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  1. #5034

    Haaarumph!

    Quote Originally Posted by B Beall  [View Original Post]
    Yeah, except that isn't what everybody is saying. Some seem to think that Abby has no right to charge more than Taco Bell. Worse, they imagine they can review the establishment without ever having been there.
    Fucking A, that is it in a nutshell.

    I can't understand the mentality of a few on this board. If you have never visited Abby, which I have not, then how the hell can bash her for charging what she charges if there are those are willing to reach her fee level. I have thought about it, but I choose not to. That is the basis of fact, you don't have to see her, and you are free to see anyone you feel comfortable shelling out $5 or $$$$$$$ for, so why would you say she is arrogant in her attitude? She is hot, she is supposedly very good at what she does, GOOD FOR HER!

    Here is the problem. A few of you, I won't call out specific names, think that any provider is just one version of a SW. Not true. Some of the ladies I have come across are very intelligent, beautiful, normal hard working girls. I enjoy their company. That is why I am in the hobby.

    I don't have to have her get on her knees and have her look up at me so I feel superior. So, if you have to roll quarters or bring wads of cash, I would say bashing a provider because of how YOU feel she should be, is idiotic. So shut up, and quit spooking people.

  2. #5033
    Quote Originally Posted by Inboater01  [View Original Post]
    I think everyone is basically saying the same thing here. There are times for Fast Food and times for Fine Dining.
    Yeah, except that isn't what everybody is saying. Some seem to think that Abby has no right to charge more than Taco Bell. Worse, they imagine they can review the establishment without ever having been there.

  3. #5032

    2 cups?

    Quote Originally Posted by Inboater01  [View Original Post]
    I think everyone is basically saying the same thing here. There are times for Fast Food and times for Fine Dining. I think most in the hobby enjoy the Variety. I, for one, do not want the same experience each time. There are certainly "Diamonds in the Ruff" that make the landscape worth exploring. I do not have a problem booking a reservation at a high end establishment but do not want to receive a fast food experience. I have had the pleasure of dining with Abby and it a good thing for my wallet that I am from out of town. It is obvious from her many supporters (and I am one) that she is very accomplished. But, I feel that a high end reservation does not ensure that difficulties will not arise. Often the reservation may be more difficult to secure with such with high demand. Variety is the spice of life and there is room for all. ENJOY!
    She told me I as the one and only. DAUUUUMN IT!

  4. #5031

    Agreed

    Quote Originally Posted by Osirusss  [View Original Post]
    I totally agree. I will never pay less than 200 or more than 450. Thats just how I roll. If we ever reach a time where the high end girls go 600 and the low end girls go 150. Fuck it I'll just find something worthwhile on the side for free. Until prices re-adjust. This may seem silly, but this is the Osirusss Hobby Framework, and I stick to it. I have read the word "Capitalism" stated here and to be honest this hobby is one of very few business transactions done in the USA that the government doesn't have any direct control over. Thats why I love this hobby soo much. Capitalism in its purest form. I almost get the same pleasure out of screwing the Gov. Out of tax revenue than the act of seeing a high end Provider at 400 per hr. Almost.
    I think everyone is basically saying the same thing here. There are times for Fast Food and times for Fine Dining. I think most in the hobby enjoy the Variety. I, for one, do not want the same experience each time. There are certainly "Diamonds in the Ruff" that make the landscape worth exploring. I do not have a problem booking a reservation at a high end establishment but do not want to receive a fast food experience. I have had the pleasure of dining with Abby and it a good thing for my wallet that I am from out of town. It is obvious from her many supporters (and I am one) that she is very accomplished. But, I feel that a high end reservation does not ensure that difficulties will not arise. Often the reservation may be more difficult to secure with such with high demand. Variety is the spice of life and there is room for all. ENJOY!

