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  1. #6188
    Sometimes I wish if they go away, I never have to see or hear from them again, unless they got back into the game first.

    I had to go to a SW's funeral a few weeks ago. It was really uncomfortable having people I don't know coming up to me asking how I met her.

  2. #6187
    Quote Originally Posted by Cls9637  [View Original Post]
    I'm not certain why I wasted my time answering your ridiculous question, but I did. Perhaps you should try reading beyond the first line.

    This conversation is over.
    It is our great loss that you ended the conversation before benifiting us from your legal wisdom and deep interpretation when you said:

    Quote Originally Posted by Cls9637
    There is a term for this. Stalking. Unless you had a relationship where you were also "friends," meaning you knew where she lived, exchanged phone numbers, maintained contact even without "dating," etc. the answer is an emphatic NO!
    Then you wonder why I did not ready beyond the first line.

  3. #6186
    Quote Originally Posted by SoCalMonger  [View Original Post]
    Personally I don't see anything wrong with getting in contact with these girls. So long as you use some discretion. I would trying going during the daytime when there is less people around. Just don't be obnoxious about.
    Thank you, the intent is to offer some financial support to someone who has a heafty traffic fine, without risking that she will be drawn with the low crowd.

  4. #6185

    You keep rationalising

    You asked for our opinions and the consensus seems to be leave them alone yet you keep trying to rationalise a reason to pursue your wants. By offering these girls money that they are not necesarily looking for, is just presenting them with opportunity you are possibly triggering off the compulsions all over again. Sure they could do something else with the money but do you really think they are that strong willed. Most struggle with recovering from a drug addiction so why dangle a carrot in front of the horse and risk ruining someones life all over again.

  5. #6184
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1785
    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo  [View Original Post]
    You are far off the mark. We have used the term "stalking" loosely as a form of candid attack from time to time. Did you notice I used the term approach. To to put the bullshit and attacks to rest, here is the final word in Maryland: Md. Criminal law Code Ann. § 3-802. Stalking. (2004)

    (a)"Stalking" defined. In this section,"stalking" means a malicious course of conduct that includes approaching or pursuing another where the person intends to place or knows or reasonably should have known the conduct would place another in reasonable fear.

    The code is clear, for example the term "course of conduct" means a persistent pattern of conduct, composed of a series of acts over time, that shows a continuity of purpose. I am simply approaching an old aquaintance to see if she would give me another BJ. The worst she can tell me is that she raised her fees. Once a person puts a price on sex, everything else is a matter of negotiations.

    Also, as you kow, many of the girls retired from Street Walking in favor of dating using cell phones. Also as a reminder, I recall at least two SW who post here trying to get in touch with "old Friends" (Ms. EXSW and Leah French). They are now smarter and conduct business with the Select Few.

    My other point. That was not my questions.
    I'm not certain why I wasted my time answering your ridiculous question, but I did. Perhaps you should try reading beyond the first line.

    This conversation is over.

  6. #6183
    Quote Originally Posted by Tottomim  [View Original Post]
    Please, do not think with the little head on this subject ..... I have family members who have left the "biz" as a result of trying to leave the drugs. If you contact these women, you risk ....... If she is your "friend" she would have contacted you. But, people in recovery must, by necessity, leave some "friends" behind .... The point is, it's her choice, not ours.
    All I am hearing is logical, but stops short of convincing because we need to seperate drugs from sex. There is nothing wrong with a girl doing some dating on the side to be able to afford Christmas gifts, pay an elelctric bill, or a heafty traffic fine. Life goes downhill when that money is used for drugs. The $20 and $30 dates are by no means a fair market value for the effort and physical part that goes with the trade. They accept standard tuition because that is the cost of their next high, that is for an addicted SWs. As for most BackPage girls who do not use drugs, they demand respect and fair market compensation. I do not see any reason why a SW recovering from drugs should not be treated with respect and paid fair. To most recoverign SWs, some business on the side means the difference between standing up or slipping back. Sex is beautiful, drugs are ugly. It is also good when you do them after rehab, and they are twice the size

  7. #6182

    Lombardo

    Personally I don't see anything wrong with getting in contact with these girls. So long as you use some discretion. I would trying going during the daytime when there is less people around. Just don't be obnoxious about.

  8. #6181

    Do not contact

    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, I was able to locate 3 favorit retired SW. Along with their recent traffic violations, the addresses were listed. I did a little MapQuesting and the girls have not moved too far.

    The opinion of my board of trustees is important, so here is my rationale.

    Each of the girls has a prostitution conviction, each have left the area to be away from drugs, and each is in need of cash. My relationship with each was pleasant, and generous. Still on good terms, as far as I know. Each has no criminal conviction after retirement from the streets. Retirement from the streets does not mean retirement from the trade.

    One of the girls is EZ. Any suggestions on how to accidnetally run into her and propose? Thanks.
    Please, do not think with the little head on this subject. The question is not whether it is stalking or approaching. It probably is legal. But, it is most certainly the wrong thing to do.

    I have family members who have left the "biz" as a result of trying to leave the drugs. If you contact these women, you risk her attempt at change, you risk ruining her family life as it may now exist, and you risk having your ass beat if I ever saw you near my recovering loved one. If she is your "friend" she would have contacted you. But, people in recovery must, by necessity, leave some "friends" behind. Now, if you see her on a BackPage ad, why then, go for it! The point is, it's her choice, not ours. Peace.

