Massage Parlor Reports

**Pcpc1688** · 04-07-11 10:44

It still baffles me that we still can pay upwards of 1. 6 for a fucking HJ. 1.2 for a HJ is already robbery. Guess people around here make too much money.

PC out

**Volvos40** · 04-07-11 10:25

On mobile. This is a Chinese spa with great massage. No HE though, just a great massage. See Michelle. .7. 2 for the hour.

**Dr Bombay** · 04-06-11 21:38

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.

The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.

Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.

If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?

I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.

I see you like to mix the oranges with the apples. As with most service people, it is no secret that they depend on tips It's stupid to suppose otherwise. It's not ethical or moral to claim that people with limited skills can "leave" a job at will, especially the relatively easy money jobs. To say there are laws against slavery but to be a participant in the industry that most authorities say promotes slavery is hypocritical and self serving, to say the least. I don't get your comparison about parking your car. Do you check your settings before giving a tip? You lost me on that one.

Finally (and I guess we agree to disagree). The word "inference" exist because people draw conclusions based on knowledge or lackthereof. It has nothing to do with being reasonable. In fact, I would think the less knowledge one possesses makes it easier to infer something.

I don't think you are wrong, it's your money. I just think it's a hard line for a hobbyist.

**Dr Bombay** · 04-06-11 20:27

Originally Posted by Justforme [View Original Post]

100. Good TIPS for good service; tesch them customer service until they treat us as well as a therapeutic spa.

Thanks

I gave you the name of a site that does this, Sleaze. I hope you remembered to use it

**Inglewood** · 04-06-11 16:27

To justforme for the pm explaining his response. For us folks outside the DC area please understand that the geography can be confusing. Lots of forums for the same area. RTFF is a nice response for an obvious newbie. But for those of us who have enjoyed the forum for a long time it is an insult. I assume we are here to share info and not all of us are LEO. Again thanks justforme for your explanation and your apology (?) is readily accepted.

**Inglewood** · 04-06-11 16:16

Got to give my thanks to deuceslim for the info! Unlike justforme who just made an assumption that I am LE because I ask for info. I began my post by admitting I didn't even know if it was in the right forum. I am NOT familiar with the area. There are so many forums in the Washington area. If only justforme had read any of my previous posts he would have known that I have been frequenting AMPs throughout the country for several years. Unfortunately he chose to give me a simple RTFF. Again thanks deuce!

**MoonView** · 04-06-11 15:33

Been awhile since I've been there so thought I give it a try as I've been hesitant to since the old crew got cleaned out and the bad reports started to mount.

Well boys & girls, things haven't gotten much better I think but as always YMMV.

MnV

**Justforme** · 04-06-11 15:31

100. Good TIPS for good service; tesch them customer service until they treat us as well as a therapeutic spa.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.

The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.

Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.

If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?

I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.

**Bunker Buster** · 04-06-11 13:25

Originally Posted by Dr Bombay [View Original Post]

Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?

"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.

The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.

Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.

If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?

I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.

**DeuceSlim** · 04-05-11 22:45

Originally Posted by Inglewood [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

You've got Forest Creek located at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive in Reston, and Private Day at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd in Chantilly.

Those are two of the best AMPs in the area, without a doubt.

**Justforme** · 04-05-11 20:00

What I will recommend is Backpage and Craiglist, event the other cops use then!

