BBFS Providers Manhattan

[PinWheel97]

And I show them a good time. Despite what chained to the radiator says, they want to sight see and they want to have at least one day off. I take them to the places they want to go in NYC because they're often scared to go alone. Usually moma. Broadway. A nice dinner or a food they're craving. But this isn't about sex. They'll hold your hand and flirt and kiss. And that makes me feel king of the world. I got to spend a day with a hot j girl in NYC (or sometimes DC) on my arm. They got a sight seeing day that they didn't have to pay for. But then I bring them back. But we have a better connection after and they feel more comfortable chatting with me about their personal lives and we can have better conversations. If you don't care about this, then don't do it. But you might also get an offer from her to spend her last night in America with you for free. Happened to me twice. And then you have sex and it's amazing. Because they like you and you like them. Then they leave. And it's over. But. It was great.

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

[Fuctup]

I can see some resemblance but it's difficult to tell if it is the same girl because of the photoshopping. I think someone has to see her to find out. If you immediately notice a hot girl attitude then it's her. LOL.

I lean towards it being her because of the one arm up, other arm bent pose. But yeah, only seeing her in person can confirm.

[VidLover69]

Damn I thought she looked familar! I think you are right!

second though, I will just see and find out. VK saw her so he can check for us too. height seems right but the pics and outfit are diff so I wonder why she changed it.

I can see some resemblance but it's difficult to tell if it is the same girl because of the photoshopping. I think someone has to see her to find out. If you immediately notice a hot girl attitude then it's her. LOL.

[PokerBrah]

Same girl?

https://risingsun8.com/view/13691

Damn I thought she looked familar! I think you are right!

second though, I will just see and find out. VK saw her so he can check for us too. height seems right but the pics and outfit are diff so I wonder why she changed it.

[PokerBrah]

No one is paying. That is the game. I see this as the natural progression:
Discount CIP -> Free CIP -> Hangout outside -> Reduce session fee -> Discount / Free bang outside.

This should be possible with CGirls and KGirls. It's a major challenge with JGirls, since they are only here for a short time.

Mr. Miyagi-son.

/90 degree bow

[Genghis Dong]

Anyway, the advantage of Japan is that a lot of girls seem to be low-volume and you can easily tell. Also a lot of variety, just that popular group HT has like 60 girls。.

I would say they could have high volume but just getting tiny dicks all day. 20 tootsie rolls a day ain't doing shit.

[Genghis Dong]

No one is paying. That is the game. I see this as the natural progression:
Discount CIP -> Free CIP -> Hangout outside -> Reduce session fee -> Discount / Free bang outside.

This should be possible with CGirls and KGirls. It's a major challenge with JGirls, since they are only here for a short time.

That is all too much effort and too many visits. This works out for J girls because they are short timers and don't build up a loyal customer base.

I like the popular C girls that stay here. And forget it for me. I asked do you have customers that see you 4 times a week. And she was like oh yeah. I am once a week.

If you remember chubby cheeks Sakura she said lets hang out outside of the shop after seeing her one time and gave me her WeChat and shit. I was like nah not worth the effort. But there are other ones that would be worth the effort I guess.

[Genghis Dong]

What's happening in NY? Mary ran to DC and is now Hana at ahg. Another girl was recently in NY SL for a day or something, then ran to DC and went to asianelf as tomoe.

I just saw a j girl in ATL that was at WSD for 3 days. She told me one of the girls there told her you can only make money if you have big tits and do anal. She told someone else NY was dirty.

But what it really is, that NY / Manhattan has too many AMPs. If you are a shops #1 ro 2 girl you are making money. If not then not so much. DC has much less comp there (and ATL even less).

[Monthehunt]

I'm going to hit my 5 JGirl a week limiter by Thursday.

That's a serious first world problem. Is it not 7, so you can have sat & sun off?

[DrunkenKid]

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

No one is paying. That is the game. I see this as the natural progression:
Discount CIP -> Free CIP -> Hangout outside -> Reduce session fee -> Discount / Free bang outside.

This should be possible with CGirls and KGirls. It's a major challenge with JGirls, since they are only here for a short time.

[DrunkenKid]

What's happening in NY? Mary ran to DC and is now Hana at ahg. Another girl was recently in NY SL for a day or something, then ran to DC and went to asianelf as tomoe.

It's the same old story. There is still too much JPussy available. I'm going to hit my 5 JGirl a week limiter by Thursday.

[Download X]

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

Dates are not normal, even for me. Each one was a unique situation. There are girls that like me a lot more that will not date me. The "will not date" list is extremely long trust me. So there was a unique reason for each date. My desires are unusual, I just want to make her day and solve a unique problem each girl cannot solve on her own. Normal people are just going to be disappointed with dates.

I don't know how others do it, but I only date a girl on her day off. I don't want to cause trouble, make her lose income, or get banned. It has to be her decision to take the day off, has nothing to do with me. Most guys date for selfish reasons, so they are going to drain the woman emotionally. Maybe she will do it if he dumps money on her. So for these kind of dates he should pay the woman and make it a paid date. I won't touch that, it's not nice to the girl, just money. I want her day off to be a day of healing and recovery, a day of freedom, and a day where she sees how a man should treat her. Some girls have never had a man treat her right, just as a transaction.

