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**PokerBrah** · 06-08-25 17:02

Originally Posted by AlmostVirgin [View Original Post]

Renge was also FKA as Lillie PPC.

IU - https://nyangelspa.com/view/21562

WTF kind of name is that. Looks like it could be Miu Akemi PPC rebranded.

IU is a famous Korean singer who's pretty fucking hot and cute.

(in case you had no idea).

**Almost Virgin** · 06-08-25 15:26

Originally Posted by VidLover69 [View Original Post]

I think she was originally Miku at RS. If I am right, this girl bounces around AMPs way too much.

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

It is her. Miku RS.

Started off with PPC at 500 HR rate, likely didn't get the dick volume she wanted, bounced around in NYC a bit at new price point 400 HR, then apparently went to up MD and probably still didn't get the volume she was looking for and came back down to NYC again:

Ai - https://firefoxclub.com/view/21480.

**PokerBrah** · 06-08-25 15:15

Originally Posted by VidLover69 [View Original Post]

I think she was originally Miku at RS. If I am right, this girl bounces around AMPs way too much.

It is her. Miku RS.

**VidLover69** · 06-08-25 14:55

Originally Posted by AlmostVirgin [View Original Post]

IU - https://nyangelspa.com/view/21562

WTF kind of name is that. Looks like it could be Miu Akemi PPC rebranded.

I think she was originally Miku at RS. If I am right, this girl bounces around AMPs way too much.

**JediNY** · 06-08-25 14:51

Originally Posted by AlmostVirgin [View Original Post]

Renge was also FKA as Lillie PPC.

IU - https://nyangelspa.com/view/21562

WTF kind of name is that. Looks like it could be Miu Akemi PPC rebranded.

IU is the stage name of a hugely popular South Korean singer, songwriter and actress.

**Almost Virgin** · 06-08-25 13:58

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Renge MK https://misskyoto.com/club/ - She's was at 1010 then DC. Only listing because of her weird name ("Lotus Flower").

Renge was also FKA as Lillie PPC.

IU - https://nyangelspa.com/view/21562

WTF kind of name is that. Looks like it could be Miu Akemi PPC rebranded.

**PokerBrah** · 06-08-25 13:21

I love you. This is diff than the Japanese girl's I love you.

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Yura MK https://misskyoto.com/club/ - She's a KGirl. Only listing because she's supposed to be tall at 5'7.

Renge MK https://misskyoto.com/club/ - She's was at 1010 then DC. Only listing because of her weird name ("Lotus Flower").

Zoe PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/zoe - She picked the wrong store. Erin, Bunny, Kanami, and Yuma will take all her lunch money.

Shuri NYSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/21571 - price increase to $380/ hr.

Aria MLE https://myluxeescape.com/content/ - price decrease to $360/ hr.

**DrunkenKid** · 06-08-25 11:34

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Erin PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/erin - 3rd trip! Few heavy hitters in PPC. Erin, Bunny. Juria status unknown.
Hinata MK https://misskyoto.com/ - looks hot!
Kaya 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/21556 - newbie. Christmas outfit? Seriously need some new pics.
Few other girls moved around. Don't care.

Yura MK https://misskyoto.com/club/ - She's a KGirl. Only listing because she's supposed to be tall at 5'7.

Renge MK https://misskyoto.com/club/ - She's was at 1010 then DC. Only listing because of her weird name ("Lotus Flower").

Zoe PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/zoe - She picked the wrong store. Erin, Bunny, Kanami, and Yuma will take all her lunch money.

Shuri NYSE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/21571 - price increase to $380/ hr.

Aria MLE https://myluxeescape.com/content/ - price decrease to $360/ hr.

**Almost Virgin** · 06-08-25 10:53

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Broski, you jumped the gun with your elaborate plan.

BTW: The girls are not chained to radiators. They can go out anytime they want. My friend Chad tells me that he's seen them for breakfast, for lunch, and for dinner. He also said that 2 to 3 hour blocks is best unless you have seen them outside multiple times already.

Dang, maybe you're right it was too elaborate a plan. I approached it that way because she said she never left the shop on her own. First time in America and scared of everything and all that. She revealed that the one time she did get out was fully chaperoned by MMS. Ordered Uber Eats to the shop everyday and did not get to see anything in NYC basically.

I thought laying everything out in an itinerary would ease that anxiety. We will see if it actually happens on the return trip or it was just letting me down softly.

**DrunkenKid** · 06-08-25 10:29

Originally Posted by AlmostVirgin [View Original Post]

I think the flake already happened since I made that post LOL. It seems the shop's pimp hand is too strong and she's scared to defy their schedule and take off early. So now she wants to keep in touch and let me know when she's back for next tour and do the day out before she starts at the shop. Or maybe it's just a plausible excuse.

C2. The itinerary I proposed would have taken it to C7. Leave shop early into a NYC tour into a dinner into a hotel for the night and then taking her to the airport for her flight home the next morning.

Broski, you jumped the gun with your elaborate plan.

BTW: The girls are not chained to radiators. They can go out anytime they want. My friend Chad tells me that he's seen them for breakfast, for lunch, and for dinner. He also said that 2 to 3 hour blocks is best unless you have seen them outside multiple times already.