  5. #5030

    Elle from Indy

    I had this dream the other day that I met a very sexy mature lady that went by the name of Elle. The reason I say it was a dream, is because reality for a schmuck like me couldn't be that great. She has a very nice warm cozy location in a nice area of town. She was sweet, kind and had the sexiest eyes you'll ever find. Her body had those perfect curves just where any man would want them. She had my little friends attention in no time. Now normally I'm just a 1 cup of coffee type of guy, but this sexy little sweetheart convinced me that 2 cups is the only way to go. And just for the record, in my dream she looked even sexier than her pictures. Treat her well guys, she's a sweetheart and Indy is so lucky to have her.

  6. #5029
    Quote Originally Posted by Luchi  [View Original Post]
    As for me I'm so thankful I thought with my big head and not the little else I'd be paying 400 dollars a hour, and not even my lawyer makes that kind of money.
    If you'd rather be screwed by your lawyer it's your business, but it's probably outside the purlieu of the board.

  7. #5028
    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Reiff  [View Original Post]
    I've seen at least a couple of the high end ladies your probably talking about, and I personally find that they bring so much more to the table than other ladies. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but every time I've seen a lady that advertises 2 or less the experience has always been so so. Its always a problem scheduling a date and time. They never seem to be on time. One hour turns into 20 minuites. The hotel room smells of smoke. They tend to speed up the service instead of taking their time and letting it last longer. And I spend the entire time hearing about all the problems going on in their life.

    There was a lady in the Cincinnati area that I had met a couple times and the first two visits went great. She was a sweet lady that advertised around 1 to 1. 4 pretty regularly. On visit 3, she had a friend show up and had to cancel after I made a 30 minute drive. Sent me a text and wouldn't answer the phone when I tried to call and see if we could meet later. Next time the fire alarm went off and she had to cancel because she was spoked. The fifth time I showed up at the hotel and after 45 minutes of trying to call and text her I went home. She said she forgot, but I confirmed 4 hours before. The sixth time I make the 30 minute drive and when I arrive I got a text saying she was running 1 hour behind. Thats when I finally came to my senses and said the heck with seeing her.

    With some of the high end ladies I've seen the experience for me has been 10 times better. I always feel like I'm treated like a king. They treat me like a close friend and really seem to care about making me happy. I'm never rushed and always leave feeling like a million dollars. To me they just seem like sweet caring ladies that really love what they do and they bring so much more passion. Heck, one of these sweet ladies even has me stick around once and a while so she can fix me a meal.

    I look at it like this. Two brothers go out and buy a new car. One buys a Chevy and the other buys a Lexus. Now the one that bought the Chevy could say there is no difference. Both vehicles get you from point A to point B. They both run on gas and both came with a good warranty. But the brother that bought the Lexus might just like a more luxurious and refined vehicle. Every one has different tastes and reasons for seeing these wonderful woman. I realize that times are tough, but the best things in life always cost a little more. You wouldn't expect to get a filet mignon for the same price as a chopped steak.

    I guess I don't think its fair to post a lot of negatives about about these high end ladies because some of them are truly sweethearts. And the ones I've seen have a body to die for. Just my 2 cents.
    I totally agree. I will never pay less than 200 or more than 450. Thats just how I roll. If we ever reach a time where the high end girls go 600 and the low end girls go 150. Fuck it I'll just find something worthwhile on the side for free. Until prices re-adjust. This may seem silly, but this is the Osirusss Hobby Framework, and I stick to it. I have read the word "Capitalism" stated here and to be honest this hobby is one of very few business transactions done in the USA that the government doesn't have any direct control over. Thats why I love this hobby soo much. Capitalism in its purest form. I almost get the same pleasure out of screwing the Gov. Out of tax revenue than the act of seeing a high end Provider at 400 per hr. Almost.

  8. #5027
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    Posts: 102
    Larry, thank you for making so many eloquent and respectfully made points. You definitely made a lot of sense to me however a few things need to be considered.

