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  1. #3943
    Let's just keep it real ok? If you're still in the game are "care" sooooooo much. Don't be cheap.

    No offense and all.

    And I don't want to hear that sad story about how they tell you if they don't have their meds, they'll get dope sick. Tell them to get some methadone pills instead. I mean they sell sell them at the SAME place. An OG SW friend of mine told me that. God bless her.

  2. #3942
    You are missing the point, is not the money is the way you treat them. I have been with a SW that when I saw her neck it had marks of fingers on her. She said that 2 nights before (when I saw her) some guy who wanted FS grab her from the neck and she though he was going to kill her. She said that she wanted to scream but could not talk. Then as he was getting up he spit at her. Now I can't do that to anyone yet a SW that is satisfying me. Another one was beaten up and rape. She said if he wanted her she would have let him (he had a knife) but after he rape her he beat on her until she was awake in the hospital with a broken jaw. Is the treatment of this girls. We always try to get the service for less but if they treat me very good I tip them and they remember the next time you pick them up. I remember a SW who was heading to a SUV BMW and as soon as she saw me she ran to my little junk car and I had the window open and she said I know him but the the other car I don't.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiddy77  [View Original Post]
    Well. Since everybody is so "caring" and know that the girls are "human beings" selling their bodies. Then why the you guys "negotiate" prices. I mean since everybody knows the girls are selling their bodies and it's humiliating for them to do so. Why throw $60 for FS? I mean they're selling their bodies and we all know this and yet everybody is sooooo "caring" everybody throws $60 or $20 or whatever. Please explain why you're not contradicting yourselves? No offense and all.

    Thank god I'm not it the game anymore

  3. #3941
    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiddy77  [View Original Post]
    Well. Since everybody is so "caring" and know that the girls are "human beings" selling their bodies. Then why the you guys "negotiate" prices. I mean since everybody knows the girls are selling their bodies and it's humiliating for them to do so. Why throw $60 for FS? I mean they're selling their bodies and we all know this and yet everybody is sooooo "caring" everybody throws $60 or $20 or whatever. Please explain why you're not contradicting yourselves? No offense and all.

    Thank god I'm not it the game anymore
    Agreed. Price is not really something to be negotiated. Hot girls get good money. I only go for hot girls.

  4. #3940
    Well. Since everybody is so "caring" and know that the girls are "human beings" selling their bodies. Then why the you guys "negotiate" prices. I mean since everybody knows the girls are selling their bodies and it's humiliating for them to do so. Why throw $60 for FS? I mean they're selling their bodies and we all know this and yet everybody is sooooo "caring" everybody throws $60 or $20 or whatever. Please explain why you're not contradicting yourselves? No offense and all.

    Thank god I'm not it the game anymore

  5. #3939

    Streets

    I read cookyjar's reports from down here. I never have understood why someone would treat other people that way. The streets are hard. Grew up on those streets. If you have to make yourself feel better by hurting other people, maybe you need to look at yourself. Granted, they are addicts. What goes around, comes around. I treat them with respect, seems to work out better.

  6. #3938

    Agreed

    I am trying to suggest isn't that difficult. You can have a good time on the avenue without abusing the girls. You don't have to mistreat them to enjoy them. That's the point I am trying to make.

    Believe that by taking it easy on the girls we make it better on ourselves, in the long run. Of cause there are those who disagree and believe that it's fun treating these women like garbage. However, if we can convince one new monger to ease up just a little, it's worth the effort.

    CookyJar[/QUOTE]Treating all with respect is the way to go. I don't no any other way of behaving.

  7. #3937

    Re: Understanding and pride

    Quote Originally Posted by Fkdave  [View Original Post]
    Lets put it another way. Rather than using the harsh comparison of meat. I have befriended every SW I have ever met. I help them when I can and even catch myself falling for the newest hot one, before I catch myself and remember this is a game.
    What I am trying to suggest isn’t that difficult. You can have a good time on the avenue without abusing the girls. You don’t have to mistreat them to enjoy them. That’s the point I am trying to make.
    I honestly believe that by taking it easy on the girls we make it better on ourselves, in the long run. Of cause there are those who disagree and believe that it’s fun treating these women like garbage. However, if we can convince one new monger to ease up just a little, it’s worth the effort.

    CookyJar

  8. #3936
    Cookyjar is a humanitarian. He is the Mother Theresa of Kensington. When a person is down and out, he is there to help, assist and give a kind word. In hard times, he is the guiding light.

