Also you don't have any street cred with them if you are not a gold member.

Hollywood,

I appreciate the info. I have a green dot card for just such contingencies, so I will sign up as a paying member, and see what happens. My card only has $50 on it, as I have learned my lesson with SD4Me before and how hard it is to cancel their ongoing billing.

I will, of course, report back with anything of value that I learn.

Scott

**HollywoodGuy** · 04-29-13 18:54

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

In a fit of boredom, and perhaps to see what color the grass was in a slightly different yard, I signed up today for a 3 day trial membership with SD4Me. I know, I know, I was one of their harshest critics, but my motives were two-fold: I have met some outstanding babies on SA, have let my profile there expire, and don't really want to have them see me logging on just at the moment. Two of them are delicate little newbies, and I want to solidify my place (between their legs) before some other local shark comes along and messes it up for me. One of them, my potential new ATF, I know has already strayed from the sheltering pool that I created for her, got a glimpse of the depravity that lurks just beyond the drop-off, and has come swimming back at top speed. My other motive was to see if there were different, or the same, babies on both sites.

In any event, I signed up, as I said, for a 3 day trial run, using a gift card that had a few dollars left on it, and have been busily sending out messages to pretty much any baby that caught my eye, or Scottie's. In my text, I urge them to contact me at my yahoo Sugar email, but so far, no joy! My question to those who prefer SD4Me is this: if I only have a trial membership, can the babies read my emails? There was some language in the legal boilerplate about needing to upgrade to even be able to send emails, but that does not seem to be my issue. I look in my outbox, and there they all are, but none have been read, even to babies that the site states are ONLINE NOW! If I need to be patient, I can be, but I just want to be sure I'm not missing some fine point that will render me more successful.

Interstingly enough, there have only been about 4 overlaps of babies with SA. I don't know what that means, but I'll keep trying to figure it out.

Thank you for any intel you supply. I'm sure it will be helpful to more than me.

Waiting,

Scott

SB's on SD4ME can not message you back through the system until you are a member. If you look in your out box you can see if they read your message or not. I just sent a test email to my roommates account with my email address in it. Its not blocked (but I am a member). But most girls initially want to reply through the site as it is much faster and easier. Also you don't have any street cred with them if you are not a gold member.

**F Scott** · 04-29-13 18:44

Gentlemen,

In a fit of boredom, and perhaps to see what color the grass was in a slightly different yard, I signed up today for a 3 day trial membership with SD4Me. I know, I know, I was one of their harshest critics, but my motives were two-fold: I have met some outstanding babies on SA, have let my profile there expire, and don't really want to have them see me logging on just at the moment. Two of them are delicate little newbies, and I want to solidify my place (between their legs) before some other local shark comes along and messes it up for me. One of them, my potential new ATF, I know has already strayed from the sheltering pool that I created for her, got a glimpse of the depravity that lurks just beyond the drop-off, and has come swimming back at top speed. My other motive was to see if there were different, or the same, babies on both sites.

In any event, I signed up, as I said, for a 3 day trial run, using a gift card that had a few dollars left on it, and have been busily sending out messages to pretty much any baby that caught my eye, or Scottie's. In my text, I urge them to contact me at my yahoo Sugar email, but so far, no joy! My question to those who prefer SD4Me is this: if I only have a trial membership, can the babies read my emails? There was some language in the legal boilerplate about needing to upgrade to even be able to send emails, but that does not seem to be my issue. I look in my outbox, and there they all are, but none have been read, even to babies that the site states are ONLINE NOW! If I need to be patient, I can be, but I just want to be sure I'm not missing some fine point that will render me more successful.

Interstingly enough, there have only been about 4 overlaps of babies with SA. I don't know what that means, but I'll keep trying to figure it out.

Thank you for any intel you supply. I'm sure it will be helpful to more than me.

Waiting,

Scott

**Revvo** · 04-29-13 16:36

The best advice has already been given. But let me reiterate a few things.

1. Read the entire thread from begining to end. It will help tremendously and it is very very entertaining. There were times when I could not put it down.

2. This hobby is work. This is not like picking up a phone and ordering an escort like a bucket of chicken. These babies do cost money, but there are many hoops you need to go through before you land a SB. Especially a good one.

3. Be ready to look at this like dating to a certain extent. I would even say this is more difficult than regular dating. In fact if I wasnt married I would not be doing this. I would go the conventional dating route.

4. Be very careful. You can run into some really crazy people out there. They can fuck your life up. Read the posts on security carefully. These are hard won lessons.

