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  1. #4511

    Mia from Florida

    Quote Originally Posted by Richmond Mas  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the compliment. I love all the girls I met with my heart, and I know I am a sucker for beautiful girls, and I know they took advantage of me (money wise) , but if I can do anything for them and make them smile, I am happy. In life it's not always about yourself. For example when Michele was down, I honestly feel very bad for her. The little bit of cash I gave her did not help her due to other elements involved which will not be mentioned here.

    But when the payout is much higher than the return, it's time to quit and the one who loses is the one who loses a good friend. Like Kenny Roger says,"You got to know when to hold 'them, know when to fold 'them, Know when to walk away and know when to run.

    You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done"
    Mia was worth it. Her first time in Richmond, I think she is happy visiting here, she is also at the $$$ end, but worth it. Looks like she might come back.

  2. #4510

    You and I both missed a good one here in richmond- Mia

    Quote Originally Posted by David Peter  [View Original Post]
    Mas, in all honesty, I find you quite funny and generous. That's is why all the beautiful girls like you. I will try some girl in Roanoke this weekends and will share with some of you via PMs.
    Thanks for the compliment. I love all the girls I met with my heart, and I know I am a sucker for beautiful girls, and I know they took advantage of me (money wise) , but if I can do anything for them and make them smile, I am happy. In life it's not always about yourself. For example when Michele was down, I honestly feel very bad for her. The little bit of cash I gave her did not help her due to other elements involved which will not be mentioned here.

    But when the payout is much higher than the return, it's time to quit and the one who loses is the one who loses a good friend. Like Kenny Roger says,"You got to know when to hold 'them, know when to fold 'them, Know when to walk away and know when to run.
    You never count your money when you're sittin' at the table. There'll be time enough for countin' when the dealin's done"

  3. #4509

    You are funny and generous

    Quote Originally Posted by Richmond Mas  [View Original Post]
    There is nothing to warn. Of course girls like money. This is the business they are in. It's not my look they like nor my dick so big they can live without. I pay my women well in return they treat me well. I violated one of my own escorting rules and that's never see the same person more than twice. If you do, you need to space it out, so they won't get too use to you.

    This 22YO girl has a lot of potential and then there are dozens of them out there if you want. The magic word is Old "Ben".
    Mas, in all honesty, I find you quite funny and generous. That's is why all the beautiful girls like you. I will try some girl in Roanoke this weekends and will share with some of you via PMs.

  4. #4508

    Dude, I see your point.

    Quote Originally Posted by RichmondDude  [View Original Post]
    Maybe you make ALOT more money than some of us. Or not from the same neck of the woods. Some people will buy brand name food for much higher price than the EXACT same product (generic) beside it, there are, and always be deals out there. Best deal I've seen since I been I 804, is Leigh, Lilani. (her name is neither one actually). Body to die for, price great. Very accomadating, scatter brained maybe, but well worth it, all I'm saying is for ME. Haven't PAID 300. Nor will I ever. Shoot I'd just as well have a SB for those prices!
    They said, seek and you shall find. I think I am not seeking enough. I am very low volume, so I can afford to pay more. Not that I am wealthier than anyone. I am not.

    I understand the equity concept and adhere to it if at all possible. Since time is my enemy, I go with what I see and I just buy. I do not window shop.

  5. #4507
    Quote Originally Posted by David Peter  [View Original Post]
    I know Mr. Wolfe will criticize that I am a woman hater (in which I am not). But I have to say it again. These young girls are girls of money. They come to you by money, then they leave you by money. If you want them to stay longer, don't spoil them with too much money, let them in a condition of money starving, then they will treat you like king. Once they are fulfilled with money, they treats you like shit. All I can say is to wish you a good look with another more professional young girl.
    There is nothing to warn. Of course girls like money. This is the business they are in. It's not my look they like nor my dick so big they can live without. I pay my women well in return they treat me well. I violated one of my own escorting rules and that's never see the same person more than twice. If you do, you need to space it out, so they won't get too use to you.

    With all these being said, I loss nothing, just a few bucks for the girl's company. She did provided the services, but just got too sloppy. Provided a quick HJ and won't do this and won't do that this time. It's all good and I have no remorse toward this girl. I am just the customer who never come back. Same as going to a restaurant, like what you eat, and you will go back. Don't like what you got, you will not return. Actually is her loss. Say if she would have treated me well, I would go back again and again like a fool and chunk another G in her pocket. I know she can make it off of

    This 22YO girl has a lot of potential and then there are dozens of them out there if you want. The magic word is Old "Ben".

  6. #4506

    Did I warn you guys this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Richmond Mas  [View Original Post]
    Ahh, Wolfe, you took it the wrong way. It was phased as a question but meant to be an encomium of your vast knowledge. I personally consider you the doyen of the group and there is no intention to scrutinize into your financial affair. That being said, let's drop the subject and leave it at that.

