BBFS Providers Manhattan

[Almost Virgin]

$220 (30 m) /$260 (45 m) /$320 (60 m).

Yeah noticed that last week. Definitely clues in that Jersey is suffering from low traffic.

So that's where Sayuki ended up. She was posted briefly on MK last night for a few hours before disappearing.

[PokerBrah]

$220 (30 m) /$260 (45 m) /$320 (60 m).

https://myluxeescape.com/content/

Yes. But some times guys think the girl must be ugly for that price.

[PokerBrah]

Jeez, 50% is worse than what I thought. If that's the case, Manhattan may be almost as bad as Flushing now, with higher overheads. They should be doing more discounts and promotions.

Expect to see vicious cycle Brah.

On topic of discounts. Discounts, some do, they'll sometimes give you a bone on pricing but it's a bad cycle because then customers are trained to wait for it. It's not a good way to do business either.

And customers can be dumb, we see a cheaper girl and she must be ugly. PPC did a few of these $220 cheap but cute girls and some customers didn't go because they thought they are ugly because $230 price is usually less hot girls.

[Fuctup]

$220 (30 m) /$260 (45 m) /$320 (60 m).

https://myluxeescape.com/content/

[PokerBrah]

Shit Brah! I didn't read this yet. I just want to say this first.

YOU ARE A FUCKING WRITING MACHINE! So much info and posts are so fucking long and detailed (not a bad thing).

You can see the entertainment downturn in strip clubs. Ever since January you can walk in and consistently see fewer customers, you can consistently park closer to the front door. Part of it is when the tech industry started many rounds of layoffs after years of over-hiring post-Covid. These are high paying jobs and those still with jobs just want to cut back a little in case it happens to them next. Regular immigration is a bit harder than before, but it was always a problem to some degree.

I actually made a full kgirl financial forecast post recently. When there is a cheaper and better girl, most people go to her instead. Where I am, korgs and corgs keep each others' prices in check, as well as traditional AMPs, strip clubs, thai orgs, and every other option. But Manhattan is unique in some ways so that distance lessens the impact of cross-competition. But I'm sure it happens.

2 years ago, I correctly predicted drops in bb prices in my town due to several new and cheaper shops. It's simple, when two cheaper shops show up they will take most of the business away from the two OG shops. The OG shops let this slowly happen for 18 months before one of them cracked and price matched. I saw one girl 20 times and she saw the continuous drop in business at her shop due to being more expensive. One of the new shops is now the biggest and most popular. The process is now repeating in the next town over, and I predict that LA will follow soon enough.

Unfortunately, during this downturn it is not common for more new shops to show up. But existing shops will compete with price cuts.





About the nature of intel, make sure to search a reviewer's post history if you don't already know them. Some reviewers actually saw the girl but exaggerate because they are still hypnotized by a girl's charm. Had they waited a few days or weeks for that to wear off, their review would be more reasonable. Others are shills, especially on other sites where no one can even reply.

Here, this is what happens if someone posts obviously wrong intel, even honestly:



In this case, I think the reviewer was honest but guessed wrong. We've all guessed age wrong, all of us. But if you consistently think a women is much younger than she is, you are the lucky one. Don't go to the optomitirst. Don't fix it!
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203795 No don't fix it

To illustrate, I have made two meta reviews of Krissy. I even downplayed her looks and skills because some guys have high standards. I'd rather most guys be pleasantly surprised, no point in people on the fence seeing a girl when there are plenty of guys who can predict they'll definitely like a girl. After each meta review, about 5 new reviews came in and they were each better than the meta review. It is important not to exaggerate, just say what you got for intel. Otherwise guys who were even a little disappointed will make it a point to complain, and we can sympathize. You are supposed to have a good time. It sucks if a guy goes to see a girl you liked on what you said but was disappointed, so if you play it safe maybe he meets halfway and can at least see why other guys liked her as described. Most people understand that.

It's also why I keep descriptions short and to the point on obvious details like face, tits, ass, if she is more looks or more service, height, hair, age estimate, tattoos, etc.. It is inteded to help a guy rule girls out on dealbreakers or go straight for a girl with his spec. It increases his success rate.

[Fuctup]

I've called it for a long time. I know I joked with the #NuclearWinter comment but it's def happening. Doesn't mean there will be no girls but the volume is way down.

I would estimate the business is at maybe 50% of what it used to be. - Some shops are worse and in survival mode. Very hard for them to cut cost in times like this and people are getting more competitive.

Jeez, 50% is worse than what I thought. If that's the case, Manhattan may be almost as bad as Flushing now, with higher overheads. They should be doing more discounts and promotions.

[Download X]

I've called it for a long time. I know I joked with the #NuclearWinter comment but it's def happening. Doesn't mean there will be no girls but the volume is way down.

I would estimate the business is at maybe 50% of what it used to be. - Some shops are worse and in survival mode. Very hard for them to cut cost in times like this and people are getting more competitive.

You can see the entertainment downturn in strip clubs. Ever since January you can walk in and consistently see fewer customers, you can consistently park closer to the front door. Part of it is when the tech industry started many rounds of layoffs after years of over-hiring post-Covid. These are high paying jobs and those still with jobs just want to cut back a little in case it happens to them next. Regular immigration is a bit harder than before, but it was always a problem to some degree.

