"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[ChiGuy606]

If one of the partners is truley concerned about getting tested, I do not see the harm in it. From a guys standpoint, especially if it looks like it has a chance to be a really special and potentially long term relationship, there really aren't many downsides to getting tested. You can find a place to do it anonymously in virtually any city in the US. And you can even pick up an anonymous kit at a drug store and get your results online (for HIV anyway).

If that truley makes the baby more comfortable.

Don't forget that a baby who is more comfortable and more open with you = better sex!

[SubCmdr]

Mandy,

Anyone who is having sex has to be aware of STD's. Are we always, absolutely positively certain what our sexual partners are doing when we are not looking? Maybe it has been my relationship history and what I have seen through my life. I assume all of my partners are having sex with others. The majority of the time I have been right!

My ECSB (East Coast Sugar Baby) requested STD testing before meeting with me. I agreed. When I could not get tested and the test results before our next meeting, I told her I was going to cancel the meeting. She, did not want me to cancel and we had a mini argument (over cancelling the meeting, not about the STD testing). Well we met. When time came to be intimate she requested that we use a condom. The issue has not been spoken about since.

The request did not bother me. But I've have gotten into arguments with SB's over safer sex issues that have resulted in us going our separate ways. My last argument went like this:

SB: I don't want to get a STD. Have you been tested recently?

Me: No, testing does not protect you.

SB: Well bring protection.

Me: Fine, condoms protect you, but not from all dangers. Did you want to go bare? If that is the case then I'll get tested.

SB: No, I don't put myself out there like that. You know you can get a STD from oral sex.

Me: Yes, you can get a STD from oral sex but the risk is reduced. You want use condoms for oral sex? If that is the case better have something to protect me if you want me to go down on you.

End of conversation. LOL!

What people do and what people should do are two different things. How many people text and drive? It comes down to absolute vs. Relative risk.

SubCmdr Out.

Hi guys,

I'm working with another baby who reached out wanting help. She said something that seemed odd to me so I wanted to run it by you all. She's apparently asking any Pot SD to have an STD testing (hers was done recently). While I think this is something that anyone who has multiple partners should do on their own, my opinion is that its a bit offputing for someone to require it of you.

Have any of you run across this before? What are you thoughts on it?

Thanks!

Mandy

[SbabyBlog]

Hi guys,

I'm working with another baby who reached out wanting help. She said something that seemed odd to me so I wanted to run it by you all. She's apparently asking any Pot SD to have an STD testing (hers was done recently). While I think this is something that anyone who has multiple partners should do on their own, my opinion is that its a bit offputing for someone to require it of you.

Have any of you run across this before? What are you thoughts on it?

Thanks!

Mandy

[RichmondDude]

I'm new to reading these post. Not new to game, but some of these post are really out there, can't believe how long some go, like short stories. LOL. I had a nice little 23 black sb, but she recently told me she is out of the game. She was good-fair, going to miss her, but ill find another no doubt. Well untill the next short story.

[FeelGoodMd]

So what kind of dog do you have?

A Basset Hound. He has character; and really droopy jowls.

And yes, the "hound dog" analogies have already occurred to me.

[ChiGuy606]

Unless you call my dog ugly, that is.

So what kind of dog do you have?

My Gods man! You are rapidly turning into an SD-artist. My only comment at the moment is I wholeheartedly agree with you about sprinkling sugar around. I find myself doing the same thing quite often. IE, I'll suggest the baby take a taxi to meet me at some watering hole which probably costs $10 to get to, but I'll give her 40 for cab fare (to make sure it's enough) , etc.

That seems to work fairly well with me, at least in my limited experience.

Keep it up & thank you again for the play-by-play.

[FeelGoodMd]

Thank you for the welcome gentlemen and Mandy ("and lady" is too awkward). I thought I'd provide an update on the status of my practice.

Patient 4 (37 year old Cauc, moved back from Canada, lives 2 hours away) was all set to come for our M&G last Wednesday (planned for 6:00) , but as the day wore on I kept getting texts saying work had taken unexpected turns and she would be a little later. I tell her if she comes all the way to me I could meet as late as 7:30. Finally, around 6, she texts to say she can meet around 8, if I'm still free, halfway between her town and mine. I tell her that won't work, and halfheartedly express hope it will work out some other time. She apologizes profusely. We do the same dance. We're now tentatively set to meet next Friday afternoon, but I'm going in knowing that I have Patient 2 (36 year old Cauc, probably semi-pro or former pro trying to exit) whom I can call on short notice if Pt 4 falls through again.