    As for the 22Yo beauty, she is off my list and some lucky guys can take my spot. After 6 visits and 2 Gs later in 2 weeks she had became complacent. I am a low profile, low volume hobbyist and do not seek reasons to understand why it is so. She put a lot of attention on her meetings thus creates an exciting and sensual experience for some and to me as well. Also I had received almost 100 inquires and gave out many contact info that she can live off without worrying too much now on her income. This is the classic example of the Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Once the basic level of needs are fulfilled, people tend to seek another level of fulfillment and the survival instant is ignored.

    She is what she is. There is no compunction in this business, and it is time to move on. As for Holly, she took me for 3 Bens last week without any repayment plan. But I am glad I was able to help this beauty even though I was taken like a sucker should. They said a fool and his money will soon part, and I am one when it comes to girls.
    I know Mr. Wolfe will criticize that I am a woman hater (in which I am not). But I have to say it again. These young girls are girls of money. They come to you by money, then they leave you by money. If you want them to stay longer, don't spoil them with too much money, let them in a condition of money starving, then they will treat you like king. Once they are fulfilled with money, they treats you like shit. All I can say is to wish you a good look with another more professional young girl.

  7. #4505

    Dough follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by TomWolfe1925  [View Original Post]
    Wow, pretty personal and a bit presumptuous, Mr. Mas, but I realize 'inquiring minds like to know'. I get 99% of it from an ATM, and the rest by searching underneath the cushions of furniture in friends' homes. And by the way, also 'off subject', I thought the 22YO beauty had replaced Holly as your ATF? Wut up wit dat?
    Ahh, Wolfe, you took it the wrong way. It was phased as a question but meant to be an encomium of your vast knowledge. I personally consider you the doyen of the group and there is no intention to scrutinize into your financial affair. That being said, let's drop the subject and leave it at that.

    As for the 22Yo beauty, she is off my list and some lucky guys can take my spot. After 6 visits and 2 Gs later in 2 weeks she had became complacent. I am a low profile, low volume hobbyist and do not seek reasons to understand why it is so. She put a lot of attention on her meetings thus creates an exciting and sensual experience for some and to me as well. Also I had received almost 100 inquires and gave out many contact info that she can live off without worrying too much now on her income. This is the classic example of the Abraham Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Once the basic level of needs are fulfilled, people tend to seek another level of fulfillment and the survival instant is ignored.

    She is what she is. There is no compunction in this business, and it is time to move on. As for Holly, she took me for 3 Bens last week without any repayment plan. But I am glad I was able to help this beauty even though I was taken like a sucker should. They said a fool and his money will soon part, and I am one when it comes to girls.

  8. #4504

    Won't dissagree

    Quote Originally Posted by Richmond Mas  [View Original Post]
    There is not a lot of GFE good looking girls out there. The ones who is very good looking tends to be non-GFE. So I personally pay more like 3 for a nice looking girl who provide true GFE. I don't know if it is me or not, but I just cannot find any good ones by paying under 3.

    I do want to add this though. Once you start paying 3 these girls wise up fast and they know you keep coming back and they will want more. I have not sampled as many girls as Wolfe, but the ones I visited, I paid dearly. I don't mind paying as long as I get what I wanted. I would even pay 5 if they are worth my squeeze.

    Let me give you an example. My all time favorite is Holly from the Danielle Dynasty who is no longer in business. I am sure some of you lucky folks have sampled her. If she comes up to me today and says 5, I might do it. When I saw her I paid 3 when the asking price was 2. 5. She said she paid. 75 for the hotel room and a percentage to the agency, so some time she would get only 1 from the deal. I don't know, if I can meet girls in this quality, I will pay.

    Like for example, I have a bunch of coins in my pocket these days, and hell, I cannot even find one who will provide me a true GFE with the looks even if I am willing to pay.
    Maybe you make ALOT more money than some of us. Or not from the same neck of the woods. Some people will buy brand name food for much higher price than the EXACT same product (generic) beside it, there are, and always be deals out there. Best deal I've seen since I been I 804, is Leigh, Lilani. (her name is neither one actually). Body to die for, price great. Very accomadating, scatter brained maybe, but well worth it, all I'm saying is for ME. Haven't PAID 300. Nor will I ever. Shoot I'd just as well have a SB for those prices!

  9. #4503

    The Going GFE Rate with 8+ Looks

    $$$ is the going rate for GFE / GFE+ with a 8+ (in looks) in my experience. So, I travel a lot to large and medium size cities. I do lots of research and choose a PROVEN GFE SP who has good service reviews or references, is 7-8+ in looks. I always pay $$.5-$$$.5 for that based on the city I am in. In Phoenix, where the competition is high, you can get a 9+ looking SP who will provide GFE+ for $$.5 (see phxgirls). LA or Chicago will be a little more. Richmond is cheaper that most. Also, to clarify, my definition of GFE is LFK / DFK and BBBJ and DATY. GFE+ might include a CIM or DATO or something a little extra. BTW I hate cities where competition is weak and the SPs limit services like CBJ or no DATY. If an SP in a good market didn't provide BBBJ or DATY she would be out of business in a week. We are paying to * you not just look at you. And yes, Richmond is generally a * market for SPs.

