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  1. #4805

    Destruction of records

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    The self destruct works by overwriting the entire drive with 0's, which makes it unrecoverable by any means.
    Hi Nyx,

    While in general I respect your opinions, this post is out of line. I work in the computer field and know for a fact that such destruct programs make drives difficult, but certainly not impossible, to recover. However, even if it could work the way you say, what makes you think if the police kick your door in that you're going to be able to get to your computer, invoke a destruction program, and have it run to completion? A better plan would be to toss the drive into a hot fire, or a 500+ degree oven, or quickly smash it with a hammer, or even toss it into a garbage disposal and grind it up, but again, what makes you think the police would allow you to do that once they'd burst in, or if they arrested you when you were not home, or many other scenarios that I can think of? Sorry, but the erasure of a drive, in almost all cases of LEO intervention, is impossible. I have friends in jail who can attest to that.

    Even if you hardware encrypt the drive (such as an Apricorn Padlock) , a judge will simply order you to decrypt it, and if you don't, will add all sorts of penalties that he could levy without a trial, including years of prison time. No one has ever failed to unlock their hard drive under these circumstances. How do you think pedophiles get caught? Surely you realize that most of them go to great efforts to hide their illegal images with some very advanced techniques. I have a friend who works with Perverted Justice who has nevertheless sent more than a dozen of those scumbags to jail with their hidden images fully revealed. Heck, if police really wanted to get your data they'd just infect your computer with a trojan and take the data themselves.

    Any talk of protecting your client list is just that. Talk. Bear in mind I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming that we completely and absolutely trust you in every way never to blackmail us, because once you have our personal info we're in serious trouble if you decide to misuse it. That one I wouldn't put on you because you have friends on this board that I do trust like HH. If he trusts you, I do too. But you don't have the kind of control you say you have over the data.

    Does anyone here recall Elliot Spitzer, the infamous "client 9" former governor of New York State? He was sure verified, the poor fool.

    If people don't mind the fact that they could be arrested, have their names in the newspaper, and have their wives and / or families find out what they've up to, sure, by all means get verified. For the rest of us, it's a risk on the level of BBFS with a street provider. Way too risky for me.

    And that alleged senator? No way. If you did have such a client, you would never brag about it. If LEO were to catch you now regardless of your records they'd make you reveal his name, again under severe court penalties (e.g., you stay in jail until you do). Like I said, I respect most of your opinions but these posts are out of line.

    I am on this board to give my fellow mongers good information and get good information back. If I see false information, I will always post against it for that reason.

  2. #4804

    Overwriting

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    The self destruct works by overwriting the entire drive with 0's, which makes it unrecoverable by any means. Buy one and send it to your friends and see if they can crack it, everything I've read says that it can't be done with current technology. With current technology the focus is on obtaining the password, not trying to crack the encryption. Usually what is done is what's called a brute force attack, often on an image of the drive contents and not the actual drive (in case they screw something up). But you can't make an image copy of this drive, so that isn't possible. Attempting the brute force method on the drive itself will very quickly trigger the self destruct feature. Use a strong alphanumeric password which you don't use anywhere else, and never write down, and it's pretty much impossible to hack. Considering that the NSA has still not been able to crack Bin Laden's hard drives, I doubt very much that local LE, or even the FBI, could crack one of these drives.

    http://harvardcollegetechreview.com/...cryptanalysis/

    Yes, I am quite certain of the identity of the client in question. Politicians are people too (despite popular opinion) , and have the same needs and desires as any other man. I won't discuss the subject further for obvious reasons.

    Xoxo.

    Nyx
    The overwriting rings a bell. I once dropped my camera and lost all of my pics on the memory card as it started overwriting or reformating. I brought it to a local big chain office supply store to see if they could retrieve any of them as the card said there were zero pics on it. They couldn't. But they said there was an expensive hi tec way to retrieve them. They said as long as the whole card was not reformated of overwriten they may be able to get them. Well they did. It was pricey but worth it. I don't know if computer data is the same. Just my two cents.

