Massage Parlor Reports

[Griswold]

I assume that those of you who believe that this is a hobby are very proud of this hobby, right? And that you have told your wife about your hobby? No? Why not? How about your doctor? When you go for your annual physical, and your doctor asks if you have any hobbies, you state with a great deal of pride,"I visit Asian Massage Parlors."

I went to Jasmine this morning and got "Cindy." Probably late 30's, looks like the wash woman, small chest. I took the half hour massage, which based on past experience and experience at other places, should cost $40. She asked for $50, which should have tipped me off that it was all about the money. I said thank you anyway, and started to put my shoes back on to leave. She ran out to talk with someone else in Chinese, than came back and said "Ok, Ok." I gave her the $40, got undressed and hopped on the table. She came in, draped me with a towel, and gave me a very good, but hard massage. A few times I had to tell her to lighten up. When she did my neck, I thought she was going to sever my spinal cord, and when she did my back I thought she was going to crush a rib. Anyway, massage was very good once she lightened up. About 20 minutes in, she took the towel off and started the tease. Very nice tease. Very light in just the right spots. She then had me flip, and provided the HE. Very good technique. She got the hot towel, cleaned me up, and then I got up and got dressed. She was changing the towels on the table, and then just stood there watching me get dressed. She didn't say a word, but just kept standing there watching. She was making me nervous. When I finally finished getting dressed, I gave her a $20 tip for the half hour massage, which is what I normally give. Not only did she not say thank you, she said,"More. I do." and then she gave the universal sign for a HE. I said that was my normal tip. She said no, she needs more. This went back and forth a bit, until finally I told her that was it and I was leaving. She actually moved to block me from exiting. I finally got by her, but was so turned off by this ending that I will not go back there.

[Adobe]

I've had several providers tell me that time is money and they expect a tip accordingly for longer sessions. Then again, I've had numerous times where the provider went way over time and when I tried to tip more was told no, not necessary. If owner is provider and the house is higher than usual, I don't tip at all as there is that old adage that you never tip the owner but in certain cases where I see the owner, and the house is standard, I always tip well as the experience is excellent (and somehow gets better every time, if that is possible).

Point is, tipping is relative to circumstance; there are some basic guidelines one should follow in fairness to the provider but beyond that its a personal matter. That said, common sense will tell you that if you cheap out, don't expect to have fun a second time.

JMHO.

ND

Agreed: tipping is relative to circumstance. I'll drop more for a longer session, but let's face it most of the time the hour session is more like 50 minutes anyway, if that, and if the house didn't get the extra fee from me for the hour session, more than likely the lady would not have been busy during that extra time anyway. I'll offer a little bit more for the longer session. An extra. 2 in tip at most. But if the masseuse tries to turn it into a short session, I'll tip accordingly.

[AsianLPGAfan]

You call it flaming and we call it policing ourselves as to be fair to the provider and in the end ourselves. Here is my. 02 not that you asked for it or even care. So you went out and had your visit. Pissed her off in the door fee dept and then again in the tip dept. And how is that being fair to the masseuse as you wrote? So I go in to see her (or someone she knows and talks to) later that day or the next. And what do I get. A distrustful, pissed off provider who isn't going to give me the service or the session that I want and probably would have gotten if she hadn't been shortchanged on the tip that she SHOULD have gotten. And yes it is obvious when that happens just like it is obvious when one of us has a bad day. The massage may not be as good, the back and forth may not be as nice and now being distrustful she may want the tip upfront which tends to ruin the mood. So yes your being a cheap bastard does ruin it for others.

