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  1. #1992

    Sorry, but

    While I usually agree with your posts here SM, truth is the business-minded ladies do in fact make 200 to 400K a year, NET. Even at the price of a C-note, if that young lady sees just 4 clients that day, her gross is 400; less the $39. 99 a day room, the crappy food she eats over the course of the day (another Hamilton) , throw in mostly inexpensive clothes which average less than $50. 00 an outfit x 4 outfits a month; cellphone; 5 bucks a day (and that's generous) for makeup, and her costs (less transportation) are around $70 to $75 bucks a day. Rounding-down, let's say she clears 3 bills; multiply that times 5 days a week (allowing for her cycle) and she's making $1500. 00 a week. Multiply that by 4 weeks, and she's clearing 6K a month; times 12 months and that's a cool 70K+ a year. And this is if she only sees 4 clients a day@a C-note each! We all know many of these girls see 6 to 8 clients a day, and charge upto 3 bills for an hour; so please, don't tell us how these ladies make far less than 200K a year. If they claim poverty, they are either lying to you or smoking their profits up a glass tube. How else can you explain "The Happy Hooker" "Mayflower Madam" or Heidi Fleiss? These madams only became wealthy because they made their ladies even wealthier with their money-makers. While the clientele they saw spent thousands on these girls, fact is, indies make a lot of mulah; A LOT OF MULAH!

    I have had 5-star service from a car-date, and lousy service from. 3 / Hr girls. I have learned the hard way the fee required rarely justifies the service. If the ladies want to make serious cash, all they need to do is stand behind what they advertise. Those that do, have followings of clients that practically kiss their ass for months, if not years. I had one such experience with a UCF student years ago. Her GFE never went higher than. 13 for the hour, and she never once looked at the clock when I was in her arms. Since then, I've had good and poor experiences, paying more, and less; but none have ever met her performance. So paying more RARELY guarantees getting a higher-quality service.

    Therefore, seeking FS for a Franklin for hour of her time is in fact reasonable, because let's face it; most "hours" rarely exceed 20 minutes with most clients on their lunch or dinner-hour. While many of our members here are not stereo-typical, most men ARE. So expecting basic FS for a Franklin is not asking too much at all. Now if you are more like me; you seek passion. Passion should and usually does cost more. If what is advertised is what I get, I have no problem meeting a higher (but still reasonable) fee.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole John  [View Original Post]
    I mostly agree with what you said but there is a floor to prices. Just like you can sell any car that runs for $500, below a certain point even a meth addict on OBT isn't going to do any thing for you.

    Hey I'm all for low prices but just like we want the girls to be fair to us, we need to be fair to them. We also have to keep in mind what we pay them is gross income not net. Like any other buisness they have expenses. Clothing, make up, rent for incalls, heck even gas for outcalls isn't trivial today. Plus that hour she spends with you is more like an hour and a half or two hours work for her with prep and clean up.

    Point is that even though we may pay a girl $200 per hour that doesn't mean she's taking home $400k a year. If we want to keep the good ones around we have to make it worthwhile for them.

  2. #1991

    I concur SJ you are right on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole John  [View Original Post]
    I mostly agree with what you said but there is a floor to prices. Just like you can sell any car that runs for $500, below a certain point even a meth addict on OBT isn't going to do any thing for you.

    Hey I'm all for low prices but just like we want the girls to be fair to us, we need to be fair to them. We also have to keep in mind what we pay them is gross income not net. Like any other buisness they have expenses. Clothing, make up, rent for incalls, heck even gas for outcalls isn't trivial today. Plus that hour she spends with you is more like an hour and a half or two hours work for her with prep and clean up.

