Massage Parlor Reports

**Inglewood** · 04-06-11 16:16

Got to give my thanks to deuceslim for the info! Unlike justforme who just made an assumption that I am LE because I ask for info. I began my post by admitting I didn't even know if it was in the right forum. I am NOT familiar with the area. There are so many forums in the Washington area. If only justforme had read any of my previous posts he would have known that I have been frequenting AMPs throughout the country for several years. Unfortunately he chose to give me a simple RTFF. Again thanks deuce!

**MoonView** · 04-06-11 15:33

Been awhile since I've been there so thought I give it a try as I've been hesitant to since the old crew got cleaned out and the bad reports started to mount.

Well boys & girls, things haven't gotten much better I think but as always YMMV.

MnV

**Justforme** · 04-06-11 15:31

100. Good TIPS for good service; tesch them customer service until they treat us as well as a therapeutic spa.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.

The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.

Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.

If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?

I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.

**Bunker Buster** · 04-06-11 13:25

Originally Posted by Dr Bombay [View Original Post]

Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?

"No means no" is one of their standard slogans.

The argument that a customer is obligated to pay an employee extra money on the grounds that her employer keeps the fee is a fallacy. First, how do you know that the house keeps most of the money? Second, if the house isn't paying her a fair wage for her work, she's free to leave. Third, there are laws that prohibit employers from making employees work for free. In the massage business, I'd think an owner would be very careful not to upset his employees, and find himself accused of human trafficking.

Finally, he paid 60 for a half hour, which is 20 more than a professional massage at a therapeutic spa. Her 20 "tip" for the massage was already included in the 60.

If a hotel garage charges you $30 to park your car for two hours, and the valet doesn't even bother to hold the door open for you, and he moved your seat and changed the radio station, would you give him a big tip anyway because the hotel keeps most of the parking fee?

I'm not sure why you're so fixated on what I infer. The word "inference" exists because it's fair for reasonable people to draw inferences from others based on how they act and what they say.

**DeuceSlim** · 04-05-11 22:45

Originally Posted by Inglewood [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

You've got Forest Creek located at 12000 Bowman Towne Drive in Reston, and Private Day at 4900 Stonecroft Blvd in Chantilly.

Those are two of the best AMPs in the area, without a doubt.

**Justforme** · 04-05-11 20:00

What I will recommend is Backpage and Craiglist, event the other cops use then!

Originally Posted by Inglewood [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

**Inglewood** · 04-05-11 18:47

Sorry if this is in the wrong place. I will be staying in the Herndon (Dulles) area in a couple weeks. Can anyone provide me with names of any AMPs in the area? Thanks in advance.

**Loader401** · 04-05-11 18:46

So I had a few moments to spare. I drove to the intersection of Braddock and Backlick. I paused and for some reason I didn't try the newly opened Peach, I went towards my old Nemesis NSP. Last couple of times I went I swore I wouldn't go back. Back times, upselling, pushy service were all contributing factors. Soooooo when I started heading towards the AMP, I was hitting myself in the head. When I rang the doorbell, a pretty MMS answered and pointed upstairs without saying a word. Kinda wierd. Anyways, as I got to the top she was right behing me and I asked to use the restroom. She said sure and I automatically went towards the bathroom. She watched me as I went in and when I came out, she mentioned that I knew exactly where the bathroom was and asked me if I have been there before. I replied yes, with a sad face when I told her it has been awhile and the last time 2 times I was here I had some bad experiances. She asked who I saw and I mentioned Sunny / Sony and she gave me the "oh. I know." face. She became very friendly and lead me to my room. Here is where the odd thing occured. She asks me what I want and I said the hour would be fine. She says no, only half hour. I said reluctantly said ok since the TS is one of the best parts. She turns to walk out and stops. She looks at me and asks do I want the TS. I said of course and she slapped my arm with a grin and said ok. She leaves and I undress waiting for my provider and then the knock came. MMS opens the door with a different outfit! So I get a TS with a 1/2 hour session. All in all, I got a great session. Fun was had by all. Sorry for the vagueness but I'm trying to keep the open board a little bit less detailed. Members, all you got to do is PM me and I will tell you about the services (extra*) and the appointment antics. Like I said, it was fun and strange. I would return and see that pretty MMS. Why not right?

80 hr.

60 hr.

Extras standard fare

**Dr Bombay** · 04-04-11 21:06

Originally Posted by Bunker Buster [View Original Post]

I'd agree with Mastabuck. It is common practice to guide her hand towards places that need attention, and many masseuses wait for the client to do this so they can't be accused of illegality.