  9. #6180
    Senior Member


    Posts: 160

    Is that

    Bacon I smell?

    Quote Originally Posted by John123  [View Original Post]
    I actually went to school with both Shannon and Kristen never picked them up because they know me to well, this jenna that you talk about is she Shannon's sister she has a sister named Jenna who is much younger but I don't know if I would reconize her or not, anyone know or have pics of any of them?

  10. #6179

    Conklin steert girls

    I actually went to school with both Shannon and Kristen never picked them up because they know me to well, this jenna that you talk about is she Shannon's sister she has a sister named Jenna who is much younger but I don't know if I would reconize her or not, anyone know or have pics of any of them?

  11. #6178
    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, I was able to locate 3 favorit retired SW. Along with their recent traffic violations, the addresses were listed. I did a little MapQuesting and the girls have not moved too far.

    The opinion of my board of trustees is important, so here is my rationale.

    Each of the girls has a prostitution conviction, each have left the area to be away from drugs, and each is in need of cash. My relationship with each was pleasant, and generous. Still on good terms, as far as I know. Each has no criminal conviction after retirement from the streets. Retirement from the streets does not mean retirement from the trade.

    One of the girls is EZ. Any suggestions on how to accidnetally run into her and propose? Thanks.
    Having a good mongering relationship is different from having a good personal relationship. If you are approaching a girl who have left the streets and trying to pull her back then you are more pimp than monger. Most girls are not leaving the SW they are leaving the drugs, so if you are a good friend to the girl your relationship woulld not change.

  12. #6177

    Approach

    Quote Originally Posted by Cls9637  [View Original Post]
    There is a term for this. Stalking. Unless you had a relationship where you were also "friends," meaning you knew where she lived, exchanged phone numbers, maintained contact even without "dating," etc. the answer is an emphatic NO!
    You are far off the mark. We have used the term "stalking" loosely as a form of candid attack from time to time. Did you notice I used the term approach. To to put the bullshit and attacks to rest, here is the final word in Maryland: Md. Criminal law Code Ann. § 3-802. Stalking. (2004)

    (a)"Stalking" defined.. In this section,"stalking" means a malicious course of conduct that includes approaching or pursuing another where the person intends to place or knows or reasonably should have known the conduct would place another in reasonable fear.

    The code is clear, for example the term "course of conduct" means a persistent pattern of conduct, composed of a series of acts over time, that shows a continuity of purpose. I am simply approaching an old aquaintance to see if she would give me another BJ. The worst she can tell me is that she raised her fees. Once a person puts a price on sex, everything else is a matter of negotiations.

    Also, as you kow, many of the girls retired from Street Walking in favor of dating using cell phones. Also as a reminder, I recall at least two SW who post here trying to get in touch with "old Friends" (Ms.EXSW and Leah French). They are now smarter and conduct business with the Select Few.

    My other point ... that was not my questions.

  13. #6176
    Quote Originally Posted by Baltimonger  [View Original Post]
    Thank Dog we cleared that up.
    I'm here too! Look. Lmao!

  14. #6175
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1785

    Stalking

    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, I was able to locate 3 favorit retired SW. Along with their recent traffic violations, the addresses were listed. I did a little MapQuesting and the girls have not moved too far.

    The opinion of my board of trustees is important, so here is my rationale.

    Each of the girls has a prostitution conviction, each have left the area to be away from drugs, and each is in need of cash. My relationship with each was pleasant, and generous. Still on good terms, as far as I know. Each has no criminal conviction after retirement from the streets. Retirement from the streets does not mean retirement from the trade.

    One of the girls is EZ. Any suggestions on how to accidnetally run into her and propose? Thanks.
    There is a term for this. Stalking. Unless you had a relationship where you were also "friends," meaning you knew where she lived, exchanged phone numbers, maintained contact even without "dating," etc. the answer is an emphatic NO! These girls only do what they do for the medication, and once the medication is no longer needed, their way of life changes. Frequently they are embarrassed and / or disgusted by what they were doing and don't want to be reminded of it. They also don't want anyone in their current environment knowing what they used to do. In addition, the addresses you have are the ones given at the time of arrest, which could be her parents, a boyfriend at the time, or a multitude of other addresses. I had a girl once give MY address when she was arrested! There are exceptions, but very seldom. I have had a couple of girls from the past contact me a while after they got away from the life, but these were girls who thought of me as a friend also, and wanted to maintain contact. I still maintain contact with several of them, but with one exception they are no longer "in the business." Retirement from the streets usually DOES mean retirement from the trade.

  15. #6174
    Quote Originally Posted by Lombardo  [View Original Post]
    Thanks to Maryland Judiciary Case Search, I was able to locate 3 favorit retired SW. Along with their recent traffic violations, the addresses were listed. I did a little MapQuesting and the girls have not moved too far.

    The opinion of my board of trustees is important, so here is my rationale.

    Each of the girls has a prostitution conviction, each have left the area to be away from drugs, and each is in need of cash. My relationship with each was pleasant, and generous. Still on good terms, as far as I know. Each has no criminal conviction after retirement from the streets. Retirement from the streets does not mean retirement from the trade.

    One of the girls is EZ. Any suggestions on how to accidnetally run into her and propose? Thanks.
    The girls have left to get away fron drugs and life style and the lure of easy money could suck them back in how do you know they are in need of cash. I would leave those girls alone and let them get on with there lives.

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