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  1. #5330

    Thanks for restoring my faith in this forum!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ready  [View Original Post]
    Glance back through the Forum, and see what is beneficial. Prior to 2005, most of us could pick up information fairly easy. A number of you have already said the same thing, so here I'm laboring the same comments.

    Fees are $60 for a half hour, or $80 for an hour. Just accept it or give this hobby up; the girls split with the house doesn't change our hourly rate. On tips, suggest using $40 (never more) for a HJ, $60 for bare, and then $80-120 for the max. For your ATF, that is between the two of you.

    What's important. The places to visit or not, which girls are special or not, and the fact it is worth our time and money. For additional details & suggestions, we can PM whoever we want.
    I agree 100. You've confirmed that some folks on this forum are paying waaaaayyyy to much for standard service. While that is their right, your and other responses I've received indicated the scale you included is exactly right on.

    Thanks

  2. #5329

    Re near Route 1. Bell Haven

    Quote Originally Posted by Criim44  [View Original Post]
    Seen a few posts on BP about a new place near the country club, this place is right around the corner from me. Was wondering if anyone had been since I'm still new to the AMP world. Visited one in landmark a few months ago and all my other experience has been with independents so I'm skeptical of most places and not sure what all I should look out for.
    I was wondering the same so came here to see if any reports. Can't see any so I decided to take one for the team.

    I am so glad I did. Place is called Shiner Therapy I guess we can call it ST!

    4 or 5 modern rooms, staffed by 2 maybe 3 Koreans. Good looking. Mimi my girl spoke good English. No table in shower. But did get a shampoo which with heat around was very nice. Has a small sauna we didn't use.

    Had an amazing massage. That was worth the 80. She detected the spots I was needing work on without any prompting. Took her time and was nice and heavy on the massage.

    Playful and focused throughout you may need to PM me for more detail I will try to log in regularly. Plenty of roaming allowed and encouraged before the flip and then went beyond a normal NOVA service IMO.

    After I had finished during dinner we still had time for frontal massage which was a good as the back.

    Its local to me and I will definitely be returning, perhaps to report on the other girl (longer dark curly hair). But would take Mimi every time.

  3. #5328

    Sounds like the "Sunny" Place

    Quote Originally Posted by Ambidextrous  [View Original Post]
    Thought I'the check out this office park location, just to get a feel for the place for possible later visits. A chunky woman in her 30s came to the door, told me they were busy, could I come back, it was. 8 / hr. She looked young for MMS, but not attractive enough to be the talent. I asked if Yung worked there (I had heard good things about her) , she shook her head no, 'all new. ' Hmmm.

    Driving around the building, I spotted a sign for a sunny place I wasn't aware of, so I stopped and rang the bell. A middle-aged woman came to the door, she seemed to have difficulty speaking, asked me to come back. Asked how much for massage, she responded with some strange hand gestures. I said I didn't understand, she said. 6 / hh, .8 / hr. I asked if she gave the massage. She said yes. Pass.
    Ambi, this sounds like the place I wrote about in my post a few weeks ago. If it was near / at the end it was the same place. This place seems to be a one / two person shop where the providers are the managers as well. See my post for details.

    There is at least one other spot in this complex. It is on the upper floor and does give TS.

  4. #5327
    Quote Originally Posted by Fatpig  [View Original Post]
    I wanted to try out MWC but could not find it. Drove around about 30 minutes searching for it. I did not have the directions or map at the time. Oh well next time. Did not want to go down rt 50 for the 7 corners spot even though its 60$ for the hour now.
    Shit just looked it up. I took the exit to 7corners. Dam. MWC will be hit next time now!

  5. #5326

    Finally Some Sensability Has Arrived!

    Excellent Post! These are the most reasonable rates for the NoVa world. Do or do not follow this suggeston but please keep arguments in PM mode and not in the open.

