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  1. #8617

    Why its illegal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostface89  [View Original Post]
    For the life of me, I cannot understand why there is no tolerance by the thought police who accept all these other sex concepts, but hound and demonize hetero mongers like they were moral terrorists.

    Your thoughts, gentlemen?
    It is illegal for two reasons: (1) when you do the math, it is cheaper than marriage (if you count the number of times you have married sex). Rational men would not marry if they could buy sex daily at market prices. Given the choice of paid sex on demand, or marriage, paid sex wins; (2) Absent the scarcity created by making prostitution illegal (and by marriage) , in a pay for sex world, women over 30 would have to give it away to find sex. Men would line up to pay for sex with 20 year olds.

    But lets look at the facts guys. When you get 40 or 50 you don't want sex like when you were 25. You have more cash. You really would save up for a great night with a 20 something.

    I'd rather have fun twice a week with a 20 something than 5 times a week with a woman my own age.

  2. #8616

    Good point.

    Quote Originally Posted by Musei  [View Original Post]
    It took the likes of Harvey Milk and the Stonewall Riots to shift the tide for the Gays. Seems that all we have is "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" in the Monger corner.
    Most mongers want to remain in secret. There is no political will to change things because there are no voices calling for change. I'm not about to step out from behind my screen name and I bet most of the people on this board aren't either.

  3. #8615

    Times they are a (have) changing

    Another area is if your browse C-list, how many m4m posts are there with depictions and open proposals where if a W4M was to, it is flagged and removed.

    Perhaps the key to this is NOT mentioning a donation at all.

    Stay safe and prosper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostface89  [View Original Post]
    In my time on this earth, about three score years, the political climate has changed regarding most sexual mores. Now divorce is commonplace and no longer a stigma. Now living together without a marriage certificate is no longer "living in sin." The biggest change in sexual ethics is that homosexuality is now in your face with "gay pride" parades and openly accepted gay bars, etc.

    In other words, there has been a tidal wave of change in many areas of sexual conduct. EXCEPT for heterosexual activity regarding escorts and especially massage parlors.

    For the life of me, I cannot understand why there is no tolerance by the thought police who accept all these other sex concepts, but hound and demonize hetero mongers like they were moral terrorists.

    Your thoughts, gentlemen?

  4. #8614
    Senior Member


    Posts: 115

    Stonewall Riots

    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostface89  [View Original Post]
    For the life of me, I cannot understand why there is no tolerance by the thought police who accept all these other sex concepts, but hound and demonize hetero mongers like they were moral terrorists. Your thoughts, gentlemen?
    It took the likes of Harvey Milk and the Stonewall Riots to shift the tide for the Gays. Seems that all we have is "The Adventures of Ozzie and Harriet" in the Monger corner.

  5. #8613

    In My Lifetime.

    In my time on this earth, about three score years, the political climate has changed regarding most sexual mores. Now divorce is commonplace and no longer a stigma. Now living together without a marriage certificate is no longer "living in sin." The biggest change in sexual ethics is that homosexuality is now in your face with "gay pride" parades and openly accepted gay bars, etc.

    In other words, there has been a tidal wave of change in many areas of sexual conduct . EXCEPT for heterosexual activity regarding escorts and especially massage parlors.

    For the life of me, I cannot understand why there is no tolerance by the thought police who accept all these other sex concepts, but hound and demonize hetero mongers like they were moral terrorists.

    Your thoughts, gentlemen?

  6. #8612

    Still Searching

    Quote Originally Posted by AutoParts  [View Original Post]
    Did anyone ever find out the name and address for the place by 47th and Kedzie. Drove by couldn't find it.
    No I'm still searching for the salon near 47th & Kedzie.

    Just looking for a good legit massage, thats all.

    If anyone konow the name of the place that you be much appreciated.

  7. #8611
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilibee  [View Original Post]
    I believe that most of the prosecution tends to involve streetwalkers and massage parlors. So I would say, ask yourself if *you* would want a massage parlor or streetwalker trade near where *you* live? I suspect that while thinking about your answer to this question it will go a long way toward also answering the questions that you pose above.

    My advice is that people should try to be reasonable. While you may have perfectly valid reasons to want to monger, your actions may have negative impacts on others, and those others may not like it. Try to keep in mind the impact that your actions have on others and at least you will be a more reasonable monger.
    I live right by a massage parlor and it doesn't bother me one bit. I doubt if anyone else even notices; they're probably pleased that it isn't ANOTHER empty storefront. There's no gaudy signage or traffic congestion; it's doesn't disrupt the neighborhood at all.

    There are some SW who work nearby as well. They are low key for the most part. It's not a known stroll, so there aren't a lot of mongers running around. (Traffic is so bad anyway, I don't think anyone could tell the difference.) As long as they don't walk around in minis and high heels and walk around in traffic and draw attention to themselves, it's not that big of a deal. I admit, it kind of bothered me at first, but now I don't even think about it.

    One request. Please stop posting down to us like some condescending schoolteacher and let's all get back to meaningful reporting.

  8. #8610

    Nimby

    Quote Originally Posted by Gilibee  [View Original Post]
    So I would say, ask yourself if *you* would want a massage parlor or streetwalker trade near where *you* live?
    As a matter of fact, years ago I lived in a place where prostitution was legal and there was a low-key massage parlor up the street from where I lived. Did it bother anyone? No more than the doctor's office on the same block.

