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[Taliesin92]

Is Ina actually gone for good? I only saw her once and would like to see her again.

Go see Collette in MW. I guarantee you won't be disappointed.

[Download X]

Fair warning, this isn't my post but of another poster here who posts on TER as well. His post over there hasn't it made it here or maybe it has I and I haven't seen it yet. This is from "team_rocket_qwerty".

Yes, this is a problem with TER and especially on any site that does not allow replies. I've known it for over a decade but glad someone has found more proof.

Shilling obviously happens, and you can see it in reviews that clearly or factually don't match the girl. For example describing things a girl definitely doesn't do (ex: anal being the most clear-cut obvious example). I used to see review after review of girls offering anal but they definitely didn't do it, none of them did! The writing style of all the fake reviews was the same, so I knew it was one person writing those particular shill reviews. This was over ten years ago, it has never gone away.

New shills showed up on TER over the years and followed a new pattern. You could see they reviewed girls for multiple cities left and right. TER admin noticed too and clamped down on some of them, at least the ones that were too obvious.

By the way, TER will auto-flag your account if you share it with someone too much, I posted this PSA months ago. Legit mongers were sharing TER accounts to save money and had their accounts permanently deleted for it. You can still see their review, but for example you can't PM them. There is also auto-flagging when one person reviews a girl with multiple accounts, but I won't go into any more detail so that the offenders don't get new ideas. But they already know that much.

In recent years, you can see the shills will criss-cross every agency too. I've read maybe 5K TER reviews, and it becomes super obvious if you read the TER reviews after you've seen a girl. You can see who did or didn't see a girl. Even if I don't agree with a real reviewer's opinion, I enjoy reading their fun anecdotes and appreciate insights I get. They make valid complaints or at least believable complaints. Before seeing a girl, you can only suspect on some of the shill reviews though others are obvious.

For complicated reasons, I never read TER reviews before seeing a HYA, I haven't in 9 months. TER is not useful for a HYA hunter, though it's useful for service hunters. To be clear, if you are a HYA hunter you achieve negative intel after reading TER. You are worse than before you read anything. I've done it more than 10 years before reaching this conclusion. I have documented in great detail how USAG is useful for HYA hunters by identifying reliable HYA reviewers, unlike TER which is worse than nothing due to misinformation (ex: old girls become young on TER without any pushback).

Even honest people will guess age wrong sometimes, we've all done it. But this is what happens if you do it on USAG:

In LA when someone says a MILF is 20s, you get 8 guys calling him out in 2 days:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203978 Honey age estimate

Everyone was very polite about it. Honey is worth seeing and good looking, just not young. Of course, if you post to TER saying Honey is young and does anal, your review gets approved. I don't say that USAG is without shilling or problems, just illustrating an example difference. On USAG the problems are different, and as I said it's at least useful for HYA hunters because there are some things like "young" and "good looking" that you can't exaggerate much without being corrected. So my solution is to focus on each sites' strengths, so that it drowns out some of the problems.

Note that paid shilling works different than regular shilling, where some owner or girl writes a fake review. I know that also happens, but it doesn't happen nearly as much as the paid shill review farm. This is for reasons not worth getting into, it's just very clear from observation. In fact, I have had multiple ATFs strongly complain and protest against an owner's fake positive review, because it described acts they refuse to do or set up expectations they can't meet. For example, one girl doesn't do rimming, another girl doesn't do anal, and so on. Girls have been assaulted by guys expecting something from a review, or roughed up by guys butthurt thinking their ATF was doing anal or rimming for other guys when they got refused. The girls don't care that it's a postive review, they'd literally rather have a negative review than such a dangerous shill review. It gets more ridiculous and dumb, but I'm not going to go into specifics beyond that since the offenders may get ideas by reading this. But certain types of shill reviews help the agency but hurt the girl.

On the other hand, there are definitely girls paying for shill reviews too. This happens more to "fix" a girl's TER. I hope we understand there are also some legit service queens who have hundreds and hundreds of real reviews and don't need this. Whereas some girls have a much higher rate of shilling especially recent reviews.

