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  1. #4809
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonsil Hockey  [View Original Post]
    I hope there is someone who took that physician's place, he made things safer for all of us, and improved the lives of at least a few of the women whom society spurns.

    He once remarked that he had considered placing "contribution jars" at area convenience stores to gather funds to expand his abilities. I don't believe this ever happened.
    Sadly, I don't think there's anyone providing that kind of service to the young ladies, as it would probably fall into the category of an "insurance issue" these days.

    As for the collection jar. What a wonderful idea, which would probably be squashed in an instant by all of the same self-righteous assholes who feel that free distribution of things like condoms or needles would be "contributing to immoral behavior."

  2. #4808

    A "savior" of sorts, and his story.

    For almost twelve years, from 1990 until the latter part of 2001, I used to "draw bloods" and cultures for a "house" located in Wynnefield. I became friends with almost all of the girls there, and in that entire time, only two tested positive for an STD; one chlamydia, the other Hepatitis "A". Which was reported to the proper authorities, and precautions and notifications were taken. There used to be a MONTCO physician who oversaw the care of these "women of the evening", he has since retired. He also cared for many of the women who spent time at "Dxxxxx's place". The M. D. Was actually an OB / GYN who used to monger. He performed this service from the early 1970's until around 2003.

    I've been out of that loop for quite some time, but I remember that another paramedic from the area used to collect the labwork for the women at Dxxxxx's. He also cared for their health in general, and when the occasional pregnancy occurred (not usually the failure of birth control) , he either delivered the child, or arranged for the other option to be performed; all with little or no cost to the girl.

    He also supplied the various medications necessary for their health needs, within reason. I don't think that he ever turned anyone away, either. One other thing, if memory serves, many of the girls came out of either the Carolina's or the Akron, Ohio region. I don't know if this is still the case. There was one girl, a "thirty something" brunette named "Vicki" who worked at both locations; she was very special to me, and became a good friend. I can see why CJ remarks about marriage plans on occasion.

    The houses paid a small fee for the collection, and the labs were taken to a hospital lab about 60mi from the city. I am certain that the authorities in the city were aware of this endeavor, as I understand that neither location received frequent "special attention" from the authorities.

    I hope there is someone who took that physician's place, he made things safer for all of us, and improved the lives of at least a few of the women whom society spurns.

    He once remarked that he had considered placing "contribution jars" at area convenience stores to gather funds to expand his abilities. I don't believe this ever happened.

  3. #4807
    Gator.

    Yeah, I'm one of those "suckers" too, who actually regards these girls as human, and who cares about them. Especially the ones who I get to know reasonably well. Whether it's the drugs or the many potential illnesses (bacterial, viral, STD, etc, etc.) that can afflict them, they don't exactly carry robust health insurance policies, and don't have the defenses to get well when they're sick. It's sad, and I constantly remind myself that every one of them is somebody's daughter, who, were it not for bad decisions or simply bad circumstances might have would up in a completely different world.

    Sure, we turn to them for our pleasure, but please. Let's remember that they are also deserving of our respect.

  4. #4806

    Chuck Marvel

    Unfortunately antibiotics are no long a priority for big pharma. With the exception of Tuberculosis, and few oddball organisms, even the most severe bacterial infections only require from a couple of doses, to a couple of weeks of treatment. Make a good ED, acid reflux, or allergy medicine and you've got patients taking it for years! It's all about the Benjamins.

  5. #4805

    It's not only staph

    Quote Originally Posted by GettingTang  [View Original Post]
    From what you describe here, it sounds like maybe she was infected with a resistant for of staph. .
    We're also encountering massive problems with Vancomycin resistant organisms: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vancomy...t_enterococcus (common urinary tract pathology) ; and one on the horizon called NDM-1 (first identified in New Delhi, India) which is really scary: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Del...ta-lactamase_1

    The scary thing is that effective antibacterials are at least four to five years away.

    This is one of the reasons for decriminalization, as this would go far in improving the health of our entire population. Social stigma, or not.

  6. #4804
    Quote Originally Posted by Gator145  [View Original Post]
    More times than I like to remember there have been reports of girls on the Ave passing away. Some have been close and others I knew just in passing. No matter it's a very sad day when I read of a girl like Michelle losing her struggle with life on the infamous Ave. I often wonder if those of us who know these girls are the only ones that truly care about losing them. There are those girls that don't really belong on the Ave. Michelle is one of those girls. She was prettier than the average girl on the streets. One could tell she had pride in herself. She was always clean and pleasant. She would sit in one of her dresses usually on Huntingdon on the church steps. Watching the traffic go by almost hoping she would not be noticed. Yet she was very aware how badly she needed the few dollars she could make. She didn't like what she had to do to survive. None of the girls do. But they are thrust into a world that is so much bigger than they are and when they finally realize that, it is usually to late. What they do they have to do to survive. The mean streets will chew them up and and look for the next victim. It doesn't take very long. What many may not have known is that Michelle was working even though she knew she was sick. Just prior to her passing we were together. I cupped her face to kiss her goodbye which is what we always did. She cringed in excruciating pain. I remember thinking Oh My God what have I done. I told her how sorry I was that I had hurt her and she said it wasn't my fault. Then she showed me what appeared to be a large abscess about the size of my thumb under her hair. It was not a pleasant sight at all. That was a Saturday. I told her it looked very serious and she should try to get it looked at as soon as possible. The next day, Sunday she texted me that she took my advice and she was in the hospital. That is the last I heard of her. In the past few days two friends asked me if I knew what had happened to her. Without thinking I told them I was unaware anything had happened to her. All three of us thought at first it was the drugs that took her. But now in hindsight I wonder if it was the condition that I saw that that took this lovely girl from us.