**DrunkenKid** · 06-08-25 08:15

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKnsEC7Ajik

**PokerBrah** · 06-08-25 08:02

This below, this is perhaps the best mix.

Girl has rich guys who will give them the expensive stuff while they will come to you for whatever reasons and give you everything the other guys wanted (and probably gets) but her materialistic instincts have been satisfied so all she wants is you. LOL!

A lot of girls show their gifts to me, $1500-$3000 or more kind of gifts. Sometimes cash. I just smiled and congrats on their whales, I don't compete, there is always another girl out there for you if you hit a material girl.

While they don't ask you for gifts, it's still not free. I would occasionally buy shit but it's stuff they need, recharge a phone plan? Buy them new shoes (heels or sneaks whatever), always food of course. It does add up, it's could be a sugar baby allowance. Let's just for argument sake say you're sending them food because they want diff eats. They have money to buy it, they just wanted to be taken cared of by you, but not a simp kind of taking care of them with new designer shit.

$50 a day (say $25 per meai average), that's $1500 a month.

On average, it's still cheap if you can fuck her a lot. This is around 6 pussies (CIP costs not included) or 4-5 if you go for the hour.

So you do the math, if you can fuck her more than 5 times, you're at break even, if you can fuck her 10 times, you're way ahead, sounds good? But do you want to fuck the same girl 10+ times??

Try 20 times, the amount of new pussies you are missing out is A LOT and it will eat at you as well if you're a horn dog -- I mean isn't that why you started fucking some of these girls in the first place because you want something new with variety? LOL.

I friend-zoned a few girls because I just enjoy taking them out for the day and I would cut the time, if you do all day, you got to be on your game all day. If it gets to a dull time, and she loses that exciting feeling or you run out of shit do, it's going to be awkward. Better to just have other plans and leave it on a high note or it will get to be routine.

I've had to make excuses so I don't have to fuck certain girls so often so I can fuck new ones.

Oh there will be girls who just want you to hang out, not fuck, don't get sour and get disappointed. It happens lol.

but I do enjoy taking the girl out, in my arms, at some meal, at some park or just random affections kiss, hug, more make out randomly. I don't need to always fuck them, I fuck enough that I am not itchy all day waiting for my chance to fuck them, you will annoy yourself if you do this and no have a good time and enjoy the moment.

Originally Posted by DownloadX [View Original Post]

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By the way, I am so grateful to rich simps for buying her very expensive nice things and for the romantic boyfriends for filling these girl's hearts with genuine love. They do what I can't for them. Don't be jealous of them is what I'm saying. If you are a generous person with time, you can be a nice uncle. To do this, you actually have to want to be her tour guide, uber, friend. If that's not what you want, then do something else. It is not for very many guys, make your plan align with your goals and hers.

**Almost Virgin** · 06-08-25 07:09

Thanks for the homework, all.

Originally Posted by VidLover69 [View Original Post]

"day out UTR" sounds like you have to be her NYC tour guide and sugar daddy for a whole day. That "free BBFS" better be worth it.

It's basically this but a chunk of the itinerary has exploring museums / Central Park so it shouldn't hit the wallet hard. I did get free video at the shop already though.

Originally Posted by DownloadX [View Original Post]

Those are the three roles I see work out. I believe all misunderstanding comes from trying to jump between those three roles. To summarize: a) a rich guy buys a girl things and that's why she's with him, she finds him profitable b) a romantic boyfriend gives her the boyfriend she wanted, she finds him attractive c) a nice uncle shows her how a gentleman should treat her, so she gains life experience and will only pick a good man in her future. Don't mix them, it doesn't work.

Heard!

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

9. Do expect her to flake out on you.

I think the flake already happened since I made that post LOL. It seems the shop's pimp hand is too strong and she's scared to defy their schedule and take off early. So now she wants to keep in touch and let me know when she's back for next tour and do the day out before she starts at the shop. Or maybe it's just a plausible excuse.

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Tell us which level you reach. I think the levels require some re-arranging. Looks like a C2 soon.

C2. The itinerary I proposed would have taken it to C7. Leave shop early into a NYC tour into a dinner into a hotel for the night and then taking her to the airport for her flight home the next morning.

**Download X** · 06-08-25 03:14

Originally Posted by Almost Virgin [View Original Post]

I got a LINE more recently and have a real name for the first time though. Somehow also converted that into a commitment for a day out UTR on my first try too. Channeled the inner chad for that. The batting average can only do downhill from here.

The most important is not to get carried away and go too deep. Don't make promises, keep it fun and shorter than you'd like.

As PB once wrote some of these girls haven't been in love before. It is not often for this to be the angle, but if you are going to be the romantic boyfriend, that has worked out but it won't be about money. I have actually seen girls ask such a guy not to spend money on them - even buy that guy small stuff - knowing the guy is young and handsome but in need of money personally. That girl's motivation is to have a nice day with a guy she likes for once, so give her one.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7298721 Know the motivation

A full day is quite long. Find out where she likes, or else by default recommend her 1-3 good spots. If the girl wants whole day, I do half day. If she wants half day I do quarter day. Leave her on a high note, it is dating 101. Quality over quantity for a date.