  9. #3935

    Understanding and pride

    Got to care. There is not much I can do about it, but, I do care. Am I taking advantage of drug addicted girls? I don't know, but, I do care. I do care. Especially, when I see them suffering, I care. How can you not care when you see another human being suffering.

    CookyJar.

    Not a matter of what you are doing. It's how you do it, that matters. Do you do it with understanding and pride. Native Americans hunted the buffalo for centuries, thinning out the herd for food. Wolves and other animals survived feeding on the herds for millenniums. Along came greed, and the white man wiped out the species within decades – and for what? So that tired old white ladies could wear buffalo skin hats? The white buffalo hunters left the carcasses rotting in the sun.

    Not a beast feeding on the misfortune of young girls. Nor am I a wild animal who cannot control it's urges. I do what I do because I have somehow managed to rationalize it in my mind. Melanie and I are both two equal human beings trying to make our way in the world. Neither one of us has caused the other to be what they are. If I could change things and make them better; I would.

    I have tried to keep the anonymity, by deleting and X'ing out certain items that might identify the author or his subject. In doing this I have caused a lost of some of the power and punch in the original writing. But, enough remains so that you can get his point.

    Effect this PM had on me was heightened by the fact that I know the girl. How could I not feel something?

    CookyJar[/QUOTE]Lets put it another way. Rather than using the harsh comparison of meat. I have befriended every SW I have ever met. I help them when I can and even catch myself falling for the newest hot one, before I catch myself and remember this is a game. It requires skill and intelligence, speed and agility. I bet you I can get around the block from Cambria and Kensington back to Huntington Station during rush hour faster than any other monger. Years of practice. I know when to pull over and jump out to catch the extra hotty that might get away if I go around the block. I insist on fresh talent, except for the few girls that have incredible staying power, like Red haired Jackie from Huntington and Holly, who are always solid fall backs if no new talent is out. Hotty Nicole in MHO was hot. Katie, (blondbomb) is smokin. But anyway. I promise you this. If any girl or guy out there for that matter, asked me honestly to take them to detox, I would drop my own agenda and take them immediately. I realize this is a life and death game. It is for the girls, but it is also for us. We are not bullet or knife proof. A foolish moment of parking on the wrong block can cost dearly. I have been ambushed but not for 25 yrs. I do what I do because I get a thrill out of it. It is not normal behavior (99. 9 % of the people in our area have never been to the K, and know nothing of it except for the occassional news story of horror). It is never altruistic, though it can be interestingly fun and even seem civilized on occasion.

  10. #3934
    Quote Originally Posted by Davidonecall  [View Original Post]
    Just like CJ there are other hobbies who care. I myself do the same. I have helped some with money for food, rent ext. I know lots of them have an addiction but they are people to.
    It’s not just about passing around a few bucks. Some guys think solely with the little head. Others do most of their thinking with their big head. And, there are some quick thinkers, who somehow manage to use both heads. The problem is with the assholes who don’t think at all. They believe that all women like it rough. They come down to the avenue to prove their manhood. They beat the girls physically, and mentally. One of the Nicoles, a deceit provider, recently told me of a monger who stole her money and left her stranded at the Carlisle. Big man! Getting raped, punched and mistreated, by pimps, clients and street deadbeats is a daily occurrence for these women. We have all heard the horror stories; we have seen how and where they live. Do they really need more bullshit from us.
    I am not suggesting that anyone kiss anyone’s ass. There are girls out there that push the limits. They do things that make you want to hurt them. Whenever possible I just walk away in those situations. I take the lost. It’s no big thing and where is the glory in getting over on some poor drug sick, tiny girl. But, there are guys out there who have not had a new thought since kindergarten. They were bullies then, they are bullies now. They think it’s funny and brag about pushing some poor frail child of god out of a moving car.
    The funny (funny odd, not funny he,he) thing is that most of these girls, the good ones, are perfectly willing to let you do almost anything (within reason)to them. Yet, some unthinking assholes have to take it a step further and treat them like dirt.

    CookyJar

  11. #3933
    Just like CJ there are other hobbies who care. I myself do the same. I have helped some with money for food, rent ext. I know lots of them have an addiction but they are people to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Sweeney  [View Original Post]
    CJ, Those of us who have followed your work over the years see that you care, you don't be-little the girls, I've seen posts where you have stopped and spoke to the girls just to say Hi and maybe give them a few bucks to eat. I see a lot more smiles on the girls in your pics than I do in other pics. The girls are human beings just like us, you seem like a decent person, so it's only natural to care.

