"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BigTigger]

LOL, such a terrible life I lead.

In the end I was being too judgmental about her showing up high, wasn't understanding enough of the fact that she was tired, I need to understand that she doesn't want to be too passionate because she does not want to get attached AND she was expecting me to give her the entire agreed upon monthly amount at the first meeting. REALLY! So it's all my fault! We've exchanged texts and I can keep her around for a sporadic every now and then. But she's out of the running to be my #1 sb.

By the way, my AM finds are working out pretty well. 2 AA thick chicks. Both pretty much just want a good screw without attachment.

I have another SA find who's very thick, she is cute, has a great personality, her own place, car, etc. Originally discussed a monthly amount, but I was able to get her to agree to a per visit fee as I'm not willing to bring her in the #1 spot either. The sex is great, don't ask me why I don't just chill with her an call it a day. But she will a better long term friend without commitment with a pay as you go setup.

I got 2 others from SA who I'm working on. I'm hoping one of these will make it into the #1 spot. Both have potential are very good looking, under 23 years old. SA has been very profitable this time around. I'm not quite up to Hollywood's harem, but it's keeping me busy.

[Revvo]

The Sugar Bowl Gives And The Sugar Bowl Takes Away.

It has been quite a week. I am going to have to slow down my pace. But I must admit overall I feel energized.

So the week started off with a shock.

REVVOATF: This was bad. Real bad. Things had been going very well. And all of a sudden she up and quit on me. This was a shock! Things were going so well. It was almost erie how well. We really were very well matched. She is 39 knew her way around and did not cause any problems. She was sexy beautiful and fun, and exciting. She had a life and wanted to live it. But she did have a child and wanted to meet on weekends when she could drop her child off at her moms. I could only meet on weekdays when I was in her town. This caused a hardship for her. And she told me she could not do it anymore. She is hurting for money and was giving up the allowance I was giving her. She has either found another SD or she is really comiitted to doing what she wants. I have repeatedly checked her for lies and have found not one inconsistency. This really sucks. I am suprised at how much this affected me. But I must say she has way outdistanced all other babies I have been with. The only other alternative is REVVOSB1, which my ATF beats her but it is closer. Oh well I am getting over it. But it aint fun.

REVVOSB1: My little fortune cookie is going strong. Very different person. Mellow and quite. But quite passionate in the FC. She is willing to do anything I can think of so far. No drama. No bullshit. She is very accommodating and affectionate. She is very cool. But I will say she is not at exciting and fun as my ATF was. She is absolutely beautiful. Dresses real classy and never wears underwear when she is wearing a skirt or dress. Its always nice to be able to sneak a little feel under her dress when we are out. So sexy.

REVVOPOT1: Very nice latina 20YO 8 head, 7 body, and 8 personality. Sweet as can be. Very willing to follow my lead. She is self sufficient and is going to start college in a few weeks. She is also getting her own apartment so she will be able to host soon. We have not visited the FC yet. But we are close. She was very willing. We did some serious making out but no FC. When we left she texted me 10 minutes later wanting to talk about planning the big day. These young babies you have to really go slow. But since I was cool about everything and she was not feeling any pressure, she came around. So we are set for next week.

REVVOPOT2: This was a big bust. Chick was a solid 10 but had a bad case of GPS, even after she agreed to $$. She even wanted to charge me to meet. So we ended it.

REVVOPOT3: This one was a very strong college student Eastern Indian. 23YO 9 head. 9 body. 4 attitude. She had an even worse case of GPS. If you do not get this money thing out of the way up front. It can really bite you wasting your time. So she is out of here. We had a long text exchange about value and the sugar bowl. Here is a little of it:

Aghamora: I've decided I would only meet up with you for 500 bucks 8:37 PM.

Me: Is that 500 just to meet? 8:37 PM.

Aghamora: Ok I am just going to be honest with you. I am attracted to you, I am interested, but I am also looking for money for school. 8:41 PM.

Me: Honesty is good. Lets be honest. I am attracted to you and I am very interested. And this is a sugar daddy dating site so money is a part of it. 8:44 PM.

Me:. So you want 500 just to meet? 8:45 PM.

Aghamora: Yes 8:47 PM.