Some of this I can post proof of, but that would just help the offenders work around it next time. In general terms, girls that I knew weren't working were getting tons of reviews suddenly with wrong basic facts. When they get just a trickle of reviews when they were actually working. This include girls I actually like but know their reviews are wrong. There is karma on these things however, it does not take much work to let people know on TER or USAG if there is a gap in looks or service from prior glowing reviews. That is one solution and tool for us.

I will note that many "wrong" reviews are not even shill or fake reviews. They are just people with different standards than you or I, maybe have poor/inconsistent review skills, or are exaggerating. Sometimes their standards are too low or too high, but that's different and not agains the rules. I'm sure all of us when we started out were ecstatic at one point and would or did write an overly positive review right after seeing a girl, but weeks or several girls later that wears off and we later realize it. Those are still honest reviews, just not accurate. Same thing with the thin vs thick debate, there are guys that will call a normal looking girl fat and another guy that will say an obviously skinny girl is not skinny. They have distorted tastes without realizing it, and to a degree again that's okay. It is just opinion, and I hope we get that those things are worth respectfully disagreeing on without personal attacks. I'm always fine with people saying a girl didn't look good to them or even post things I think are wrong but clearly opinion, but I draw the line when they say I need my eyes checked. My eyes are perfectly fine. Of course when I know a guy well, what they say immediately makes more sense. The best example is jgirl reviews - when there is a series of very positive jgirl reviews (sometimes including myself) I warn everyone that if they don't already like jgirls that our opinions are very biased. My jgirl reviews are for other jgirl lovers, kgirl lovers should be cautious. I'm never exaggerating how much I like the jgirls, but at the same time you should treat my review as-if it were exaggeration if you don't like jgirls. I hope that makes sense.

I've known about the shilling problem for over ten years, so my solution is to use a site where anyone can reply. I posted some photo guides on Isabella just today. Probably a hundred plus people have seen her by now over multiple tours. If anyone thinks the guide is not reasonable, call me out. If you can post a better photo guide, guaranteed I will thank you.

In the same way, I pointed out that I made a meta review of Krissy that was very cautious, and the next 5 reviews were better than my meta review. Some from guys I knew for years, so I knew it wasn't just shilling. I then updated my meta review with them when Krissy when to OC, and more reviews confirmed what the dozens of other reviews already said. Even still I caution and try to lower expectations, that Krissy is not top tier but at 340 bb all-in she is good value, overall good with no major weakness. Just like Jenny, not top tier but an hour of fun that's easy to repeat over and over at 320 bb all-in. By the way, Krissy's pussy was as tight as Lizza every time and after a 15 minute break like magic it is back to tight again. But I did not mention this in my reviews because maybe it won't happen for every guy, that is how cautious I make meta reviews. I have no way of knowing if all other guys experience this since I'm not at the bedside with a clipboard.

These are example tools we have agianst shilling. I do see some inaccurate reviews on USAG, but most of them are simply guys with a different opinion than me, or a bad memory. One problem is if you review a girl many days after seeing her, you make mistakes describing her. I noticed that if I did not journal a girl the same day as seeing her, I could no longer tell whether something as simple as her ad photo was accurate or not. Most people can't. I have had people argue with me over ad photo accuracy (saying a 100% fake ad photo was 100% the girl) when I had proof (I have her real photos from her old ad and in any case it's obvious to me), and I knew these people were legit and definitely saw the girl. My point is simply being wrong or inaccurate is not the same as shilling, and we are all capable of being wrong on a girl. That's different.

The other problem is some girls have drastically changed their appearance or service, sometimes even in a span of a month or two. Multiple girls have gained 15 pounds and gone from super skinny to slightly chubby. I am not about drama and will update their descriptions without fanfare, as long as I know the facts. But the problem goes both ways - a guy who saw her months ago will think I'm wrong, or a guy relying on an old description I wrote will see errors. Hair color change, haircuts, MMs are the most obvious changes, I have specifically mentioned these. One girl went from pure white skin to a dark spray on tan, it's not something I can predict. Jenny changed her make up and hair style, she used to look just like her ad photo with light face filter so it was 90% close, now it is just 80% close so I dropped that descriptor. She still looks good just a different style, though still in that exact outfit last I saw her. Other girls drastically change make up and look completely unrecognizable, I had to check her tattoos to confirm it was really her. Everybody understands this concept but they won't realize it when it happens. They won't know that's the explanation. It hits hard and makes you wonder.