Originally Posted by Inglewood [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

**Inglewood** · 04-05-11 18:47

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

**Loader401** · 04-05-11 18:46

So I had a few moments to spare. I drove to the intersection of Braddock and Backlick. I paused and for some reason I didn't try the newly opened Peach, I went towards my old Nemesis NSP. Last couple of times I went I swore I wouldn't go back. Back times, upselling, pushy service were all contributing factors. Soooooo when I started heading towards the AMP, I was hitting myself in the head. When I rang the doorbell, a pretty MMS answered and pointed upstairs without saying a word. Kinda wierd. Anyways, as I got to the top she was right behing me and I asked to use the restroom. She said sure and I automatically went towards the bathroom. She watched me as I went in and when I came out, she mentioned that I knew exactly where the bathroom was and asked me if I have been there before. I replied yes, with a sad face when I told her it has been awhile and the last time 2 times I was here I had some bad experiances. She asked who I saw and I mentioned Sunny / Sony and she gave me the "oh. I know." face. She became very friendly and lead me to my room. Here is where the odd thing occured. She asks me what I want and I said the hour would be fine. She says no, only half hour. I said reluctantly said ok since the TS is one of the best parts. She turns to walk out and stops. She looks at me and asks do I want the TS. I said of course and she slapped my arm with a grin and said ok. She leaves and I undress waiting for my provider and then the knock came. MMS opens the door with a different outfit! So I get a TS with a 1/2 hour session. All in all, I got a great session. Fun was had by all. Sorry for the vagueness but I'm trying to keep the open board a little bit less detailed. Members, all you got to do is PM me and I will tell you about the services (extra*) and the appointment antics. Like I said, it was fun and strange. I would return and see that pretty MMS. Why not right?

80 hr.

60 hr.

Extras standard fare

**Dr Bombay** · 04-04-11 21:06

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

I'd agree with Mastabuck. It is common practice to guide her hand towards places that need attention, and many masseuses wait for the client to do this so they can't be accused of illegality.

If you get a massage at a therapeutic place, then a tip is in order. M&M advertises with pictures of young, beautiful Asian girls and claims to "provide unique customer service that will leave you with a fantastic smile." They're clearly implying something better than a therapeutic massage, and if they don't live up to their own hype of what they "provide," then no tip is in order.

Giving tips for less than reasonably expected makes one a sucker, and there are more than enough places playing us for suckers.

"No means no?" Come on, there's a big difference between trying to guide someone's hand for a few seconds and forcing yourself on her, and quoting feminist slogans doesn't enhance the discussion.

Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?

**WebDog** · 04-04-11 20:11

RE: MWC is rip off

Originally Posted by Scorpion King [View Original Post]

Worst experience. Been there before and decided to give it another try. Tried someone new who used to work at a diff "fruitful" place. TS was good and that was all about it. Bad massage, she was sweating and turned off the fan and took time to cool herself off. On the flip, standard NOVA (nothing extra ordinary). I've seen much younger providers (in garden) who are much much more fun.

Total rip off. Won't repeat.

That's too bad. My worst experience at MWC is still better than the best I have had elsewhere in NOVA.

My ATF there is still 'on vacation'. I talked to a girl today about a lot of stuff, including trying to get some G2 on Cindy (my ATF) and could only get that 'she is taking a break for a while. ' Doesn't sound good, which is too bad as Cindy is the sweetest provider I have ever encountered (in 12-15 years of AMP experience.)

Today I saw Connie. She has been there 4 weeks, and came down from Rhode Island. Which means she is used to providing full service (which she confirmed today with a giggle, but we didn't get to that point.) She is older than Cindy and has obviously had a child (Cindy has not, and has an amazingly tight body was large natural boobs.)

Connie was a lot of fun. Last week I saw another provider (in lieu of Cindy, mamasan first told me then she was 'on vacation') who was shorter, older, and relatively sexy and playful but not as attractive and classy as Connie.

If you can go and treat her right, I would definitely recommend Connie. She did say that she does *not* like NOVA customers compared to RI customers, so I could see where she may initially seem to have a chip on her shoulder. She was a little too demure and disinterested until we started talking about stuff and playing around.

The massage was pretty decent, better than last week and on par with Cindy.

There is one other provider I saw there only once. I asked Mamasan for Cindy and she said "she no here, I have very naughty girl for you" and how right she was! I can't recall her name, but she had a very hot, slutty look. Like a hot Asian streetwalker depicted on TV (I have never seen a female ASW in real life)