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  1. #10860

    Toy of Atlanta

    Hi guys,

    Has anyone seen Toy lately? I used to be a semi regular, and saw her a couple of times late last fall after her brief "retirement.". I contacted her during the holidays and she texted that she would be available the week after Christmas. Haven't been able to get a hold of her since and no BP ads. Anyway, I really appreciate any feedback if anyone knows anything.

    Thanks!

  2. #10859
    Thanks for all the helpful and intelligent replies to my BP impressions. It's a rough world in the USA p4p scene.

    Well, I've got a dinner date and extracurriculars planned with my fav UTR tomorrow. On the one hand, a regular can be a little boring after N years, but on the other hand it's a sure thing like a mistress, except that since you are paying for it, discretion is guaranteed.

    Back to our regular programming now.

  3. #10858

    Pretty much the same

    Quote Originally Posted by Snake27  [View Original Post]
    I don't have a huge amount of experience with backpage or the former CL, but I have some impressions. I'm wondering if others can confirm these from their experience or want to explain?

    1. A significant fraction of pics are fake. I bet it's 75+. Again, I don't have huge statistics to back this up, so I'd be curious to see what others have found. Fake meaning you show up and it's definitely a less attractive girl than in the pic. Well, the motive is obvious. What do you do about it and how do you mitigate the risk?

    2. Most phone calls don't even get answered! Often they go to a voicemail, and sometimes their vmail is full. Once a girl picked up and said she only exchanges text messages (?) and hung up. What all this does this mean? Why so inefficient? I guess one reason could be the girls get a lot of BS calls. Plus they fear stings.

    3. I've tried googling the phone number. What does it mean if you can't find their number in google? Possible sting? (and frequently in this case you can't find another ad for the same girl either)

    4. Once you do find a girl who is a good deal and is a little "under the radar" (doesn't advertise much, etc) , you're better off sticking with her as a regular.

    All this inefficiency because it's illegal, I guess.
    1) I think the percentage of fake pics is higher for certain types of providers. I seem to notice that those that like the young, spinner types run into fake pics more than those that do BBW or thick-girl types. Others experience may differ but if spinners are what you're into then be extra careful when looking at pics. I tend to deal with thick girls and fake pics has not been as big a problem although no doubt it happens. The two ways I deal with fake pics is to expect the pics to be fake (reduce expectations) and look at all the ads over a period of time. Girls that use fake pics change them periodically when the old ones aren't bringing in new customers. If I see same number but completely new girls I skip it.

    2) This is a good one. I don't like high volume providers so full VMs is a good sign for me. Also I tend not to call girls around when their ads are running. Their attitudes are poor and they tend to want more $$. When the ads aren't running and they need $$ they'll pick up and be more friendly.

    3) Girls like dudes use and throw out prepaid burners all the time. So brand new numbers may not show. A lot of the very best providers are part timers that do not post often or are new to the business. I prefer part timers and newbies over full time pros any day. I know lots of readers will (and have) agreed on that. So if there is a new number but it's local I will at least call and see what's up. Besides I don't see as many BP / CL stings for guys. Most of the LE activity seems to be towards the providers unless you are into SWs. See the SW forum for details.

    4) This is obvious but it's worth commenting on. I have noticed the quality of BP providers getting worse and worse. I know others feel the same. It used to be that on a given day I might find 3 I want to call but now it's probably 1 or 2 a week. CL has been a little better of late. So yes if you find a good 1 or 2 nurture them as long as you can. For a lot of girls as soon as they find a FT job they're gone. Until money gets tight again.

    Good Hunting

  4. #10857
    Quote Originally Posted by Snake27  [View Original Post]
    I don't have a huge amount of experience with backpage or the former CL, but I have some impressions. I'm wondering if others can confirm these from their experience or want to explain?
    My Take.

    Most if not all of your questions have been answered but I will add some pointers. El GOOG is not the end all be all of all searches and just because its not indexed on there doesn't mean its non existent. Yahoo, Bing and another site work for me and have aided me in making my selections in the past. What I look for when I search is this.

    -Are her services local or are they nationwider.

    -Do all her online pictures match? Extra scrutiny for professional photos and $40 quickie specials.