I actually made a full kgirl financial forecast post recently. When there is a cheaper and better girl, most people go to her instead. Where I am, korgs and corgs keep each others' prices in check, as well as traditional AMPs, strip clubs, thai orgs, and every other option. But Manhattan is unique in some ways so that distance lessens the impact of cross-competition. But I'm sure it happens.

2 years ago, I correctly predicted drops in bb prices in my town due to several new and cheaper shops. It's simple, when two cheaper shops show up they will take most of the business away from the two OG shops. The OG shops let this slowly happen for 18 months before one of them cracked and price matched. I saw one girl 20 times and she saw the continuous drop in business at her shop due to being more expensive. One of the new shops is now the biggest and most popular. The process is now repeating in the next town over, and I predict that LA will follow soon enough.

Unfortunately, during this downturn it is not common for more new shops to show up. But existing shops will compete with price cuts.

Average prices everywhere have been dropping at korgs and even strip clubs. When I go to strip clubs, I see that the clubs have fewer customers too. So every club I go to has lowered their cover fee, for example 20 to 10, 20 to 15. Along these lines, many cities have seen a decline in business. People are being more price conscious again.

Review quality or trustworthiness - sometimes certain spa and certain reviews go up over and over, it means the girl is actually NOT busy. They achieve the counter-effect or trying to make a girl appear to be hot and busy. Everytime you get a dud, you lower the confidence of that review. There will be hot girls who get a ton of reviews but again, you'll know which one is which I think. Good data from DC which helps a lot also.

Opposite also happens for some girls that just won't get any promo cycle time - be certain the word gatekeeping will be used for girls you don't see reviews to make it seem like they are busy.

Intel is harder to come by and hard to trust.

About the nature of intel, make sure to search a reviewer's post history if you don't already know them. Some reviewers actually saw the girl but exaggerate because they are still hypnotized by a girl's charm. Had they waited a few days or weeks for that to wear off, their review would be more reasonable. Others are shills, especially on other sites where no one can even reply.

Here, this is what happens if someone posts obviously wrong intel, even honestly:

The beauty of it is if a guy says a girl is in her 20s and she's not, a lot of people will give their opinion. This just came full circle:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7201609 'Honey is 22 years old'
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7201766 Honey is good looking but not young
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7201802 Honey is 30s
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7202388 Honey is 30s
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203014 Honey confusion
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203161 Honey is hot but not young
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203210 Honey age warning
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203776 OP admits he needs glasses 48 hours later

Everyone was very polite about it, just giving their own opinion. Most like Honey, they say she's good looking and worth seeing, just not 22. Nobody likes disappointment over something like that. No blame to OP, he was giving his honest opinion too and admits it's just a guess. We've all guessed wrong, all of us. But six people immediately put her at 30s if not early 40s.

So it's not something anyone would want to fake. There are older girls who are nice looking and worth seeing, it would just be embarrassing to exaggerate too much. Whereas other HYA are really clear cut, even if they offer nothing else in terms of service. By itself, it's not something impressive to most guys it is just a preference that can equally scare a guy away as much as it helps another guy. Attributes that most guys can agree on are the best ways to describe a girl, anyone can verify it easily. It works just like calling out DD boob sizes, "all natural boobs", hair length or skin color. Easy to verify, not valuable enough to fake.

In this case, I think the reviewer was honest but guessed wrong. We've all guessed age wrong, all of us. But if you consistently think a women is much younger than she is, you are the lucky one. Don't go to the optomitirst. Don't fix it!
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7203795 No don't fix it

To illustrate, I have made two meta reviews of Krissy. I even downplayed her looks and skills because some guys have high standards. I'd rather most guys be pleasantly surprised, no point in people on the fence seeing a girl when there are plenty of guys who can predict they'll definitely like a girl. After each meta review, about 5 new reviews came in and they were each better than the meta review. It is important not to exaggerate, just say what you got for intel. Otherwise guys who were even a little disappointed will make it a point to complain, and we can sympathize. You are supposed to have a good time. It sucks if a guy goes to see a girl you liked on what you said but was disappointed, so if you play it safe maybe he meets halfway and can at least see why other guys liked her as described. Most people understand that.

It's also why I keep descriptions short and to the point on obvious details like face, tits, ass, if she is more looks or more service, height, hair, age estimate, tattoos, etc.. It is inteded to help a guy rule girls out on dealbreakers or go straight for a girl with his spec. It increases his success rate.

It is really important to know what you want as far as looks and service. There is an LA girl I described who has the most beautiful big ass. But half my friends do not want, while the other half are repeating her nonstop. Just how it is, guys are not going to agree because some guys want big ass while other guys hate it. Whereas some guys are boob guys and nothing else matters if a girl doesn't have big boobs. So the first step of picking a girl is narrowing down her specs, as well as knowing if she is looks or service.

[Almost Virgin]

I would estimate the business is at maybe 50% of what it used to be. - Some shops are worse and in survival mode. Very hard for them to cut cost in times like this and people are getting more competitive.

