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  1. #4839

    Tranny alert

    Guys be careful. I was out on the K earlier this morning around the 7-11. It was about 5ish. Not many girls out and some LEO presents. Pulled over when I saw a brunette with short hair and a bigger butt. It got in and when I saw its face up close and then its voice it scared the shit out of me. It was a dude. I've been trollling the Jersey scene for a long time and this is the first time this has ever happened. Is the K track known for this. Would be good to know. I don't knock it, I'm into some fucked up kinky shit myself.

  2. #4838

    WHy am I doing this?

    Quote Originally Posted by TrublMaykr  [View Original Post]
    Ouch! I am duly skewered, and all because someone took my post the wrong way.

    First of all, please understand that I was referring ONLY to the "drugged-up, drug-addicted, drug-motivated" sorts who wander the streets – NOT the women who are "trying to pay for a college future, a family, kids, mothers, a whole extended family that can't support themselves," as you note. I make a very strong differentiation between the two groups.

    The reason for my post was the confluence of two events – a comment made by another member of this forum about the "old days," coming on the heels of the conversation I referred to with the young lady that I quoted. When I referred to her as "wise beyond her years," I probably should have said "experienced beyond her years" instead, as it came out that she had experienced things that nobody should ever have to endure, even more so not at her age.

    Remember, when I quote someone, I'm simply stating their words without adulteration – not voicing support of any particular point of view.

    You might be interested to know that I was very saddened by her comments, and wound up turning around and returning her to where I encountered her, paying her for time spent and wishing her well.

    As I have stated in many conversations and prior online posts, it's important that we remember that every woman we meet is somebody's daughter, worthy of concern and respect, and we all owe everyone the obligation of decent treatment. By the way, when I used the term "scourge," I certainly wasn't applying a label of personal opinion, but using a term which reflects what the so-called establishment (LE, neighbors, media) would apply.

    I'm not looking for a girlfriend, but am happy to offer my friendship to those who seek it. That's just the way I am. I will expand upon that in a private message – please check your mailbox.

    In fact, it's because there are so many people who have given their lives up to drugs and surrendered to the streets that I have an even higher regard to those who have NOT gone that way, or who, if they had been addicted, have managed to pull themselves out of that world and are members of the "oldest profession" simply as a way to make ends meet.

    "Kinda says it all, huh" was merely mean to comment on the fatalistic attitude of THAT particular young lady, not an indictment of everyone else. As I said, the incident made me very sad, and I was probably overly influenced by that.
    I have checked my mail I will reply to you seperately, I would just like to take advantage of the post you made, I understand you were not voicing a certain opinion but I definately have an opinion on the matter that needs to voiced, if anyones listening or not.

    I would say about 7 out of 10 guys I meet would all ask me the same thing at some point in one of our encounters, and my simple and true answer would always be somewhere along the lines of because I like it. Now why is this an issue? Because then I have to wonder, why do you ask me this? And expect an answer that is more. Fulfilling.

    Do you ask your doctor why he sticks needles in people for a living everytime you get a physical. Do you ask your lawyer why he likes working long hours and have a minute social life only to deal with menial cases. Do you ask the welfare office clerk why she deals with aggravating people for a living. Do you ask the same 32 yr old shift manager you see every morning for your regular coffee at the mcdonalds cashier why she pushes buttons for a living. Do you ask a bus driver why hes a bus driver or a scientist why hes a scientist. Do you ask your coworker why he works at the place he does. Do you ask yourself why you work at the place you do for 15 yrs.

    So why is the reason for why a prostitute 'does what she does' any different. Is it the taboo of the subject that makes your curiosity peak? Idk I can't even begin to assume why it is such an exciting, and for some reason always negative, account. All I am trying to say is that I am almost 99% sure that none of those 7/10 guys truly belive that a woman can enjoy this lifestyle, as I promise you is no different than the 'normal life normal girls' lead. And everytime after they ask they follow it with: do you go to school? Or have you ever done drugs?

    Its just an obviously judgmental question that is seemingly hidden as an innocent curiosity. I have no problem answering it, in fact it eye-opening to me to see how maybe 6 of those 7 men can be so sadistic when we answer the question. Looking for confirmation that we Do do this for a drug fix. That we didn't have a good father figure. That we Are just helpless victims of a bad childhood and abuse that we Just want to feel appreciated and acknowledged. And so on.

    - Anyways my point is that we are prostitutes and that is all that you know as fact. Don't take her word over mine, don't take my word over hers, and don't take the stereotype for truth because at the end of the day you will never know the real story because no one will ever tell you and if they do you won't believe it anyways.