  12. #3932

    Cj

    CJ, Those of us who have followed your work over the years see that you care, you don't be-little the girls, I've seen posts where you have stopped and spoke to the girls just to say Hi and maybe give them a few bucks to eat. I see a lot more smiles on the girls in your pics than I do in other pics. The girls are human beings just like us, you seem like a decent person, so it's only natural to care.

  13. #3931

    Re: An Update

    Quote Originally Posted by Pdiddy77  [View Original Post]
    …Well. Cookyjar. One time blonde Lindsay told me that you really shouldn't care one way or the other.
    She's my atf.
    I’ve got to care. There is not much I can do about it, but, I do care. Am I taking advantage of drug addicted girls? I don’t know, but, I do care. I do care. Especially, when I see them suffering, I care. How can you not care when you see another human being suffering.

    CookyJar
    Quote Originally Posted by Fkdave  [View Original Post]
    I appreciate your sentiment here CJ. But addiction is addiction. I am addicted to sex with SWers. They are addicted to drugs. We satisfy a need for each other. If I stop, the game will continue.

    I met her back in July when she still had some weight on. Man, what a handful of firm breast she has, plus her oral skills are top notch. One of the best BBBJs on the K in the last 25 yrs and she is proud of those skills.
    It’s not a matter of what you are doing. It’s how you do it, that matters. Do you do it with understanding and pride. Native Americans hunted the buffalo for centuries, thinning out the herd for food. Wolves and other animals survived feeding on the herds for millenniums. Along came greed, and the white man wiped out the species within decades – and for what? So that tired old white ladies could wear buffalo skin hats? The white buffalo hunters left the carcasses rotting in the sun.
    I am not a beast feeding on the misfortune of young girls. Nor am I a wild animal who cannot control it’s urges. I do what I do because I have somehow managed to rationalize it in my mind. Melanie and I are both two equal human beings trying to make our way in the world. Neither one of us has caused the other to be what they are. If I could change things and make them better; I would.
    Read this; it’s a private message I received yesterday from a fellow monger who wanted to update my information on a girl I had previously dated and reviewed. I have tried to keep the anonymity, by deleting and X’ing out certain items that might identify the author or his subject. In doing this I have caused a lost of some of the power and punch in the original writing. But, enough remains so that you can get his point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Yxxxxx

    Part 1


    Cooky I have had a difficult time trying to send you this info just not used to this site so I'm sending it in two P Ms to see if that works.

    This is the first part.
    Xxxxx knows my nickname as Yxxxxx so please keep my identity private. I do not wish to lose her as a friend.

    Xxxxx is doing as well as can be expected. She is working the Huntingdon El Station when she needs.
    She is there the late afternoon into early evening. Once she does a couple dates and has enough money to feed her Cocaine habit, she heads for Rorer and Cambria to cop. Then she leaves the area and heads to XXXXXXth Street, where she now lives.
    The reason she doesn't hang around Somerset is she has two outstanding warrants. One in Xxxxx and one in Xxxxxxxx counties. ( See below ). She fears the warrant unit will find her and arrest her. She thinks she will get about two years on the warrant charges. What she fears most is detoxing cold turkey. If not for the cold turkey issue Xxxxx would have put this behind her long ago.

    Xxxxx county warrant is below.
    The County of Xxxxx Sheriff's Department
    Bench Warrants Sheriff's Department
    Bench Warrants Today: 0/00/0000
    Home
    Contact Us
    Help
    Bench Warrant Case Number -0000-0000
    Case Number: 0000-0000
    Issue Date: 0/00/0000
    Last Name: X******
    First Name: Xxxxx
    Sex: F
    Race: N/A
    DOB: 0/00/0000
    City: Philadelphia
    State: PA
    Zip Code: 19119
    Xxxxxxxxxxxx county warrant is below.
    Bench Warrant Case Number - 0000000 (Click on case number for more case information)
    Issue Date: 00/00/00
    Last Name: X********
    First Name: Xxxxxx
    Sex: F
    Race: N/A
    DOB: 00/00/0000
    Address: 000 XXXXXXX XX
    City: Xxxxxxxxxxxx
    State: XX
    Zip: XXXXX

    Part 2

    An error message came up that said I had to shorten the message so I will just send a third PM after this one. Hope that is ok with you.