    BB

  3. #4803

    Us senator

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    Imation S200. Hardware encrypted flash drive with a self destruct feature. The chips are encased in a radio opaque epoxy so they can not be accessed directly, attempting to do so (to use an eprom reader for example) will cause it to self destruct. Enter the wrong password x times (user configurable) will again cause it to self destruct. Even with the correct password, it can only be accessed by a pre approved computer. The self destruct feature can also be triggered remotely.

    Secure data protection is available, but most rely on simple boot up passwords on their computers, which are pathetically easy to bypass.

    If you (or anyone else) don't want to submit to screening, that is certainly your choice. But it will mean that most reputable providers will not see you.

    On a side note, I often find it amusing that the people you'd expect to be unwilling to be screened often have no problem with it, and in fact appreciate your caution. For example, just in the last year I've screened CEO's, CFO's, and COO's of multinational corporations, and a US Senator. None of which hesitated to provide all of the required screening information in their first email.

    Nyx
    Lets play multiple choice A) John Kerry B) Scott Brown

  4. #4802
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    Posts: 2137
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    The self destruct works by overwriting the entire drive with 0's, which makes it unrecoverable by any means. Buy one and send it to your friends and see if they can crack it, everything I've read says that it can't be done with current technology. With current technology the focus is on obtaining the password, not trying to crack the encryption. Usually what is done is what's called a brute force attack, often on an image of the drive contents and not the actual drive (in case they screw something up). But you can't make an image copy of this drive, so that isn't possible. Attempting the brute force method on the drive itself will very quickly trigger the self destruct feature. Use a strong alphanumeric password which you don't use anywhere else, and never write down, and it's pretty much impossible to hack. Considering that the NSA has still not been able to crack Bin Laden's hard drives, I doubt very much that local LE, or even the FBI, could crack one of these drives.

    http://harvardcollegetechreview.com/...cryptanalysis/

    Yes, I am quite certain of the identity of the client in question. Politicians are people too (despite popular opinion) , and have the same needs and desires as any other man. I won't discuss the subject further for obvious reasons.

    Xoxo.

    Nyx
    I'd like to continue and rephrase a bit from what I said in previous message.

    I'm pretty sure that there are certain type of ladies and services that they use that may or may not cost a fortune but they have one thing in common for sure. They don't ask too many questions at least that was the case in Washington 4 years ago. There are services that ask questions and require verifications but they usually are avoided by those with things to lose. Recent events made it that much more so.

    Sure there are adventure seekers among politicians too, the ones that love the idea of walking that dangerous plank of risking themselves being caught but they are in the minority. Majority would run the minute you ask them first personal question. In my book a true pro is the one who asks no questions, in fact she is not even interested to know more about yu then your volunteer to her. She's able to sense potential danger coming to her over the initial phone conversation and always will take personal reference from a client as a trusted and the only reference that she needs. Chances are she will also have a client on the force (like some ladies that I know do) who warns them of any potential trouble that may come their way.

    The less they know about you my fellow mongers, the less are the chances that it may come back to haunt you. I hope we can agree on that.

  5. #4801
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    Posts: 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Imation is the Microcenter brand. I doubt you can legally purchase a data storage in the States that wouldn't allow for some sort of recovery by Homeland security. Not in this country. I'll check into it some. I'm actually curious myself. I'll be surprised if you're right.
    If you find any credible reports of someone cracking one of these, please let me know. As I said, my research, and the opinion of a couple of computer security specialists I've talked to, says that it hasn't been done. But technology is always changing, and if anything has changed I'd like to know about it. I do what I can to stay on top of things and keep my girls, my clients, and of course myself, safe. Of course ideally adequate screening will prevent the need of protecting my data all together, but there's always the potential for something to go wrong, and I like to plan ahead.