Patient 1 (23 year old AA) texts me first thing Monday morning, sending me a picture of a dildo between her tits with the caption that she'd rather it be me. I agree that I'd be a much better choice, and we make plans to meet Thursday evening to correct the situation. Lots of hot and heavy texting and I'm'ing (with one smoking Skype session) in the intervening days, and I'm getting all hot and bothered imagining our electronic fantasies coming to life. She seems a lot dirtier than even our first trip to the FC gave a hint at. It is not to be, however. She texts me Thursday at noon to say she has to pick her cousin up from the airport that night. I'm beginning to wonder if I'm being jerked around, or if she's just another flaky early-20-something. The text of her fingers buried in her pussy that she sends me that night partly makes up for it.

Fortunately, all was not lost for Thursday night! About 3 hours after Pt 1 cancels her appointment, Patient 10 makes initial contact through SA. She is a 22 year old recent college graduate who "likes my profile," and wants to know if I would "like to get to know [her] so we can help each other out." I respond that I had plans fall through that evening, and we could get to know each other over dinner in a few hours if she's so inclined. Probably not the best move ever, but I'm still imagining what I must have missed with Pt 1, so I have a moment of weakness. Pt 10 is up for meeting that night, so I give her a time and a restaurant. She asks for pics, but I tell her to send me one through my email and I'll find her. She agrees.

Dinner goes well (though I learn that I should find out if my patient is a Vegan before I set up a date at a steakhouse) but ends quickly (her salad didn't take long to eat, and I don't order large meals because I'll still have to eat with the Head Nurse when I get home). I lament the fact that time has passed so quickly, and suggest we could continue our conversation somewhere more private. She is agreeable, but my happiness is tempered by the suspicion that I could have saved the money that I just spent on the meal and taken her straight to the FC. My mood picks up again when I remind myself that we're going to the FC.

We get to the closest hotel (another lesson learned, always have a reservation ready) and all that is available is 2 double bed room. It doesn't matter. We get up to the room and I go to relieve myself. When I get out she is stark naked (save for a necklace she claims not to have taken off since she "became a woman. Whether that was her first cycle or her first sexual encounter is never clarified, though I suspect they may not have been too far apart). She tells me to come over to her, and she gets on her knees, releases my stethoscope, and gives a sloppy, enthusiastic BJ that ends with her swallowing everything except for one little dribble down her chin that I see when she looks up at me and smiles. I point out the error, and she corrects it. We play with each others' bodies for a while as we have some more "get to know you" time, and I discover that she is almost flawless (other than ink and piercings, which aren't really my thing but may be growing on me after this). She is also a foot-and-a-half shorter than me and almost a third of my weight, with natural C's (I inspected them thoroughly). We play a few rounds of "Olympics" where she stars as the gymnast and I am the uneven bars.

When it's time to say our goodbyes, I slip the modest gift (lower than my usual) into her purse. We kiss goodbye at her car, and before I get back to mine I get a "thank you thank you thank you!" text. I see her as a reliable standby, since her job ends at the same time I close my (other) practice each day and she says she can be ready to go "whenever" as long as she has time to go by her house and change into "funner" clothes. I'll never respect her, but we can certainly have some fun.

After my serendipitous night with Pt 10, I go into my Friday afternoon M&G with Patient 8 (early 40's newly licensed massage therapist) with high hopes. She's also a 2 hour drive away, so we meet in the middle. I meet, and she's almost an hour late. We have our meal and chat for the next 3 hours, but she is doing about 90% of the talking. Fortunately, I don't mind as I'm looking at her discrete but revealing dress, and her sexy green eyes framed by her red hair. I nod and say uh-huh alot. In the end, however, her life has too much drama, she lives too far away, and wants too much sugar. The hour has gotten way to late to proceed to the FC without raising suspicion in the Head Nurse, so I don't even suggest it. I give her $ for gas (probably 3x what it cost her to get there) , thinking that as our visit grows more distant and she is unable to find someone to meet her expectations for sugar, she'll remember my generosity. If she'll make the whole drive, and we spend our time doing things other than talking, there are possibilities. The likelihood of that is about a 3 out of 10, however.