If you get a massage at a therapeutic place, then a tip is in order. M&M advertises with pictures of young, beautiful Asian girls and claims to "provide unique customer service that will leave you with a fantastic smile." They're clearly implying something better than a therapeutic massage, and if they don't live up to their own hype of what they "provide," then no tip is in order.

Giving tips for less than reasonably expected makes one a sucker, and there are more than enough places playing us for suckers.

"No means no?" Come on, there's a big difference between trying to guide someone's hand for a few seconds and forcing yourself on her, and quoting feminist slogans doesn't enhance the discussion.

Was that feminist? I was trying for an Occam's Razor statement, maybe you just inferred it that way. Maybe we didn't read the same posts. I read grabbed-twice stated, you inferred it meant guide. You seem to infer a lot of stuff. Reading the CL ads must make you positively giddy. Anyway, my point was about anyone in the service industries. I've had good endings, bad endings and indifferent do-it-yourself endings, but the only time I can think of no ending is because of a warning, cops hanging around the area too much or something out of the ordinary happened making it necessary to lay low for a few days. Since the house gets most of the money, she is basically working for free. That's why I thought a few dollars as a tip is better than none at all. After all, it's not often you get a good massage at these places. Did he say he paid 80 for a half hour?

**WebDog** · 04-04-11 20:11

RE: MWC is rip off

Originally Posted by Scorpion King [View Original Post]

Worst experience. Been there before and decided to give it another try. Tried someone new who used to work at a diff "fruitful" place. TS was good and that was all about it. Bad massage, she was sweating and turned off the fan and took time to cool herself off. On the flip, standard NOVA (nothing extra ordinary). I've seen much younger providers (in garden) who are much much more fun.

Total rip off. Won't repeat.

That's too bad. My worst experience at MWC is still better than the best I have had elsewhere in NOVA.

My ATF there is still 'on vacation'. I talked to a girl today about a lot of stuff, including trying to get some G2 on Cindy (my ATF) and could only get that 'she is taking a break for a while. ' Doesn't sound good, which is too bad as Cindy is the sweetest provider I have ever encountered (in 12-15 years of AMP experience.)

Today I saw Connie. She has been there 4 weeks, and came down from Rhode Island. Which means she is used to providing full service (which she confirmed today with a giggle, but we didn't get to that point.) She is older than Cindy and has obviously had a child (Cindy has not, and has an amazingly tight body was large natural boobs.)

Connie was a lot of fun. Last week I saw another provider (in lieu of Cindy, mamasan first told me then she was 'on vacation') who was shorter, older, and relatively sexy and playful but not as attractive and classy as Connie.

If you can go and treat her right, I would definitely recommend Connie. She did say that she does *not* like NOVA customers compared to RI customers, so I could see where she may initially seem to have a chip on her shoulder. She was a little too demure and disinterested until we started talking about stuff and playing around.

The massage was pretty decent, better than last week and on par with Cindy.

There is one other provider I saw there only once. I asked Mamasan for Cindy and she said "she no here, I have very naughty girl for you" and how right she was! I can't recall her name, but she had a very hot, slutty look. Like a hot Asian streetwalker depicted on TV (I have never seen a female ASW in real life)

**Oppen** · 04-04-11 17:22

WBC: interesting experience with Joy (said she used to be called Toy). She's here from Seoul via Hawaii.

In some respects she was one of the better providers I've seen, in others she was average and somewhat lazy. Joy looks to be in her mid to late 20s and has see's on a petite body.

On to the narrative: I was greeted by the MMS at the second door; large woman. 40's or 50's, very friendly and engaging. She sent in Joy, who was also friendly. Slightly wavy dark hair, with a few subtle blond highlights. Very beautiful, expressive eyes and eyebrows and a nice smile. Slightly raspy smokers voice, which is sexy. She strikes me as someone who wants to be friendly. I say this because in an unguarded moment when we turned a corner and saw another girl (Yoyo?) leaving by a side door, her face lit up and she called out to her. Told me that she was a very nice girl. In short, she's not one of those glum, monosylabic providers.

Once we got to the TS she was a bit more clinical. Not rushed, but not as fun as these can sometimes be. She then took me to the very nice sauna, set the temp, and left for a few minutes. She pleasantly surprised me when she returned by getting in the sauna with me and putting her legs in my lap. We had a little chat while I massaged her. On the way back to the room she took me to the wrong one (turns out it was the kitchen) and we both laughed at that. The massage was on the light side, some nice work on my head and neck, the work on my back was ok, I liked when she swept her long hair over it, but she didn't do much on my legs, saying they were muscular and hard to manipulate. I've heard this comment from other girls, but they have gone on and given it a good try. So there's an example of her coasting on her looks and personality.

