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  1. #6592
    If you have been in a place 20 times and are not getting what you want, go elsewhere. That is what I do. Kinda frustrating to read about someone scoring and then not getting anywhere yourself. Been there, done that.

    As an aside I've cleared my pm box.

  2. #6591
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabsauv1997  [View Original Post]
    Not to be too difficult, and I know this is my first post, but I find this hard to believe. I've been to this place a bunch of times (more than 20) for, believe it or not, just a damn good massage, and despite more than a few not-so-subtle hints, there is nothing to be had. I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed."

    YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.
    You just did not draw the right therapist. That's all it is at this place.

  3. #6590
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood2  [View Original Post]
    Why? Why would a raid lower service quality?
    Well they are going to be more cautious about which services to offer you. They might just do massages only. No extras. I've noticed this in the past.

  4. #6589

    YMMV Dilemma

    Quote Originally Posted by Cabsauv1997; 1606732.
    I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed." YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    You may be declined extras based on a variety of reasons but I would think these are the top three reasons for a provider to not give additional services:

    1.) you look like LE (e. G. Buzz cut or short cropped hair)

    2.) they just don't find you attractive (e. G. Bad breath, bad body odor, etc.)

    3.) you are of a ethnicity that they don't like and thus would probably don't think it's worth the effort to service you
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood2  [View Original Post]
    All true. Especially number 2. Many of you have it and don't know it.

    Also, add to that 4) bad attitude
    Welcome to the board, Cabsauv. If none of the above attributes are appropriate in your case, I suggest you try a full service provider from Backpage. A professional provider will generally be more candid about pointing out any significant personal flaws that might be a problem.

  5. #6588
    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    You may be declined extras based on a variety of reasons but I would think these are the top three reasons for a provider to not give additional services:

    1.) you look like LE (e. G. Buzz cut or short cropped hair)

    2.) they just don't find you attractive (e. G. Bad breath, bad body odor, etc.)

    3.) you are of a ethnicity that they don't like and thus would probably don't think it's worth the effort to service you
    All true. Especially number 2. Many of you have it and don't know it.

    Also, add to that 4) bad attitude

  6. #6587
    Quote Originally Posted by AKFourtySeven  [View Original Post]
    Well of course they suck. Weren't they raided last spring and summer?

    Usually service goes down after a raid.
    Why? Why would a raid lower service quality?

  7. #6586
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabsauv1997  [View Original Post]
    Not to be too difficult, and I know this is my first post, but I find this hard to believe. I've been to this place a bunch of times (more than 20) for, believe it or not, just a damn good massage, and despite more than a few not-so-subtle hints, there is nothing to be had. I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed."

    YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.
    You may be declined extras based on a variety of reasons but I would think these are the top three reasons for a provider to not give additional services:

    1.) you look like LE (e. G. Buzz cut or short cropped hair)

    2.) they just don't find you attractive (e. G. Bad breath, bad body odor, etc.)

    3.) you are of a ethnicity that they don't like and thus would probably don't think it's worth the effort to service you

  8. #6585

    Go west my boy

    I checked out a spot in Loudoun, in the same complex where mongers use to go to be treated like a "king". Those who have been around will know the meaning of that. Anyway, lower level spot, advertising 60 / hr. The ad says there is a shower but I was not offered one. No biggie, I took one before visiting and it was nice to save the extra 20 for something else. Provider was fairly young, maybe in her 30s, I think Chinese, average looking, nothing to get all excited about. No one else was around to choose from. Started off with light massage and excellent long lasting std. Nova with some liberal roaming. Very good massage afterwards. I was allotted the 1 hr. I will make this my main place to go just because of the rate and for a quick AMP fix. Because it's getting cold outside, I think visiting this place at night is fine, the wannabe gangbanger illegals that sometimes hang around in the area don't come out when it gets below 60 degrees anyway. I gave her 50 for tip.

    Vetted members can PM for details. I did not get the provider's name as that she was the only one in there.

  9. #6584
    Quote Originally Posted by The Nub  [View Original Post]
    I left very happy, and I would repeat.
    Not to be too difficult, and I know this is my first post, but I find this hard to believe. I've been to this place a bunch of times (more than 20) for, believe it or not, just a damn good massage, and despite more than a few not-so-subtle hints, there is nothing to be had. I've gone to multiple therapists too and each one of them has said something to the effect of "not allowed."

    YMMV, but this kind of sucks because on the one hand, I don't want them to get busted due to the excellent legit service. On the other hand if they are more accomodating, I'd like to know what the hell I'm doing wrong.

  10. #6583

    RE: Herndon AMPs

    Well of course they suck. Weren't they raided last spring and summer?