    JJ

    Quote Originally Posted by Ready  [View Original Post]
    Glance back through the Forum, and see what is beneficial. Prior to 2005, most of us could pick up information fairly easy. A number of you have already said the same thing, so here I'm laboring the same comments.

    Fees are $60 for a half hour, or $80 for an hour. Just accept it or give this hobby up; the girls split with the house doesn't change our hourly rate. On tips, suggest using $40 (never more) for a HJ, $60 for bare, and then $80-120 for the max. For your ATF, that is between the two of you.

    What's important. The places to visit or not, which girls are special or not, and the fact it is worth our time and money. For additional details & suggestions, we can PM whoever we want.

  6. #5325
    I wanted to try out MWC but could not find it. Drove around about 30 minutes searching for it. I did not have the directions or map at the time. Oh well next time. Did not want to go down rt 50 for the 7 corners spot even though its 60$ for the hour now.

    So I doubled around and went to Papaya. Place is a bit run down but whatever. MMS led me in. I asked for YUNG but it is actually YOUNG. I did not lie I was not there before. In comes Angela. Not really my cup of tea. Shower was busy so she gave a half ass massage with oil. Then 20 minutes in we go shower. Basic TS. More light to semi medium massage then good flip. Did alot of talking. And wanted more tip. And I tipped GOOD. LOL. Crazy. Plus she could go with shaving her legs. Not so smooth.

    On the way out I saw black haired lady, thin, looked a bit older but she was wearing black dress. Not bad. Maybe this was Young or Lisa that are also there per the mms.

  7. #5324
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    Posts: 19

    Lisa / Papaya

    I called first, asking for Yoyo, and was told she was working that day. Of course she turned out not to be there. This is SOP at some spas so I wasn't too surprised. This was my first visit to Papaya, and I liked the surroundings and decided to see who mms would send. Lisa looks to be in her early 30s, a bit above average looks, around 5'7', dark hair to mid-back and has a thin but athletic body with bee cups. Not really my type but she gave excellent service in every part of the session, so I ended up being happy that I saw her.

    The TS was thorough and went beyond cleaning to include some massage. She lingered over certain areas, and I got the vibe that this would be a fun session. She said things like, 'you like the light touch. ' If you see her I'the advise against agreeing with this. I read a review of her on another site, where talking about light touch led to a very short session back in the room. Instead, I told her I like a hard massage, and she went with that. It was long, therapeutic, and included stretching (which was great, I'm not very limber). She worked very hard. Just prior to the flip she planted a series of small kisses on my back and blew in my ear. After stripping down she started out with a sensual massage and light kisses and we were headed for a standard nova finish. A little polite negotiation followed and the menu expanded. I'll just say that I'm glad that it did.

    She works fourteen days in a row and then has seven off. She's down here from NY, so who knows how long she'll be here.

    Happy hunting

  8. #5323

    I hope someone could help

    I hope you all doing fine in this heat. I'm looking for one girl and hope someone seen her somewhere and would be able to PM me where. Her name is Yoyo. She used to work at Orange in DC, then she moved to NoVa sometime in late summer of 09. She worked at Golden Spa in Alexandria (395 and Little River Tnpk corner). I believe she been there until late spring of 2010 then I've lost track of her. Not too long ago I've learned she may still be in Alexandria, different place. She is typical Korean lady, bit older, tight body about 5'2", speak English little to nothing. She may also be known as Nana or Lora. Anyone, anything please PM. Thanks to you all and be safe.

  9. #5322

    Just one more thing and

    I'll shut up. First thanks for the appreciation. Second, I read the forum every couple of days and I read everything. Just like you've said there is always some usefull info. Third I understand that tipping discussion is as important as any other. I think tip info should be in every report. It just appears to me that one person overtipping at one place one girl one time is not going to raise it for the rest of us. Same like one guy undertipping is not doing us favor by lowering the price. Ok now I shut up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bunker Buster  [View Original Post]
    Telling people to shut up is indeed expressing an opinion, but it's a wet blanket onto the valid discussions of other contributing participants in an open forum.