Me: Well sweetie I cannot do that. And I do want to meet you. But I never pay someone to meet them. You are very attractive and interesting and I can help you out but. 8:50 PM.

Me:. I have met many beautiful women on here and on my own and I never paid anyone money to meet. 8:50 PM.

Me: Ok sweetie. It was very nice meeting you. I enjoyed chatting with you. Please let me know if you change your mind. .9:32 PM.

Aghamora: sorry I am not changing my mind. I have only been with 2 guys my whole life, I'm foreign, I'm sexy and this is the first time I'm doing this. I am definitely not changing my mind. If you change your mind let me know. 3:33 PM.

Me: Sweetie. I would never ask you to do something you do not want to do. But I think you should know a few things. I have had several sugar babies they were all very beautiful and some went on to be long term. 4:18 PM.

Me:. I have friends that have dated many SB's. And I have never paid for someone to just meet me. And the most I have ever paid for a visit is 200 and that is for everything. Yes your are cute and foreign. But for example. 4:20 PM.

Me:. My last SB was Asian, beautiful and she was 25 and had an Ivy League education. And we adored each other and truly had a great time together. Good luck with your search. .4:22 PM.

Aghamora: goodluck to you too. It was great talking to you 5:00 PM.

Aghamora: and I am aerospace engineering major by the way. 200 for everything that is crazyy and cheap, but I guess we are just not for each other. 5:49 PM.

Me: Aghamora. I understnad how you feel. This is a market just like anything else. You are educated so you understand there is supply and there is demand. For every man on the SD site there are 20 women. 6:12 PM.

REVVOPOT4: This is a sweet little 20 yo white baby 8 head. 8 body. 7 attitude. At first had a little attitude but she came around kind of quickly. She is very responsive and sexy. We are still working on schedules but not been able to meet yet. But she seems very willing and wants to meet. Works as a server at night. So it is hard to find a good time to meet.

Much more to write not much time right now. Will come up with an update soon.

Be careful out there,

Revvo

[BigTigger]

So you banged her for a few bucks and on to the next one. Damn you got a tough life. Every reject just puts you one step closer to the next ATF. But you already know that.

LOL, such a terrible life I lead.

[HollywoodGuy]

Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.

But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.

This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.

Never tried it. Let us know how it's going

[Member #5570]

Ok, not sure this is appropriate on this thread.

But have anyone tried fb dating? I just signed up for Zoosk within the FB environment.

This could potentially be a goldmine for digging up nubile / inexperienced young SBs.

[HollywoodGuy]

The body was great, the pictures if body and face we a 9. 5 in person 8. 5. To start with she showed up for the date high. We had fun, even went back to the dorm for some a strip tease and oral fun. We met the next afternoon to consummate the deal. This time she was sober but scatter brained and starving. Fed her some food and she got better. But the sex was pretty much just lay there. No affection, kissing or sounds.

I think she is perfect for someone else. But I cannot do druggies, who prefer dorm rooms over hotels, don't drive, soon to be homeless, who need lots of bedroom training and want you to spend $3000 for her school and give her cash and date.

She was pleasant to be around, was very open minded, dependable and caring. She dressed hot and at times really wanted to keep me happy. Oh and she dresses very Hott!

Found her in SA, she gives up the goodies on the first date. Very hot spinner body. British accent and easy to please. If you want more info pm me.

Sitting in a room now waiting in MsOxymoron, this will be much better.

BigTigg.

"I'd rather have a 6 three times than a 10 once"

So you banged her for a few bucks and on to the next one. Damn you got a tough life. Every reject just puts you one step closer to the next ATF. But you already know that.

[HollywoodGuy]

The Wifey. 46. AA Spinner. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her husband and I am going to get her a wedding ring so everyone knows she is taken. Seeing her one day a week. May increase to two days a week.

The Girlfriend. 26. AA Spinner (but tall. 5'7"). Exclusive to me. Seeing her one day a week.

The Little Princess. 19. AA Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive to me. She is calling me her boyfriend. Seeing her like 2 or 3 times a week.

The Live In. 22. Asian. Tiny. Non exclusive. She is still my good friend and we hookup when I am in need between regulars.