    P. S. I'm sorry for not being able to sum up my thoughts in a more simple and a lot shorter way. Have fun mongering boys be safe

  3. #4837
    Quote Originally Posted by Selena Bebtley  [View Original Post]
    ". You had girls presenting themselves as appealingly as possible because they knew they were in a competitive business."

    "And with the desperation of their presence driven by the drugs. More and more marked and unmarked conveyances are deployed to clean the street of this scourge."

    - MOST of us Women do (try to at the very least) present ourselves in an appealing matter even today; and Trust me TrublMaker we KNOW its a competitive business because its us Clean, SOBER, Non-Addicted, Goal-Oriented prostitutes Competing Against these drugged up, drug-addicted, drug-Motivated want to be prostitutes that you mongers knowingly date. Because they're cheaper. Or maybe cus sometimes give "better" service. Therefore keeping Those ladies (or scourge as you call it) on the streets, or internet, allowing for the le to deploy and 'clean up the streets'

    "Men got to know the providers, the girls turned to them to satisfy more than just their financial needs, and [actual] relationships developed."

    - Sounds like you're looking for a girlfriend more than Prostitute.

    ". Regardless of the stories you may hear from the individual occupants of your passenger seat, there's really one motivation."

    "In a conversation with one wise-beyond-her-years young lady. She said. 'Why do I do this? Drugs."

    "Any girl tells you she's doing it for any reason but drugs, she's full of shit."

    - Let me get this straight. You, Trublemaker, take in regard, and take as overall truth, a conversation with a young lady, who undoubtedly could have once been an individual occupant of Your passenger seat, about a Woman's Motivation for entering the worlds oldest profession, and still have the audacity to proclaim her 'wise beyond her years' Knowing her Only Motivation for this profession is Drugs, which unless she is buying and in return selling in order to flip the profits as a side hustle, will not get her or anyone anywhere.

    - I have nothing bad to say about Her, I don't know her or her story, but I Do have a lot to say about the fact that You, her, and Many People are so quick to believe that Her motivation is basically a Summary for all or even most Prostitutes.

    "Kinda says it all huh"

    - Really, TrublMaker? So that basically sums it up right. No longer are we trying to pay for a college future, a family, kids, mothers, a whole extended family that can't support themselves; no longer are we doing this because we like luxury, because we don't want to drive a crappy car for the rest of our life, we don't want to struggle for a monthly rent, we don't want to live in a small ass apartment one day. No, we don't want to have nice things and nice clothes and lots of money, no we don't want lv or gucci or red bottoms, we don't want to travel and spend without worrying about Going Broke. No we don't want to the best we can to live the dream and not have to worry that our mother can't pay rent, or our cousins can't afford a college education.

    Nope, you're absolutely right, what this young lady "wise beyond her years" claimed Does Say It All.

    - BUt then again I AM just any girl, just a prostitute whose only motivation is Drugs. (I hope he pays me enough to get my fix today hahha)

    - PLEASE! LOL
    Ouch! I am duly skewered, and all because someone took my post the wrong way.

    First of all, please understand that I was referring ONLY to the "drugged-up, drug-addicted, drug-motivated" sorts who wander the streets – NOT the women who are "trying to pay for a college future, a family, kids, mothers, a whole extended family that can't support themselves," as you note. I make a very strong differentiation between the two groups.

    The reason for my post was the confluence of two events – a comment made by another member of this forum about the "old days," coming on the heels of the conversation I referred to with the young lady that I quoted. When I referred to her as "wise beyond her years," I probably should have said "experienced beyond her years" instead, as it came out that she had experienced things that nobody should ever have to endure, even more so not at her age.

    Remember, when I quote someone, I'm simply stating their words without adulteration – not voicing support of any particular point of view.

    You might be interested to know that I was very saddened by her comments, and wound up turning around and returning her to where I encountered her, paying her for time spent and wishing her well.

    As I have stated in many conversations and prior online posts, it's important that we remember that every woman we meet is somebody's daughter, worthy of concern and respect, and we all owe everyone the obligation of decent treatment. By the way, when I used the term "scourge," I certainly wasn't applying a label of personal opinion, but using a term which reflects what the so-called establishment (LE, neighbors, media) would apply.

    I'm not looking for a girlfriend, but am happy to offer my friendship to those who seek it. That's just the way I am. I will expand upon that in a private message – please check your mailbox.

    In fact, it's because there are so many people who have given their lives up to drugs and surrendered to the streets that I have an even higher regard to those who have NOT gone that way, or who, if they had been addicted, have managed to pull themselves out of that world and are members of the "oldest profession" simply as a way to make ends meet.