For every problem, there is a solution.

[KGirlSavant]

Fair warning, this isn't my post but of another poster here who posts on TER as well. His post over there hasn't it made it here or maybe it has I and I haven't seen it yet. This is from "team_rocket_qwerty".

So this website has been circulating in small circles but it got shutdown fast probably because of a lot of pii (phone numbers, zelle accounts etc).

I didn't archive. Ph unfortunately but I definitely downloaded the whole structure locally. As it's mostly phone screenshots.

And no it wasnt me who created it, but I'm certainly impressed by the amount of research and snooping. Salute to whoever made this. One of few people who actually pursue scumbags who are looking to profit off mongers.

In short, the site claimed there are two (at least) fake review vendors who sell reviews to exclusively kgirls.

And then showed proof of kgirl (or maybe someone posing as a kgirl) talking to such merchant making a payment and receiving a review in exchange. Then list of ter handles belonging to merchant was attached. And many girls, mostly Vegas and socal area were grouped by the amount of fake reviews. Someone like Chu had 70 to her name. Holy moly.

http://web.archive.org/web/202408270...isereview.net/

This is a snapshot of the fake review merchants pricing and website.

I was surprised the prices are so high and also surprised the kgirls pay for it. And they even have an agency package smfh.

I did check whether it's a hitpiece because I didn't agree with all the handles listed. But most of the handles are correct. Some of the people listed are definitely same person. Many of the handles were indeed banned by ter (don't ask how I know).

Some pics off the website, no pii here at all.

http://imgur.com/a/uZhqNZC

http://imgur.com/a/PsjirUm

http://imgur.com/a/AjNPmH0

Hope whoever made this site can find new hosting fast.

I don't think scumbaggery that is selling reviews in bulk should be tolerated. And oh yeah, let's the hold the buyers (kgirls in this case) accountable too.

Do you have TER usernames of the reviewer(s)? Wow i see Baby Green on there, who would have thought.

[AsianAssEater]

Fair warning, this isn't my post but of another poster here who posts on TER as well. His post over there hasn't it made it here or maybe it has I and I haven't seen it yet. This is from "team_rocket_qwerty".

So this website has been circulating in small circles but it got shutdown fast probably because of a lot of pii (phone numbers, zelle accounts etc).

I didn't archive. Ph unfortunately but I definitely downloaded the whole structure locally. As it's mostly phone screenshots.

And no it wasnt me who created it, but I'm certainly impressed by the amount of research and snooping. Salute to whoever made this. One of few people who actually pursue scumbags who are looking to profit off mongers.

In short, the site claimed there are two (at least) fake review vendors who sell reviews to exclusively kgirls.

And then showed proof of kgirl (or maybe someone posing as a kgirl) talking to such merchant making a payment and receiving a review in exchange. Then list of ter handles belonging to merchant was attached. And many girls, mostly Vegas and socal area were grouped by the amount of fake reviews. Someone like Chu had 70 to her name. Holy moly.

http://web.archive.org/web/202408270...isereview.net/

This is a snapshot of the fake review merchants pricing and website.

I was surprised the prices are so high and also surprised the kgirls pay for it. And they even have an agency package smfh.

I did check whether it's a hitpiece because I didn't agree with all the handles listed. But most of the handles are correct. Some of the people listed are definitely same person. Many of the handles were indeed banned by ter (don't ask how I know).

Some pics off the website, no pii here at all.

http://imgur.com/a/uZhqNZC

http://imgur.com/a/PsjirUm

http://imgur.com/a/AjNPmH0

Hope whoever made this site can find new hosting fast.

I don't think scumbaggery that is selling reviews in bulk should be tolerated. And oh yeah, let's the hold the buyers (kgirls in this case) accountable too.

