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  1. #3635

    Then use a reference

    If your not willing to give out your info, then use a reference from another escort. I give referrals to clients even when I haven't seen them in months. If a lady doesn't require screening or references then she has spend all day, telling every guy who calls her location. As far as your Walmart comment it doesn't even make sense, if a girl charges just 100 bucks she has to see 2 or 3 clients just to pay for her hotel and travel expenses, so they have to see tons of guys to make a profit. Low volume providers like myself only see a few clients a week. Many clients don't want to see a girl that has already seen 5 to 10 guys the same day.

    Some of us have a bit more standards then the others, and provide A QUALITY EXPERIENCE. We also value our personal safety, and are well aware there is a serial killer that has buried and buried 10 escorts in Gilgo Beach in NY. I think its disturbing that you don't care about the escorts safety or your own. I bet every guy that ends up with his name in the newspaper, picked some girl that asked no questions or for a reference.

    To each their own, I guess some of us Gal's are not as desperate as others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gansett  [View Original Post]
    So a high volume provider charges less in order to see more clients to make the same amount. Really? They're not sitting on a WalMart where the profit margin is made on volume sales. I enjoy mature, in-shape women. Chasing a nipple into a armpit kinda turns me off.

    As for references, I'm not giving my personal info to you or any other provider. Are you going to give me yours so I can screen you? Doubtful.

  2. #3634
    Glad to see the high activity post in this thread.

  3. #3633

    Mitch

    I struck out at Tansmart, and left horny, so I called Mitch's friend and she was able to accompany me on a short notice. She did not disappoint, she is everything mitch says, if you want info you will have to contact him.

  4. #3632
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1384
    Quote Originally Posted by MuffyTheDiver  [View Original Post]
    Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security.
    Muff is right, a provider rarely leaves her room. Although I have had them come to the back door of a hotel to let me in but there was no discussion until in the room. The same goes for SW'er, a decoy won't get in your vehicle. Too risky.

    Incall is riskier then outcall IMHO. I know my neighbors and wonder what they would think seeing a different girl show up, sometimes two or three girls a day, then leave after a hour or so day after day at my home.

  5. #3631

    Reviews are the only way to go.

    That really is the beauty of this site and another site. Anyone that goes by pictures on BP can get in some big trouble. One time I thought I was in a jam in Warwick and I actually was asked by the front desk who I was visting. I made up a name, faked a call and split. I actually cased the place for a while at a distance. The girl had good reviews on another site. She called me and asked what was up. I told her and she still wanted to meet. Little head was thinking and I had her walk to my car and went for a BJ.

    Quote Originally Posted by MuffyTheDiver  [View Original Post]
    Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security. Always be aware of interconnecting rooms in Hotels, check the lock and insure its locked between the rooms, If its not get your ass out of the room but you can almost be sure if you start to go towards that door to lock it your going to get stormed by the waiting crowd in the other room if its a sting!

    My feelings about the typical LE check is that it is worthless and you will end up in cuffs either way regardless of where or what you grab or feel!

    If your already in the Hotel room and they are set up for a sting and you go to grab the girls tits or feel her up you can guarantee the cops are running in and throwing your ass to the floor and cuffing you! Doesn't matter how much you insist you were only there for a chat with the girl, your going down, its their word against yours and their going to win that battle 99% of the time.

    The working girls do it as it makes sense for them because no "Good" cop is going to let her grab his balls, I know some girls who will go right into a BJ as soon as you walk in the door, then if you let them continue the passing of money happens. But for us guys to be grabbing a girl and feeling her up as a "Cop Check" is not going to do anything but land your ass in jail if it is in fact a sting!

    I'm talking about doing your "Due Diligence" and researching the girl before you ever step foot in the door to see her. Look for reviews from reliable guys who have reviewd many, do a google search with her phone number, you would be surprised at how much info is out there. I personally will never see a "New" girl who has no reviews or any searchable info online, just wayyyyyy to risky for me and also I don't want to waste my time or money on a scam girl or a girl who does not offer the level of service I want. If you follow these rules you should never have to worry about doing a "Cop Check" at all. Leave the "Cop Checks" to the girl you are seeing.

