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  1. #45540
    Quote Originally Posted by Taliesin92  [View Original Post]
    It has happened at other apartment complexes so, yes, it could certainly happen at Sawtelle. Once the ball starts rolling on move-outs and evictions, it's difficult to reverse that process. Based on past experience, all of the k-girls wind up moving out eventually.

    Because Sawtelle is more than one building, it's one of the the biggest complexes to be affected like this (the biggest that I can recall). So I suppose it's possible some k-girls will remain in some of the other buildings. But that seems like a stretch to me. If I had to bet on it, I'd bet they will all be gone within the next 3 to 4 months. They'll find other apartments in other areas of town, but my guess is Sawtelle will be off limits, at least for a few years.
    Last year a legend was arrested at sawtelle for a fight in a hallway. The other provider claimed she was being trafficked by the legend.

  2. #45539

    Mass exodus

    Quote Originally Posted by CumSquat  [View Original Post]
    Is there really going to be a mass exodus of K-girls from Sawtelle for something as silly as some posted notices?
    It has happened at other apartment complexes so, yes, it could certainly happen at Sawtelle. Once the ball starts rolling on move-outs and evictions, it's difficult to reverse that process. Based on past experience, all of the k-girls wind up moving out eventually.

    Because Sawtelle is more than one building, it's one of the the biggest complexes to be affected like this (the biggest that I can recall). So I suppose it's possible some k-girls will remain in some of the other buildings. But that seems like a stretch to me. If I had to bet on it, I'd bet they will all be gone within the next 3 to 4 months. They'll find other apartments in other areas of town, but my guess is Sawtelle will be off limits, at least for a few years.

  3. #45538
    Quote Originally Posted by TypicalJohn  [View Original Post]
    I wouldn't take it so lightly. I heard one working girl was arrested in another area in LA. So we all (WG, customer) got to be careful. Doesn't hurt to be extra cautious.
    Quote Originally Posted by CumSquat  [View Original Post]
    Is there really going to be a mass exodus of K-girls from Sawtelle for something as silly as some posted notices?
    I've said before about being considerate to neighbors, and enforcement varies so much city to city. In OC a corg was busted with a warrant after repeated neighbor complaints. They arrested two corg men who worked as staff, but let all women go as victims. Here is the exact wording of the news article.

    "Three victims at the residence were given information on victim assistance before leaving the property."

    By the way, the Irvine corg was putting hundreds of fliers on cars. That was the start of complaints and a part of the line crossed. Excerpted from news article:

    "Two men were arrested on suspicion of sex trafficking after police discovered a brothel in an Irvine home that the men allegedly were advertising on fliers placed on neighbors cars, police said."

    In other words police wanted to solve the neighbor complaints, they were doing their jobs. Most cops have real crimes to solve, but it crosses the line when you bother people. Do not bother the neighbors, do not hang out, don't give residents a hard time with things like fliers. 99% of people don't care unless you bother them where they live. Same with leasing, they want people to be happy. So those posted notices you reference spoke to exactly that sentiment, I'm saying it's pretty much everything and just a sampling of their feelings. Many of us noted that this year people are not considerate like they used to be, especially at that exact location months ago.

    If you see someone hanging out, let the booker know. Don't approach a place ahead of time expecting it, it's wrong. No judgement, everyone makes mistakes and deserves a warning. But they need to stop.

    In SD it was even sillier:
    There was a corg in SD where the police would show up and ask them to please stop bothering the neighbors. Months later, a woman died so police had to investigate again but it was an OD so not foul play. They then let the corg guys go in exchange for borrowing the house to run stings for a week, since they were there for the dead woman and not about the corg. Hence news reported "police had been to this location before". That corg has set up just 10 minutes away and is still running to this day!
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7123649 Make people happy.

    In SD they did not even arrest anyone, just shut it down because it was bothering neighbors. With no bother, people go live their lives and focus on the real problems. That org is still serving up old Chinese women to this day. You know the silliest thing? AFTER that incident someone asked about that same SD corg on Oct 15th, even knowing what happened. I warned them again that while corgs work for some people, this particular one is lax. So of course the next day on Oct 16th, the OC branch of this corg was shut down. What branch? The very OC corg I just mentioned passing out fliers. I mean come on.
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...43#post7067143 Some corgs are lax.

    To use an better example of how enforcement varies, City of Industry is still a non-stop fuck fest. They don't bother anyone so no one gets elected about it, that's why. Any local knows it's a net positive, there's not much else to do and it employs locals. Most Cops know how to have a good time, local clubs keep it hidden rather than out in the open where neighbors can see. So no one wants to have the rep of being the guy who shut it down when your coworkers actually like the clubs. The teasing will never stop.