    No matter, she is now gone. It is my responsibility to this community and most of all to her, to make all those who read this aware that there is a very good possibility she did not die of drugs as so many do. I say this without knowing the cause of her death. But knowing the condition of her health, the possibility lies that she may have escaped a drug overdose and just simply passed away due to other circumstances. Should anybody have any info regarding this please share it with those of us that truly care what happens to the girls out there.

    To Michelle you were an angel while you was with us and you will be missed greatly.
    From what you describe here, it sounds like maybe she was infected with a resistant for of staph. These staff bacteria can lay dormant in the body for years just waiting. The bacteria usually kept in check through our natural barriers, hence sinus membranes, intestines, etc, can break through the barrier and cause infection. Once that happens, is can enter the blood stream cause a person to become septic and die very quickly. 50% of all hospital workers carry this form of resistant staph in their sinus passages. Chances are it will not cause infection, but at any given time it can with someone who uses needles and is run down to bits from long term drug use.

  7. #4803

    Michelle

    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanBook  [View Original Post]
    This is the second time in the past two months I google searched a name and found an obituary. I assume it was drug related. It seems like those a* holes that want to steal your wallet and all kind of other under handed s*t stay out there for ever but the ones that are still decent human beings regardless to the life style they live are taken away. Maybe it's gods way of saying "your too nice for this, I'm bringing you home"

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    More times than I like to remember there have been reports of girls on the Ave passing away. Some have been close and others I knew just in passing. No matter it's a very sad day when I read of a girl like Michelle losing her struggle with life on the infamous Ave. I often wonder if those of us who know these girls are the only ones that truly care about losing them. There are those girls that don't really belong on the Ave. Michelle is one of those girls. She was prettier than the average girl on the streets. One could tell she had pride in herself. She was always clean and pleasant. She would sit in one of her dresses usually on Huntingdon on the church steps. Watching the traffic go by almost hoping she would not be noticed. Yet she was very aware how badly she needed the few dollars she could make. She didn't like what she had to do to survive. None of the girls do. But they are thrust into a world that is so much bigger than they are and when they finally realize that, it is usually to late. What they do they have to do to survive. The mean streets will chew them up and and look for the next victim. It doesn't take very long. What many may not have known is that Michelle was working even though she knew she was sick. Just prior to her passing we were together. I cupped her face to kiss her goodbye which is what we always did. She cringed in excruciating pain. I remember thinking Oh My God what have I done. I told her how sorry I was that I had hurt her and she said it wasn't my fault. Then she showed me what appeared to be a large abscess about the size of my thumb under her hair. It was not a pleasant sight at all. That was a Saturday. I told her it looked very serious and she should try to get it looked at as soon as possible. The next day, Sunday she texted me that she took my advice and she was in the hospital. That is the last I heard of her. In the past few days two friends asked me if I knew what had happened to her. Without thinking I told them I was unaware anything had happened to her. All three of us thought at first it was the drugs that took her. But now in hindsight I wonder if it was the condition that I saw that that took this lovely girl from us.

    No matter, she is now gone. It is my responsibility to this community and most of all to her, to make all those who read this aware that there is a very good possibility she did not die of drugs as so many do. I say this without knowing the cause of her death. But knowing the condition of her health, the possibility lies that she may have escaped a drug overdose and just simply passed away due to other circumstances. Should anybody have any info regarding this please share it with those of us that truly care what happens to the girls out there.

    To Michelle you were an angel while you was with us and you will be missed greatly.

  8. #4802
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNoob 86  [View Original Post]
    Just out of sheer curiosity, has anyone ever hung around Center City around 12:30-2am? Depending on how lucky I get with something, I may have a job working night shift soon. I mean if you've read my post, you know I'm completely new. (Hence the name True Noob) I thought I'd start by just testing the 22 rules, by walking around seeing if I can I'd possible SWs and / or watch the stroll. I do not have any plans to attempt to solicit anything, I'm just really interested.

    Also if I may, what got everyone else interested in "the hobby"? For me, it's because in all likelihood a normal relationship is not likely, but thankfully humans have developed alternative methods of relationships for the less fortunate.
    The action in Center City is indoors, in the clubs and bars where normal people impress women with their looks and personality, not with a monetary offering. Be aware you'll run into men seeking men if you are in the 13th & Locust area. CookyJar, in his "alternative" life, used to hang out at the hotel near 16th & Catherine, but that street is all residential now. For normal paid action in Center City pick up the free weekly City Paper and find the ads for massage parlors, many of which are in the Vine & Race street area.