    I appreciate your reviews and contributions, and your insight into the hobby, but I think you're letting your dislike of the topic of tipping become an I'dée fixe.

    Considering that the amount of tip expected for service changes over time, and that cost is one of the big 3 factors in the hobby (with service and safety probably the other two) , telling people not to talk about tipping, ie, how much service costs, is like telling them to stop talking about how they define GFE.

    You might as well go into a stock-trading forum and tell people to shut up already about fees and commissions. Do the E-Trade baby commercials bother you too?

    Once upon a time, I could go to an AMP in DC, pay the house 60, and for a 100 tip, get everything I was thinking about. Now I find that the same amounts are being paid for a Nova standard. I learned this by reading it here, to my surprise and dismay.

    I find the discussions on tipping helpful to gauge the market over time, and also to try to dissuade newbies from overtipping and both wasting their money and driving up costs and expectations.

    There are plenty of topics and discussions on the various boards that don't interest me, but I accept having to scroll past them as the cost of participating in an open forum.

    We know you don't care for tip (I. E,"cost") discussions, so just skip past them, read the reviews you like, and as an established senior, feel free to PM me or anyone else for more details on things that interest you.

  10. #5321

    7 Corners reconnaissance

    Thought I'the check out this office park location, just to get a feel for the place for possible later visits. A chunky woman in her 30s came to the door, told me they were busy, could I come back, it was. 8 / hr. She looked young for MMS, but not attractive enough to be the talent. I asked if Yung worked there (I had heard good things about her) , she shook her head no, 'all new. ' Hmmm.

    Driving around the building, I spotted a sign for a sunny place I wasn't aware of, so I stopped and rang the bell. A middle-aged woman came to the door, she seemed to have difficulty speaking, asked me to come back. Asked how much for massage, she responded with some strange hand gestures. I said I didn't understand, she said. 6 / hh, .8 / hr. I asked if she gave the massage. She said yes. Pass.

  11. #5320

    Laboring some subjects to death!

    Glance back through the Forum, and see what is beneficial. Prior to 2005, most of us could pick up information fairly easy. A number of you have already said the same thing, so here I'm laboring the same comments.

    Fees are $60 for a half hour, or $80 for an hour. Just accept it or give this hobby up; the girls split with the house doesn't change our hourly rate. On tips, suggest using $40 (never more) for a HJ, $60 for bare, and then $80-120 for the max. For your ATF, that is between the two of you.

    What's important. The places to visit or not, which girls are special or not, and the fact it is worth our time and money. For additional details & suggestions, we can PM whoever we want.

  12. #5319

    CTM Springfield

    Long time away travelling for business abroad, I am back in the area to enjoy some Korean relaxation. My therapist at CTM was Yumi who gave a friendly welcome upon arrival. For those who know Sara, I found Yumi a bit more attractive and friendly than Sara but she is not a spinner or young. Yumi gives a great table shower, she does massage you a bit while you're being washed. No sauna in this venue. Back in the room; her massage skills are definitely above average. While her massage is sensual she also provided a very proficient and strong therapeutic massage with some stretching. Standard VA finish but very nicely done. After finish she continued massaging me to fill the hour. Overall positive experience and would recommend her.

  13. #5318
    Quote Originally Posted by BlkPrinceVa  [View Original Post]
    Based on the responses to our respective posts: 1) I should have tipped something, even if it was small. I agree and will do so in the future; and 2) Hobbiest like you are driving the cost up by paying way too much for minimal service. It's interesting you never answered my original question so I'll assume that you paid the house 80 and tipped 80 for a total of 160 for standard service. If this is what it takes to pursue this hobby in NoVa, I'll be retiring soon.

    Question for the forum: Are we all in agreement that the HJ / HE is an extra service? Isn't this the minimum that we pursue this hobby for? If not, we're saying that we're paying 80 for a massage and maybe a table shower? Is that the general consensus?
    Dude,

    $80 for an hour in NOVA is a rip off IMHO. However it is what it is now. $60 for a half hr is even worse deal. This is what I pay in CA for 1 hour, HJ, roaming etc. I have even gotten a girl in a private residence thats does this occassionally to $65 for massagi and FS and 2 pops with the 2nd a HJ.

