Escort Reports

[Troubadour]

No, I didn't and I don't want to fuck her at all. She is not worth for that money. If you see her in person, you will be disappointed, especially when she took off her cloth.

Yes, Julianna had her motel east madison on hayes st. She is open, but she has many bruises on her back and look bit dirty to me.

I saw her back when she livedbehind the PDQ behind Badger. I rated her as ok at the time but yeah her body took some damage even then. She claimed no FS or very expensive. But I saw lots condoms.

I also agree on the lackluster HJ-he. Iwas happy that I got up and off and out.

[David Peter]

No, I didn't and I don't want to fuck her at all. She is not worth for that money. If you see her in person, you will be disappointed, especially when she took off her cloth.

Yes, Julianna had her motel east madison on hayes st. She is open, but she has many bruises on her back and look bit dirty to me.

David Peter, did you take the fucking to her? I always heard she wasn't FS unless you wanted to shell out 300+. Onna was the same story. Way way too high for these wannabe providers.

Did Julianna already have a motel room, or did she meet you in the parking lot to get part of the fee from you to pay for it? That's what Onna does and was wondering if Julianna used the same scheme.

I know Julianna and her friend Onna both have popped a few kids and both have baby damage as a result, quite considerable baby damage. Onna has had twins and they really took their toll. Both like black cock.

[Permanent Wood]

David Peter, did you take the fucking to her? I always heard she wasn't FS unless you wanted to shell out 300+. Onna was the same story. Way way too high for these wannabe providers.

Did Julianna already have a motel room, or did she meet you in the parking lot to get part of the fee from you to pay for it? That's what Onna does and was wondering if Julianna used the same scheme.

I know Julianna and her friend Onna both have popped a few kids and both have baby damage as a result, quite considerable baby damage. Onna has had twins and they really took their toll. Both like black cock.

[David Peter]

http://madison.backpage.com/BodyRubs...follow/3416448

She lived in inn at south Madison. Her pictures are more beautiful than her actual look. Her face is ok. Her body is below average. There are many bruises on her shoulder and her back. It turns me off. She is open, and willing to do what you ask her to do. But in my opinion, she is kinda ghetto and nasty though.

The massage is ridiculous. She didn't know how to massage or rub down at all. Waste of time. I don't say she is a ripoff, but I never come back to her.

You might try her, but I think you will be disappointed. With that kind of money, I would definitely go to Claudia who is much much more better than this girl.

[Golfcart]

Thanks. I only use backpage and google. I haven't tried paid reviews websites because I am afraid of giving my credit numbers to these webs.

It is hard to figure out whether online women are real and stick with what they advertises until you actually meet them in person. The funny thing is once you set up an appointment, it is hard to withdraw when you arrive at their places. If I don't like a girl, I usually pay 20$ to her waiting time and say she is not the one I looking for and quickly leave before any troubles may happen. Sometimes these bitches (fake pictures) yell and curse at you when you withdraw but it is a part of the game.

There's a guy in Indianapolis who shows the money but never forks it over until the end. He stands his ground and gets his way. He claims it works. But he's never met the girl you met, the one with the pimp who had the gun.

[David Peter]

http://madison.backpage.com/FemaleEs...tte-26/2664702

This girl is cute, clean, nice and very easy. Her skin is soft. Her body is average. Her attitude is excellent, especially you can shoot on her cute face. She is GFE. First time, she charges 130$/hh and 180$/h, but next time it is only 100$/hh. She rent a nice room at Canyon Grand, West Madison. I recommend her to you guys. Please let me know if you can pay cheaper than $100 for hh.

Also,

Does anyone have a massage with this girl, Julianna ?

http://madison.backpage.com/BodyRubs...follow/3416448

Does she give a HE?

Do you know any girl give a good massage with HE (beside Tara on state st)?

[Tencan]

It sucks taking on for the team, but you have to do your homework and check up on girls. I very rarely see a "new" girl unless I can fond some info. The girls do post BS reviews of themselves, but that is usually obvious. I have never gotten a girl to give me moeny back after the "service", but I have before it started. I have asked fo rmy money back several times at the rockford and belvedere jack shacks when the start the upcharging crap. If you get a bad vibe in the begginning of the session just pick up your money and walk out. And post the names and numbers of the girls who pull this crap so they will lose business and stop doing it.


The bad part of making a scene with a provider is that the john has a lot more to lose then the hooker. Never use your personal phone to talk to them. always get a prepaid phone that does not require an credit card and monthly bills. Also your wife and girl friend cannot see what calls you are making on the phone bill !!

I would like to share my experience about seriously ask for my money back.

About 2 years ago, I called a lady on BP. Arrived at her apartment. I paid $250 for 1 hour FS because she is beautiful and her place is clean and nice. I thought it was my lucky day. She told me to take a shower on my own. After that, she gave me a lame massage and a BJ. It was only 15 minute. I didn't even fuck her yet, and she said time's up. She bullshit that my shower time was included. I politely asked her to give half of my money back and complained that she didn't do what we agreed before. She pushed an alarm button on the wall, and her pimp suddenly appeared with a gun and threaten me out of the apartment. It was a scared moment though. I thought about calling police to arrest her pimp, but I didn't call in the end.