5. But when it is good. It is awesome. The connection, the sex, the non controlling with the right baby, can rock your world. No risk no reward.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

**HollywoodGuy** · 04-29-13 15:25

Originally Posted by Mr Strict [View Original Post]

How about grammar, sentance structure and puncuation? Good grief.

Strict

Sentance / sentence.

Puncuation / punctuation

**F Scott** · 04-29-13 14:47

Originally Posted by Mr Strict [View Original Post]

How about grammar, sentence structure and punctuation? Good grief.

Strict

We are a fairly literary bunch, are we not? As always, newbies are encouraged to read the thread from the start. Most, if not all, answers are there.

Scott

**Mr Strict** · 04-29-13 14:13

Originally Posted by S2568 [View Original Post]

I see you guys reporting regularly I have been more into professionals would like to try this see if I am successful, have membership not paid in sb. Com site all I get is older, can I get some guidance need some college girls with out going bankrupt.

S2568

How about grammar, sentance structure and puncuation? Good grief.

Strict

**FredMoore** · 04-29-13 13:54

Originally Posted by S2568 [View Original Post]

can I get some guidance need some college girls with out going bankrupt.

S2568

College girls go to the head of the class (pun intended ). They aren't everyone's cup of tea but they generally are smart, cute, and unspoiled yet if you catch them before their pussies get plated with gold and silver. SA dot com seems to be the best consistent source of College SBs. They are marked and certified as such. My ATF ATF came from SBFM though so you never know where you will luck into a SB with the right attitude for you.

I am currently seeing my new ATF who is an elderly upper 20s. The only thing I see different from the 18 to 22 yr old group is a more mature way of looking at things. They look just as hot and young. There is less drama since she has her own place and there is no issue with flea bag notels. She uses my $$ for clothes, and she likes to dress up and go out to dinner.

I recommend 25 to 30 age group, never married, no children, gainfully employed, owns a car, has her own place / no room mates, and professes to need money for the "extras" in life rather than the necessities. Most of my SBs are not sex maniacs, which suits me fine. I like teaching them what I like and I don't want her to be trolling the sites to get her daily bang when I am not available for her. Nymphos are fun but they need more than most guys can give them. In fact, these girls I like are usually size 0 to 2 and all are tight. I have to be very slow and gentle to start or I seem to hurt them.

**S2568** · 04-29-13 11:51

I see you guys reporting regularly I have been more into professionals would like to try this see if I am successful, have membership not paid in sb. Com site all I get is older, can I get some guidance need some college girls with out going bankrupt.

S2568

**Revvo** · 04-29-13 08:41

As has been said many times. You just do not know what is going to happen in the bowl. One of the things that keeps it interesting.

So my ATF that left me a couple of weeks ago is gone still. Not the best experience I have ever been through. Because of how great she was in all aspects made her leaving very difficult. She did tell me that she wants to stay in touch and we could do stuff later. But I am not so sure. I may contact her I may not. But I am definitely not going to do anything right away.

REVVOATF: Still going strong. She is as sweet as can be. Does just anything I want her to do. Best blow jobs, enthusiastic and fun to be with. Not like my former ATF but still pretty damn good. On our last visit we spent 5 hours together fucking, sucking, playing napping, went out and got ice cream. It was great. She really seems to be attracted to older men. And I don't know if it is daddy issues since she has a father. Anyway she is tiny and when doing the deep penetration I can feel my dick actually bottoming out. And I am not that big. Just normal size. Never experienced that before.

REVVOPOT1: Gone. Not sure what happened she was good to go with the FC meet. Texted me twice she was ready to visit the FC. I texted her back with time and date, and plans. And poof just like that she vanished. Called her twice over three days. Even sent her an email and nothing. I think she may have gotten cold feet. She is very inexperienced 20yo latina. Cannot say. Oh well on to others. Certainly not as disappointed as I was when my ATF left.

REVVOPOT2: Another young one. 22YO White, cute and sexy and a little cocky. 7/9/8. As usual this rating may change after the meet and greet and then again after she gets fucked. (I can tell you my former ATF went way up on all scales after some quality time tearing that shit up.) But she seems to be fun. A little harder to nail down. She is a server and is ready to do a M&G on Monday at 1pm. We have had a few fun and flirty texts a little light but definitely got the flirt on. She is coming around slowly. She has a sexy body, and a cute smile and attitude. This one needs to be worked slowly.

REVVOPOT3:22 YO AA, thick and juicy. She is a model also. And she has the booty to prove it. Let me tell you she has one power ass. I have seen her work, magazines and music videos, and it is pretty good. This one is a handful. She is sexy attractive, and a killer body, give her a. 7/10/9. I have met her and she is good to go. She likes the $100 per visit thing. Which is a big plus when you are doing multiples. She is also in nursing school. Texts me every day and wants to talk about all the things we are going to do. I am giving her a little. But I do not want to go too far. I found this can spook them before the FC. We are scheduled to get down to it on Tuesday. Man I am going to have to wax that ass good.