    Anyway, the tips subject can go ad nauseum. Standard was. 40 but with inflation its. 60 I gather whatever you give is what you give. I give whatever I feel right and I don't give a shit what anybody thinks as no one here pays my car payment, insurance or mortgage.

    PC out

  14. #5317
    Regular Member


    Posts: 19

    Lucky

    I hadn't tasted any peaches & cream since winter, but I decided to go back today. I drew Lucky; she has a sexy smoker's voice, some light brown highlights in her hair, bee cups, early 30s, about 5'6", a very nice smile, and a pleasant, laid back manner.

    Overall, I got the impression that she is observant and varies the session to meet the client's needs. For example, my feet are pretty beat up. She noticed this during the TS and proceeded to use some kind of block to buff them, and then really worked them over. After she was satisfied with her work, she went back to the standard TS rubbing and scrubbing. She then started a soapy massage that felt really good.

    Back in the room, she saw that my muscles were tight and then went with a hard massage, which was just what I needed. Early in the session, she spread her legs and kind of propelled herself from my waist to my upper back, using her knees to work out the kinks. She also used her feet in the massage more than any therapist I've had. And she also devoted more time to back walking than other therapists I've seen. After the flip, she had me put the bottoms of my feet together with my knees sticking out, and by standing on my feet in just the right way (it looked like she was doing a dance) , caused my knees to move towards the floor, which stretched the muscles in my inner thighs very nicely. I should emphasize that in addition to the quality of the massage, Lucky was playful, though it is sometimes hard to understand what she was saying.

    Once she stripped down to her panties, she became more playful, having a certain part of her anatomy "talk" to me. No touching there, unfortunately. We moved to some Russian, and then a lot of eye contact during the main event.

    She used some towels on me, helped me dress, and then gave me a bottle of water. She mentioned that she does two-hour sessions (I suppose business is slow) and that she works every day.

    Happy hunting

  15. #5316

    M&m

    I decided to try a VA parlor for a bit of a change of pace today. I travel to Baltimore often enough that I'm able to take advantage of the fantastic establishments on the north side of that city, and I hadn't been to a NOVA or DC place since most of the DuPont area spots disappeared. In general, I think both the ladies and the experiences are better up north than around here. However, YMMV at any place at any time.

    I stopped in, and I think I was the only one there. Until someone came in just a couple minutes after I did. Mamasan collected the. 8 hour house fee, and sent in Judy, who later said her name was Kim (?). In any case, she was about 5' 3" and about 140-150 lbs, in her early 40s (she later told me she was 42). Not really my style, but she came in as the other gentleman was being escorted to his room, and I figured I wouldn't ask for a switch. The TS was nice and thorough, with attention paid to all the right areas. Back in the room she helped me dry off a bit more, and then she put on some music and went to work.

    Her massage skills are above average, and she does a nice job of mixing good pressure with a light touch. I didn't attempt to roam, and she later told me I was a gentleman. Apparently she doesn't like folks who do that, so I suspect it's not really on her menu. Normally I like to roam, but not this time, so I guess I should be happy I got "credit" for it.

    After working the kinks out it was time for the flip. After a bit more massage, we chatted for awhile about her life in the states. She then began suggesting what else might be available for. 6, and she just wasn't interested in the. 4 that I thought was appropriate. I don't like to argue for a long time. Talking someone into doing something for less than what she thinks it's worth just doesn't work well in my experience. Plus it kills the mood. So I just had her finish working out a knot in my shoulder, and then she helped me get dressed and left. I was there for 70 minutes, so I left her. 3 for the additional time and the fact it had been a nice massage. I met BeBe on my way out, she seems to have a bit of a wilder spark that Judy / Kim has. I may return for her.

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