  6. #3630
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1384
    Quote Originally Posted by GinaInTheMorni  [View Original Post]
    Many of these girls are high volume providers, and this is why they have low rates and do not even bother to get references or screen. Many will agree to anything on the phone and then they disappoint and rush the client out the door. If a girl is going to scam you, don't you think she will lie to you first, just to lure you in. When a provider does not ask for references nor does she require screening, this means she tells every guy that calls her, exactly where she is located and says "come right over". So don't be surprised when the cops are waiting and detain you as you are leaving one of these locations. If a women does not care about her own personal safety, do you really think she cares about yours, or the service she provides.

    I have been told by clients that they love mature women, they are treated with respect, they enjoy pillow talk and cuddling and the non rush service, but its real hard to get this type of service with a 1/2 hr appointment, or a girl that has low rates.

    Escorts spend 200 to 300 a day, between hotels, gas, and advertising, so when a girl only charges 100 bucks, she has to see at least 2 or 3 clients just to break even, most of these girls will see 10 clients a day, and then you guys wonder why they won't give you their full attention and why they rush you out the door.

    Quality companionship usually comes from a provider who only see's a few clients a week, and while all of us have our own personal boundaries and may we willing to do somethings with some people and not with others, and while some clients like to complaint hat she wouldn't do this or that, sometimes its because the man has bad hygiene. We are not blow up dolls, you paid for our TIME not for a specific sex act.
    So a high volume provider charges less in order to see more clients to make the same amount. Really? They're not sitting on a WalMart where the profit margin is made on volume sales. I enjoy mature, in-shape women. Chasing a nipple into a armpit kinda turns me off.

    As for references, I'm not giving my personal info to you or any other provider. Are you going to give me yours so I can screen you? Doubtful.

  7. #3629

    Stings

    Quote Originally Posted by TapThePie  [View Original Post]
    Muffy can you recommend any security checks one can do not to fall into such a trap.

    I had one provider show me her breast in the hallway before we went into her room, I did that because I had noticed a black&white sitting next door.
    Thats a good way to insure she is not part of a sting but most of the time an LE girl is not going to come out of the room to fetch you, just too risky for them to be walking around away from their security. Always be aware of interconnecting rooms in Hotels, check the lock and insure its locked between the rooms, If its not get your ass out of the room but you can almost be sure if you start to go towards that door to lock it your going to get stormed by the waiting crowd in the other room if its a sting!

    My feelings about the typical LE check is that it is worthless and you will end up in cuffs either way regardless of where or what you grab or feel!

    If your already in the Hotel room and they are set up for a sting and you go to grab the girls tits or feel her up you can guarantee the cops are running in and throwing your ass to the floor and cuffing you! Doesn't matter how much you insist you were only there for a chat with the girl, your going down, its their word against yours and their going to win that battle 99% of the time.

    The working girls do it as it makes sense for them because no "Good" cop is going to let her grab his balls, I know some girls who will go right into a BJ as soon as you walk in the door, then if you let them continue the passing of money happens. But for us guys to be grabbing a girl and feeling her up as a "Cop Check" is not going to do anything but land your ass in jail if it is in fact a sting!

    I'm talking about doing your "Due Diligence" and researching the girl before you ever step foot in the door to see her. Look for reviews from reliable guys who have reviewd many, do a google search with her phone number, you would be surprised at how much info is out there. I personally will never see a "New" girl who has no reviews or any searchable info online, just wayyyyyy to risky for me and also I don't want to waste my time or money on a scam girl or a girl who does not offer the level of service I want. If you follow these rules you should never have to worry about doing a "Cop Check" at all. Leave the "Cop Checks" to the girl you are seeing.

  8. #3628
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1384
    One thing you can do is stick with a known provider who has reviews. Another is seeing a provider recommended by another monger here or in a pm / email.

