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12-03-24 02:54 #8463
Posts: 1564Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
I've been encouraging reviews in many cities. But in LA it can get weird because out of many great and reliable agencies there's going to be some problem. Full disclosure, I had to report to admin a very unhinged and threatening post made, obviously from a non-English speaker reading the LA board. Their lack of English maybe led them to misunderstand people saying "post honest reviews", because they even agreed in their post that that was admirable. But then it pro-actively threatened revenge and to dox people for reviews (okay this person is definitely Korean). Would be nice to know which agency has that policy lol. What an escalation, 80% of reviews are quite positive and drive the business. If 100% of reviews were positive, then no one would believe them.
The last time an agency tried something over reviews, they were 100% banned from TER, every girl who was on their roster was permanently wiped. You could not even post a new review for that agency. This was over just banning customers, let alone threats to harm them.
Think about this more. It is always an idle threat to harm customers because they know if they cross that red line and actually do it, everyone would soon know which agency is dangerous. I can understand banning customers, you don't have to serve anyone you don't like. You'll just lose TER like the last agency. But harming your own best customers who all know each other, some in real life? Who is going to screen or book with an agency that does this? People in the past have already done more to units, for lesser reasons. They already know that, so they would not do it. They literally have more to lose.
Antagonizing customers simply encourages negative reviews btw. And NYC is quite playful with their negative descriptions, you'd miss it if you weren't a native speaker.
That said, people have also had trouble with rebrands. Having to walk in and see a girl they already saw. A girl they can accept seeing the first time, but not accidentally booking for a forced repeat this way. While the previous threat was made by an owner, for rebrands the weird questions happen from bookers PMing users. I think it's fair enough to politely ask, but if any user feels uncomfortable or there's some implication, that's a safety issue with that agency. I have reassured several users that all bookers can do is make them vaguely uncomfortable. Again, they have more to lose. I doubt it would happen but if there are outright threats, just name them. What do you expect.
Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
I honestly feel half of it is just identifying the HYA. Below 30 years old, above average looks, that's Hot Young Asian to most people
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12-03-24 02:33 #8462
Posts: 667Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
I think it goes without saying that HYAs are much more likely to be poor service. I'm sure there are outliers but that should be the default assumption going in. As for fabricated reviews, that's already happening so it's nothing new. And it's not just HYAs either, reviews that are fake or inflated are being used to push MILFs, HYAs, and others. It's more work but if there's a review of a girl you are looking to see, it behooves you to make it a habit to checkout the reviewer's post history especially if it's low in count. By doing this, it'll help you fill in the gaps regarding the motives of their post. Similary for the other site, just look at their review history to help gauge how much of fan fic author they are.
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12-03-24 01:57 #8461
Posts: 3432You said almost exactly the same thing I thought.
Grading is too much work for me who doesn't care about the grading. Even if I want to be fair on TER, I would feel like the other side (MILF lovers) is not playing fair. Some TER people are lazy and just look at scores and don't read details either. TER is especially useless to me cause they don't review new and hot young girls. Friend of NG who someone said was the hottest HYA he ever banged got like 0 review on TER. Yeah I banged her before anyone shared intel and certified her here too. I may not be the first to review but I will review.
I can just tell from a quick read of TER General Details which girl may worth a try, if they reviewed someone I was considering seeing. Don't even need VIP or look at rating.
Some people are very good with PLEASER descriptions. I am not but I try to describe looks.
It was fun discussing but I should get back to TOFTT.
Originally Posted by DownloadX [View Original Post]
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12-03-24 00:54 #8460
Posts: 3432Nali vs Evian vs Yuffie
I was neither pressuring people to review nor asking them to exaggerate. It's my knee jerk reaction whenever someone brings up rate or quality and I haven't banged a new HYA in a few days.
Just like you, I think it's dishonest when an MILF is described as being in her 20's, or even 30's when I think she might be 40+, or that she gets 9 in looks like HYA.
What is your looks and service score for this MILF and if you don't mind give her name? Did you go over 1 hour? That was like 2 minutes for clothes off / on, 8 minutes of BBBJDTCIMWS, 50 minutes of hard BBFSCIP.