    Point is that even though we may pay a girl $200 per hour that doesn't mean she's taking home $400k a year. If we want to keep the good ones around we have to make it worthwhile for them.
    I have always agreed with the fairness idea when it comes escort. I have and will always be a good tipper if I see an escort. And I will admit to over tipping and over paying an escort if she's hot and seems to be enjoying what she does as well as I'm enjoying her. Although there are great finds out there with really low prices. As the old saying go's you get what you pay for stands true in the end. Even if I run into a gal with a really low donation rate, I will still tip her a bit more after the dream is over. Maybe it's just me but, if I take the time out of my day to go see an escort. And most here can see that I do like the hot lean spinner types, I just find it hard to be cheap with any hot gal out there. I pay top dollar for cleanliness, quality and great service bottom line! It's rare, but if I go see and escort and she's really hot with low, low rates first thing comes to mind is man this gal has no idea of her true self worth or true value. Most gals that I do tend to repeat with usually pick up on the first or second ring if they see my number calling that's a fact. I tend to stay the hour on my visits if the chemistry is right and the gals has a friendly attitude. The only time I usually stay for a fifteen minute or quick session is if there's something not right with the providers in call location. Something like her room reeks of stale smoke, she has roommates or friends lurking around the out side of her room, or if I get the feeling she's been having a bad day therefore I won't stay for the hour fearing the service may suck. Now if your the type of monger that likes to spend 60 to 80 on your fun, do you really think a gals going to jump for joy when she see your number calling her? Hell no trust me she won't! In fact you may set and appointment with her to spend your 60 to 80 on her only to find that when you show up at her in call she doesn't answer the phone for you. To sum it all up, most gals see a good number of mongers within a months time. But trust me most of the gals find it very hard to forget a good paying client. Like SJ said, if we want to keep the good ones around we have to make it worthwhile for them. Or end up with a city full of strung out bottom feeding gals baiting us with crazy low rates but willing to put our safety at risk as well as our health. Most have PM me asking how do I get so many great pictures of the gals I've dreamed with. All I can say is respect the gal and treat her like a lady start to finish! And the number one thing that puts icing on the cake is to pay her well if you really want her to show you an even better time the next time around if you're planning to repeat with her. Happy hunting! OP

  3. #1990
    Quote Originally Posted by Quasimodo45  [View Original Post]
    As the price of the high price spread (Pun un-intended. But fitting) drops. The price of the bottom feeders will drive them out of business (those that free is far too high a price. About half of backpage). Then the price of the quality stuff will stabilize & be supported.

    If you shop carefully. There are some very fine pickings at decent prices these days. (Far more so than a year ago.)

    Real supply & demand is a wonderful thing.
    I mostly agree with what you said but there is a floor to prices. Just like you can sell any car that runs for $500, below a certain point even a meth addict on OBT isn't going to do any thing for you.

    Hey I'm all for low prices but just like we want the girls to be fair to us, we need to be fair to them. We also have to keep in mind what we pay them is gross income not net. Like any other buisness they have expenses. Clothing, make up, rent for incalls, heck even gas for outcalls isn't trivial today. Plus that hour she spends with you is more like an hour and a half or two hours work for her with prep and clean up.

    Point is that even though we may pay a girl $200 per hour that doesn't mean she's taking home $400k a year. If we want to keep the good ones around we have to make it worthwhile for them.

  4. #1989

    Satisfaction guaranteed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerseygirl  [View Original Post]
    I like your style Seminole John. Exactly! You get what you pay for!
    What Jerseygirl supplies can satisfy any demands.

  5. #1988

    I concur

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole John  [View Original Post]
    One of the fundamental laws of of economics is that the ultimate determinant of the price of something is what some one else is willing to pay for it. We pay it so they charge it.

    We may want to be careful how we use or economic power as if we drive price too low quality girls may leave the industry. Remember there's a difference between price and value. If the girl is cheap but the service sucks thats not a good value. But there are some members here who will say that JGE is a vallue at any price for instance.
    Overdoing anything cause extreme and problem.

    Xx

  6. #1987

    Ah. But the supply at the bottom end will drop off as well

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole John  [View Original Post]
    One of the fundamental laws of of economics is that the ultimate determinant of the price of something is what some one else is willing to pay for it. We pay it so they charge it.

    We may want to be careful how we use or economic power as if we drive price too low quality girls may leave the industry. Remember there's a difference between price and value. If the girl is cheap but the service sucks thats not a good value. But there are some members here who will say that JGE is a vallue at any price for instance.
    As the price of the high price spread (Pun un-intended. But fitting) drops. The price of the bottom feeders will drive them out of business (those that free is far too high a price. About half of backpage). Then the price of the quality stuff will stabilize & be supported.

    If you shop carefully. There are some very fine pickings at decent prices these days. (Far more so than a year ago.)

    Real supply & demand is a wonderful thing.

  7. #1986
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    Posts: 656

    Bravo

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole John  [View Original Post]
    One of the fundamental laws of of economics is that the ultimate determinant of the price of something is what some one else is willing to pay for it. We pay it so they charge it.

    We may want to be careful how we use or economic power as if we drive price too low quality girls may leave the industry. Remember there's a difference between price and value. If the girl is cheap but the service sucks thats not a good value. But there are some members here who will say that JGE is a vallue at any price for instance.
    I like your style Seminole John. Exactly! You get what you pay for!

  8. #1985
    Quote Originally Posted by Vino 7373  [View Original Post]
    Amen, brother. I work so hard for the little that I bring home.