    First not all high end providers make you feel like a million bucks. I remember reading reviews about a provider who charged 300. Though she was very good looking she had all these rules and had issues about having her bodyguard around, etc. Needless to say she does not seem to be all the popular anymore.

    Also I have had some Mercedes so to speak for less than half of what some these high end providers. But yes, I have to weed through a bit of crap to find them and yes, sometimes some of them are not always so reliable. As many on this board know I really hate no shows. I can't believe you tried six times with the escorts who canceled on you so many times. She must have made quite a first impression.

    But the real question isn't whether one should ever partake in high end providers. Heaven's yes, I'd love to partake in high end providers as more often than not the service quality is more than those who charge lower prices.

    Again, the real question shouldn't be whether but how much is too much to pay. I know a lot of this depends on ones finances but I actually believe in such things as fair prices. And when Abbey went from 3 to 4 hundred it incensed me a bit. I don't believe in escorts trying to get as much money as possible and I don't believe in Johns trying to pay as little as possible. I'm sure there are members on this board that would give someone crap for talking a girl down to 5 bucks. Doesn't seem fair, nor does 300.

    That issue aside is it really worth making yourself poor to see a high end provider? Unless it's a once in a blue moon treat you either will put yourself in financial jeopardy or you're really well off and you can afford to throw around some fuck you money.

    Also if everyone thought this way we'd end up paying every cent we had trying to get the highest end escort we could afford thereby continually driving the price up. This in my opinion is where the realm of addiction comes in.

    As I suggested in my comments on naughtyreview about some men in relation to their high end providers can be overly grateful to receive sexual attention and lose their balance when it comes to the financial aspects to seeing an escort. In S and M they have a term for this. It's called financial submission.

    One more factor to note. I do think high end providers often tend to be better looking and if they are charging as much as they are there is a good chance they have a sense of entitlement which if one is perceptive can recognize hence cutting into the quality of the experience.

    Long story short your response has convinced me to be open to seeing some higher end providers within reason (I. E. $250-$300) but I'm going to be very selective and it will be few and far between.

    Quote Originally Posted by Larry Reiff  [View Original Post]
    I've seen at least a couple of the high end ladies your probably talking about, and I personally find that they bring so much more to the table than other ladies. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but every time I've seen a lady that advertises 2 or less the experience has always been so so. Its always a problem scheduling a date and time. They never seem to be on time. One hour turns into 20 minuites. The hotel room smells of smoke. They tend to speed up the service instead of taking their time and letting it last longer. And I spend the entire time hearing about all the problems going on in their life.

    There was a lady in the Cincinnati area that I had met a couple times and the first two visits went great. She was a sweet lady that advertised around 1 to 1. 4 pretty regularly. On visit 3, she had a friend show up and had to cancel after I made a 30 minute drive. Sent me a text and wouldn't answer the phone when I tried to call and see if we could meet later. Next time the fire alarm went off and she had to cancel because she was spoked. The fifth time I showed up at the hotel and after 45 minutes of trying to call and text her I went home. She said she forgot, but I confirmed 4 hours before. The sixth time I make the 30 minute drive and when I arrive I got a text saying she was running 1 hour behind. Thats when I finally came to my senses and said the heck with seeing her.

    With some of the high end ladies I've seen the experience for me has been 10 times better. I always feel like I'm treated like a king. They treat me like a close friend and really seem to care about making me happy. I'm never rushed and always leave feeling like a million dollars. To me they just seem like sweet caring ladies that really love what they do and they bring so much more passion. Heck, one of these sweet ladies even has me stick around once and a while so she can fix me a meal.

    I look at it like this. Two brothers go out and buy a new car. One buys a Chevy and the other buys a Lexus. Now the one that bought the Chevy could say there is no difference. Both vehicles get you from point A to point B. They both run on gas and both came with a good warranty. But the brother that bought the Lexus might just like a more luxurious and refined vehicle. Every one has different tastes and reasons for seeing these wonderful woman. I realize that times are tough, but the best things in life always cost a little more. You wouldn't expect to get a filet mignon for the same price as a chopped steak.