Another time is I have a massage with a late 20s lady. I paid 80$ up front for 1 hour massage which it was actually 40 minutes. Before the massage, she told me I will have a HE at the end. The critical point is that she asked 120$ more for HJ only. I said it is way too much. I offer 60$, but she said 60$ is the money I have to tip her anyway for her massage. It is very unreasonable to me. Because of that attitude, I decided not tip her a penny. And I got into trouble with her boyfriend who was waiting outside the room. I have to tip 40$ to buy my way out. I think 80$ for 40 minutes massage with no extra is a right. Asking for more is like stealing customer's money.

Many other times, I met nice providers and have great times.

[Coochie Eater]

Ok, so I'll tell you the set-up, but if you want to hear the end, you have to PM me.

I know a young provider who just had a baby. Her tits are firm and full of milk. I stop over to her house for a little DATY and to drink from her fountains. A little oral is a great thing to make her milk drop down, becoming available for a thirsty Coochie Eater. I eat her to completion then start chewing on her big rubbery nipples. She slides a rubber on li'l johnny then climbs on cowgirl.

Now I've heard that sex can be interrupted by infants because the mother's milk drips out of the titties and the little fuckers smell it, then start to cry. Well right on cue, the hungry little b1tch starts to wail, just as mom is getting a good rhythm going. (PM for the rest of the experience).

[David Peter]

David, about the three disappointing experiences when you wanted your money back, how did you learn of the women? What research on them was available to you?.

Thanks. I only use backpage and google. I haven't tried paid reviews websites because I am afraid of giving my credit numbers to these webs.

It is hard to figure out whether online women are real and stick with what they advertises until you actually meet them in person. The funny thing is once you set up an appointment, it is hard to withdraw when you arrive at their places. If I don't like a girl, I usually pay 20$ to her waiting time and say she is not the one I looking for and quickly leave before any troubles may happen. Sometimes these bitches (fake pictures) yell and curse at you when you withdraw but it is a part of the game.

[Tencan]

Is she still working dowtown near state st.

[Golfcart]

I would like to share my experience about seriously ask for my money back. ***
Many other times, I met nice providers and have great times.

David, about the three disappointing experiences when you wanted your money back, how did you learn of the women? What research on them was available to you?

I’m a firm believer we should find our women on sites that have a review side. The reviews keep the woman honest (more honest) on their looks, pics, menu, attitude, performance, donation, the whole ball of wax. Not that it is perfect but things are so much more trustworthy.

Most often the women on sites with a review component list websites, email addys and phones. This information can be googled to find advertising elsewhere. Often times this turns up other profiles showing a second site, another email addy or phone. This is not necessarily bad because a girl may be based in Chicago with one identity and use a second identity when she tours, or she may be based in a lower market and use a second identity when she tours a higher market. The point of knowing other URL’s, emails and phones is it opens up additional google searches. Collectively this makes for a pretty good search engine and makes our circle of prospects much more reliable.

Naturally, we should run the pics through tineye.com.

Nothing is perfect but this is so much better than merely finding a woman on BP based upon the hotness of the pics. This approach is a formula for disaster.

The advertising side of USASG should be use in connection with the review side.

[Troubadour]

I can't think of any real good experiences that started with someone demanding all of the $$$ up front. In fact, you can usually tell by the attitude right there how it will go. Maybe once or twice it still ended well, but not that I can think of usually setting the $$ out is enough.

Good topics..definitely what this board is all about. Seems to be a couple of different issues at play. One is whether or not to pay up front and then what to do if short-changed on service and/time.

I've clearly been lucky because I can only remember one time where the woman mentioned/asked for the money up-front. Probably not a coincidence that it was my worst experience in the hobby. Otherwise, I've either laid an envelope in plain sight prior to or after the session (at least 75% of the time) and never had anyone count it in front of me. Again, my experience doesn't seem to be the norm for whatever reason.

With my bad experience, I at least got the expected service but it was one and done and was expected to leave even though I was only 20 minutes into what was supposed to be an hour. I just didn't see the point of arguing with her about it. It wouldn't have been an enjoyable second round or else I'm asking for money back. Personally, it's not worth the risk of somebody coming out to kick my ass or even for the woman to freak out and have the whole thing escalate. It sucks but it's a risk we run in this hobby. My recourse is to not see her again and put up a negative review for others to see.

If a woman consistently provides sub-par service or is blantantly ripping people off, it's going to hit the local boards and their business has to suffer somewhat. Though we all know if she's hot enough, guys will keep giving her a chance thinking it won't happen to them.

[David Peter]

I would like to share my experience about seriously ask for my money back.