As far as an addiction or a hobby. I've been doing this for 30 years ON and OFF. The reason for the on and off is that when times are tight I cut back or just don't go at all. In the last 2 years I had a period where I was out of work for 5 months and didn't go and lived through your experiences on the board. And with the current economic climate I've only been a couple of times since last fall. I don't have the extra scratch so I'm not going to go. I'm not as you said going to put my family in peril to get a HJ. And to be qable to enjoy that every once in awhile experience I just don't spend elsewhere. At 5-10 bucks a week on lunch I make it myself now and save that $ for my visit. Same with morning java. I make it myself, I don't go out with the 'gang' and drop bucks. We all spend on ourselves and if we are willing to trade one for another then we can deal.

On the other hand if your a 'sex addict' and need 'strange' all the time then I guess it can be an addiction. Of course it is emotional or mental rather than a physical one. Which category you fall into I don't know and I wish you luck. But not being fair to the hard working providers is a shame and TBH one that we won't stand for. So your out on an island my friend.

I imagine one can judge by there frame of reference. Addicts are impaired in their life and and its the harm in some way to continue their habits be that physically, financially, emotionally / psychologically or spiritually damaging to themselves.

My pursuits as a hobby are limited by my realities of real life and genuine commitments to family and work. It is certainly a self indulgent experience but if I don't have the cash to spend.

I am not going to beg steal or borrow or do something foolish to my credit to get a TS and then something.

The ethics of tipping have been described well here. I certainly try to do so fairly if effort has been tried.

If lousy service is given the tip will be at the expected minimum and word will get out to the brotherhood here to be cautious expecting more.

There is certainly quite a dark side to all of this that is done and that is where the stereotyping gets down both to us and the ladies we see.

All we can try to do be is decent and gentlemanly.

[Dan Wesson]

HJL may have a point on spending too much money on a hobby, but an addiction is a psychological dependence on psychoactive substances which cross the blood-brain barrier. I would consider any HJ I get that manages to cross the blood-brain barrier to be a religious experience and I for one will go to my grave a happy man.

However, this forum is not a pulpit for your sermons on the evils of this pastime (a word I like much better) and in short you are a buzzkill.

I wish you luck in trying to withdraw from our pastime and I am sure your current tipping policy will speed you along your path as no one will book a session with you.

[Stan Daround]

I'm guessing this was the Golden Flower (suite 1A) that opened up in Feb. The reviews on that place were good with a topless HJ the usual outcome. The massage was good and the tease also worthwhile. Sounds like they have changed again and not for the better.

I got the same outcome posted here last time I was there. I saw the name change and went back for a visit without an appointment. The exact same crew was there so I walked out. I went to Main street in Medford accross from Dunkin and got typical AAMP service.

[Lefty411]

You call it flaming and we call it policing ourselves as to be fair to the provider and in the end ourselves. Here is my. 02 not that you asked for it or even care. So you went out and had your visit. Pissed her off in the door fee dept and then again in the tip dept. And how is that being fair to the masseuse as you wrote? So I go in to see her (or someone she knows and talks to) later that day or the next. And what do I get. A distrustful, pissed off provider who isn't going to give me the service or the session that I want and probably would have gotten if she hadn't been shortchanged on the tip that she SHOULD have gotten. And yes it is obvious when that happens just like it is obvious when one of us has a bad day. The massage may not be as good, the back and forth may not be as nice and now being distrustful she may want the tip upfront which tends to ruin the mood. So yes your being a cheap bastard does ruin it for others.

As far as an addiction or a hobby. I've been doing this for 30 years ON and OFF. The reason for the on and off is that when times are tight I cut back or just don't go at all. In the last 2 years I had a period where I was out of work for 5 months and didn't go and lived through your experiences on the board. And with the current economic climate I've only been a couple of times since last fall. I don't have the extra scratch so I'm not going to go. I'm not as you said going to put my family in peril to get a HJ. And to be qable to enjoy that every once in awhile experience I just don't spend elsewhere. At 5-10 bucks a week on lunch I make it myself now and save that $ for my visit. Same with morning java. I make it myself, I don't go out with the 'gang' and drop bucks. We all spend on ourselves and if we are willing to trade one for another then we can deal.