    Xoxo

    Nyx

  6. #4800
    Senior Member


    Posts: 2137
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    The self destruct works by overwriting the entire drive with 0's, which makes it unrecoverable by any means. Buy one and send it to your friends and see if they can crack it, everything I've read says that it can't be done with current technology. With current technology the focus is on obtaining the password, not trying to crack the encryption. Usually what is done is what's called a brute force attack, often on an image of the drive contents and not the actual drive (in case they screw something up). But you can't make an image copy of this drive, so that isn't possible. Attempting the brute force method on the drive itself will very quickly trigger the self destruct feature. Use a strong alphanumeric password which you don't use anywhere else, and never write down, and it's pretty much impossible to hack. Considering that the NSA has still not been able to crack Bin Laden's hard drives, I doubt very much that local LE, or even the FBI, could crack one of these drives.

    http://harvardcollegetechreview.com/...cryptanalysis/

    Yes, I am quite certain of the identity of the client in question. Politicians are people too (despite popular opinion) , and have the same needs and desires as any other man. I won't discuss the subject further for obvious reasons.

    Xoxo.

    Nyx
    Imation is the Microcenter brand. I doubt you can legally purchase a data storage in the States that wouldn't allow for some sort of recovery by Homeland security. Not in this country. I'll check into it some. I'm actually curious myself. I'll be surprised if you're right.

    As for the senator, well, nobody denies that they are human too. But considering late events in Washington and New York that brought down so many powerful senators, governors and the reps I think for the senator to give out his personal info is outright stupid. Look, right now you already posses his info. If you want to make hey with it. You could. Did he know you well before sharing this info with you? No. Does he have a reason to trust you? No. I think it's outright stupid on his part. In fact, it probably would be safer for him to get a street walker. I'm half kidding here because at least, chances are she wouldn't recognize him or google him like the smarter girls would do. I'm also pretty sure that there are certain type of ladies and services that they use that may cost a fortune but don't ask too many questions.

  7. #4799

    1 Post Newbie!

    I am brand new to the hobby and registered after much reading. I get it that my credibility and credentials are at zero, but everyone starts somewhere. I work in Cambridge with lots of flexibility as to schedule and location. My plan is to keep reading, learn from others, and work hard to be safe and make good choices! Any and all advice is appreciated, including what to avoid.

    My goal is to find a decent first time hobby experience. Wanting great will lead to disappointment, but the wisdom I have read here suggests it can be found. Thanks for the umm, hard work all you seniors have done. I hope I can find the right first encounter, be it AMP, escort, or BP ad.

    I'll be respectful here and will of course post a first time report once it happens!

  8. #4798
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    Posts: 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    What stupid state would elect such an idiot? Do we really want that state to remain part of the union? R you sure it was a US Senator and not a State Senator though?

    Speaking of the devil, are you aware that destroying your flash amounts to impending the investigation and carries with it much stiffer penalties then anything else that any of us could possibly be charged with? Also, don't think that the fact the flash was destroyed is untraceable. An average geek can easily establish that fact or who it was that destroyed it too. I'm quite sure that couple of people I know from the old country can easily bring that list back to live too. And if they can, I'm sure that District Attorney's office or if necessary the FDA has people that can do the same thin.

    Moreover if you told me that you bought it in China or in Russia I may give it some credit but any computer equipment that you buy in this country has to comply with Homeland security regulations. That means that your ability to destroy the information that your enter into anything which is sold here is limited.