    "Kinda says it all, huh" was merely mean to comment on the fatalistic attitude of THAT particular young lady, not an indictment of everyone else. As I said, the incident made me very sad, and I was probably overly influenced by that.

  4. #4836

    Busy Weekend

    Seen a few girls this weekend and hopefully soon I'll have pictures. First girl I saw was short thin blonde with fake tits named Angel. Picked her up at cambia and the K. She was smoking hot with perfect tits. She's got a shitty attitude but she sure sucks a great dick. 25 for BBBJ and 50fs. Only went for the 25 and tipped extra because she swallowed. Next girl was a taller thick brunette named Erin that I meet at Venango and The K. Looked cute but has some serious acme issues. Very sweet and talkative though. Nice big booty though. I was able to get FS for 30 plus ten for the room. Good BBBJ at first and she can definitely take it like a champ doggie but again there were a few hygienic issues. Last was a short thick blond named Yolonda. Big tits and ass and long blond hair. Found her on the corner of Sergent and K. 25 for a BBBJ and finishing in mouth. A real get in and get out type of job, I was able to get working contact numbers for all three. Will share with contributing memebers.

  5. #4835

    Thing change and evolve

    Quote Originally Posted by TrublMaykr  [View Original Post]
    Everyone's comments about how things have changed over the past 20-30 years are absolutely correct. Sure, years ago, you had girls presenting themselves as appealingly as possible because they knew they were in a competitive business. Men got to know the providers, the girls turned to them to satisfy more than just financial needs, and actual relationships developed. Remember the old movie character type."the hooker with a heart of gold". Who did what she did because it was the only thing she knew how to do, and who was just as likely to give much of what she earned to people in need? Those weren't merely fantasies, even though they were overly-glamorized. Girls entered the "World's Oldest Profession" to support themselves and often their families, and there was a kind of back-alley respectability to things.

    Now, regardless of the stories you may hear from individual occupants of your passenger seat, there's really one motivation, and it ain't the rising cost of college tuition. In a conversation with one wise-beyond-her-years young lady a couple of weeks ago, she said it all with "Why do I do this? Drugs, of course. You start by getting high once in a while 'because, why'know, it's what everyone is doing, and then it takes hold of you. And before you know it's all you care about in the world and every though, every minute, is only about that. I get in your car, I'm thinkin' what do I have to do, how much money can I get from you, and how much shit can that buy me. And how long it'll hold me before I have to go out and do it again. Any girl tells you she's doing it for any reason but drugs. She's full of shit, and just tryin' to play you for more money."

    Kinda says it all, huh?

    And with the desperation of their presence driven by the drugs, less and less regard is paid to appearance, and the presence of these victims becomes more obvious, raising more public awareness, and the next thing you know, the political sabers begin getting rattled again, and more and more men and women in blue (and both marked and unmarked conveyances) are deployed to clean the streets of this scourge.
    Yes there was a lot more action and better quality on the streets 20-30 years ago. On the flip side you now have the internet with BP, Adult Search, and review sites like this. I've never been a big fan of street action. I've always preferred clubs and private establishments.

  6. #4834

    How things Have changed

    ". You had girls presenting themselves as appealingly as possible because they knew they were in a competitive business."

    "And with the desperation of their presence driven by the drugs. More and more marked and unmarked conveyances are deployed to clean the street of this scourge."

    - MOST of us Women do (try to at the very least) present ourselves in an appealing matter even today; and Trust me TrublMaker we KNOW its a competitive business because its us Clean, SOBER, Non-Addicted, Goal-Oriented prostitutes Competing Against these drugged up, drug-addicted, drug-Motivated want to be prostitutes that you mongers knowingly date. Because they're cheaper. Or maybe cus sometimes give "better" service. Therefore keeping Those ladies (or scourge as you call it) on the streets, or internet, allowing for the le to deploy and 'clean up the streets'

    "Men got to know the providers, the girls turned to them to satisfy more than just their financial needs, and [actual] relationships developed."

    - Sounds like you're looking for a girlfriend more than Prostitute.

    ". Regardless of the stories you may hear from the individual occupants of your passenger seat, there's really one motivation."

    "In a conversation with one wise-beyond-her-years young lady. She said. 'Why do I do this? Drugs."

    "Any girl tells you she's doing it for any reason but drugs, she's full of shit."

    - Let me get this straight. You, Trublemaker, take in regard, and take as overall truth, a conversation with a young lady, who undoubtedly could have once been an individual occupant of Your passenger seat, about a Woman's Motivation for entering the worlds oldest profession, and still have the audacity to proclaim her 'wise beyond her years' Knowing her Only Motivation for this profession is Drugs, which unless she is buying and in return selling in order to flip the profits as a side hustle, will not get her or anyone anywhere.