    Also, since it was legal, there weren't any streetwalker strolls. There was a red light district you could go to and there were scattered bars where "working girls" were known to habituate.

    Regardless of the morality of it, decriminalizing prostitution would dramatically reduce the visible negative aspects of the business and it would improve the lives of sex workers.

  9. #8609

    Re: 1984

    Quote Originally Posted by Datsurman  [View Original Post]
    Amen! How can stupidity and hypocrisy be so universal in politics that such a law could have passed! In a 'free' country where people are on the news everyday talking about civil liberty, in a city that votes blue in every election, there exists a law that criminalizes interaction between two consenting adults.

    What is the end goal? That one day prostitution will not exist? First, it is impossible. There is a reason that prostitution is the oldest profession. Because it has been around forever and will continue to be around forever.

    Second, what is the friggin point? Let's say one day Chicagoans can not get a massage in the city. Is there ANYONE who's life would benefit from that? All the 'would-be' massage parlor employees would shrug their shoulders, find a nice $8 an hour job to support themselves and their two kids, and go to school at night to obtain their Ph. D? Is that what would happen?
    I believe that most of the prosecution tends to involve streetwalkers and massage parlors. So I would say, ask yourself if *you* would want a massage parlor or streetwalker trade near where *you* live? I suspect that while thinking about your answer to this question it will go a long way toward also answering the questions that you pose above.

    My advice is that people should try to be reasonable. While you may have perfectly valid reasons to want to monger, your actions may have negative impacts on others, and those others may not like it. Try to keep in mind the impact that your actions have on others and at least you will be a more reasonable monger.

    Quote Originally Posted by Datsurman  [View Original Post]
    Third, what are they going to do about girl X who decides to sleep with guy Y because he always picks up the check on their dates? Or who decides to date the pre-med student and not the bus driver because he's more likely to be able to *wink* take care of her and her kids? Or the girl who let's her boyfriend sleep over because he helps her with her rent? Do all those people go to jail as well? Why not?
    I would say this: if guy Y agrees to pick up the check in exchange for sex with girl X, then that would be prostitution. Of course, proving it is another thing altogether because even if guy Y and girl X had an "understanding", LE does not have mind-reading technology, so proving the case would effectively be impossible. I mean, people break laws all the time; but if there is no way for LE to catch them, then there is no way to enforce the law.

  10. #8608

    47th kedzie

    Quote Originally Posted by Swvac  [View Original Post]
    What is the name and address of this salon?

    I'm looking for a good legit massage and it sounds like you got a decent massge there.

    Thanks!
    Did anyone ever find out the name and address for the place by 47th and Kedzie. Drove by couldn't find it.

  11. #8607

    Younger Woman

    Quote Originally Posted by Swvac  [View Original Post]
    Looking for a good legit massage. Sounds like you received one from Mari.

    And for a decent price.

    What is the address of Eastern Massage?
    Younger one is Michelle, super HOT! She gives a great massage that rivals any legit out there. And that's all that she will do. She does not play even if you place her hand where you want it. Most I've ever gotten is feeling her tight ass. That she doesn't mind to much, but nothing else.

    CDT

  12. #8606

    Blooming Lotus

    Just curious if any been to the Blooming Lotus. Thanks

  13. #8605

    1984

    Amen! How can stupidity and hypocrisy be so universal in politics that such a law could have passed! In a 'free' country where people are on the news everyday talking about civil liberty, in a city that votes blue in every election, there exists a law that criminalizes interaction between two consenting adults.

    What is the end goal? That one day prostitution will not exist? First, it is impossible. There is a reason that prostitution is the oldest profession. Because it has been around forever and will continue to be around forever.

    Second, what is the friggin point? Let's say one day Chicagoans can not get a massage in the city. Is there ANYONE who's life would benefit from that? All the 'would-be' massage parlor employees would shrug their shoulders, find a nice $8 an hour job to support themselves and their two kids, and go to school at night to obtain their Ph. D? Is that what would happen?

    Third, what are they going to do about girl X who decides to sleep with guy Y because he always picks up the check on their dates? Or who decides to date the pre-med student and not the bus driver because he's more likely to be able to *wink* take care of her and her kids? Or the girl who let's her boyfriend sleep over because he helps her with her rent? Do all those people go to jail as well? Why not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Musei  [View Original Post]
    The law is a bad one and needs to be changed, the bottom line!

  14. #8604

    East Rhythm Address

    Quote Originally Posted by Swvac  [View Original Post]
    Looking for a good legit massage. Sounds like you received one from Mari.

    And for a decent price.

    What is the address of Eastern Massage?
    1631 N. Ashland. They also have a website:

    www.eastrhythm.com

    Where you can get coupons for $10 off a 1 hr massage (normally. 6) and $5 or $10 off 1/2 hr (first-time users only).

  15. #8603

    Joanna

    Quote Originally Posted by Ucdiv  [View Original Post]
    Dreamed about Joanna.

    Face: 9. She's older but a real looker. Very pretty. I would give her a 10 personally.

    Body: 10. +1 The +1 because god dayyum.

    Attitude: 10.

    Price: $.6 / hr.

    Changed my life.

    Will repeat again and again and again.
    Is that Polish Joanna?

    I agree completely. I wonder if she gives extras, saw her once, did'nt want to push it. Wanted her to be comfortable with me so I will see her again.

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