On the flip she stripped to her panties and straddled me and gave a nice light touch. Full roaming. She has a perfect top and soft, tan skin. After the main event we cuddled and hugged.

Far East: This session with Su Li rivaled those with with YoYo.

I was surprised when she walked in the room, I hadn't expected to see someone of her youth and beauty. Lools to be in her mid to late 20s, be cup, hair to mid-back. But what was really pleasing was her diligence in all aspects of the service. The TS was very thorough, not just the shower itself, but even in drying me off. This attitude carried over to the massage, which was long and very detailed. She put everything she had into it. At one point she had to pause briefly, wipe the sweat from her forehead and do a few stretches. Then she plunged right back into it. The backwalking was great and she ended up working over every part of my body.

I'm starting to sound like a broken record, but she was great after the flip too. She was very gentle, which led to a nice long build up. Her voice lowered to a whisper as things progressed, which was very erotic.

A very nice experience. I will repeat.

**Bunker Buster** · 04-04-11 14:08

Originally Posted by Dr Bombay [View Original Post]

You don't know me or what I'm thinking. It's not a common gesture to grab a hand when it's not offered. A good massage for half an hour is worth 10-fifteen bucks. I won't speculate on why she didn't, but needless to say, no means no and she didn't deserve to get stiffed. It happened to me once and I was surprised, but I certainly didn't get angry. I tipped, crossed the place off my list for awhile, never had a problem when I returned. It's all part of the game.

I'd agree with Mastabuck. It is common practice to guide her hand towards places that need attention, and many masseuses wait for the client to do this so they can't be accused of illegality.

If you get a massage at a therapeutic place, then a tip is in order. M&M advertises with pictures of young, beautiful Asian girls and claims to "provide unique customer service that will leave you with a fantastic smile." They're clearly implying something better than a therapeutic massage, and if they don't live up to their own hype of what they "provide," then no tip is in order.

Giving tips for less than reasonably expected makes one a sucker, and there are more than enough places playing us for suckers.

"No means no?" Come on, there's a big difference between trying to guide someone's hand for a few seconds and forcing yourself on her, and quoting feminist slogans doesn't enhance the discussion.

**Yakblat** · 04-04-11 14:05

Originally Posted by Mastabuck [View Original Post]

Do not go. Feeling adventurous I wanted to try a new AMP. I decided to go to M&M wellness for a half hour session. After the massage ended the messuese gets up and says we are done. When I grab her hand to show her where I want additional attention she starts explaining that they do not do that. I promptly got up, got dressed and left. To top it off, as I was getting dressed she had the nerve to look at me like she wanted a tip. Damage. 6 no tip. For the service I got, or didn't get, I might as well went to a better spa where the providers breath does not smell like kimshe. As a friend who just TOFTT, STAY AWAY!

My experience at M&M was similar, but I got an HE in the end and tipped. 4. It was very confusing. Sounds like there's no need to give them another try. Yak

**Dr Bombay** · 04-04-11 05:10

Originally Posted by Mastabuck [View Original Post]

I didn't tip because I didn't get happy ending service. The message was good. And no I did not grab her like you are thinking, I grabbed her hand, which was near me and tried to point her to where I needed more emphasis. This is a common gesture especially when you are a first time visitor.

You don't know me or what I'm thinking. It's not a common gesture to grab a hand when it's not offered. A good massage for half an hour is worth 10-fifteen bucks. I won't speculate on why she didn't, but needless to say, no means no and she didn't deserve to get stiffed. It happened to me once and I was surprised, but I certainly didn't get angry. I tipped, crossed the place off my list for awhile, never had a problem when I returned. It's all part of the game.

**Max Beelyun** · 04-04-11 01:45

Across from Outback, sort of. I had wanted to go to the FCCC but was not feeling quite myself due to recent injury. So I decided to go with the more passive AMP experience. Arrived at opening time to Chris (Kris?) who didn't know who Mona was (which made me sad). But she gave me a very nice, unrushed, and complete massage, and I felt wonderful afterwards. Saw Joanne arrive as I left but she didn't see me so I said nothing. Chris was very professional and attentive and her technique was standard but exquisite. Tipped 80 because she deserved it. She did not count the money, as her focus was entirely on me, the customer. Will go back if I'm not well enough to go to the FCCC the next time I'm in the mood.