    San Diego clubs have a funnier story. Cops won't even touch Cheetah's anymore out of embarrassment being dressed down in court since 2018. All evidence dismissed and police were fined. Every single year the mileage has risen since, it has by far the hottest girls but also lowest mileage. Don't go unless you want just a solid lap dance. Many girls will not even let you LDK, even though at least they are hot enough to do it.
    https://www.10news.com/news/exotic-d...o-police-raids $1.5 million paid out to Cheetah's dancers for illegal raid
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7109096 Guide to SD sad but hot strip clubs
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/auth...thor=nympho710 LDK

    Even more, in parts of NYC, they've changed their priorities and dismissed all cases years ago. They ended prosecution and reversed past convictions for decades. Previously to this, policy was to dismiss prosecution after five counseling sessions which was already lenient.
    https://pix11.com/news/local-news/ma...ands-of-cases/ NYC changes priorities.

    Within NYC itself, there has been a 100-fold drop in prostitution arrests in the city.
    https://gothamist.com/news/there-use...-now-about-100 My body is my business

    There is an important moral for each example I cited. Some places are better than others and it is often just a district line or friendlier neighborhood. In Manhattan's case you are always about 1 mile away where things change.

    It reminds me of when they legalized weed, with people in a panic. But nothing bad happened. Everything is fine. A reminder that before 50 years ago weed was a felony in CA, 30 years ago weed was given medical exemption, then 8 years ago fully legalized. Nothing bad happened, even its critics have moved on and many have joined the club. But to the point of local jurisdiction, it is still highly illegal in other places. I want to point out the most powerful change happened with decades of public discourse about weed, when it was still technically illegal but not really enforced. Peoples' minds changed before the law changed.

    I remember one popular kgirl telling me her mom was worried about her working OC. I reassured her that yes I'm sure there are problem people, but most people are fine. She said no, her mom was worried about guns and weed. Oh.

  4. #45537
    Quote Originally Posted by CumSquat  [View Original Post]
    Is there really going to be a mass exodus of K-girls from Sawtelle for something as silly as some posted notices?
    I wouldn't take it so lightly. I heard one working girl was arrested in another area in LA. So we all (WG, customer) got to be careful. Doesn't hurt to be extra cautious.

  5. #45536

    Cream

    IMO Cream is borderline HYA on the slightly older side. I liked her curvy body, pretty big tits with thin waist. I dunno if people consider this TOAS but I thought it counts. Ass just big enough but not too big haha. She is service oriented and willing to please. Welcomed me in with a hug and kiss, super generous with the DFK. She responds well to DATY and got very wet from it. Takes directions well and very enthusiastic about making sure you're having a good time. I booked thru topangels and I think her photos from there are fake. However her photos from this ad are accurate with photoshop. The nurse cosplay photo best representation IMO https://littletokyolv.com/g5/bbs/con...hp?co_id=cream.

  6. #45535
    Quote Originally Posted by PumpNDump  [View Original Post]
    BookerM. Girls of wla still in process of moving. Playa playground attendants should be updated by this coming weekend.

    https://www.rokm.ch/
    Is there really going to be a mass exodus of K-girls from Sawtelle for something as silly as some posted notices?

  7. #45534
    BookerM. Santa's helper are on duty. Verified with Michelle, Juicy is scheduled to offer her wet sleigh rides today and tomorrow. Veronica also confirmed to be on duty in playa.

    https://www.rokm.ch/

  8. #45533
    Kbliss Tuesday listing.

    Viki Veronica Sawtelle Cherry mw.

  9. #45532
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy21  [View Original Post]
    They wanted way too much information. DL pic with no redacting, two pieces of mail pics with my address, Work information. It ain't worth it IMO. I'd rather stick to my bookers that I have already cleared with than give CG all that information. Way too intrusive. I have tried to get references from SAG and KBliss, but they won't give them out. My guess is that they want to protect their own supply of donations and giving out a reference would harm their bottom line as dudes would perhaps move on to other orgs.
    It sounds like CGLA isn't friendly with SAG and Kbliss. This is one advantage of HX, you can prove your references regardless if they want to communicate. I would not give up on expanding in a different direction - it should not be aproblem since you are in with SAG and Kbliss. I will point out the obvious later so read carefully.

    First, I'll describe HX. The HX route is "real action" screening by seeing independents and agencies. It's taken as better proof anyways:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7115875 HX guide

    Quote Originally Posted by TastyDelights  [View Original Post]
    This has probably been asked a million times, but how does one get passed Id verification these days? I have one review on Humaniplex from LAKAngels, but I suspect that's not going to cut it.
    Do you use Private Delights? See this for advanced tactics:
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...te#post7135440

    Screening protects all existing customers, it's nothing personal. HX, PD, and similar resources are win win because it protects new customers, too. A good enough HX network is much better than Pii. You can even use HX to verify agencies too, it works both ways.

    Some bookers are friendly, meaning even though I never used them before they already know I booked their girl through another booker. This is what I did one time, I was able to use a friendly booker to see an exclusive girl. Look for this as an alternative way to branch out one step. Then use that for reference and HX. It is a similar concept to HX - "real action" screening. You've already done this btw.

    Quote Originally Posted by Resilient John  [View Original Post]
    I am still advocating using the smaller orgs though. In my eyes, they feel more appreciative of your business.
    This is also for the greater good. Choice and competition are essential for the future.