    I guess I don't think its fair to post a lot of negatives about about these high end ladies because some of them are truly sweethearts. And the ones I've seen have a body to die for. Just my 2 cents.

  9. #5026

    I look at it in a different way BigMack, I love seeing the high end ladies

    Quote Originally Posted by BigMack  [View Original Post]
    You have been around as long as I have or close to it and we both know there are ladies who advertise high dollar but in private come down because they know they are overpriced, or father time has caught up with them and it is thank God for makeup. They also tell you not to tell anyone either because they don't want other women who won't come down to give them a raft of grief for undercutting them. If most ladies met their own needs and there are many who do, then no one should have an issue with free market but when a select few try to keep the market value inflated for the benefit of a few, then sorry but that is not supply and demand or free market. Speaking of free market the option of negotiating should be available as long as done nicely and in a number of cases. Do men have a right to say NO, definitely but the rumors fly if he does. Again it is all about who controls the dollars, that would be the men. It is not only about who gives better service although that is a big consideration but it is who gives the best service for how much. There are about a dozen or more ladies on this board alone who can and will rock your socks at 150 to 2 and at least three for less. They don't have web sites or photo shoots, or tell you they were in Playboy or Hustler or are or were models. Don't need to because they give top service for a reasonable need in this econonmy. They also don't have 4 to 8 kids they have to support as single parents which is not the clients problem. And if they could do something else they would be by now. When I first started in this almost 20 years ago, there were damned few ladies in this over thirty. Now there are a ton of ladies over 40 in this at least 4 very well known in the circle city alone. Age doesn't effect their quality but for the four I am thinking of if they are that high end for that long don't you think they would have been out of this a long time ago? I know this is a much discussed situation but considering it is in the long run SERVICE vs DONATION who controls the game? The little head or the wallet? I have mine two of them and they are awesome but they are also highly skilled and don't command your bank account to play. EVERYONE have a good holiday season and enjoy this venue It can be fun and very rewarding but as a very well known male I know who is still around used to say when I started RESEARCH RESEARCH RESEARCH.
    I've seen at least a couple of the high end ladies your probably talking about, and I personally find that they bring so much more to the table than other ladies. Maybe it's just my bad luck, but every time I've seen a lady that advertises 2 or less the experience has always been so so. Its always a problem scheduling a date and time. They never seem to be on time. One hour turns into 20 minuites. The hotel room smells of smoke. They tend to speed up the service instead of taking their time and letting it last longer. And I spend the entire time hearing about all the problems going on in their life.

    There was a lady in the Cincinnati area that I had met a couple times and the first two visits went great. She was a sweet lady that advertised around 1 to 1. 4 pretty regularly. On visit 3, she had a friend show up and had to cancel after I made a 30 minute drive. Sent me a text and wouldn't answer the phone when I tried to call and see if we could meet later. Next time the fire alarm went off and she had to cancel because she was spoked. The fifth time I showed up at the hotel and after 45 minutes of trying to call and text her I went home. She said she forgot, but I confirmed 4 hours before. The sixth time I make the 30 minute drive and when I arrive I got a text saying she was running 1 hour behind. Thats when I finally came to my senses and said the heck with seeing her.

    With some of the high end ladies I've seen the experience for me has been 10 times better. I always feel like I'm treated like a king. They treat me like a close friend and really seem to care about making me happy. I'm never rushed and always leave feeling like a million dollars. To me they just seem like sweet caring ladies that really love what they do and they bring so much more passion. Heck, one of these sweet ladies even has me stick around once and a while so she can fix me a meal.

    I look at it like this. Two brothers go out and buy a new car. One buys a Chevy and the other buys a Lexus. Now the one that bought the Chevy could say there is no difference. Both vehicles get you from point A to point B. They both run on gas and both came with a good warranty. But the brother that bought the Lexus might just like a more luxurious and refined vehicle. Every one has different tastes and reasons for seeing these wonderful woman. I realize that times are tough, but the best things in life always cost a little more. You wouldn't expect to get a filet mignon for the same price as a chopped steak.