  10. #4502
    Quote Originally Posted by TomWolfe1925  [View Original Post]
    Wow, pretty personal and a bit presumptuous, Mr. Mas, but I realize 'inquiring minds like to know'. I get 99% of it from an ATM, and the rest by searching underneath the cushions of furniture in friends' homes. And by the way, also 'off subject', I thought the 22YO beauty had replaced Holly as your ATF? Wut up wit dat?
    Very funny Tom.

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    Dough

    Quote Originally Posted by Richmond Mas  [View Original Post]
    Wolfe, off subject question for you. Where do you get all these dough to see all these people. There is no one you don't see. That's a lot of cash. I can cough out some, but hell this is like weekly you are doing more than 1 or two.
    Wow, pretty personal and a bit presumptuous, Mr. Mas, but I realize 'inquiring minds like to know'. I get 99% of it from an ATM, and the rest by searching underneath the cushions of furniture in friends' homes. And by the way, also 'off subject', I thought the 22YO beauty had replaced Holly as your ATF? Wut up wit dat?

  12. #4500
    Quote Originally Posted by Wanderer01  [View Original Post]
    As I sit here thinking about the rising cost that these providers charge, I then thought about the expenses that the girls incurs. For the local ones, it would be just the hotel room and advertising cost, and makes alot of profit. But for the ones that travel, their expenses goes up significantly. For example, plane ticket (esp from California) , baggage fees, hotel room and rent a car, food expenses, backpage expenses. So this can run into $1000 of dollars. So is it that the girls that travel takes a chance that they will get enough clients to cover expenses as well as make a living? I can see the ones who have a regular client base but the new ones that are taking the chances.

    So should the local girls charge much less then the girls that are travelling. Should we be paying the higher cost for the local girls? I may be incline to pay more for the girls that are travelling so that we can see new faces and continue to encourage others to come to Richmond.

    Maybe it is just my thinking.
    Who cares what their expenses are. They visit an area if they feel they can make money in that location, otherwise they don't visit the city. So in a way they are already targeting your pockets.

  13. #4499

    I really don't know Dude

    Quote Originally Posted by RichmondDude  [View Original Post]
    But I will not pay 300 for any woman. Way too many out there, to over pay. I mean if I made 500k a yr maybe then, to many decent girls out there to over pay these over rated prices. But if some guys pay them that, they keep asking, and you can't do this, can't do that, oh I don't do that I go to Vegas 1-3 times yr. Great looking women out there, and get the best out there for 200. Guess the 300 a hr. Girls around here don't know about this economy. And I see a few girls, and usually pay around. 8.150, depends, and usually get discount next time. (if there is one) because I ask for one. But thats just me, we all got our ways.
    There is not a lot of GFE good looking girls out there. The ones who is very good looking tends to be non-GFE. So I personally pay more like 3 for a nice looking girl who provide true GFE. I don't know if it is me or not, but I just cannot find any good ones by paying under 3.

    I do want to add this though. Once you start paying 3 these girls wise up fast and they know you keep coming back and they will want more. I have not sampled as many girls as Wolfe, but the ones I visited, I paid dearly. I don't mind paying as long as I get what I wanted. I would even pay 5 if they are worth my squeeze.

    Let me give you an example. My all time favorite is Holly from the Danielle Dynasty who is no longer in business. I am sure some of you lucky folks have sampled her. If she comes up to me today and says 5, I might do it. When I saw her I paid 3 when the asking price was 2.5. she said she paid .75 for the hotel room and a percentage to the agency, so some time she would get only 1 from the deal. I don't know, if I can meet girls in this quality, I will pay.

    Like for example, I have a bunch of coins in my pocket these days, and hell, I cannot even find one who will provide me a true GFE with the looks even if I am willing to pay.

  14. #4498

  15. #4497

    Expenses

    As I sit here thinking about the rising cost that these providers charge, I then thought about the expenses that the girls incurs. For the local ones, it would be just the hotel room and advertising cost, and makes alot of profit. But for the ones that travel, their expenses goes up significantly. For example, plane ticket (esp from California) , baggage fees, hotel room and rent a car, food expenses, backpage expenses. So this can run into $1000 of dollars. So is it that the girls that travel takes a chance that they will get enough clients to cover expenses as well as make a living? I can see the ones who have a regular client base but the new ones that are taking the chances.

    So should the local girls charge much less then the girls that are travelling. Should we be paying the higher cost for the local girls? I may be incline to pay more for the girls that are travelling so that we can see new faces and continue to encourage others to come to Richmond.

    Maybe it is just my thinking.

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