  9. #4801
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNoob 86  [View Original Post]
    Just out of sheer curiosity, has anyone ever hung around Center City around 12:30-2am? Depending on how lucky I get with something, I may have a job working night shift soon. I mean if you've read my post, you know I'm completely new. (Hence the name True Noob) I thought I'd start by just testing the 22 rules, by walking around seeing if I can I'd possible SWs and / or watch the stroll. I do not have any plans to attempt to solicit anything, I'm just really interested.

    Also if I may, what got everyone else interested in "the hobby"? For me, it's because in all likelihood a normal relationship is not likely, but thankfully humans have developed alternative methods of relationships for the less fortunate.
    I personally like the hunt and window shopping.

    Just like Forest said "Life is like a box of chocolates you never know what you'll get"

  10. #4800

    Center City info

    Just out of sheer curiosity, has anyone ever hung around Center City around 12:30-2am? Depending on how lucky I get with something, I may have a job working night shift soon. I mean if you've read my post, you know I'm completely new. (Hence the name True Noob) I thought I'd start by just testing the 22 rules, by walking around seeing if I can I'd possible SWs and / or watch the stroll. I do not have any plans to attempt to solicit anything, I'm just really interested.

    Also if I may, what got everyone else interested in "the hobby"? For me, it's because in all likelihood a normal relationship is not likely, but thankfully humans have developed alternative methods of relationships for the less fortunate.

  11. #4799

    Thursday Afternoon at 4:00

    Was on the stroll Thursday afternoon, not much LE, not much talent either. Saw a couple of old timers that have seen better days, saw a couple of newbies but they where nodding and had the shakes. Just went home for dinner.

  12. #4798

    Anyone have any idea how Michelle died

    This is the second time in the past two months I google searched a name and found an obituary. I assume it was drug related. It seems like those a* holes that want to steal your wallet and all kind of other under handed s*t stay out there for ever but the ones that are still decent human beings regardless to the life style they live are taken away. Maybe it's gods way of saying "your too nice for this, I'm bringing you home"

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  13. #4797
    [QUOTE=CapeMay0069; 1498819]
    Quote Originally Posted by TrueNoob 86  [View Original Post]
    Ok so I was advised to start my research on the hobby by reading the "22 rules for street mongering" and everyone's old post for information. Why I seriously thought that there would be a beginner's FAQ shows you how much of a noob I really am.

    Yeah, go ahead and walk the stroll! Give up your power and protection to the streets. Head into some girl's crib or unknown spot she suggests. No problem there. Drug using girls are always Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent!

    It seems like your desperate state has you looking for short cuts and nothing will stop you. After all what does the collective knowledge of this site really know? The heck with those stupid 22 Rules! Yeah, go for it! Dive in! You don't need no stinkin' education!

    Er. Go rub one out, or two. My advice, again fwiw. Think with the BIG head before allowing the little one to steer you into the School of Hard Knocks.

    Wow that's kind of a harsh response. I got into this 'hobby' back in 90, 91 I was in my early 20's and fresh out of the Marines, had no fears, no website like this and I will admit now that I look back no brains. I think back on the abandon blds, houses, and parks that I let SW's take me too I'm lucky to still be alive, But I will say this Philly is a different jungle now. The 'game' is pretty much the same but the rules and the arena have drastically changed.

    My advice to you is you need to practice and build confidence. To this day I park and use the 'boots on the ground' method. To me it just feels safer then pulling over and picking up from a car with a license plate tied to your name and address. Now having said that these days I would not park on or near the Ave (or any hot spot in philly for that matter) AFTER DARK.

    A / C is a great place to get your feet wet and to learn and hone your skills. The strip in AC is relatively safe at any time of night due to the amount people and traffic that is always there. It is here where you can learn to develop your 'monger senses', learn the do's and don'ts and feel out what your approach and limits are going to be and if you want to pursue this hobby / addiction.

    Yes I said addiction, for a good part of the 90's mongering was a weekly thing for me, there were nights that I would blow a tank of gas going from one local to another to find what I wanted. Now 20 some years later I still have those urges, I have a slit cut in the carpet of my car and every greenback I can hide away goes there to I build up enough to take off work and go on a hunt.

    Take it slow, take your time, and think before every move, above all safety first!
    $$ Did you know true working girls don't do hard drugs? Philly woudl have you believe all pro's do drugs, you= so untrue just take a trip to the west coast.

  14. #4796
    Quote Originally Posted by HemlockBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Military guy going home for the first time in 6 years after being stationed in japan. Have read some of the reports but I am so out of touch I have no idea what is what anymore. Can someone point me roundabout in the right direction for some play and what the general prices are?
    $$$ Whats your flav?

  15. #4795

    Hey need some help

    Military guy going home for the first time in 6 years after being stationed in japan. Have read some of the reports but I am so out of touch I have no idea what is what anymore. Can someone point me roundabout in the right direction for some play and what the general prices are?

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