General Reports

[JonathonJammer]

Have you ever heard of Google, my friend? Look it up. Seattle in 2016. Boston and Northern Virginia earlier this year. Countless other cases. Just because it has never happened to you doesn't mean it has never happened.

Do you know the guys in Seattle were busted for writing reviews? Not for soliciting prostitution. Not for human trafficking. For writing reviews on the internet.

"But that's not illegal," I hear you saying. Well, guys in Seattle went to jail for it. And guess who made a plea deal by giving up her client list and telling the cops everything she knew?

Yeah, go look it up. You can read the newspaper articles, but if you really want to know what happened, then read the court documents, as I have. They are public information, and they are very eye-opening. It is easy for any one of us to go to jail for participating in this hobby. The authorities view male customers as the real criminals. If your name winds up on a client list, that is the first step toward some potentially very bad things happening to you.

So unless it's caught on video or seen by law enforcement they can not prosecute you for it and win! I hear you did they do it maybe but the only case they might of won or plead out is the ones where idiots were so scared and sang like canaries. Cops needs hard evidence to find you guilty not a list of names. Like the blade on Fig put up cameras and is sending pics of you and your vehicle now if you are caught in the area. You think they would send you a letter with pictures if they could just come to your home and arrest you? They trying to scare you!! I guess point of the story is keep your mouth shut!

[Taliesin92]

I'd love to see an example of a client list leading to a plea deal. A korg having a text with your ID does nothing to prove that something criminal took place. It is not illegal to text a prostitute your ID and other information.

The most it could lead to is a coordinated sting / setup. There is no chance you get a cop at your door someday because they found your info on a client list. There just arent laws in place that make that a crime.

Have you ever heard of Google, my friend? Look it up. Seattle in 2016. Boston and Northern Virginia earlier this year. Countless other cases. Just because it has never happened to you doesn't mean it has never happened.

Do you know the guys in Seattle were busted for writing reviews? Not for soliciting prostitution. Not for human trafficking. For writing reviews on the internet.

"But that's not illegal," I hear you saying. Well, guys in Seattle went to jail for it. And guess who made a plea deal by giving up her client list and telling the cops everything she knew?

Yeah, go look it up. You can read the newspaper articles, but if you really want to know what happened, then read the court documents, as I have. They are public information, and they are very eye-opening. It is easy for any one of us to go to jail for participating in this hobby. The authorities view male customers as the real criminals. If your name winds up on a client list, that is the first step toward some potentially very bad things happening to you.

[Oc Amper]

Really?

When I text an organization, in addition to rate & location, I generally get a full list of do's and no's. And if any extra charge for something.

BBFS, BBBJ, CIM, DATO, FIV, FIA, the list continues, why would you want that tied to your real name?

Even if the org dosen't cop a plea, all the phones and such will be confiscated as evidence.

Perhaps LE won't go after the client list. But I for one am not taking that chance.

If people feel comfortable, in giving that info up. That's fine, but I bet most people would avoid if it's easy to avoid, and it is.

I'd love to see an example of a client list leading to a plea deal. A korg having a text with your ID does nothing to prove that something criminal took place. It is not illegal to text a prostitute your ID and other information.

The most it could lead to is a coordinated sting / setup. There is no chance you get a cop at your door someday because they found your info on a client list. There just arent laws in place that make that a crime.

Both of you are right, and perhaps wrong. I'd say, there is a chance that LE could show up at the door. All they could do is interview you, and if you offer self incriminating statements, that could lead somewhere. I don't think there is any legal issue with LE interviewing at the home, and that would pose a problem for many here.

Plea deals, LE will seize all phones / computers / etc, so unless the devices / documents are encrypted they would have it all on during the search warrant. The possibility of encrypted devices, is increasing year by year. I don't know the laws that might compel someone to divulge passwords and that sort of thing.

I'd suspect, a plea deal would only work, if the agency could lead to arrests to further take down the larger organization. I doubt a plea would be offered to arrest johns. Could happen, just not the usual thing they should be going after.

It's been a while since I've used an agency. From what I recall, going back a ways, they didn't communicate much if anything. Just a rate for the girl, which included what ever she offered as part of the service. No upgrades, just purely 30/60 minutes and the price.

Having said that much, I wouldn't want my name associated with BBFS / FS or any others from the cornucopia of acronyms that these folks use. I don't believe any of that alone is enough to convict someone, but it surely is enough to convict one in the eyes of a spouse / children / friends / acquaintances.

[Taws6]

I'd love to see an example of a client list leading to a plea deal. A korg having a text with your ID does nothing to prove that something criminal took place. It is not illegal to text a prostitute your ID and other information.