A lot of data points to suggest this IMO.

Another data point comes to mind. Return to office mandates.

Can attest that this one slowed me down a lot. It used to be very easy to block the calendar and sneak out for a mid-day bang during the week. Now I'm more likely to be competing with all the other white collar dicks in Manhattan for some of these after work slots. Have to get more creative nowadays.

These are also likely to be the dudes with the incomes and spare cash to monger more frequently as well compared to blue collar Joe who might be more once a month monger.

[Almost Virgin]

I make it a habit to ask the girls how long they're on staying in NYC during shower time banter in case I find that first repeat worthy girl so I can plan the next visit. Not a single one from last few sessions stayed to the date they told me before disappearing or popping up somewhere else.

Akoya NYAS said 1 month in NYC and disappeared after 1 week in Manhattan, appeared in FireFoxClub shortly after (not sure where this place is located).

Yoona MK said April 25th, gone earlier this week.

[PokerBrah]

You probably have the most frequent eyes around town, how's business?
With the dollar going down against the yen, I can't see how this would be good for the jgirl supply.

I've called it for a long time. I know I joked with the #NuclearWinter comment but it's def happening. Doesn't mean there will be no girls but the volume is way down.

I would estimate the business is at maybe 50% of what it used to be. - Some shops are worse and in survival mode. Very hard for them to cut cost in times like this and people are getting more competitive.

A lot of data points to suggest this IMO.


Less mongers (the real ones) - could be loss of income, fear of inflation, rising cost and 401k?

Less girls

Stays are sometimes shorter now - you'll still see some shit girl stay too but they have no where else to go and staying in the spa is cheaper than hotel. DC <-> NYC movement is more frequent also. 3 days in NYC and gone? that's a clear sign on business also.

Certain days of the week no longer holds. Monday and Friday are not peak days at times where it used to be. Saturday is shit, so bad sometimes the airl just plan OFF Days.

Girls go out to eat sometimes cuz there is no business. Japanese usually strict on gotta make money and they stay in the shop even if there is no booking - just in case someone walks in or ask for a line up.

Empty beds - don't have a warm pussy in the every bed waiting for us. Even if you remove the new spas, rooms are not filled with J pussies anymore.

Stricter entry - more girls turned away - also caught in different countries also.

Cheap fuckers - lol. well we all want to save money.

Review quality or trustworthiness - sometimes certain reviews go up over and over, it means the girl is actually NOT busy. achieving the opposite intended effect.

Intel is harder to come by and hard to trust. You can trust me for sure!!! wink /wink I have a bridge to sell after DK sells his!!!



Balance of Power
Right now - 3 girls across 3 diff stores would have 10/day. Will they last the entire trip? maybe 2 of them will.

They most often drop to 7-8 a day after a couple of days and lower over time for the average dicks per day.

The rest.. 0-5/6 crapshoot. Some days good, some days bad. It is what it is. More and more girls do understand there are just less cocks with money. And longer they stay, the freshness wears off also. They are still very fuckable to a new customer but I'd be bored and I don't wanna fuck them anymore. First time. absolutely I would fuck.

new girl? sometimes will get good numbers for sure but most of them tapers off after 3 days.

[Cooley]

Yes, that's right. I did go and see the one and only Yume. Got NHB / MSOG for 2 hrs. TLDR- rates went up a little more than last time I saw her, but I'm guessing since I'm familiar to her, I still got a better deal than current rates, especially compared to what others like Kanami would likely charge. So it sounds like (at least for me) she's semi-grandfathering familiar clients. Can't really complain, all things considered. YMMV, if you can't get a good deal, don't f*ck it up for the rest of us. Assuming no changes, or unforeseen issues, will probably repeat next time she's back.

Good to know. I'll bring some extra cash and hope it's enough. If not, might have to downgrade time.

[Fuctup]

Well go look at other girl's in the R8 to see if they are busy. It might be doom and gloom for them LOL. Sena is peak Tariff Pussy.

You probably have the most frequent eyes around town, how's business?

With the dollar going down against the yen, I can't see how this would be good for the jgirl supply.

[PokerBrah]

Well go look at other girl's in the R8 to see if they are busy. It might be doom and gloom for them LOL. Sena is peak Tariff Pussy.

So she is an ice princess like Anne or Rihanna? LOL. Anyways, I appreciate the intel and I will adjust my expectations if / when I get to see her. It seems she is crazy popular and difficult to book. Where did these mongers all come out from? So much about the doom and gloom on demand destruction.

Yume PPC may have Sena beat on the # of sessions.

At VK - hope you don't run into swollen pussy. You've had a few bad outtings when you go late on a trained girl.

[PokerBrah]

At VidKing - She is experienced and does offer video. But you might find her cold.

Are you saying we need to be Chads? Good looking and charming?

[VidLover69]

At VidKing - She is experienced and does offer video. But you might find her cold.

So she is an ice princess like Anne or Rihanna? LOL. Anyways, I appreciate the intel and I will adjust my expectations if / when I get to see her. It seems she is crazy popular and difficult to book. Where did these mongers all come out from? So much about the doom and gloom on demand destruction.