    -Is this really her number or someone else named xxxxx selling pit-bulls and used tires in Clayton county.

    -If she doesn't pick up, I dial the next number.

    UTR girls are good but you can only have them in rotation for so long before you get tired of her or realize that you're number 15 on her depth chart. So its a never ending search for new pussy.

    Used to have a regular that lived on her own in a condo on paces ferry that used to charge me 60. She was around 5'1 100 lbs very pretty and stacked in her own little way and the pussy? Grade A-1. There never were time limits when I saw her and as we progressed it began to take a lot of will power not to pull off the rubber. Broke it off when I realized what I was getting into and she moved away. Did get my moneys worth but lost a little in the end.

  5. #10856
    Quote Originally Posted by Snake27  [View Original Post]
    I.

    All this inefficiency because it's illegal, I guess.
    Sorry for the 2nd post. Forgot to add:

    Inefficiency yes. But I don't blame illegality (alone) for all of the inefficiency problems.

    Even if everything was perfectly legal, the profession would still have a huge social stigma. As a result many providers would still want to protect their real world identity. So you still would have the fake pics.

    Missed phone calls, etc. Try doing business with any legit service provider (accountant, lawyer, salesman) that is a "single shingle" and doesn't have a receptionist to answer his calls. You get a lot of voicemails.

    (You didn't say this but) , Poor business practices in general. Look at who you are dealing with. Legality isn't going to fix this

  6. #10855
    Quote Originally Posted by Snake27  [View Original Post]
    I don't have a huge amount of experience with backpage or the former CL, but I have some impressions. I'm wondering if others can confirm these from their experience or want to explain?

    1. A significant fraction of pics are fake. I bet it's 75+. Again, I don't have huge statistics to back this up, so I'd be curious to see what others have found. Fake meaning you show up and it's definitely a less attractive girl than in the pic. Well, the motive is obvious. What do you do about it and how do you mitigate the risk?

    2. Most phone calls don't even get answered! Often they go to a voicemail, and sometimes their vmail is full. Once a girl picked up and said she only exchanges text messages (?) and hung up. What all this does this mean? Why so inefficient? I guess one reason could be the girls get a lot of BS calls. Plus they fear stings.

    3. I've tried googling the phone number. What does it mean if you can't find their number in google? Possible sting? (and frequently in this case you can't find another ad for the same girl either)

    4. Once you do find a girl who is a good deal and is a little "under the radar" (doesn't advertise much, etc) , you're better off sticking with her as a regular.

    All this inefficiency because it's illegal, I guess.
    Some interesting points. A couple of thoughts:

    1. Pics. Yes, w / o trying to be scientific about how many I think we'd all agree: A lot! Legit reason other than rip off or being misleading is to protect identity.

    And yes I have met some that, while not them in the pic, it is representative. I suggest two tactics: a) IN A POLITE, NOT-CONFRONTATIONAL WAY, suggest to her that the pics in the ad look like a professional model shoot and you doubt they are her and see what she says be) inform her that if she is not what is in the pics you will leave and she will not get paid.

    2. Lot's of VM recordings is the norm. She is likely answering her own phone / an independent provider. She is either busy or not available when you call. This isn't a bad thing. Move to the next one. If you really want to see her, don't need your itch scratched immediately and can accept a return call leave a message.

    As an aside, with a higher class of provider that screens, doesn't do same day appts. Etc. Going back and forth on email a couple of times is the norm.

    3. No phone number in Google (typically) means this phone number has not been used before by a provider that has been reviewed (at this #) and / or the name has been altered in ads so it won't show in a search engine (e. G. Seven7O-Five-5-FiveIIThree6)

    4. If you find some one you like of course keep seeing her.

  7. #10854
    Banned Member


    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by Snake27  [View Original Post]
    I don't have a huge amount of experience with backpage or the former CL, but I have some impressions. I'm wondering if others can confirm these from their experience or want to explain?

    1. A significant fraction of pics are fake. I bet it's 75+. Again, I don't have huge statistics to back this up, so I'd be curious to see what others have found. Fake meaning you show up and it's definitely a less attractive girl than in the pic. Well, the motive is obvious. What do you do about it and how do you mitigate the risk?