    It amazes me that some girls make more per hour than doctors. When we, as patrons, continue to allow this to happen.

    I have no idea where some of the mongers can come up with the gifts that some of these girls demand. How on earth they make it and hide it from their spouses is totally beyond me.

    I would love to find some girls that have reasonable gift requests for the hour. That's why I enjoy dreaming of Angel. Great value for the gift. If any of you have any others to recommend in that range, please post or PM me.
    One of the fundamental laws of of economics is that the ultimate determinant of the price of something is what some one else is willing to pay for it. We pay it so they charge it.

    We may want to be careful how we use or economic power as if we drive price too low quality girls may leave the industry. Remember there's a difference between price and value. If the girl is cheap but the service sucks thats not a good value. But there are some members here who will say that JGE is a vallue at any price for instance.

  9. #1984

    Totally understand

    Quote Originally Posted by GymBagJim  [View Original Post]
    You have to forgive me Ron,

    I am in the final stages of detox / rehab from the intoxicating effects that Jersey had on me 6 weeks ago.

    I am not thinking straight.

    God I need a fix.

    No, no, I can do this.

    GBJ
    Yup, hard to think straight, or even walk straight after Jersey gets done with you. Like that old John Cougar song, she hurts so good.

  10. #1983
    Quote Originally Posted by Vino 7373  [View Original Post]
    It amazes me that some girls make more per hour than doctors. When we, as patrons, continue to allow this to happen.
    This is the problem.

  11. #1982

    Kristi and Angel

    This report is acouple of weeks old but bares posting. I have been trying to find a good threesome but I am always dissapointed by one member of the team. I went to see Kristi and Angel one morning. Easy to get a hold of price was right so far so good. Got totheir hotel room and was greeted by two cute girls with Kristi being the cuter. Starting DFK with both which was good. We got comfortable and lets just say neither one is going to be a swimsuit model. Once again I give the nod to Kristi for having a better overall shape. Once we got in bed Angel immediately pulled out the raincoat. Now I am all for safety but for an hour I would prefer a little uncovered snuggling and hand play. Kristi was fine with it and Angel obliged but said don't touch me there. The final for me was while Kristi and I were still having some fun Angel got out of bed and said times up. It wasnt we still had at least ten minutes and I finished with Kristi. Angel definitely will not repeat. Kristi maybe.

  12. #1981
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vino 7373  [View Original Post]
    Amen, brother. I work so hard for the little that I bring home.

    It amazes me that some girls make more per hour than doctors. When we, as patrons, continue to allow this to happen.

    I have no idea where some of the mongers can come up with the gifts that some of these girls demand. How on earth they make it and hide it from their spouses is totally beyond me.

    I would love to find some girls that have reasonable gift requests for the hour. That's why I enjoy dreaming of Angel. Great value for the gift. If any of you have any others to recommend in that range, please post or PM me.
    Same here. At one time, I didn't even scoff at $$$, but it's a different economy now, and quite a different story for most of us hobbyists. Not that I want to be cheap, but you really have to look for value now. The free money days of the bull market are over. That's why most of my encounters have been at AMP's. No fuss, no muss, and most of the time, great value.

  13. #1980
    This is correct. I had the pleasure of picking her up at MCO and spending a bit over an hour with her last night. She is a must see. She will be in town for a few days, then Cocoa and then back for a few more days. She does not rush. Every dream keeps getting better and better.

    Quote Originally Posted by GenevaMan  [View Original Post]
    Just confirmed by phone she's landed and will be in Orlando this week, and Cocoa Beach next week.

    Treat her well. Be Safe & Have Fun!

    GM

  14. #1979
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron628  [View Original Post]
    Brains+Beauty+Booty = JerseyGirl.

    That looks better.
    You have to forgive me Ron,

    I am in the final stages of detox / rehab from the intoxicating effects that Jersey had on me 6 weeks ago.

    I am not thinking straight.

    God I need a fix.

    No, no, I can do this.

    GBJ

  15. #1978

    Gifts

    Quote Originally Posted by Gruglok  [View Original Post]
    200 is my max. For an hour. 125 is my golden number though. In a shitty economy the value of everything goes down, including fun.
    Amen, brother. I work so hard for the little that I bring home.

    It amazes me that some girls make more per hour than doctors. When we, as patrons, continue to allow this to happen.

    I have no idea where some of the mongers can come up with the gifts that some of these girls demand. How on earth they make it and hide it from their spouses is totally beyond me.

    I would love to find some girls that have reasonable gift requests for the hour. That's why I enjoy dreaming of Angel. Great value for the gift. If any of you have any others to recommend in that range, please post or PM me.

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