Fetish Girl. 26. Mexican. Spinner. Non exclusive. Slowly coming around. Hooked up a couple times but no intercourse yet. It has taken me a year for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week.

Stalker. 26. Armenian. Spinner. Model Looks. Exclusive. Says she will wait till every girl is gone and then marry me. LOL. Two minor hookups so far. It has taken me 9 months for her to get over my multiple girl arrangements to where she is now willing to date me. Hope to see once a week.

I have cut the interviewing process way back as I now have a full schedule. But I am interviewing a very horny MILF 37 on Sunday. Only wants wine and dine no cash.

So yes I do have a spinner fetish. Gets me up every time. I was over budget this month and could easily handle all of them for 3k a month. Trying to get back to 2k a month. This has taken a lot of time, money and experimenting to get to this point. All girls are aware of each other. Some less happy than others but all sticking to me like glue.

Averaging slightly over $ a day per visit including everything except gas. Sorry no pics at this time. Will post later when I get the time

[Colgado]

Met with my current ATF HCB for the second time this week. Our new austerity program is working well and the CPO is down to $ 125 plus recreation such as dinners and gifts. I am truly in lust with this spinner who I am learning where all her hot spots are. She is very vocal and has a beautiful Orgasmic Trill. It's nice to be appreciated again after my former HCB would lie there and grunt sotto voce. I like embarrassingly loud appreciation. It's also nice to feel that pussy contract around your dick after a rousing session after which she says OMG, OMG, OMG. LOL I know I'm bragging but you all here know what I am talking about.

I have a M&G in a few hours with an AM girl I have been back and forth with for several mos. AM is hard duty for me I must say. I have never consummated a deal there. She is an unappreciated unhappily married 30 something who appears to be a full bodied 7/7? But she might be needy in the sex dept so it could be fun. Of course there is still time to flake so I might be singing a different tune tomorrow. It's hard to improve on a 10 across the board but men being men, variety is nice. And every girl has a little different spin on these sex business. The other beauty is she is "free."

How come I don't come across deals like this? What I would give for a good and horny MILF!

[FredMoore]

Met with my current ATF HCB for the second time this week. Our new austerity program is working well and the CPO is down to $ 125 plus recreation such as dinners and gifts. I am truly in lust with this spinner who I am learning where all her hot spots are. She is very vocal and has a beautiful Orgasmic Trill. It's nice to be appreciated again after my former HCB would lie there and grunt sotto voce. I like embarrassingly loud appreciation. It's also nice to feel that pussy contract around your dick after a rousing session after which she says OMG, OMG, OMG. LOL I know I'm bragging but you all here know what I am talking about.

I have a M&G in a few hours with an AM girl I have been back and forth with for several mos. AM is hard duty for me I must say. I have never consummated a deal there. She is an unappreciated unhappily married 30 something who appears to be a full bodied 7/7? But she might be needy in the sex dept so it could be fun. Of course there is still time to flake so I might be singing a different tune tomorrow. It's hard to improve on a 10 across the board but men being men, variety is nice. And every girl has a little different spin on the sex business. The other beauty is she is "free."

[BigTigger]

The body was great, the pictures if body and face we a 9. 5 in person 8. 5. To start with she showed up for the date high. We had fun, even went back to the dorm for some a strip tease and oral fun. We met the next afternoon to consummate the deal. This time she was sober but scatter brained and starving. Fed her some food and she got better. But the sex was pretty much just lay there. No affection, kissing or sounds.

I think she is perfect for someone else. But I cannot do druggies, who prefer dorm rooms over hotels, don't drive, soon to be homeless, who need lots of bedroom training and want you to spend $3000 for her school and give her cash and date.

She was pleasant to be around, was very open minded, dependable and caring. She dressed hot and at times really wanted to keep me happy. Oh and she dresses very Hott!

Found her in SA, she gives up the goodies on the first date. Very hot spinner body. British accent and easy to please. If you want more info pm me.

Sitting in a room now waiting in MsOxymoron, this will be much better.

BigTigg.