    That isn't the extent of Xxxxx's problems. She has a severe outbreak of Genital Herpes and told me she has tested H I V positive. She attributes this to having unprotected sex on numerous occasions. Yet she continues this practice. I guess it is a catch 22 for someone like her.
    It is important the people on here be made aware of this so they can protect themselves with her. She is a very beautiful woman and where there is beauty men tend to throw caution to the wind. She has been with other women with me also. So they are also at risk.

    When she contracted Genital Herpes she was supposed to go to the Gynecologist. They called to confirm that she would keep the appointment and told her she needed two forms of identification which she does not have. She never kept the appointment. I tried to get her to go to Planned Parenthood she again refused.

    Xxxxxhas also been reusing and sharing her needles so there may be a chance she has Hepatitus C. That is not confirmed as of this update. Her arms and legs don't offer any good injection sites any more. When she can't hit in those areas she hits in her neck. What happens when she can't hit in her neck any more?

    Xxxxxx comes from a family with a multitude of problems. Her mother doesn't want her at her home in Xxxxxxxxx. Her father is having severe problems. Mmmmmm issues recently put him in Blankety clinic. This took its toll on Xxxxxx. I'm sure she feels like her world is crashing around her.

    Xxxxx is really a wonderful person that stepped into a world so much bigger than she is and it is eating her alive. As is the case with many of the SWs in that area.
    Xxxxx is a warm caring loving person with self esteem issues. She has a low sense of self worth. I have been working on those issues since I've known her. I can't get it into her head just how good of a person she is. I have tried so hard to relate her good qualities to her. Of course the Cocaine plays a major role in masking the real situation with her. I believe she is hiding from the real world behind the Cocaine.

    Hopefully she will get picked up by the warrant unit and sent to jail or rehab so she can straighten her life out and not deal with the drugs anymore. That may be wishful thinking on my part.
    The problem with rehab is there is a 90% relapse rate. Maybe she can fit into the 10% that makes it.

    Part 3

    Xxxxx wants to be clean so bad. This is something she struggles with every moment of her life. She doesn't want to be considered a prostitute, Street walker, a *****. She has told me she hates the prostitution drug scene and that is the only way she can support her addiction. She hates doing the dates. She hates the way she feels after a date. She hates the fear of getting raped or kidnapped. She told me that has happened before. Im sure you will agree she just shouldn't be out there. Those fears are ever present in her mind.

    I fell in love with Xxxxx when I first met her. I am still in love with her and care very deeply about what happens to her.
    She has a lot to give this world through her expierences on the dark side of life and just life in general as she has really been through a lot.
    I only hope she is able to clean up and work a positive twist so that others can benefit from her experiences.

    Thought this may be of interest to you as she is one of the few women that have made an impact on this site so that is why I contacted you. I know you care about a lot of the people you meet .
    Thanks for your caring and continue what you are doing.

    Yxxxxx
    The effect this PM had on me was heightened by the fact that I know the girl. How could I not feel something?

    CookyJar

  14. #3930
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemmesee  [View Original Post]
    CookyJar.

    You do what you are comfortable with; The game goes on with or without you (and me) the girl wants drugs, I want pussy, she needs money that I provide for the pussy she provides, yes, I PAY FOR PUSSY, no-sugar coated excuse here, this being legal or Illegal doesn't matter to me, (uncle LEO has his priorities and so do I) and when I quit for good nothing will ever change : Pussy is a resource with limited offer and unlimited demand, a girl will always make a buck.
    Not if she's ugly.

  15. #3929
    CookyJar.

    Member PM'ed me this link. I believe it was posted in the general thread earlier this summer. The article itself is bullshit. Local LE may be overwhelmed but they will make a bust when they can. However, the video is very interesting. This video along with another PM which I receieved yesterday (and will repost here later) has me rethinking what I do and my motivations for doing it.

    Click here to see a sad video featuring Melanie.

    CookyJar
    You do what you are comfortable with; The game goes on with or without you (and me) the girl wants drugs, I want pussy, she needs money that I provide for the pussy she provides, yes, I PAY FOR PUSSY, no-sugar coated excuse here, this being legal or Illegal doesn't matter to me, (uncle LEO has his priorities and so do I) and when I quit for good nothing will ever change : Pussy is a resource with limited offer and unlimited demand, a girl will always make a buck.

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