The most it could lead to is a coordinated sting / setup. There is no chance you get a cop at your door someday because they found your info on a client list. There just arent laws in place that make that a crime.

Really?

When I text an organization, in addition to rate & location, I generally get a full list of do's and no's. And if any extra charge for something.

BBFS, BBBJ, CIM, DATO, FIV, FIA, the list continues, why would you want that tied to your real name?

Even if the org dosen't cop a plea, all the phones and such will be confiscated as evidence.

Perhaps LE won't go after the client list. But I for one am not taking that chance.

If people feel comfortable, in giving that info up. That's fine, but I bet most people would avoid if it's easy to avoid, and it is.

[FarFarAway]

I'd love to see an example of a client list leading to a plea deal. A korg having a text with your ID does nothing to prove that something criminal took place. It is not illegal to text a prostitute your ID and other information.

The most it could lead to is a coordinated sting / setup. There is no chance you get a cop at your door someday because they found your info on a client list. There just arent laws in place that make that a crime.

As many people say, however, it isn't the ultimate consequences we are fearful about. It is what happens if someone, anyone (LE or other) elects to pursue the personal info they can get if you give it up. A phone call to your real home phone (findable online easily if they know your real name) could absolutely destroy some people's lives. Personally and possibly professionally. This is why I would agree w / another poster, go the route recommended by others, get a track record by the slow, safe way.

That list of Ashley Madison customers (email, phone numbers, credit cards) is still available on the web. Don't you think the FBI is searching that when they are trying to vet candidates for political appointments? A private investigator would go there pronto if he was working on a divorce case.

[Opi7001]

Trust your gut. If it feels risky to you, that's because it is. I hate to sound like a broken record, but this question comes up a lot and I always say the same thing: Don't give up your Personally Identifying Information (PII). I never have and I never will. These agencies may seem benign, but keep in mind, they are criminal organizations. You need to protect yourself, and the best way of doing that is to stay anonymous.

Take the long road. Follow Download X's instructions below. It's more work, it takes more time, it's a pain in the ass, but it's worth it knowing that you can't be blackmailed, you can't be doxed, and the agency can't turn over your information someday when they get busted by Uncle LEO. They WILL give up their client list if it means getting a better plea deal. We've seen it happen before in many cases in many cities. Every agency says they won't keep your PII on file, but that's a lie. They have every reason to keep it, and no reason to delete it.

Once you have a few solid references in your pocket, you'll be able to see just about anyone. Some agencies might still want your PII, but if you tell them "No," and offer three solid Korean references instead, most of them will accept you. That's the way to go. And, by the way, the agencies that won't accept you with three solid Korean references those are the BAD guys. Stay away from them. If they want your PII that badly, it's because they intend to use it against you someday.

I'd love to see an example of a client list leading to a plea deal. A korg having a text with your ID does nothing to prove that something criminal took place. It is not illegal to text a prostitute your ID and other information.

The most it could lead to is a coordinated sting / setup. There is no chance you get a cop at your door someday because they found your info on a client list. There just arent laws in place that make that a crime.

[Taliesin92]

So do all of you really send a picture of your Id, selfie, etc to these people? That seems so risky imo. Would love to see these girls but idk if that's worth the risk.

Trust your gut. If it feels risky to you, that's because it is. I hate to sound like a broken record, but this question comes up a lot and I always say the same thing: Don't give up your Personally Identifying Information (PII). I never have and I never will. These agencies may seem benign, but keep in mind, they are criminal organizations. You need to protect yourself, and the best way of doing that is to stay anonymous.

Take the long road. Follow Download X's instructions below. It's more work, it takes more time, it's a pain in the ass, but it's worth it knowing that you can't be blackmailed, you can't be doxed, and the agency can't turn over your information someday when they get busted by Uncle LEO. They WILL give up their client list if it means getting a better plea deal. We've seen it happen before in many cases in many cities. Every agency says they won't keep your PII on file, but that's a lie. They have every reason to keep it, and no reason to delete it.

Once you have a few solid references in your pocket, you'll be able to see just about anyone. Some agencies might still want your PII, but if you tell them "No," and offer three solid Korean references instead, most of them will accept you. That's the way to go. And, by the way, the agencies that won't accept you with three solid Korean references — those are the BAD guys. Stay away from them. If they want your PII that badly, it's because they intend to use it against you someday.

[Tnyayy]

Holiday season means it's a good time to reminisce. I want to ask my fellow hobbyist a question. What's the best freebie you've gotten? It's no secret that girls open up their menus if they like you. How far have you gotten without paying for it?