    - I have nothing bad to say about Her, I don't know her or her story, but I Do have a lot to say about the fact that You, her, and Many People are so quick to believe that Her motivation is basically a Summary for all or even most Prostitutes.

    "Kinda says it all huh"

    - Really, TrublMaker? So that basically sums it up right. No longer are we trying to pay for a college future, a family, kids, mothers, a whole extended family that can't support themselves; no longer are we doing this because we like luxury, because we don't want to drive a crappy car for the rest of our life, we don't want to struggle for a monthly rent, we don't want to live in a small ass apartment one day. No, we don't want to have nice things and nice clothes and lots of money, no we don't want lv or gucci or red bottoms, we don't want to travel and spend without worrying about Going Broke. No we don't want to the best we can to live the dream and not have to worry that our mother can't pay rent, or our cousins can't afford a college education.

    Nope, you're absolutely right, what this young lady "wise beyond her years" claimed Does Say It All.

    - BUt then again I AM just any girl, just a prostitute whose only motivation is Drugs. (I hope he pays me enough to get my fix today hahha)

    - PLEASE! LOL

  7. #4833

    Megan

    Drove the Ave around 4pm and eventually made a pickup a block off around Sedgeley.

    Megan, redhead WSW, probably about 5'5.

    As soon as she got in the car and we drove off, we noticed black van following us.

    I drove off and dropped her off a few blocks away after exchanging numbers.

    Didn't notice the van following me afterwards, and we arranged a pickup nearby, but she was spooked and

    Walked by the spot and went off on her own way.

  8. #4832
    Sounds like the Jackie that I posted pics of. She is a hard one to find. Claims to be out there all the time but I have only seen her out once.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Fusnr  [View Original Post]
    I found Jackie (sp?) on Wednesday morning around 5 AMatthe Ave and E. Clearfield. Jackie is blond, nice build w / wire frame glasses, early 20's. Could be confused for Michelle, who work a few blocks up toward the 7-11. She was wearing a pick thin strap top. I've seen her before and decided to try. Pickup was just of the Ave and she appeared a bit nervous during the P / U and drive to our spot. Unfortunately, I have that LEO look. In any event, once we arrivedatour spot she got a bit more comfortable. Got a nice view of here rack, which is nothing short of astonishing. It also doubles as her filing cabinet as I have never seen that may items stored in this area! (LOL). Once she was done unpacking, she got down to business. Let me tell you I have experience quite a bit and shhe was right up at the top, good DT, lots of tongue action and when it was time NQNS. She commented afterward how different guys like it different ways and she always enjoys experimenting to find out what they like. Well, she found it for me! I drove her back to a spot near where I picked her up and gave her a extra 5 for outstanding service. Will definitely look for her again! Only down side was here edgy feeling getting in (to be expected) and she did seem more subtle than I am use to, very quite.

  9. #4831

    Condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Agt4258  [View Original Post]
    This is sarah smiles gwens bff and she will be missed I just got out of jail and I miss her dearly she got my heart she allways took care of me like I took care of me I miss her nsooo much and I always will does anyonne know where she is buired? I need to go see her because if it wasnt for me finding this out I'd be out there lookin for her! I love her and ANY ONE aho knows me type back I miss her!
    Agt4258-

    Please relay this if you can. Thanks.

    Sarah,

    Sorry for your loss and the way you found out. I know it's painful. Glad to see you are out; the have been quite a few of us wondering where you went. Hope to see you soon.

  10. #4830

    Jackie

    I found Jackie (sp?) on Wednesday morning around 5 AMatthe Ave and E. Clearfield. Jackie is blond, nice build w / wire frame glasses, early 20's. Could be confused for Michelle, who work a few blocks up toward the 7-11. She was wearing a pick thin strap top. I've seen her before and decided to try. Pickup was just of the Ave and she appeared a bit nervous during the P / U and drive to our spot. Unfortunately, I have that LEO look. In any event, once we arrivedatour spot she got a bit more comfortable. Got a nice view of here rack, which is nothing short of astonishing. It also doubles as her filing cabinet as I have never seen that may items stored in this area! (LOL). Once she was done unpacking, she got down to business. Let me tell you I have experience quite a bit and shhe was right up at the top, good DT, lots of tongue action and when it was time NQNS. She commented afterward how different guys like it different ways and she always enjoys experimenting to find out what they like. Well, she found it for me! I drove her back to a spot near where I picked her up and gave her a extra 5 for outstanding service. Will definitely look for her again! Only down side was here edgy feeling getting in (to be expected) and she did seem more subtle than I am use to, very quite.