Let's assume this is Juicy / Yuffie who I still haven't seen. That's a TER performance of 8, or a 9 if she forcefully DFK'ed me. Based on her pics, 6 in looks at best. That juicy ass and tits look tempting. Age range of 45-50. Now if there was a HYA who just lie there like a dead fish, I would give 4 in performance = She just laid there.
Back to HYA like Nali / Joah who had like 3 reviews while Tifa had 56 reviews in the same 2 months. Now you see why I am not happy about reviews. Anyway, I would give Nali an 8 in looks = She was really hot. I love her body that much and her face was easy on the eyes too. Her performance? 9 = I forgot it was a service. She DT'ed me like few others. The illusion of passion was off the chart. I thought I was a young stud and forgot I was old and this was a service.
Next there is Baby Evian. Also a 9 in performance. She made me think I was a porn star, the King, and I also forgot it was a service. Someone else said she had zero service. Digging further and I see that he just didn't like her attitude, or thought she was being too theatrical. She did all the menu items so I just chalked that up to chemistry issue.
Now you see why my first post in HYA thread didn't care about service.
Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
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12-03-24 00:08 #8459
Posts: 1564Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
We can't agree on the rating, not even close. But we all 80% agree that a girl looks under 30 and is above average looking. That standard is clear because many will look way younger than 30 and look way better than average. I did meticulous work to prove this is true including coming up with my HYA list without even looking at Boner's list, then finding it nearly identical anyways. Likewise, we tend to grade women on other stats consistently. Hair, height, body type, weight, and so on. HYA is no different if not more consistent. There is a more important reason, when I meet and discuss girls with someone else who likes HYA, the girls we like overlap a ton. I have actually met guys who had nearly identical list of 6-8 OC favorites, out of 50 girls. 80% overlap. Shouldn't be hard to imagine, if someone downright loved GILFs and compared notes with another GILF hunter, it would be 80% overlap too. And that's why we label girls HYA, MILF, GILF. We all have two eyes and tend to agree.
Even worse is TER. I've called out guys who give a majority of women a perfect 10 in looks. See for yourself, 4 out of 7 girls are perfect 10's:
https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...mberName=gburn
TER is full of this. This is no longer a difference of opinion, it is just not honest. No different than guys who call a 40's MILF as 20. Most of the time we caught someone doing that, it was clear they didn't even see the girl. But even in cases where he did see the girl, such exaggerations are worthless. Out of 110 agency girls I give 1% a perfect 10, just 1. Maybe 2 more by rounding 9.5s I'm not sure which way should round. This guy gave 57% perfect 10s and he's not alone. So I'm all for differences of opinion but sometimes it is just too obvious the person is lying. Exaggerating to the extreme is just lying with extra steps. It's especially clear when you actually read the TER review and see a person's grade nowhere near matches his words. That's actually the norm, some guys only give 4's to 6's but their reviews are quite positive (and don't correlate to their number even). In local markets I literally know who reviewed a girl when I run across a 4 to 6! It's just the same guy! Such absolutely useless intel. Then there are guys who write out a positive review and give a 6, then a mediocre review and give an 8. Let me spell it out, if a reviewer cannot even be internally consistent, then his reviews are literally misinformation.
I've linked to plenty of examples of this in the past, but anyone who has read TER reviews already knows this. I used to read through thousands of TER reviews until I realized it didn't even help me choose a girl since I have particular tastes and the reviews rarely give any intel on that.
I'm not saying don't use grades, go ahead. It's just useless to me. Accurate factual descriptions are all that matter to a lot of people. Just tell me if a girl is young, what her body is like, how tall she is. Each one of these things is missing from the majority of TER reviews, but matter more than the entire TER reviews. There are PLEASER reviews where I can literally tell I'll like a girl that the reviewer didn't like, because he described the girl. I rushed to see her, of course I liked her. PLEASER reviews are fundamentally better because they remind people of the bare minimum. Don't even get me started on the fan fiction that fills TER that has caused problems. PM me for details, it is not pleasant for public discussion.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7084633 "Tifa is very young" = 100% shill
Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...rName=Johnben1
I used to love MILF service queens. After 10 years of them, I'm just done. You'll never hear me complain of them or say guys shouldn't see them, quite the opposite in my HYA lists I always remind guys that most guys should ignore my list and go after MILFs instead. That said, believe me when I say I'm just not interested in them anymore, with exceptions. I respect and appreciate them still, and if I toftt and get a MILF I think "here we go again" and brace myself.