    He is out there. That Big Brother guy. And don't worry he'll take care of you.
    The self destruct works by overwriting the entire drive with 0's, which makes it unrecoverable by any means. Buy one and send it to your friends and see if they can crack it, everything I've read says that it can't be done with current technology. With current technology the focus is on obtaining the password, not trying to crack the encryption. Usually what is done is what's called a brute force attack, often on an image of the drive contents and not the actual drive (in case they screw something up). But you can't make an image copy of this drive, so that isn't possible. Attempting the brute force method on the drive itself will very quickly trigger the self destruct feature. Use a strong alphanumeric password which you don't use anywhere else, and never write down, and it's pretty much impossible to hack. Considering that the NSA has still not been able to crack Bin Laden's hard drives, I doubt very much that local LE, or even the FBI, could crack one of these drives.

    http://harvardcollegetechreview.com/...cryptanalysis/

    Yes, I am quite certain of the identity of the client in question. Politicians are people too (despite popular opinion) , and have the same needs and desires as any other man. I won't discuss the subject further for obvious reasons.

    Xoxo.

    Nyx

  9. #4797

    Big Brother sad but true

    Everything you do can be found or recovered and is never really deleted. If Big Brother wants to put the time and effort into it they will get you and the charges of impeding or obstruction or destroying evidence on a federal level will get you several years in prison courtesy of the Feds. And if they can't get you for that they will just put you thru the tax evasion process and thats if they decide to play nice and not start handing out the conspiracy to violate indictments which have even less of a standard of proof to secure a conviction.

  10. #4796

    You had me at "eprom"

    This is one of the sexiest posts on this forum ever. LOL This gal is gorgeous, haz always given thoughtful intelligent reslonses and she knows what an eprom is too? Never tried because I am afraid indies could bee a sting. But must say nyx is very tempting.

    I wonder I the gal in maine videoed so as to ensure that she had some evidence to use against anyone who might try to weild power over her and threaten to take her to LE? Or was she making money from those vids or reaping some other benefit such as marketing herself. I feel sorry for the gal if she ends up xoing time. Seems so senseless. For what?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    Imation S200. Hardware encrypted flash drive with a self destruct feature. The chips are encased in a radio opaque epoxy so they can not be accessed directly, attempting to do so (to use an eprom reader for example) will cause it to self destruct. Enter the wrong password x times (user configurable) will again cause it to self destruct. Even with the correct password, it can only be accessed by a pre approved computer. The self destruct feature can also be triggered remotely.

    Secure data protection is available, but most rely on simple boot up passwords on their computers, which are pathetically easy to bypass.

    If you (or anyone else) don't want to submit to screening, that is certainly your choice. But it will mean that most reputable providers will not see you.

    On a side note, I often find it amusing that the people you'd expect to be unwilling to be screened often have no problem with it, and in fact appreciate your caution. For example, just in the last year I've screened CEO's, CFO's, and COO's of multinational corporations, and a US Senator. None of which hesitated to provide all of the required screening information in their first email.

    Nyx

  11. #4795
    Quote Originally Posted by Gansett  [View Original Post]
    Living where I do I know there's plenty of fish in the ocean.

    Gansett
    So that's what the mean by "ocean state?"

    100'% in agrement with gansett and NRLMUS here. Verification is just too risky.

  12. #4794
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    Posts: 2137
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    On a side note, I often find it amusing that the people you'd expect to be unwilling to be screened often have no problem with it, and in fact appreciate your caution. For example, just in the last year I've screened CEO's, CFO's, and COO's of multinational corporations, and a US Senator. None of which hesitated to provide all of the required screening information in their first email.

    Nyx
    What stupid state would elect such an idiot? Do we really want that state to remain part of the union? R you sure it was a US Senator and not a State Senator though?

    Speaking of the devil, are you aware that destroying your flash amounts to impending the investigation and carries with it much stiffer penalties then anything else that any of us could possibly be charged with? Also, don't think that the fact the flash was destroyed is untraceable. An average geek can easily establish that fact or who it was that destroyed it too. I'm quite sure that couple of people I know from the old country can easily bring that list back to live too. And if they can, I'm sure that District Attorney's office or if necessary the FDA has people that can do the same thin.

    Moreover if you told me that you bought it in China or in Russia I may give it some credit but any computer equipment that you buy in this country has to comply with Homeland security regulations. That means that your ability to destroy the information that your enter into anything which is sold here is limited.