About 2 years ago, I called a lady on BP. Arrived at her apartment. I paid $250 for 1 hour FS because she is beautiful and her place is clean and nice. I thought it was my lucky day. She told me to take a shower on my own. After that, she gave me a lame massage and a BJ. It was only 15 minute. I didn't even fuck her yet, and she said time's up. She bullshit that my shower time was included. I politely asked her to give half of my money back and complained that she didn't do what we agreed before. She pushed an alarm button on the wall, and her pimp suddenly appeared with a gun and threaten me out of the apartment. It was a scared moment though. I thought about calling police to arrest her pimp, but I didn't call in the end.

Another time is I have a massage with a late 20s lady. I paid 80$ up front for 1 hour massage which it was actually 40 minutes. Before the massage, she told me I will have a HE at the end. The critical point is that she asked 120$ more for HJ only. I said it is way too much. I offer 60$, but she said 60$ is the money I have to tip her anyway for her massage. It is very unreasonable to me. Because of that attitude, I decided not tip her a penny. And I got into trouble with her boyfriend who was waiting outside the room. I have to tip 40$ to buy my way out. I think 80$ for 40 minutes massage with no extra is a right. Asking for more is like stealing customer's money.

Many other times, I met nice providers and have great times.

[Madtown11]

Good topics..definitely what this board is all about. Seems to be a couple of different issues at play. One is whether or not to pay up front and then what to do if short-changed on service and/time.

I've clearly been lucky because I can only remember one time where the woman mentioned/asked for the money up-front. Probably not a coincidence that it was my worst experience in the hobby. Otherwise, I've either laid an envelope in plain sight prior to or after the session (at least 75% of the time) and never had anyone count it in front of me. Again, my experience doesn't seem to be the norm for whatever reason.

With my bad experience, I at least got the expected service but it was one and done and was expected to leave even though I was only 20 minutes into what was supposed to be an hour. I just didn't see the point of arguing with her about it. It wouldn't have been an enjoyable second round or else I'm asking for money back. Personally, it's not worth the risk of somebody coming out to kick my ass or even for the woman to freak out and have the whole thing escalate. It sucks but it's a risk we run in this hobby. My recourse is to not see her again and put up a negative review for others to see.

If a woman consistently provides sub-par service or is blantantly ripping people off, it's going to hit the local boards and their business has to suffer somewhat. Though we all know if she's hot enough, guys will keep giving her a chance thinking it won't happen to them.

[Golfcart]

Someone has to enforce the contract, and it sure as hell is not going to be the hoe.

Sure, you can roll over and leave, but you'll be out your hard earned money and still be angry and you will have done nothing but empower the hoe to repeat the same B.S. with someone else.

Or, you can enforce the contract and either finish out the deal or get at least some of your money back.

Don't let these cu*nts walk all over you, and let the ones who have negative reports from reliable sources go dumpster diving, trying her out yourself will more than likely be a waste. A girl could make a pretty good living just being "tried out" by guys who don't listen.

The problem with standing our ground when the woman takes the donation and won't perform is the strategy must have legs, meaning it must work everytime, 9 times out of 10 is no good. That 10th time Bruiser will come through the door, we'll lose our front teeth, or worse, and still not get our money back.

Here is David Peter's post I was addressing below when I told him he did the right thing getting the Hades out of there:

http://madison.backpage.com/FemaleEs...nce-19/3367972

Kelli is a cheater. *** When I entered her room, I paid 175$ for 30 minutes. This girl is a cheater. She didn't give me a BJ. No kissing. I just played with her for 5 minutes and she immediately told me that I only have 10 minutes left and hurry. She just laid there and didn't do anything. What's a bad attitude ! After 10 minutes, she said her time is over and wear her cloths on. *** I told her that it is only 10 minutes and I haven't cum yet. *** She threaten me that her guy is dangerous, so don't mess with her. She told me I have 2 minutes to wear my cloth and leave. I am very angry that this ***** didn't do her job and threaten me. It's fine. I don't want any trouble. I left and felt very angry.

This business has a dangerous side. When something like this happens we have crossed over to the dangerous side and we need to recognize the true situation.

Our choice is (1) stand our ground and get all/some of our money back 9 times out of 10 with Bruiser beating the crap out of us the 10th time, or (2) getting the Hades out of there all 10 times with no marks.

If we know she's 5'0" with no confederates we have some power. But we don't know that. Odds are this is her SOP and she will have Bruiser close by.

I read a post the other day in Louisville. The guy let a SW take him to her "safe house." He ended up using his key-chain mace to avoid being robbed by her confederate. Two weeks later in another post the same guy reported using the mace again at another, you guessed it, "safe house." Now there's a guy who will not be pushed around. But one day he will walk into the wrong situation and end up getting hurt because he refused to walk out. It simply isn't worth it.

FWIW I agree with the observations of others who show the money up front or pay a down payment up front. Good for them. But here I'm talking about what to do when we fork over a 30/60 minute donation for FS and after listening to 10 minutes of rules or playing only 10 minutes she says, "Time's up."