    There is always a risk and always will be, there are no guarantees. That provider you're going back to see for the umpteenth time or the one with a solid gold rep might have been nabbed the night before. In many cases she doesn't have much to lose, you do. I've always believed that in order to save her ass it'll be mine in the sling.

  9. #3627

    Recommendations for not falling into the trap

    Quote Originally Posted by MuffyTheDiver  [View Original Post]
    Just wanted to give a little refresher on how we all need to be much more careful and aware of the risks of this hobby. Lately there seems to be a big influx of "New" girls in the area, just a quick search on BP will bring up dozens of girls who are unfamiliar to our area, they may have out of town phone numbers or even local numbers. After researching on google (which you should always do) you find little to no information, no reviews or anything else on this girl. Its almost as if she suddenly appeared from the heavens! Usually the pics are of a very attractive woman and the pics are professionally done. I always wonder how such an attractive woman who has Pro pictures displayed can exist in this profession without at least having some verifiable info online or have reviews on the review sites. To me this is a HUGE red flag, if I can't find anything online other then the girls BP ads and she seems TGTBT then I stay away, no matter how much little muffy wants to run to see her! I'm seeing most of these mystery girls working out of the Warwick hotels, so just be ultra aware of whom you decide to see!

    I'm only brining this information up due to the fact that our little fucked up state has decided to go after our beloved hobby with a passion, not only are they closing the AMPs but they will be also working hard to slow the BP and escort trade. There will be stings coming, could even be a real working girl working for LE, just be careful out there, times have changed here in RI, its not the wild west it use to be! (you've been warned!)

    Muffy
    Muffy can you recommend any security checks one can do not to fall into such a trap.

    I had one provider show me her breast in the hallway before we went into her room, I did that because I had noticed a black&white sitting next door.

  10. #3626

    Public Service Anouncement

    Just wanted to give a little refresher on how we all need to be much more careful and aware of the risks of this hobby. Lately there seems to be a big influx of "New" girls in the area, just a quick search on BP will bring up dozens of girls who are unfamiliar to our area, they may have out of town phone numbers or even local numbers. After researching on google (which you should always do) you find little to no information, no reviews or anything else on this girl. Its almost as if she suddenly appeared from the heavens! Usually the pics are of a very attractive woman and the pics are professionally done. I always wonder how such an attractive woman who has Pro pictures displayed can exist in this profession without at least having some verifiable info online or have reviews on the review sites. To me this is a HUGE red flag, if I can't find anything online other then the girls BP ads and she seems TGTBT then I stay away, no matter how much little muffy wants to run to see her! I'm seeing most of these mystery girls working out of the Warwick hotels, so just be ultra aware of whom you decide to see!

    I'm only brining this information up due to the fact that our little fucked up state has decided to go after our beloved hobby with a passion, not only are they closing the AMPs but they will be also working hard to slow the BP and escort trade. There will be stings coming, could even be a real working girl working for LE, just be careful out there, times have changed here in RI, its not the wild west it use to be! (you've been warned!)

    Muffy

  11. #3625

    High volume Vs low volume

    Quote Originally Posted by Stressed Out  [View Original Post]
    And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.

    Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO
    Many of these girls are high volume providers, and this is why they have low rates and do not even bother to get references or screen. Many will agree to anything on the phone and then they disappoint and rush the client out the door. If a girl is going to scam you, don't you think she will lie to you first, just to lure you in. When a provider does not ask for references nor does she require screening, this means she tells every guy that calls her, exactly where she is located and says "come right over". So don't be surprised when the cops are waiting and detain you as you are leaving one of these locations. If a women does not care about her own personal safety, do you really think she cares about yours, or the service she provides.

    I have been told by clients that they love mature women, they are treated with respect, they enjoy pillow talk and cuddling and the non rush service, but its real hard to get this type of service with a 1/2 hr appointment, or a girl that has low rates.