    He is out there. That Big Brother guy. And don't worry he'll take care of you.

  13. #4793
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    Posts: 66
    Quote Originally Posted by Kowabunga  [View Original Post]
    There is absolutely no way for a provider to protect their record books (electronically or otherwise) so that they can't be compelled to provide them to police. So I say again, to all of you, only reveal your identity to a provider if you don't mind the risk of a court summons and your name ending up in the newspaper.
    Imation S200. Hardware encrypted flash drive with a self destruct feature. The chips are encased in a radio opaque epoxy so they can not be accessed directly, attempting to do so (to use an eprom reader for example) will cause it to self destruct. Enter the wrong password x times (user configurable) will again cause it to self destruct. Even with the correct password, it can only be accessed by a pre approved computer. The self destruct feature can also be triggered remotely.

    Secure data protection is available, but most rely on simple boot up passwords on their computers, which are pathetically easy to bypass.

    If you (or anyone else) don't want to submit to screening, that is certainly your choice. But it will mean that most reputable providers will not see you.

    On a side note, I often find it amusing that the people you'd expect to be unwilling to be screened often have no problem with it, and in fact appreciate your caution. For example, just in the last year I've screened CEO's, CFO's, and COO's of multinational corporations, and a US Senator. None of which hesitated to provide all of the required screening information in their first email.

    Nyx

  14. #4792

    Verification and Alexis W

    Quote Originally Posted by Gansett  [View Original Post]
    You wanted me to go thru your screening process and I declined. If my years on this board and almost 1, 000 posts doesn't prove my creditability I don't see how you making a few calls will. Living where I do I know there's plenty of fish in the ocean.
    The recent arrest of Alexis W in Maine and the subsequent seizure of her customer records should show everyone here that there's a serious risk to revealing your identification. From the Boston Globe article:

    Police have begun issuing summons to W’s customers and will release the names in the weeks ahead. Townspeople say they've heard that lawyers, doctors, law enforcement officials, a television personality and other well-known people in town are included in a detailed clientele list police found.
    There is absolutely no way for a provider to protect their record books (electronically or otherwise) so that they can't be compelled to provide them to police. So I say again, to all of you, only reveal your identity to a provider if you don't mind the risk of a court summons and your name ending up in the newspaper.

  15. #4791
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1384
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    A good rule of thumb is that the provider you're looking to see would need to be able to verify that the person you list as a reference is not just a friend of yours or Auntie Leo. Generally this means that your reference would need to have reviews, have ads posted, and preferably have their own website. This pretty much rules out using UTR girls, and most massage girls, as references.
    I have a friend in the business who is UTR, you won't take her as a reference? Some flat out refuse to give a reference as they feel they're giving business away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyx GG  [View Original Post]
    It's usually a good idea to let the provider / agency know that you're going to use them as a reference. A lot of independent providers (and a handful of agencies) will not give references. Many independent providers may take several days, or more, to respond to reference checks. So keep that in mind when scheduling appointments with providers / agencies who you have not yet been screened with. I recently took three weeks to screen a client because out of the six references he gave me only two responded, and they both took over a week to do so.

    A membership with Date Check, or Preferred411, really makes everything much easier on everyone involved.

    Xoxo.

    Nyx
    As you've stated indendents don't usually provide references, same with many agencies although I've seldom used agency. If I have the desire to see someone today I'm not going to wait upwards of three weeks for you to screen me, that's bull IMHO.

    I'm not joining date check or preferred411 and give my personal information. Same as you now run your business under your new name, Nyx, Kat.

    We had a email discussion a long time ago when I enquired about seeing one of your flock. You wanted me to go thru your screening process and I declined. If my years on this board and almost 1, 000 posts doesn't prove my creditability I don't see how you making a few calls will. Living where I do I know there's plenty of fish in the ocean.

    btw "A good rule of thumb is your rule, many don't follow it and do just fine.
    Gansett

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