On the other hand if your a 'sex addict' and need 'strange' all the time then I guess it can be an addiction. Of course it is emotional or mental rather than a physical one. Which category you fall into I don't know and I wish you luck. But not being fair to the hard working providers is a shame and TBH one that we won't stand for. So your out on an island my friend.

As I said before you do have a way with words! Well said

[Stressed Out]

Flame me all you want, but the reality is that you (and I) all have an addiction. You can rationalize it as a "hobby," but that just makes you feel better about your addiction. Stamp collecting is a hobby. What you and I are engaged in is an addiction. Given the fact that we cannot control this impulse, I try not to let the financial impact devastate my family and our ability to pay our bills. I will continue to frequent the establishments where the masseuse and I both agree that the tip is fair.

You call it flaming and we call it policing ourselves as to be fair to the provider and in the end ourselves. Here is my .02 not that you asked for it or even care. So you went out and had your visit. Pissed her off in the door fee dept and then again in the tip dept. And how is that being fair to the masseuse as you wrote? So I go in to see her (or someone she knows and talks to) later that day or the next. And what do I get. A distrustful, pissed off provider who isn't going to give me the service or the session that I want and probably would have gotten if she hadn't been shortchanged on the tip that she SHOULD have gotten. And yes it is obvious when that happens just like it is obvious when one of us has a bad day. The massage may not be as good, the back and forth may not be as nice and now being distrustful she may want the tip upfront which tends to ruin the mood. So yes your being a cheap bastard does ruin it for others.

As far as an addiction or a hobby. I've been doing this for 30 years ON and OFF. The reason for the on and off is that when times are tight I cut back or just don't go at all. In the last 2 years I had a period where I was out of work for 5 months and didn't go and lived through your experiences on the board. And with the current economic climate I've only been a couple of times since last fall. I don't have the extra scratch so I'm not going to go. I'm not as you said going to put my family in peril to get a HJ. And to be qable to enjoy that every once in awhile experience I just don't spend elsewhere. At 5-10 bucks a week on lunch I make it myself now and save that $ for my visit. Same with morning java. I make it myself, I don't go out with the 'gang' and drop bucks. We all spend on ourselves and if we are willing to trade one for another then we can deal.

On the other hand if your a 'sex addict' and need 'strange' all the time then I guess it can be an addiction. Of course it is emotional or mental rather than a physical one. Which category you fall into I don't know and I wish you luck. But not being fair to the hard working providers is a shame and TBH one that we won't stand for. So your out on an island my friend.

[Tinynuts99]

Have seen Shirley in Lexington a couple of time s & had a good experience. Good massage with ample teasing & flirting. As others have reported limited access to Shirley's assets but the last time I did manage to get ahold of those big nips. She has a great backside & flirty, fun attitude. Easy parking and a handy finish.

6 plus. 4 tip.

By the way does every AMP have at least one Shirley?

[Stressed Out]

I TOFFT at Red Dragon in Medford recently. There is some on-street 1-hour and 2-hour parking near there, but can be pretty hard to find. The mamasan suggested I part at the nearby CVS or in a bank's parking lot.

I drew Lulu, a 40-50 slim provider, A- cups. Massage was mediocre, focused mostly on the back. Not arms, legs, or glutes. The back "massage" was cut short by the phone and she returned after answering the call with a hot towel. One tiny hot towel then flip. Some gentle rubbing on the torso with no teasing or hint of any extras. After guiding her hands to where I wanted, she finished it off pretty mechanically, all the while saying that they don't normally do this there. Minimal OTC roaming.

Will not repeat. Total damage. 6+.4

I'm guessing this was the Golden Flower (suite 1A) that opened up in Feb. The reviews on that place were good with a topless HJ the usual outcome. The massage was good and the tease also worthwhile. Sounds like they have changed again and not for the better.