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12-03-24 00:05 #8458
Posts: 3432Is it hype or is it intel?
I meant "hype" as in making people fear they missing out, and when they join the club, they will be hyped up and glad to be in it, that kind of hype. Constant publicity like the media campaigning for someone. Like Pepsi being hyped cause people have short attention span. I can take HYA club to the next level if I was true baller.
Market is irrational and prone to manipulation. Full analytics and honest intel to help them make better decision. People have threatened to quit the Kgirls before cause they were unhappy with the choices. I was sure we lost many OGs after TER and this site went dark cause of lack of intel. That was why I showed up to help.
Originally Posted by PogeyBait [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 19:56 #8457
Posts: 711Originally Posted by RocketManP [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 19:41 #8456
Posts: 748Ok
Originally Posted by Aaabbbccc123 [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 19:05 #8455
Posts: 286The market will self-correct
Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 15:27 #8454
Posts: 1564Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
I'll speak to your other points, take heart that I see many new people trying and we don't want to pressure them to do more. Rather, encourage the others to come out and play. Everyone has to work with their level of comfort. But some tough love does help because they need to take over. It will happen slower than you want but it will, no matter what we do now actually.
You did bring in more customers, however you will not see it. It is the same as planting seeds for a forest that we will never see. An extremely slow process without feedback. A good farmer drops seeds without looking back at them. A few have thanked me for intel, that's natural. But I have said near my last roster that if I have ever done someone a good favor, I only ask that they share intel and treat women right. I didn't do things for the thanks, but for the forest. Don't worry about it, anyone who wants to be done should quit while they are happy. Life is short.
I reviewed Allie by starting with "The age old dilemma, if I gatekeep a girl I can book her more easily and she is a little bit fresher when I see her. Or, I can reward the girl by shouting from the rooftops that she is wonderful. I tend to do the latter"
Ive seen many OC reviewers make a lot of great reviews suddenly, but only for a few months. Then they returned to their normal lives - it was always going to be a temporary thing. Or one guy finds the one and repeats nonstop, he gave his review that's all we can ask of him. Or even guys who were literally so satisfied from kgirls that they have been made whole and then quit kgirls for life being content for the rest of their days. Not a bad thing, quite the opposite.
My first visit Allie told me she didn't know if she was going to be here another week. So I reviewed her. She's now been in San Diego 5 months. This would not have happened if I made up good things about some average girl. My word does not have any such power. She is actually top tier, and I linked 6 other reviewers who came to the same conclusion. SD has "kept" several top tier girls from rotating back to OC for ridiculous stretches of time, when they were orignally considering just 1 week in SD. One of those girls I saw 11 times in 5 weeks and it wasn't just me. It is the perfect combination of weaponized thirst and desperation that is unique to a small market. SD also has a huge AMP market and those guys would dip into korgs every time a top tier girl was found, so the extreme dynamic doesn't quite work the same in OC and LA.
Allie is so good looking to me that if I were in college with her I wouldn't even bother trying. I'd just give up.
There are many reasons for rate changes. Psychology, demand, limits, frequency, short tours. Psychology means a girl feels more comfortable with a certain rate, I know this for a fact. Demand is if a girl is fully booked, of course she should charge higher. Corgs do this, starting a girl 500 then dropping to 400 - in that case it's actually fair and reasonable. There is limit, where a girl cannot take "ten dicks a day" to borrow NYC terminology. So a higher rate is appropriate if the dicks are very happy. And then there is frequency, where a girl loves ten dicks a day, so a lower rate is the right way to maximize earnings. People will hate for me to say this, but maximizing short-term earnings tends to ruin long-term earnings, and that the optimal response is a higher rate NOT lower. We have to think from their perspective, not ours. Short tours should explain itself, sometimes a girl has no choice but to do a short tour for personal reasons don't blame her. There is a 6th reason I won't say because it is an essay on economic theory. In any case, the most common reason is not what people think.
I don't say these things normally since it doesn't help to know. People don't like hearing it, they'd be much happier if I lied to them. It doesn't help, the only question is what we should do. I will say complaining won't do anything. People will vote with their wallets, and the final result is still going to be exactly what we have now and are complaining about. Luxury pricing must exist in every hobby, though we can try to limit it. Some of the SBC girls are worth it to those who see them. It does not matter if others don't feel the same.