Today was a breakfast M&G with Patient 9 (27 year old early career blueblood whose current income and lifestyle she'd used to don't match) , who lives in the same general area as Patient 8, so we met in the same general area. I know there will be no FC, as she has already said she has to meet her parents, driving in from 300 miles away, in 3 hours back at her home. The chemistry doesn't seem there, initially, but as our conversation continues the blueblood starts to thaw and we start to talk more comfortably. After a couple hours she says she has to go, and I pay the bill ($40 for a $17 tab, but we had camped out and occupied the table through at least 3 rotations of diners, so I felt badly for the waitress). I escort her to her car and we make tentative plans to meet again in a couple weeks. I'm about to kiss her goodbye when the waitress bursts through the back door and calls out,"did you mean to leave two 20's?" I assure her I did, because she had provided good service and was very nice even though we had been KOA at her table. She departs the scene, and the goodbye kiss I receive is much longer and more passionate than the one I had been anticipating 30 seconds before (wasn't even sure it would be lip-to-lip, in fact). Thank god for that appreciative and conscientious waitress! I'm fairly confident there will be a trip to the FC when I see her 2 weeks hence, especially after I gave her. 5 for gas. I was planning to give it to her anyhow, but if she wants to assume the hot kiss goodbye played a roll in my generosity who am I to stop her?

I make the drive back home, where I have a lunch M&G with Patient 7 (23 year old student and single mother, cancelled on me earlier in the week). She is even hotter in person than she is in her pictures, and has the red hair and green eyes I am so fond of. Unfortunately, I discover during lunch that she is a complete dead fish personality wise, and is almost immediately all business. She's stunningly beautiful, her expectations are just above my limits but she is able to host, and she's willing to go to the FC "eventually." I tell her we should both think it over, but I've already done my thinking. There's just no chemistry, and I don't see any developing. If she inquires further, I'll tell her that. If I don't hear from her again. That's OK.

Even though the week was very hit and miss, I discovered Pt 10, who is sexy and great in bed, with fairly low expectations; am still in contact with Pt 1, with hot and heavy sexting giving hints of good things to come; have Pt 2 as a reliable backup (texted her to say "this week's no good," got a reply "hopefully next week, then?") ; laid some groundwork with patients 8 and 9, with fairly good prospects for Pt 9; examined but will likely to discharge Pt 7 from my practice; and still have tentative plans for a M&G with Pt 4, though I'll believe it when I see her at the restaurant. I'm developing a few more prospects in the wings, but I'll spare you the details. I've gone on long enough as it is.

Oh, lest I forget, I learned a couple good lessons. First, before making dinner reservations make sure you know what the patient likes to eat. Second, always have a room reserved close by, lest you wind up in a FC with two double beds!

Always on call,

Dr. Feelgood.

PS: I'm taking the approach that sprinkling a little sugar at the M&G can reap larger rewards in the future. I welcome any thoughts or feedback the rest of you can offer. Don't worry if you disagree with my approach. I appreciate constructive criticism and you can't offend me. Unless you call my dog ugly, that is.

[ChiGuy606]

I wanted to mention one additional item regarding my most recent encounter. I booked my hotel through an online travel site, and did not notice until later a rather curious error with the reservation system.

When I arrived at the registration desk, the agent could not find my reservation in the system at all. The hotel was completely sold out and of course panic started set in as I was on a very short timeframe before my baby was due to arrive.

Luckily I had my confirmation email with me and she was able to locate me via the conf number. It was then that we noticed the curious error. For sake of argument, let's say my real life name is 'Dick Longsteel' (of course it would be!). The booking website happened to truncate my name in the reservation system to 'Dick Lo'. When I initially approached the desk announcing "Mr Richard Longsteel has arrived to check into my jacuzzi suite with the heart shaped waterbed", she was not able to find my name in the system.