[Smoke Screen]

Flame me all you want, but the reality is that you (and I) all have an addiction. You can rationalize it as a "hobby," but that just makes you feel better about your addiction. Stamp collecting is a hobby. What you and I are engaged in is an addiction. Given the fact that we cannot control this impulse, I try not to let the financial impact devastate my family and our ability to pay our bills. I will continue to frequent the establishments where the masseuse and I both agree that the tip is fair.

Oh, I think you are completely wrong. This is definately a hobby. A hobby is something you do for relaxation and or pleasure, and this accomplishes both. I'm sure if you look in the dictionary the definition will be similar. Much like your definition of hobby being stamp collecting, this hobby is collecting experiences. Also, collecting things that interest you can be addicting, such as stamps, coins, collectibles and yes, even experiences like we "collect" here.

[Phindroid]

I TOFFT at Red Dragon in Medford recently. There is some on-street 1-hour and 2-hour parking near there, but can be pretty hard to find. The mamasan suggested I part at the nearby CVS or in a bank's parking lot.

I drew Lulu, a 40-50 slim provider, A- cups. Massage was mediocre, focused mostly on the back. Not arms, legs, or glutes. The back "massage" was cut short by the phone and she returned after answering the call with a hot towel. One tiny hot towel then flip. Some gentle rubbing on the torso with no teasing or hint of any extras. After guiding her hands to where I wanted, she finished it off pretty mechanically, all the while saying that they don't normally do this there. Minimal OTC roaming.

Will not repeat. Total damage. 6+.4

[Spaz2580]

You're welcome.

Your problem is more w / being cheap. If you don't have the funds, then don't go.

Thank you for your professional advice. In fact, I DO recognize my problem and I AM getting help. Recognizing the problem is the first step in fixing it. It sucks looking back over the years and realizing I have spent thousands of dollars for HJ's. I am trying my best to limit my visits. This is a tough addiction to break. If you doubt me, see how long you can go without a HJ at a MP. Then tell me that it's a "hobby" rather than an addiction.

[Newday53]

I always pay the standard tip for a one hour session and would tip more for a 90 minute session if the session was very good and the house fees for 60 and 90 minute sessions were the same.

I've had several providers tell me that time is money and they expect a tip accordingly for longer sessions. Then again, I've had numerous times where the provider went way over time and when I tried to tip more was told no, not necessary. If owner is provider and the house is higher than usual, I don't tip at all as there is that old adage that you never tip the owner but in certain cases where I see the owner, and the house is standard, I always tip well as the experience is excellent (and somehow gets better every time, if that is possible).

Point is, tipping is relative to circumstance; there are some basic guidelines one should follow in fairness to the provider but beyond that its a personal matter. That said, common sense will tell you that if you cheap out, don't expect to have fun a second time.

JMHO.

ND

[Sjbwm09]

Flame me all you want, but the reality is that you (and I) all have an addiction. You can rationalize it as a "hobby," but that just makes you feel better about your addiction. Stamp collecting is a hobby. What you and I are engaged in is an addiction. Given the fact that we cannot control this impulse, I try not to let the financial impact devastate my family and our ability to pay our bills. I will continue to frequent the establishments where the masseuse and I both agree that the tip is fair.

Ummm. Obviously though you and the masseuse DIDN'T agree on what was a FAIR tip.

You decided what you wanted to pay. And that WASN'T agreeable to her.

So, save more, frequent less. Pay what is appropriate.

[Griswold]

Thank you for your professional advice. In fact, I DO recognize my problem and I AM getting help. Recognizing the problem is the first step in fixing it. It sucks looking back over the years and realizing I have spent thousands of dollars for HJ's. I am trying my best to limit my visits. This is a tough addiction to break. If you doubt me, see how long you can go without a HJ at a MP. Then tell me that it's a "hobby" rather than an addiction.

Maybe you need help. Call Dr. Phil. Better yet, buy some porn and DIY, problem solved for your case of cheapitis.