    I guess I don't think its fair to post a lot of negatives about about these high end ladies because some of them are truly sweethearts. And the ones I've seen have a body to die for. Just my 2 cents.

  10. #5025
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1822

    Never thought I would see the day

    Quote Originally Posted by DoggyStyle4690  [View Original Post]
    There was a Teena Marie from Peru around last summer (this isn't her) but as far as I know she didn't last too long. I saw her a couple of times, had a pretty good experience, then she showed up uninvited at a most inopportune time. That was the end of that. I'the stay away from this one if she shows back up.

    http://www.outcall.net/us/TeenaMarie4066.shtml

    There's also a Kimberly from Kokomo, Lafayette, and / or Logansport but she keeps a pretty low profile. I saw her several years ago but for one reason or another haven't connected with her since. Not because it wasn't a good experience (it was) , but she pops in and out and is somewhat hard to schedule with. This one's a real sweetie and if I get the chance I'll see her again.

    http://kimberlyin.myescortpage.com/
    That the stunning young Kimberly Marie would ever be confused with TMarie, who was very popular in the day. She is still probably great fun, well known and heard from on some forums, but they are vastly different in oh so many ways. There has been chat aobut unsolicited calls from KM here, it is possible that you have talked to her and have dealt with her when trying to see a few local girls who she helps out, and you probably didn't know it, but you actually called her unknowingly and that is how she has your number; no great conspiracy or set up at all.

  11. #5024
    Quote Originally Posted by Fireman469  [View Original Post]
    The Asian on BP advertising on the south side is a 160. 00 massage and that's IT. I called and it was standard 2 call, seemed right. Upon arrival it was not the 24 yr old I was told would be there but an approximately 46 year old. She stated it was massage only and nothing else. I declined and left. Its the giving season but I'm not that giving.

    http://indianapolis.backpage.com/Fem...irl-25/5475386
    I'm glad you walked away. If she was massage only then how come she didn't have her real picture up. Stay safe man!

  12. #5023
    Senior Member


    Posts: 102
    Quote Originally Posted by BigMack  [View Original Post]
    Excellent service and don't charge an arm or a leg to do so. Most ladies I have met in this over the last two decades, and there are many are mostly in it for the $$s. They depend on the illusion and the males drive to give in to the dream / illusion. If you become friends of a sort you are ahead of the game. I agree with Osirrrus that for most attitude is or may not be a determinant of meeting but for those who are put off by pretentious and arrogant behaviors, it is a big deterrent for them. I prefer a lady who is not mechanical, has a great sense of humor, treats a man with respect and in turn expects it back. Women with haughty attitudes, attitudes of entitlement, or those who think they have gold lined areas of interest are a major turn off and honestly a royal pain in the a. Especially those who are high end "providers" who tell you they could do whatever else they chose if this fell through. BS. If most women could they would be out of this in a heart beat. The risks are enoromous, the physical endangerments are at the least scary, and the possible effects of this on your personal life, family if they have any / high end now, and being publically put before the public scrutinization of opinion makes one shudder, not to mention the medical possibilities and risks.

    NO lady or man has the right to be arrogant, holier than thou or charge / pay exhorbitant scales and then say if you don't like it move on. No man has the right to treat women like objects or demean them unless they give them due reason to. This is an illusionary business. The playing field should be laid out before the dance and if the lady changes the dance after agreeing, should be ripped to shreds verbally for failing her end. A man should also be ripped to pieces for changing the parameters of the meeting once agreed on.