    2. Most phone calls don't even get answered! Often they go to a voicemail, and sometimes their vmail is full. Once a girl picked up and said she only exchanges text messages (?) and hung up. What all this does this mean? Why so inefficient? I guess one reason could be the girls get a lot of BS calls. Plus they fear stings.

    3. I've tried googling the phone number. What does it mean if you can't find their number in google? Possible sting? (and frequently in this case you can't find another ad for the same girl either)

    4. Once you do find a girl who is a good deal and is a little "under the radar" (doesn't advertise much, etc) , you're better off sticking with her as a regular.

    All this inefficiency because it's illegal, I guess.
    Have to agree with everything you said except #3. Not sure why Google won't always find phone numbers but I doubt it has anything to do with LE.

  8. #10853

    Backpage impressions

    I don't have a huge amount of experience with backpage or the former CL, but I have some impressions. I'm wondering if others can confirm these from their experience or want to explain?

    1. A significant fraction of pics are fake. I bet it's 75+. Again, I don't have huge statistics to back this up, so I'd be curious to see what others have found. Fake meaning you show up and it's definitely a less attractive girl than in the pic. Well, the motive is obvious. What do you do about it and how do you mitigate the risk?

    2. Most phone calls don't even get answered! Often they go to a voicemail, and sometimes their vmail is full. Once a girl picked up and said she only exchanges text messages (?) and hung up. What all this does this mean? Why so inefficient? I guess one reason could be the girls get a lot of BS calls. Plus they fear stings.

    3. I've tried googling the phone number. What does it mean if you can't find their number in google? Possible sting? (and frequently in this case you can't find another ad for the same girl either)

    4. Once you do find a girl who is a good deal and is a little "under the radar" (doesn't advertise much, etc) , you're better off sticking with her as a regular.

    All this inefficiency because it's illegal, I guess.

  9. #10852
    Quote Originally Posted by Niteluvr  [View Original Post]
    Went to see Lucia today:

    http://atlanta.backpage.com/Therapeu...calls/10058362

    The woman who answered the door is the woman in the pics (Lucia) but at least 5-10 years older. She mentioned she had a 20-year-old daughter, so she's at least in her 40s. She's from Panama, about 5'2" with shorter hair and a different perm from that in the pic. She has a nice body and tits. Massage was $100 for an hour so I assumed a HE would be had. NOT! The massage was decent and she didn't shave time, but when the moment of truth came, she refused, claiming she worried about LE. I tried to assure her I was not LE but no dice. She would not even assist in a self-induced HE, saying she would leave me alone and I could do it if I wanted. This one is not worth it guys.
    I think I had posted about a bad experience with this group before. There office is near a lake and it seems pretty legit. Vikki, who has disappeared, was a good massage and know how to take care of things. I think they are affiliated with the 'blodnes' in Alpharetta. I would stay away from both. They have on-site security.

  10. #10851
    Banned Member


    Posts: 13634
    Quote Originally Posted by Low Key69  [View Original Post]
    Uh, any woman with any looks can be had for free whats your point?
    Great! What's the going rate for Angelina Jolie?

  11. #10850
    Quote Originally Posted by ShortFoot  [View Original Post]
    Point well taken but I can pick up girls with her looks for free anytime!
    Uh, any woman with any looks can be had for free whats your point?

  12. #10849

    Tineye

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeofmypants  [View Original Post]
    Looks pretty cute but googling the phone number gave nada.
    Same for tineye search.

  13. #10848

    Sasha Von

    Quote Originally Posted by Popeofmypants  [View Original Post]
    Looks pretty cute but googling the phone number gave nada.
    Yeah, thats what makes me think twice about calling her. I if I can't find postings from her in the past, and also no reviews, I'm not about to take the plunge!

  14. #10847
    Quote Originally Posted by LoganSt  [View Original Post]
    I saw this posting in backpage, she has only two posts under her number, both recent. Has anyone visited Miss Sasha Von?

    http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEs...te-19/11430120

    Thanks!
    Looks pretty cute but googling the phone number gave nada.

  15. #10846

    Any info on Sasha Von?

    I saw this posting in backpage, she has only two posts under her number, both recent. Has anyone visited Miss Sasha Von?

    http://atlanta.backpage.com/FemaleEs...te-19/11430120

    Thanks!

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