Now after we determined the error via the confirmation email, she was able to give me my room, and take my regularly named credit card for the incidental charges. HOWEVER, she said it was apparently IMPOSSIBLE to change my last name from 'Lo' to 'Longsteel' because I had "booked the room via a 3rd party site". Well my brothers, I tried to feign my disappointment in not being able to book the room under my proper surname, but the lightbulb certainly went off inside my head.

All paperwork for the room, the receipt, the bar tab, even the checkout system on the in-room TV had the incorrect last name associated with it.

You can bet that the next time I make a reservation, I will be sure to cut off the spelling of my last name to just one or two letters so that it will transfer to the hotel's reservation system that way. Just be sure that if you try this system yourself, that you actually bring a copy of the confirmation with you to ensure that you actually can get into the room.

Good luck!

[ChiGuy606]

Second date has been completed with my voluptuous blonde paralegal baby. I must say I really really am enjoying this one. She has been completely 'on the ball' as far as reliability, safety, and communication. One truly could not ask for an easier candiate to hook up with. She absolutely knows the game, and is about as accommodating as they come. It had been exactly 2 weeks since our first date, and she has corresponded with me on about 10 out of the 14 days.

In the days leading up to our last meeting, she virtually begged me via texts and emails for me to tell her all my deepest darkest fantasies so she can be the one to fullfil anything I could possibly desire. We built up quite a list (column header 'Semen Extraction Procedures for July 18, 2012' sorted by priority of course) and I must confess we made a valiant attempt to check as many off as possible last night.

I arranged another hotel room downtown near where we both work and left the office about 4:00pm to check in and get everything situated. Since it was 148f in the city yesterday, I took the opportunity to grab a quick shower as well, and get a few beverages from a takeout store.

She left the office at 5:00 and knocked on the door at about 5:15. She arrived in the room looking fabulous and we shared a quick hug and I let her in. I made her a drink and we chatted for a few minutes. We did not have much to say in person honestly since we had talked so much during the week. I tried relaying some humorous story to her about one of my recent travels when she interrupted me in mid sentence and said "I don't mean to change the subject, but why are your pants still on?". She then sat down in a chair that I had strategically placed in the room (and just happend to be standing in front of at the time) , unzipped me and proceeded to check off box #1 of the 'Semen extraction procedure List' appropriately labeled "Big sloppy wet blowjob!".

I am not going to go into all the gory details, but we spent about 3 hours of bliss with each other last night. I will however give a hint at list item #3. It was entitled 'Slip and Slide' and involved stripping the hotel bed, laying down all the bath towels, a bottle of massage oil, and Mr Happy finding a glorious place to hide in between those 38DDD's.

When our time was up, we both needed a shower, and I was getting pretty late for my checkin with the warden. The room was a bit of a disaster, so I just left a nice tip for the cleaning people. There was a very nice looking lounge in the lobby of this particular establishment, and I did feel the need to sit at the bar and have a cold beer by myself and partially reflect on the evenings activities before finally heading home.

All in all, this is really turning out to be something fun. She is very much having a good time as well, and I noticed today that she has deleted her SA account. She is still not my ideal body type if I were to have to pick the perfect woman, but she is so easy to work with, and so unbelievably willing and accommodating, that I am going to have to let this go for a while and see where it takes us.

Till then, I have a M&G date tomorrow after work with yet another voluptuous blonde (I am becoming a bit transparent it seems) who has recently moved to the city to go back to school after doing a stint in Las Vegas as a poker dealer. This one has been completely adorable to me in emails, sending silly electronic greeting cards, etc. The photos I've seen of her so far have been nice, but have not yet seen a full body shot. This of course is why we are doing a M&G, and I'll just hope for the best.

On the following Tuesday, I have one more potential cocktail meeting planned with a STUNNING 22 year old who seems to know what she's doing. She is a college senior finishing up her last semester at a school about 2 hours away, and is getting ready to move back home. My worry here is that babies of this caliber have traditionally fallen out of what my normal comfortable budget usually is, but I just may have to splurge for a while if this goes well.

Glad to see more traffic on this thread, and keep it up brothers!

[ChiGuy606]

Dodge,

FWIW, I can attest they are not all like that. Some are for sure, and I try really hard to steer away from the ones that are (as should we all).

But if you look long enough, you can certainly find the diamonds in the rough.