  10. #45531
    Quote Originally Posted by Chupacabra  [View Original Post]
    CG are assholes, imo. They banned me after maybe 5-6 years because they said I passed a counterfeit $20. A $20! I said I wouldn't know a counterfeit bill if it bit me in the ass and that I'd be happy to pay it back next session. They blocked me and also blackballed me at another booker as a result. F 'them, I say. Too big for their own britches. I recommend M, she is professional, pleasant and not a petty tyrant.
    I 2nd this, ever since I got in with M I haven't used anyone else. Answers questions, keeps tracks of tastes and recs girls similar to what you like, discounts, knows customer service as well.

    M, Nana, ta, are the goats imo.

  11. #45530
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy21  [View Original Post]
    They wanted way too much information. DL pic with no redacting, two pieces of mail pics with my address, Work information. It ain't worth it IMO. I'd rather stick to my bookers that I have already cleared with than give CG all that information. Way too intrusive. I have tried to get references from SAG and KBliss, but they won't give them out. My guess is that they want to protect their own supply of donations and giving out a reference would harm their bottom line as dudes would perhaps move on to other orgs.
    CG are assholes, imo. They banned me after maybe 5-6 years because they said I passed a counterfeit $20. A $20! I said I wouldn't know a counterfeit bill if it bit me in the ass and that I'd be happy to pay it back next session. They blocked me and also blackballed me at another booker as a result. F 'them, I say. Too big for their own britches. I recommend M, she is professional, pleasant and not a petty tyrant.

  12. #45529
    Quote Originally Posted by Cowboy21  [View Original Post]
    They wanted way too much information. DL pic with no redacting, two pieces of mail pics with my address, Work information. It ain't worth it IMO. I'd rather stick to my bookers that I have already cleared with than give CG all that information. Way too intrusive. I have tried to get references from SAG and KBliss, but they won't give them out. My guess is that they want to protect their own supply of donations and giving out a reference would harm their bottom line as dudes would perhaps move on to other orgs.
    I would still recommend reaching out other bookers to have them under your belt as a fallback. Do it at your own pace depending on your needs. Some might even be willing to reference to CGLA. Unfortunately, I don't know know which bookers are friendly with each other. A few years ago most were all fine and dandy but recently there seems to be some bad blood between them. I don't care what the reason is but for those looking to expand their booker network, it's become a hassle to overcome.

    I am still advocating using the smaller orgs though. In my eyes, they feel more appreciative of your business.

  13. #45528

    Reply and thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by DownloadX  [View Original Post]
    No one will ever be able to give you an accurate account of that either way. I suggest that there are other bookers you can try if it's a dealbreaker, this is just a hobby and no girl is that much worth seeing if you aren't comfortable. Some people are fine with a compromise of limited info, only you can decide that. I know people who gave info with no problem for a very long time, but at the same time I tell them to start using references instead as soon as they can. And I totally sympathize if you are tired with an agency and want to try another. We have a choice.

    A selfie request is common these days to rule out certain people, but I've never had to do it. References are still the best way. The more you have, the easier it gets over the years. You can find guides on other ways if you read around, some guy posted a detailed Humaniplex guide. But at some point, it's no good to repeat this information too much or to make things too easy. People already screened with an agency are on repeat and the last thing they want is for new people to cause problems. Screening naturally has to have higher standards the longer an org has been running, it's nothing personal.

    People ultimately do have to research and figure things out on their own in this hobby, if they can't then it's not for them. There are plenty of alternatives including AMPs and COI, something for everyone. Even Japan, TJ, or NYC are options where things are very open and different, either totally legal or practically due to near zero enforcement. Good luck.

    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...ders-Manhattan Jgirl heaven in NYC
    http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2969516 $200 to $280 for 60 mins Japan
    http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...ijuana-Reports About $100 a bang last I checked, legal
    They wanted way too much information. DL pic with no redacting, two pieces of mail pics with my address, Work information. It ain't worth it IMO. I'd rather stick to my bookers that I have already cleared with than give CG all that information. Way too intrusive. I have tried to get references from SAG and KBliss, but they won't give them out. My guess is that they want to protect their own supply of donations and giving out a reference would harm their bottom line as dudes would perhaps move on to other orgs.

  14. #45527
    BookerM. Girls of wla still in process of moving. Playa playground attendants should be updated by this coming weekend.

    https://www.rokm.ch/

  15. #45526
    Quote Originally Posted by CreamInside  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Sesang the org that charges a cancellation fee where you have to pay the full amount of the donation on your next visit? I always thought that was absurd. There is no other k girl org that does this in socal so I hope it is not some sort of policy that catches on. Yeah, I think it would be best if Sesang goes away because I don't want these types of policies being adopted by other orgs. I would never give my business to an org that has these type of dumb rules and policies.
    If you cancel you either pay double or get banned it's what happened to me. Then they try the scare tactics of saying you're banned from other orgs too which was total bs as well because I'm still using the ones I'm supposedly banned from lmao.

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