    Usually service goes down after a raid.

  11. #6582

    Herndon AMP

    Went to a spot in Herndon on the pkwy of the same name. Agent was late 30's early 40's and wasn't very service orientated. TS was mild at best, massage was nothing to write about and the ending was almost clinical in how she went about her business. Didn't seem to want to be touched even when she replied it was okay. Only got her name, Candy, and her asking me repeatedly how many times I've been to the location.

    Damage was. 8 plus. 4. She got even worse when I wouldn't increase my tip. Plus, I was out in 50 minutes. The previous agent on my last visit was 1000 times better and I informed her as much. I don't think I'll visit here any more as it seems like things are getting worse for a player. Better to save up and visit a decent BP girl or Eros / agency one that has great reviews and you receive your money's worth of attention.

    As always, stay safe and watch your 6.

  12. #6581

    Herndon AMPs suck

    Quote Originally Posted by Propilot  [View Original Post]
    Buddy you have spoken the truth. In my opinion, most of the AMP girls that work at these places act like they are doing you a big favor by doing their job. Most have a so-so attitude, the massage is lackluster and they barely want to touch you. Then they give you a very mechanical finish. After they finish they want a big tip and most will get upset if the tip is not big enough. As you stated the service provided is so not worth the money, so I have cut down my patronage to the Virginia AMPs by 90 percent.

    Every once in a while, you will get a girl that is personable and is has not yet been tainted or jaded. These girls are few and far between. For me it is not cost effective to go to an AMP ten times and only once get a beautiful girl with a very nice attitude and quality service. I can save the money from the other nine times and take a weekend trip once a month or every other month to the Philadelphia AMPs. I will have a better service and attitude from the girls and return with money in my pocket.

    Propilot-Always check your six.
    Found myself in Herndon on Sundays. Went to RTC. Mid 30's provider. Very mechanical. Didn't smile. No roaming around chest allowed. Lame. Standard finish. 60 plus 30 Tip.

    Last weekend tried RAT. 2 Providers. One busty late 40's. Terrible massage. Roaming allowed. Made faces. In light of her faces, tried to aim my wad at her. Missed. 60 plus 40 tip. Wanted 60. Told me I was her first customer at 4:30 pm.

    My opinion is like others, you need to get backpage asian girl or go to Philly to get a hot under 30 Asian provider. These grannys are too jaded. My next trip to Thailand in scheduled for July where I am treated like Mick Jagger and Brad Pitt.

  13. #6580
    Quote Originally Posted by Hollywood2  [View Original Post]
    WHo took care of you? Joana?
    Pola (sp?) first time, Kim second time. Pola was more conversational but not excessive, Kim was quiet but allowed more roaming and included prostate check. Massage by both was great.

  14. #6579

    NOVA and Ruby A/K/A MWC

    I have had consistently a great time or at worst a good time at MWC now Ruby's Wellness Center.

    There was a young provider there I posted about in the past, who was there from 2009 to early 2011. So awesome. So young. So hot. Extensive menu and all readily available without asking once for $$. I think her name was Cindy, but it will come back to me. Then she was gone (out of country for good) and replaced by Young. Very similar but not quite as good.

    In the last couple of months, I have seen a few different girls. All older and less accommodating than Cindy, but still better than most parts of the country.

    I would definitely give this place another try before writing off all of NOVA as dead.

  15. #6578

    True.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Nub  [View Original Post]
    Nova is dead for AMP hobbling. 4 BUT, NoVa is dead in the sense that our average therapist is in her late 50's, there is simply no new blood coming to our area. Most therapists don't even seem to put much effort into their work, and it's very hard to find one that will do both parts of the service very well. If you want a younger therapists you have to look at the Latin or Russian massage studios, but they always upsell big time, massage will be completely lackluster and you will be in and out the door in under half the time you paid for, so to me they are not worth my money.
    Buddy you have spoken the truth. In my opinion, most of the AMP girls that work at these places act like they are doing you a big favor by doing their job. Most have a so-so attitude, the massage is lackluster and they barely want to touch you. Then they give you a very mechanical finish. After they finish they want a big tip and most will get upset if the tip is not big enough. As you stated the service provided is so not worth the money, so I have cut down my patronage to the Virginia AMPs by 90 percent.

    Every once in a while, you will get a girl that is personable and is has not yet been tainted or jaded. These girls are few and far between. For me it is not cost effective to go to an AMP ten times and only once get a beautiful girl with a very nice attitude and quality service. I can save the money from the other nine times and take a weekend trip once a month or every other month to the Philadelphia AMPs. I will have a better service and attitude from the girls and return with money in my pocket.

    Propilot-Always check your six.

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