    Escorts spend 200 to 300 a day, between hotels, gas, and advertising, so when a girl only charges 100 bucks, she has to see at least 2 or 3 clients just to break even, most of these girls will see 10 clients a day, and then you guys wonder why they won't give you their full attention and why they rush you out the door.

    Quality companionship usually comes from a provider who only see's a few clients a week, and while all of us have our own personal boundaries and may we willing to do somethings with some people and not with others, and while some clients like to complaint hat she wouldn't do this or that, sometimes its because the man has bad hygiene. We are not blow up dolls, you paid for our TIME not for a specific sex act.

  12. #3624

    Something About Them?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knight62  [View Original Post]
    I do miss the Korean girls though there was just something about them.
    Could it be their tight thin bodies, or their willingness to please, or their tight thin bodies, or their beautiful faces, or their tight thin bodies, or their flirty language, or maybe just their tight thin bodies. At any rate, I agree, there is something about them.

  13. #3623
    Quote Originally Posted by Stressed Out  [View Original Post]
    And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.

    Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO
    1000 posts, wow. I'll be in my 80's before I reach that mark. Congratualtions Gansett.

    S. O. I'm with you on this one. I'm also one who likes to cuddle and talk. Always have and always will. I was an AMP guy and I have to say I was with some great girls who also liked to cuddle, kiss, talk. I always stayed with the same one until they were gone. Most of the one's I met were usually referrals. I haven't been with a lot of different providers over the last 5 years because of reading about guys getting ripped off, or girls not being what they advertised as. I can't get away from SO as much as I like or have that extra cash to get burned. I'm with a provider now that is in MY estimation the best GFE experience I've had. I just like being with her. I see her every couple weeks and look forward to it.

    I do miss the Korean girls though there was just something about them.

  14. #3622

    And that's exactly why I see you

    Quote Originally Posted by Deb4512  [View Original Post]
    To me an hour is an hour. This is supposed to be a customer service based business and if providers looked at it that way, they would get lots of repeat clientele like I have. BTW, I like to cuddle and talk. I think escorting and meeting the guys is fun, but then I only provide part-time, because I have a full-time career and have only been doing it on and off since 2008, so maybe I'm not burnt out yet. Actually as time goes on I like it more and more. Sex work isn't exactly new to me, because I used to be a stripper, so you think I'd be burnt out by now LOL.
    And that attitude is exactly why I have been enjoying your company for the past few years. Most guys are into it for the sex act and not the companionship. Just look at the reviews a lot of guys post. I got covered instead of BB. She only liked one position. She didn't swallow. I couldn't touch this or that. She didn't do this or didn't like that. Yadiyadiya. And that isn't to say that there is anything wrong with that. Some girls just don't have the predisposition, skill or apptitude to be anything other than cockpits. As you posted they need to feed a habit or something else money driven. The issue with these ladies is when they promise something and they don't do it but accept the money. If your not going to do it then just don't promise it.

    Maybe it is just age. Maybe it is being jaded as you said but as you very well know when we get together it is all about the conversation, pillow talk and cuddle time. As 'dumb and farfetched' as this will sound to many out there. We have spent many a time just talking and cuddling and when we kiss goodbye that is about as close as we get to the 'act'. But it is time well spent. SO

  15. #3621

    Congrats

    Quote Originally Posted by Gansett  [View Original Post]
    You're right Deb, but unfortunately the business model has become get'them in, get'them off, get'them out NEXT as there will always be another to take the place of a client who leaves feeling they were short changed.

    I'm not a fan of tats but a small butterfly or flower doesn't bother me too much. But when a beautiful breast has a former (?) boyfriends name,"sleeves" and legs, back and belly covered in them it's a turn off for me.

    Wait until they get the tramp stamp they have in Chinese translated and find it's 'beef w / brocoli' or my favorite 'thank you, cum again' [grin]
    Hey G. Congrats on hitting the 1000 mark. Glad to be a fiend of yours and thanks for all the tips, info and help all these years. SO

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