This is truly pathetic.

[Vulcan1009]

https://www.rokm.ch/product-page/cupid

Seem like M is racking up new girls in L. A before the tariff, LOL.

[TheAbc]

Fair warning, this isn't my post but of another poster here who posts on TER as well. His post over there hasn't it made it here or maybe it has I and I haven't seen it yet. This is from "team_rocket_qwerty".

So this website has been circulating in small circles but it got shutdown fast probably because of a lot of pii (phone numbers, zelle accounts etc).

I didn't archive. Ph unfortunately but I definitely downloaded the whole structure locally. As it's mostly phone screenshots.

And no it wasnt me who created it, but I'm certainly impressed by the amount of research and snooping. Salute to whoever made this. One of few people who actually pursue scumbags who are looking to profit off mongers.

In short, the site claimed there are two (at least) fake review vendors who sell reviews to exclusively kgirls.

And then showed proof of kgirl (or maybe someone posing as a kgirl) talking to such merchant making a payment and receiving a review in exchange. Then list of ter handles belonging to merchant was attached. And many girls, mostly Vegas and socal area were grouped by the amount of fake reviews. Someone like Chu had 70 to her name. Holy moly.

http://web.archive.org/web/202408270...isereview.net/

This is a snapshot of the fake review merchants pricing and website.

I was surprised the prices are so high and also surprised the kgirls pay for it. And they even have an agency package smfh.

I did check whether it's a hitpiece because I didn't agree with all the handles listed. But most of the handles are correct. Some of the people listed are definitely same person. Many of the handles were indeed banned by ter (don't ask how I know).

Some pics off the website, no pii here at all.

http://imgur.com/a/uZhqNZC

http://imgur.com/a/PsjirUm

http://imgur.com/a/AjNPmH0

Hope whoever made this site can find new hosting fast.

I don't think scumbaggery that is selling reviews in bulk should be tolerated. And oh yeah, let's the hold the buyers (kgirls in this case) accountable too.

[Heizenberg]

Is Ina actually gone for good? I only saw her once and would like to see her again.

I think she is a rebrand of Collette now.

I was about to see her last Monday but booker said she cancel all her appointment that day.

https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/collette

[TheWhiteDenzel]

You researched carefully and saw a ton of very good reviews for Maya, and then you saw her and she was very good. Now you wonder if it's all downhill after. The good thing is, there are other girls not far off. Most guys appreciate variety. But if you think of it like a contest and keep comparing other girls to Maya, it won't help you and then you might as well just repeat Maya.

Of course, you can indeed repeat Maya and see how that goes. She is priced well. Most guys don't repeat most girls, but when they find a winner they like it can make sense. Especially if you are pacing yourself and doing this after some rest and reflection before seeing her.

The important point is you noted how Maya is miles ahead of your AMP experience. Kgirls do average much higher in service than AMP girls, it's a different level. So I don't think you are at great risk of disappointment with the caveat that you should go in and enjoy a girl one-on-one for what she has to offer. Each girl is different.

The same thing happened with first-timers in SD, they chose Allie first and asked the exact same question. But I see it the other way, when you get Maya or Allie as your first girl you have an epiphany. You stop spending your money at strip clubs and AMPs, you even have more self-respect and don't grovel on tinder or with dating. You see the value as clear as can be. So even if the next girl is a step down, the value is still there. My advice is simply to pace yourself so you don't spend too fast too soon, don't wonder if you're missing out, you'll never be happy with FOMO. When you buy a ticket and watch a movie and it was great, don't imagine "what if there was another great movie I'm missing out on too". Just enjoy them one at a time, take a break, and repeat when you're feeling it again.

Solid advice.

[JuJu256]

Try out Lucy, the face photo is accurate. Her blowjob is nice but she can't even go deeper even on Asian guys. I miss Ina, her blowjob skills is like the pornstar Kalina ryu, she would deepthroat you with her tongue sticking out.

Is Ina actually gone for good? I only saw her once and would like to see her again.