"I'd rather have a 6 three times than a 10 once"

[LikeMike1963]

Well. It will not be long until my ATF SB will be graduating and likely moving back to her home state. Pick up on her career and certainly move forward with her life. As she should. With all that, she will be greatly missed. She has been my least expensive SB and by far the best. Really more of a PT GF. I have described our situation before on here. This transition will likely happen in about 6 weeks. Soooooo what do you do. When you fav pet dies. Oh wait. You go get a new one! . I have posted some of my techniques from my past experience but have been away from the game. I know the usual channels but wondering if anyone ever hunts on FB and your tips etc? I will add I am likely looking for another great LTF.. but this one took 10 yrs to find..lol nothing wrong with some temps though until I find what I am happy with..

Good hunting!

[F Scott]

Even free texting apps like Pinger / Textfree (which are great for the anonymity) show up on your Ipad, etc. Along with the string of messages. Even google voice does this. so if you share devices beware!!

I started with a cheap burner phone years ago and have stuck with it ever since, even though texting on it can be very similar to torture for me. If that's what it takes to get panties on the floor, I'll do it. My Sugar cell doesn't link to anything, and I always store it in the same secure place when it's not in use. As for email, as has been said, I keep a dedicated address for all my Sugar activities, and only access it via the provider's website. I never download anything, not even pics, as much as I might like to sneak a quick peak from time to time. I also make sure to log off every time, even if I'm just going to take a piss. The last thing I want is for a wandering family member to glance at the screen when I've been emailing a baby.

I know this "dual" system can be cumbersome, but it helps to promote in my mind the idea that I am under cover, and my Sugar identity is NOT my real identity

[Blak Casper]

It has been reported to me that the new iOS update has the ability to turn on iMessage to all devices that share the same apple I'd. This means all messages sent from one device will appear on all other devices that share the same apple I'd. And all messages received on the device will appear on other devices that share the apple I'd. From a COMSEC perspective this could spell disaster for you should one of your devices be outside of your control while conducting "eyes only" messaging operations.

For example, I am often asked: "Why do you need your computer, iPad and iPhone all of the time. Can't I borrow your iPad for a moment?" A moment later you receive a communication from a (ahem)"Sugar Baby" on your phone while your wife is using your iPad. One week later your wife begins a conversation with: "Are you involved with any other women?" At which point there is NO good answer as she has already told you she knows by the question alone. She then advises that: "After my attorney gets done with you, you'll have blood dripping from your ass!". This is what is known my brothers as the classic "bad scene".

Don't wind up with blood dripping from your ass! Practice OPSEC. And keep your COMSEC tight!

Even free texting apps like Pinger / Textfree (which are great for the anonymity) show up on your Ipad, etc. Along with the string of messages. Even google voice does this. so if you share devices beware!!

[Wnde8]

All depends on how they have the address. Many commercial boxes will accept deliveries like this:

Suite 405.

1234 A Nice Road.

Great Town, WT 23142.

It is really a mail box. But does not look like it.

I have even done this to a real PO box in a post office. But it was a VERY rural small office. Not sure it would work in town!

I don't understand why you guys are bringing up risk / reward here. Not to sound like a jerk but it doesn't apply to setting up a legal address correctly.

If your office was not registered as a commercial mail provider then I can see the above tactic working. But any mailbox place that's registered will not work for receiving documents as the legal address. Try it at a bank and see what happens (I have, and the banker told me my address with Apt #55 was mailbox and could only be used as the mailing address, not the legal)

[SubCmdr]

It has been reported to me that the new iOS update has the ability to turn on iMessage to all devices that share the same apple ID. This means all messages sent from one device will appear on all other devices that share the same apple ID. And all messages received on the device will appear on other devices that share the apple ID. From a COMSEC perspective this could spell disaster for you should one of your devices be outside of your control while conducting "eyes only" messaging operations.

For example, I am often asked: "Why do you need your computer, iPad and iPhone all of the time. Can't I borrow your iPad for a moment?" A moment later you receive a communication from a (ahem)"Sugar Baby" on your phone while your wife is using your iPad. One week later your wife begins a conversation with: "Are you involved with any other women?" At which point there is NO good answer as she has already told you she knows by the question alone. She then advises that: "After my attorney gets done with you, you'll have blood dripping from your ass!". This is what is known my brothers as the classic "bad scene".

Don't wind up with blood dripping from your ass! Practice OPSEC. And keep your COMSEC tight!