[OldDude19]

I don't really want to get too much into politics but I think we'll be fine here in California. We set up alot sanctuary cities where local law enforcement agencies said they wouldn't really work with ICE to enforce immigration laws I believe LA just became one during his last term.

We will see how it's going to go. You should check out the Charlotte, NC board. I guess the state just passed a law making solicitation a felony starting December.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...c-1-2024/page2

Hope these types laws stay in the Bible Belt and Project 2025 remains a thought piece rather than a blueprint for the morality police.

[Atlus]

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What do you guys think?

I don't really want to get too much into politics but I think we'll be fine here in California. We set up alot sanctuary cities where local law enforcement agencies said they wouldn't really work with ICE to enforce immigration laws I believe LA just became one during his last term.

[DCGrind]

Overreaction x 100. Please stop trying to scare people.

https://youtu.be/AxzELzbhZ_s

Boy, this guy sounds like a super-racist piece of work. (whf is a popcorn fart anyway?? - 3:55).

My take: After Trump takes over, unless California legalizes prostitution (fat chance of that happening), this will spread to other states including right here and in a big way. I also think a good chunk of the current crop of workers will either disappear, be deported or go under the radar for fear of being deported. Even if you're here legally, you get arrested for this or a similar offense, there's a good chance they'll try to deport you before you can say "I want to talk to my lawyer". Heck, they're even talking about "denaturalizing" and deporting naturalized US citizens who are otherwise legal, but may have committed some minor crime. My guess is that will never happen, but it gives an idea of where things are headed. I wouldn't be surprised that if fit hits the shan, a large number of the AMPs, and not just the CAMPs, will close down.

What do you guys think?

[Taws6]

https://youtu.be/AxzELzbhZ_sAfter Trump takes over, unless California legalizes prostitution (

I totally disagree, it's obvious that you aren't a fan of Trump, which is fine, I don't like him as a person either, but he's got bigger things on his agenda I think.

One thing I think we can agree on is most people would say Trump is a womanizer, famous for some of the stuff he's said actually.

So yeah, he campaigned on lots of stuff, and that will keep him busy (economy driven stuff), which will I think take priority over his call for deportations.

On Deportations, from what I've seen and read, he's going to start with the felons first (murderers, rapists, child molesters etc), and of that, concentrate on those that crossed the border illegally, not those that are here on work visas (like the Chineese in your linked story).

But, I could be wrong.

[Assaholic]

https://youtu.be/AxzELzbhZ_s

Boy, this guy sounds like a super-racist piece of work. (whf is a popcorn fart anyway?? - 3:55).

My take: After Trump takes over, unless California legalizes prostitution (fat chance of that happening), this will spread to other states including right here and in a big way. I also think a good chunk of the current crop of workers will either disappear, be deported or go under the radar for fear of being deported. Even if you're here legally, you get arrested for this or a similar offense, there's a good chance they'll try to deport you before you can say "I want to talk to my lawyer". Heck, they're even talking about "denaturalizing" and deporting naturalized US citizens who are otherwise legal, but may have committed some minor crime. My guess is that will never happen, but it gives an idea of where things are headed. I wouldn't be surprised that if fit hits the shan, a large number of the AMPs, and not just the CAMPs, will close down.

What do you guys think?

[BSouthgate]

When women get turned on, they have blood flow to their privates too, and the whole machinery gets reved up. I have heard that some women have big clits like small dicks too. From experience with non-professionals, they need a little time, some hugging, maybe DFK, some gradual turn on, and maybe some emotional connection. Its hard to get all that going in a dark room while you are on the clock, and her colleagues and boss are a few feet away.

Respectfully disagree.

Women orgasm more frequently than men do. There is practically no limit to the number of Os a woman can enjoy in a day. See, for example, here. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/art...-come-in-a-row#refractory-period. It has little to do with emotional connection. They sometimes orgasm ten times during masturbation when there is no emotional connection at all.

There is a definite limit for men. Most of you have been with multi-orgasmic women. Right after their clits retract and, trembling, they clench your head with their knees, they need only a few seconds to invite more of your fingering and tonguing for the next O.

Their libido is more variable. There is great variation between women and between days of the month in a single woman. Some research shows that they orgasm more frequently and harder at the middle of their ovarian cycle.

Women, like men, do not have to be in love to enjoy sex and orgasm.

[HapaBoy86]

Have you guys ever thought why pussy tastes like sea?

Nah, wether it smells like starkist or bumble tuna when you know that smell!

You don't go diving into muff city even with a Mask!