About motivations and being upfront. I took one jgirl out and she turned out to be special, but I told her upfront it would be a halfday of sightseeing. She was so hot it was comical how guys would stare at her with big grins as she walked, like in the movies. But I am just a nice uncle without jealousy, my feelings are secure. All I want is to share one special day with her for us to remember. So she was surprised when after a half day of fun I really told her I was dropping her off. She expected me to extend it. I had no ulterior motives, I just wanted a great memory and to take care of her for once. It was a passionate goodbye since I made her happy and delivered on the promise of a nice day out.

Maybe she is used to rich simps and romantic boyfriends. Those are nice too. Every successful guy is one of the three types imo. Know what you are looking for and communicate.

I would not expect a date and bang on a true UTR day off date. Never got it. I know it is most guys' deepest fantasy but it is not fun to press a girl too hard if she is not willing.

The only time I got a date and bang was when taking a girl out on the clock (this works for certain korg setups), and we got back to the place an hour early. She said to me "We still have time" for more sightseeing but I said, let's get back. Oh she knew what I wanted, and she was on the clock so it is completely different than UTR. She almost blushed and it was a fantasy fulfilled. Of course she is going to bang without hesitation, I had booked her officially for hours after all. This was the only proper way to get a date and bang without any awkward misunderstanding, and it was fantastic after some fun outdoors. Never pressure a girl too hard, it is not the special kind of memory you will treasure anyways. This was.

I have dated girls on her day off, then banged them on a different day. But never mixed the two, hard to not make it weird unless that's what she wanted too. I'm sure it can happen, I'm just saying you can't always fit a girl into your neat plan. I wouldn't expect it even though it's possible. Especially if it is on her one day off, she's not going to want to. Other scenarios are ymmv.

I try to promise nothing and be honest and upfront with communication. Sometimes, we say or do things we may later regret when there are feelings. If you must say someting, make it a maybe rather than a hard promise. Many of us can't help it, but better to keep it tame if you will regret it later.

By the way, I am so grateful to rich simps for buying her very expensive nice things and for the romantic boyfriends for filling these girl's hearts with genuine love. They do what I can't for them. Don't be jealous of them is what I'm saying. If you are a generous person with time, you can be a nice uncle. To do this, you actually have to want to be her tour guide, uber, friend. If that's not what you want, then do something else. It is not for very many guys, make your plan align with your goals and hers.

Those are the three roles I see work out. I believe all misunderstanding comes from trying to jump between those three roles. To summarize: a) a rich guy buys a girl things and that's why she's with him, she finds him profitable b) a romantic boyfriend gives her the boyfriend she wanted, she finds him attractive c) a nice uncle shows her how a gentleman should treat her, so she gains life experience and will only pick a good man in her future. Don't mix them, it doesn't work.

For others who did not see and are interested, I wrote some posts on the topic:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...25#post7296325 We all know the red flags
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...43#post7073943 PSA do not date
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...29#post7141129 You can't trust 80% of girls
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7206827 Keep a date short

I know it's too late for this, but this message is for everyone. Make sure you chose your girl not on looks alone. That she is trustworthy for your feelings and wallet. Don't chase a girl on one-sided feelings. Some people can't resist, so I feel it best to help people with positivity rather than criticize. Many of us have been there. I would not book a hotel, it is probably awkward and disappointing. If you are hoping for free bb, that can happen at the shop rather than date. It's probably easier and cheaper. I have been invited by girls for more but did not want to go in too deep with those girls, I knew it would not work out. I only dated "safe" girls instead. If something feels wrong, it often is.

It is just opinion but when a girl is special I won't name her in public. Also, I've linked to a variety of opinions on this topic. It is mostly kgirl-centric but covers a wide spectrum:

Originally Posted by Download X [View Original Post]

People have a hard time reinventing the wheel as a beginner, but that's what first time can feel like. So I hope you can gain something out of our collective experience and opinions.

**DrunkenKid** · 06-08-25 01:36

Originally Posted by VidLover69 [View Original Post]

LOL. I didn't mean to ruin virgin dude's first outside excursion with a jgirl. I like variety so my perspective is different than yours. Investing so much into a jgirl seems like a lot when I could be using that time to bang other jgirls.

DK, so what other master level tips do you have for our young friend other than don't book a hotel room?

Life is all about the experiences, the variety in my life is to do dumb shit. I've done a lot of dumb shit that I can't talk about LOL.

I think PB and JLover already wrote a primer on what to do when taking a JGirl out of the store.

1. Keep it casual.
2. Be prepared to use the translator when sitting down to eat.
3. Don't plan to spend a lot of money (dont make reservations at spas or fancy restaurants).
4. Don't expect free sex.
5. Don't lend her money.
6. No really. Don't fall for any sob stories about being in debt.
7. Do try to do something that you want to do as well.
8. They all say “I love you”, it doesnt have the same meaning.
9. Do expect her to flake out on you.
10. Don’t let her introduce you to her mom. LULZ.