In the case of Mr Rat's POT, good riddance. You probably saved yourself a lot of headache by not pursing that one. Wow!

It's all business with these chicks and they are willing to exchange pussy for money. That's it. Their aim is to give as little out as possible while getting the maximum in return. If that means making some poor shlub feel like she has feelings for him so he'll come up off of more cash, then that's what she's going to do.

They're working girls, dude. It's what they do.

[Member #4183]

Yet another new experience from a Pot. I had decided I didn't want to pursue this one, not even for a M&G, so she tells me she thinks I owe her something for her time, which consisted of several emails and texts. I am continually amazed at the mindset of some of these women!

It's all business with these chicks and they are willing to exchange pussy for money. That's it. Their aim is to give as little out as possible while getting the maximum in return. If that means making some poor shlub feel like she has feelings for him so he'll come up off of more cash, then that's what she's going to do.

They're working girls, dude. It's what they do.

[Magic Rat]

Yet another new experience from a Pot. I had decided I didn't want to pursue this one, not even for a M&G, so she tells me she thinks I owe her something for her time, which consisted of several emails and texts. I am continually amazed at the mindset of some of these women!

[TravelinSD]

Hi Scott,

I wouldn't give up hope here. If I've learned anything from my last SB and the myriad of POT that I've seen over the last 6 months its that communications is not immediate among today's 20-somethings. Also, once a text relationship is established I don't even think about email. That is so over 40, haha. Text is the only way and I've found it is not uncommon at all to go three days without a response, even though I respond 90% of the time immediately to texts that I get. I've concluded it's just their mindset. So, be patient and you may find your phone chiming.

Good luck!

Drummer.

My brothers,

From this day forward, I am imposing an iron-clad 48 hour gag order on myself after meeting with any new, untested baby before posting anything. After our delightful (I thought) lunch yesterday, which ended in some very pleasant, mutual (I thought) kissing, my SNB has gone into hiding. I sent her a charming (I thought) text last night, and another equally charming one this morning via email, and nothing, nada, goose egg, bagel and so on. I just can't be so wrong about these little fish, can I?

We had already talked about the "arrangement" and she knew there would be sex involved, and was down with that, so she said, and I know I'm not a bad kisser, so WTF?

I hope it's nothing bad with her daughter.

Mystified,

Scott

[ChiGuy606]

Good Lord! The mind of a POT boggles the logical mind some times don't they? Has she had an arrangement before? If this was her first, perhaps the reality of it set in by the time she got home and cold feet ensued?

Most likely it is cold feet and perhaps an email ensuring her that you are only looking to have a mutual good time (mutual is the key word) and that since you like her so much you are willing to go slow (within reason of course, but don't tell her that) and that you will do everything you can to make her comfortable.

But hell, I don't need to be giving you advice. Just don't let it get you down, they flake out on the best of us!

BTW, this is being posted in the FC. Legally Blonde just went home. Report to follow!

Stay positive.

Chi.

My brothers,

From this day forward, I am imposing an iron-clad 48 hour gag order on myself after meeting with any new, untested baby before posting anything. After our delightful (I thought) lunch yesterday, which ended in some very pleasant, mutual (I thought) kissing, my SNB has gone into hiding. I sent her a charming (I thought) text last night, and another equally charming one this morning via email, and nothing, nada, goose egg, bagel and so on. I just can't be so wrong about these little fish, can I?

We had already talked about the "arrangement" and she knew there would be sex involved, and was down with that, so she said, and I know I'm not a bad kisser, so WTF?

I hope it's nothing bad with her daughter.

Mystified,

Scott

[F Scott]

My brothers,

From this day forward, I am imposing an iron-clad 48 hour gag order on myself after meeting with any new, untested baby before posting anything. After our delightful (I thought) lunch yesterday, which ended in some very pleasant, mutual (I thought) kissing, my SNB has gone into hiding. I sent her a charming (I thought) text last night, and another equally charming one this morning via email, and nothing, nada, goose egg, bagel and so on. I just can't be so wrong about these little fish, can I?

We had already talked about the "arrangement" and she knew there would be sex involved, and was down with that, so she said, and I know I'm not a bad kisser, so WTF?

I hope it's nothing bad with her daughter.

Mystified,

Scott