REVVOPOT4:22 YO White blond haired green eyed. A little different but very cute. Early to tell. But 8/9/9 at this time. She wants to meet and looks like she is a hairdresser. Kind of on the mellow side conversing we are still trying to get a date and time. But I am shooting for next Wednesday. This one is not 100% there so I will have to muster my skills to get her to the FC. Very much an amateur dipping her toe in the water. We shall see.

Others: There have been at least four others that I have either not contacted or decided to let go. For a couple of reasons. They were a little less good looking. 5 thru 7 max, and they seemed to be wandering into NANDO1 territory. Plus I only have so much time and money. I am a bit picky, I like attractive women. I think this is why I have a harder time than some.

Traveling with the babies. So I have talked with my current ATF about going on a trip soon. I am going to be out of town on business and have her come in at the end of the week and stay with me for a couple of days extra. Any advice on doing this. I know Subcommander and maybe FSCOTT have been down this road. Security concerns? Things to not do?

Thanks guys.

Lets be careful out there.

Revvo

**PartyTimeGuy** · 04-29-13 07:41

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

I love these mind games!"What ifs "

I would move to SB Island, Yep! Absolutely true. I would divorce and have 2 or 3 regulars 1 or 2 days / week each, then intersperse a rotation of newbies in and out, in and out Sorry, I got carried away with the thought of it all.

" one recently that worked a $12 an hour job who was thrilled to session with me for 60 bucks." and " $ is satisfactory"

Where do you guys find these cheap dates? I can't get these girls in central Va to give it up for less than $250. I figure one of three things is happening

1) My taste is too high for bottom fishing.

2) I am not as hot as you guys.

3) this area is more competitive and is driving the prices up.

It is probably a combo of the three.

I am not "hot" by any stretch of the imagination but I am not ugly either and women do like a nice personality and I have that. SBs who want a lot are like SWs who want a lot or even gfs or wives who want a lot. They just do because that's the way they are. I avoid them. Money is all they want and IMHO if the attitude isn't accommodating then no amount of money will produce it. I have had hot young SWs for an enthusiastic and very enjoyable BJ for 20 bucks. I have enjoyed SBs for hours at a time for 50. $ is my standard donation for a SB date sometimes also including a meal or a little shopping. There is some relationship of money demanded to the way a girl looks but it is not always just about that either. Girls willing to meet my monetary guidelines had the right attitude to start with or were so new to it that they weren't yet jaded enough to think their mouths and pussy were made of gold. Either way is fine with me but nothing substitutes for the right attitude. This is definitely about money but it is about more than money too.

**HollywoodGuy** · 04-29-13 04:47

Originally Posted by TreasureHunter [View Original Post]

With all this talk of millionaire sugar daddies, I wanted to ask a forum wide question. If you were to come into a large sum of money, millions, would you run your game and approach differently, if so how? Some of you guys would probably just get divorced and move to Sugar Baby Island. LOL!

Being that I am already the governor of my own SB Island, I guess I would to try my fare out to sea and find some other SB packed retreats

**FredMoore** · 04-28-13 18:42

Originally Posted by TreasureHunter [View Original Post]

With all this talk of millionaire sugar daddies, I wanted to ask a forum wide question. If you were to come into a large sum of money, millions, would you run your game and approach differently, if so how? Some of you guys would probably just get divorced and move to Sugar Baby Island. LOL!

I love these mind games!"What ifs "

I would move to SB Island, Yep! Absolutely true. I would divorce and have 2 or 3 regulars 1 or 2 days / week each, then intersperse a rotation of newbies in and out, in and out Sorry, I got carried away with the thought of it all.

" one recently that worked a $12 an hour job who was thrilled to session with me for 60 bucks." and " $ is satisfactory"

Where do you guys find these cheap dates? I can't get these girls in central Va to give it up for less than $250. I figure one of three things is happening

1) My taste is too high for bottom fishing.

2) I am not as hot as you guys.

3) this area is more competitive and is driving the prices up.

It is probably a combo of the three.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 04-28-13 11:56

Added a keeper today 19, Hispanic, Petite, Spinner, Gymnast, College student, Very intelligent. Likes the adventure and mind games as much or more than the money. $ is satisfactory. Loves sex and can twist up like a pretzel. Makes for unusual positions. Likes to explore and wants to try role playing especially BDSM games. Likes girls too and wants to include a friend some time.