    This is a sh*t economy and if ladies can't survive on a fair wage for their time, then they need to move on to a job that will give them what they need to survive on for themselves and those who depend on them. It can be a very lucrative field but it is a field fraught with danger and serious physical hazards not usually found in the real world jobs. Men quit thinking with your little heads and learn to say no. A guy I knew from another board, many years ago, figured that if a woman saw ONE client a day at 2 for five days it could turn out to be 40 to 50 a year with two weeks vacation and off the public record. I don't know any profession for the average person where they can work 1 hour a day five hours a week and make that kind of money but it still isn't enough for the few who want to rake in the big dollars, meet in 4 and 5 star hotels, be finally manicured and pedicured, drive fine cars, pay big bucks for personal photo shoots and still complain they deserve the big dollars and aren't making enough.

    I am sure the ladies will rip and the white knights will flock to the attack but in this economy if one side fks over the other then it can all go away quickly with one simple word, NO. Bottom line is men have what women need, and there are plenty out there who will be a friend for much less than the high dollar illusionist. Have a happy holiday and everyone help each other.
    Bigmack, Couldn't have said it better myself. I often found myself nodding in agreement.

    BTW, I concur with TimP14 comment about Abby's high dollar Illusionists arrogance. All I did is comment a respectful opinion in regards to her price increase and she publicly called me disrespectful for daring to even say so. I'm sorry but anyone should be able to give ones opinion without being insulted for doing so. I returned the comment with more respectful opinions pointing out the purposeful insult and she did not humbly apologize as she should have. This has led me to believe TimP14 is right that Abby does have an arrogance streak. Entitlement behavior is often, but not always accompanied with excess, whether it be of beauty, money, or anything else. As for me I'm so thankful I thought with my big head and not the little else I'd be paying 400 dollars a hour, and not even my lawyer makes that kind of money.

    And before you knights in shining armor come to her rescue and blast me trying reading the comment thread first. It's at **************. You'll know its the right review because it has like 20 comments to it.

  13. #5022

    Similar names around Kokomo

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscreetGuy86  [View Original Post]
    There are two people I think using a similar name. One is from Kokomo and the other is in this link.

    http://www.wix.com/wkcinc/marie
    There was a Teena Marie from Peru around last summer (this isn't her) but as far as I know she didn't last too long. I saw her a couple of times, had a pretty good experience, then she showed up uninvited at a most inopportune time. That was the end of that. I'the stay away from this one if she shows back up. http://www.outcall.net/us/TeenaMarie4066.shtml

    There's also a Kimberly from Kokomo, Lafayette, and / or Logansport but she keeps a pretty low profile. I saw her several years ago but for one reason or another haven't connected with her since. Not because it wasn't a good experience (it was) , but she pops in and out and is somewhat hard to schedule with. This one's a real sweetie and if I get the chance I'll see her again. http://kimberlyin.myescortpage.com/

  14. #5021

    Almost TOFTT Southside Asian

    The Asian on BP advertising on the south side is a 160. 00 massage and that's IT. I called and it was standard 2 call, seemed right. Upon arrival it was not the 24 yr old I was told would be there but an approximately 46 year old. She stated it was massage only and nothing else. I declined and left. Its the giving season but I'm not that giving.

    http://indianapolis.backpage.com/Fem...irl-25/5475386

  15. #5020

    Now that is A REVIEW!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ilapp  [View Original Post]
    Sorry for the novel, I haven't written a long review here in a long time, but this one was an experience totally new with someone who wasn't, so I figured I would tell a little more about it, it was a revelation to me. With all ofthe current heat and caution that it requires, it was really great to know that I could go somewhere I was totally comfortable and knew to be perfectly safe, yet have an experience totally unlike any I had had there before. I know a couple other trusted and well loved providers are also reinventing themselves some to help keep things new and fresh, and that is a great thing when you may have trouble trusting some newer or less trustworthy providers.
    Ilapp, this is what a review, long or not, should look like. It didn't contain any boring details; rather, it included an interesting story that is sure to make T's cell phone blow up with calls from every swinging theat$ on this board. And it is good to know that even an old pro like you can still be surprised and amazed. Looking forward to more of your reviews.

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