As you say, the end game is we can't hype girls. I do the opposite because I consider it even more important to prevent disappointment than to highlight girls worth seeing. Basic description of girls is one solution. Some guys are very strict on details like hair, skin tone, boobs, manmade vs natural, height, weight, face vs body, service. When a guy shows up to see a girl he does not like, both lose. Money is not worth it, I won't go into the details they aren't pleasant. Yet many times basic details could have prevented this. It can sometimes be a simple as a guy being over the moon finding a girl with short black hair and palen white skin, literally everything else is forgiven when they hit their personal jackpot. And that jackpot is different for every single guy! The goal is a girl gets a bunch of regulars who are 100% satisfied, and avoids guys who will hate them. A good example is a thiiiiick girl who is very cute, one guy runs to her one gun runs away from her. Hope that makes sense.
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12-02-24 14:42 #8453
Posts: 756Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
What ends up happening is that people who don't ant more hyas to come straight up lie an give all these mediocre / rudimentary service girls 9's in service and shit.
I think it's dishonest and sad when a real service MILF who swallows all your spunk after no hand DTing your cock and spending 50 minutes of fucking you hard as hell. Gets the same service grade as hyas who just lie around and take it. Just because people want hyas to get good reviews so they stay.
Why not just give HYas great grades in f / b / looks and what they deserve in service / skills? Fair and honest.
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12-02-24 14:29 #8452
Posts: 1564Originally Posted by Aaabbbccc123 [View Original Post]
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7117097
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12-02-24 13:03
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12-02-24 11:35 #8451
Posts: 3432The Boner Conundrum
We may say, what's the big deal with 2 chicks, but everything started somewhere, even BB upcharges, which unfortunately I might also have helped make popular unintentionally. I was a fan of giving the people what they wanted after all, except MILFs, cause I tried to avoid new MILFs.
SBC did all the things I thought of doing if I started an HYA Club. They surely knew of this thread and even had a search filter for HYA before. They managed to poach at least 2 girls from other bookers to go GPS already. I had not tried to hype them up cause you know what will happen.
If we make them popular then you will be looking at much higher rate for HYA across the board. Two of the things I wanted was to provide pleasant and safe working experience for HYA and higher rate to recruit them easier. I heard more than one girls that they came here cause their friends introduced them.
So yeah, our wallets and reviews can help bring more talents. It's like voting. It's the only power we have but not enough people use it. Only reason I went public was cause I felt we didn't have enough reviewers and customers and I felt that things would turn bad for my taste if I didn't do something.
I was accused of being a "hypist" before so I still haven't "hyped" up more young girls. I didn't like it at all that young girls left early while MILFs stayed way too long. I am contemplating new things for the next Boner Administration cause all I care about is new young talents haha. Bros haven't seen me going full hype yet.
Originally Posted by BigZhangMang [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 11:34 #8450
Posts: 286Originally Posted by Ashwind [View Original Post]
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12-02-24 03:14 #8449
Posts: 667Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty [View Original Post]
We can't control what the girl will do or how she'll respond. Whether she rides out the hype train with constant bookings or increases her rate to work less and make the same or more is out of our hands. That said, what we mongers can do is react individually. It's your money; see her at the new rate if you think she's still worth it. Or pivot to another promising girl. The great thing about this forum is that you can get very good info and nuance to help you make an informed decision. You can solicit feedback to gauge whether a girl is worth seeing even at a higher price. For me, Ooyu was good but too curvy for me. At $500/ hr, she firmly falls into the "not recommended" category if anyone asks me. Unless you really really like huge natural tits and a curvy figure. If that's what you want, far be it for me to steer you off course.
My take on the pulse of the kgirl scene is that there will always be a demand for GFE only, BB MILFs, and HYAs. As long as that demand doesn't dry up, the respective categories will still exist. My guess is that from highest demand to lowest demand BB MILFs, HYAs, GFE only. I have absolutely no clue the actual percentages but from what I've experienced the preceding is a decent ballpark estimation. We have champions that take the vanguard for each category but I think most of us, including me, dabble in each category to provide variety and satisfy our curiosity.
I'll make a separate post on bookers.
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12-02-24 03:04
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