[GreenWorks]

I'm in LA for the next few days and am looking for an older legend. My go to in Vegas is Pepsi. She is possibly the most consistent and most mileage with GFE, pornstar or Greek (depending on the mood) vegaspepsi.com is hee link. For those of you that have seen her, are there any K girls that offer similar service and possibly does P.S. Duo's?

Thank you in advance.

[GeoStellaris]

It does not get much better than maya. You're going to always be thinking about mayas service when you see other kgirls. Try jiyoung and dana now.

Yeah, right now Ji Young, Amy, Laura, and Navi are on my list. I might do a thing where I visit those 4 in the next couple of months or so, and then decide on a favorite. Ji Young has as many favorable reviews. Amy was advertised as having an excellent deep throat and "non-stop" so that got my curious. Laura is advertised as 4'9". As a small guy myself I do want to know what it feels like to be with someone even smaller. And Navi is the only Kbliss girl that does greek, which I have not had the pleasure of experiencing yet. I don't mind being a repeat customer and in fact my enjoy that more than just hopping from girl to girl. I just want to be sure of my decision that the girl I'm choosing is a good fit. Although if I didn't try any other girl and choose to stick with Maya, I'd still very content.

[AsianAssEater]

I think this the girl you talking about?? Her Blowjob suck. She is the best kisser for me, when I fuck her.

Oof she's back? Don't fall for rebrand bois. She's pretty bottom tier if you compare to what's available rn.

[Chancas]

And also, back in the days K-orgs post more realistic photos I would say, around times CV days when many of them across the street from santa monica DMV. Many older mongers here would know that many legends used their real photos with very slight P.S. They were tasteful and business was booming back then.

Yes, but they were also hot back then. Reah, Cia, Mindy7, Megan are some who quickly come to mind.

[BootyBeater]

Yesterday I very much made some very financially irresponsible decisions. I took the L on going with whomever was available that day first and ended up with someone with zero research. I usually don't lose but it was just not it. I ended up leaving early and I asked if my regulars were around and ready to see but being in the evening, they were booked up for the rest of the night.

Booker Jane reminded me that I said I liked Lucky a lot. As good as she is, I did forget my time with her since it's been more than a few weeks.

https://www.kgla.net/

I see a dude asking about the pic, it's was on BG's website but I go through KGLA for Lucky but you can check her out below. There used to be the body of the man who was writing in the picture, but I guess they cropped that out. It was nice though to reconnect with Lucky and have her be more open to getting some of the better parts of the service underway, even as the door opened. Usually takes two or three repeats for me to get that kind of service where the girl knows that I am a partial regular and treat you a little bit better than the first appointment. She was cool with lots of kissing At the door and even in the shower before she had me sit down for the shower.

I only opted for the one hour this time given I had plans, but didn't want to skip out on the Nuru either. Lucky and her jiggly ass had me simping hard, so I asked her to use her ass on my face. Never had a woman slide her butt cheeks up and down my face, and while the gel was thick, zero regrets. Just make sure you wipe your face off with one of the hot towels, so it doesn't get in your eye.

As it was like last time, crazy amount of sensory overload. Not just with her being as great as she is in the sack, but also because she has probably the most amount of mirrors I've ever seen in a in call minus the "palace. " Took a dive with her mouth to leave it on her tongue when I was all finished before getting back in the shower with her. This time around I think we hit it off a little bit better in conversation too. Complements got me a long way with her and she even ended up giving me a last-minute blowjob that took me a little bit over the hour. She didn't even ask for the extra fee, but I figured this was one of those times where she shouldn't have to ask obviously. Gave her two times that MSOG fee and she tried to give it back like a sweetheart, but it was just $40 no biggie.

My friends ended up saying I smelled a little weird. I gave myself a sniff and sure enough. I certainly still smelled like the gel. Pretty funny since I was the only one who knew why but be aware just in case you might have a lady waiting for you at home LOL. Good stuff as always.

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Kbliss Saturday selection.

Maya Lily Linda Dana MDR IU Alyssa mw. Nabi Lucy k town Essie Erica oc.