  11. #4829

    How it's changed.

    Everyone's comments about how things have changed over the past 20-30 years are absolutely correct. Sure, years ago, you had girls presenting themselves as appealingly as possible because they knew they were in a competitive business. Men got to know the providers, the girls turned to them to satisfy more than just financial needs, and actual relationships developed. Remember the old movie character type. "the hooker with a heart of gold". Who did what she did because it was the only thing she knew how to do, and who was just as likely to give much of what she earned to people in need? Those weren't merely fantasies, even though they were overly-glamorized. Girls entered the "World's Oldest Profession" to support themselves and often their families, and there was a kind of back-alley respectability to things.

    Now, regardless of the stories you may hear from individual occupants of your passenger seat, there's really one motivation, and it ain't the rising cost of college tuition. In a conversation with one wise-beyond-her-years young lady a couple of weeks ago, she said it all with "Why do I do this? Drugs, of course. You start by getting high once in a while 'because, why'know, it's what everyone is doing, and then it takes hold of you. And before you know it's all you care about in the world and every though, every minute, is only about that. I get in your car, I'm thinkin' what do I have to do, how much money can I get from you, and how much shit can that buy me. And how long it'll hold me before I have to go out and do it again. Any girl tells you she's doing it for any reason but drugs. She's full of shit, and just tryin' to play you for more money."

    Kinda says it all, huh?

    And with the desperation of their presence driven by the drugs, less and less regard is paid to appearance, and the presence of these victims becomes more obvious, raising more public awareness, and the next thing you know, the political sabers begin getting rattled again, and more and more men and women in blue (and both marked and unmarked conveyances) are deployed to clean the streets of this scourge.

  12. #4828

    Sad Days

    Not only has the K gotten worse, but AC and Camden have seen much better days (and nights) as well. Who can forget the ole Admiral Wilson Bld, and AC when there were 5 or 6 chicks on every corner dressed for the party. I won't repeat what was already said about center city Philly except that I miss those days dearly. As I am sure we all do! Doc

  13. #4827

    Philly

    Quote Originally Posted by NumberDude  [View Original Post]
    I started back in the 80's and never had any problems. No problems with LE or the girls. Back in the day, I always cruised at night, usually around 7pm or 8pm. The girls then were usually decent-looking, had ok attitudes, and didn't seem so strung out on drugs. Never a problem when I proposed to take them to my house, in lieu of a car date (which I never do). The K seems much different now, much worse now in every aspect. Maybe I'm just more careful, but I don't go there anymore. It seems a shame to me, because it used to be a good thing. Maybe it's still a good thing and it's just my aging perception, I don't know. Are there any other old timers still out there? Does it seem worse to you too? I'm just not willing to take the chance anymore. Too bad. I have some great memories of the K.
    I started this hobby back 1990 and almost every week when I got paid I was down there, sometimes even a little drunk. Couple of crazy chicks, never had a problem with LEO. Use to let the girls pick the spot or even goto a house or abandon bld, never had an issue. Now NO WAY, if you ever seen the movie 'the craizes' I think that plane crashed into the Schuylkill river. Last time I was down there was about a year ago in the afternoon talked to one girl around Tioga st station and all of a sudden she started to flip out on me for no reason. I had to walk the around the block twice to get rid of her so she didn't know what car was mine. To top it off 15min later I was reconing around the somerset st area and got pulled over for no reason said "I looked out of place" and told me to leave the area.

    Now I drive the extra miles to A / C or Baltimore much safer

  14. #4826

    Ashley

    I picked up Ashley, WSW with a flower tat on her left fore arm last Wednesday at the northern end. It was pretty crowded with larger girls, but Ashley was skinny with a nice rack. We have a good conversation about other mongers and her life working. We get to the spot and she delivers an absolutley great BBBJ. Very excellent skills and seem very much making sure I got what I wanted.

  15. #4825

    I started back in the 80's

    Quote Originally Posted by NumberDude  [View Original Post]
    I started back in the 80's and never had any problems.
    I too was around then and had the occasional rip offs, but as you said the girls looked so much better. I don't remember the LE activity as it is now. I remember that there was activity in Philly beyond just Kensington. I remember in Center City near 13th and walnut the girls (Not trannys back then) used to reach in your car and give a little feel. But they were looking for a loose wallet so it had to have been secured ahead of time. South Broad between Washington and Snyder also had quite a bit of action. Most of all there was no USASG to share the info. So you win some you loose some. Happy safe hunting. RM

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