I don't pressure women to go on a date with me, she has to really want it. Be warned, don't go otherwise. If the date happens and they hop in my car, the first thing I tell them is "You took care of me before, today it's my turn to take care of you." I mean it. It is the ultimate tip to give a girl. Every girl is really different. In most cases, at the end of the date they get up to leave my car and thank me on the way out. They had a great time. I stop them and give them some cash, saying this is to help out. It's not really for the date, she was about to leave anyways. There are details too personal but each girl thanked me differently and I treasure it deeply. And no, it was not a bang.

Even though I have a lot of money, I am not going to let them know. I'm just giving them a little of it as a gesture of sincere appreciation and to help them in life. Always at the very end. I am not bribing them to do anything and this makes it clear. It cannot be interpreted as anything but appreciation. Each of them already banged me multiple sessions by the date, so I am not left blueballed or anything. I have their porn anyways. In most cases, I book them again for goodbye bangs.

But one girl's case was really unusual, so I said I would help her for a day including helping her move out of her dorm. If we had time, we could go out after. She ended up doing a lot of it by the time I arrived so I helped her with a few critical things she couldn't do herself. It was a unique situation and I offered to help her pay for some shipping, give her the rest. We had a great date and I actually gave her more than I said I would at the very end. She is far away now and we will probably never meet again. But we have a shared memory forever. Memories and experiences like this are all life is anyways.

[Azf06]

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

[Monthehunt]

What's happening in NY? Mary ran to DC and is now Hana at ahg. Another girl was recently in NY SL for a day or something, then ran to DC and went to asianelf as tomoe.

[Download X]

I appreciate being able to take them outside. I am just trying to think of a pragmatic approach to a what I consider to be a "step 2" problem. I want to fuck them. I want to fuck them for free or for a discount. Like radiator guy, I want cut out the middle man.

Here's the summary of my issue:

I took a JGirl out. She had her hair done, tight mini dress, heels and make up. My jaw hit the floor. Michelin star restaurant. I was invisible to all the waiters at the table. Even the waitresses couldn't help smiling at her. The only one that gave me any attention was the gay sommelier. It was torture. I do not want to be teased like this again. I have to be able to rip the dress off when I take someone out or it's not worth it for me.

Someone reminded me that Japanese women are smarter than they look. Not that they are smart, but they are always smarter than they look. It's just my opinion, but I don't think it's realistic to bang them for free unless you are in a real girlfriend situation. It's a long shot to be sure, I'm sure it happens. A discount is certainly possible, so are punch cards - you give them business, they throw in freebies and extras as part of that pattern. Jgirls do everything for a reason.

I will PM you my goto restaurant, they have a branch in NYC. Very good food and service, but not a showoff place where people are checking out other dates. I've always done lunch there, actually took 3 jgirls now that I think about it. Lunch hour is business people, rich old people. She was quite amazed at the food and her mood improved a lot. I saw her genuine smile, the real her for the first time. I think if I took her to a Michelin restaurant she'd play it different. She might even compare you to other guys that showered her with money.

I had the same thing happen where everyone was staring at my date, everywhere I went. She looked amazing, not like when I saw her at the shop. I describe just one particular scene below in my car, last half of my post:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7058695

We banged and banged at the shop, but that above experience is one of the memories I will think of when I am about to die. I had such a day with an amazing woman, and I even made her feel amazing, too. I cannot tell the rest of the story but will say in PM why.

This is a mental game. More important than what you do are realistic and achievable goals. Many of them emotional. My goals are wacky, but realistic. First, I want to show her a day she'll never forget, leave her for the better. I want our day together to be one of her best memories of the USA if not somehow the best. Next, this is very controversial, but I am not out to bang her. It destracts from my other goals, and in any case is not realistic without paying. I bang all the time so that is not special (I understand the idea of a free bang is special, but again I don't think it happens much without something in return). So he bang before or after has nothing to do with this date, we can do it later. This is just a date. Another goal is I love to unlock women, it makes me feel amazing to make them feel amazing. And taking her out on a great date practices my skills of taking care of a woman for the next woman I date. I'm only here at this level today because that's all I've been doing before. I'm not a handsome guy, I have to build and rely on skills.

Always listen to what a girl wants. I took her lunch because she wanted to eat a certain dish. She said she liked something, so we took a detour to that shop and she loved it. It's something way better than she can get in Japan. She told me where she wanted to go, so I took her there instead of my normal routine I suggested to previous girls. After a few hours of fun I reminded her I was going to drop her off soon. She was surprised, hoping I would stick around all day with her. But I made it clear before and today it would be a half day date. The roles were reversed, she was expecting me to drop my plans and beg for more but here she wanted me to extend the date. As a compromise, I suggested one place I thought she'd like. At each place I took her too and showed her a good time, I transformed her. She was actually tired and mentally done the day before we banged, stopped taking appointments. But her smile came back, she let loose and was quite wild early on. I was lucky I'm not her boyfriend I thought.

This girl had many guys shower her with expensive gifts. But none of them had a real date with her. It was not what I spent on her, but that I listened to what she really wanted and we did that. A real date is free, both ways. So I don't ask for a bang because she is not a girlfriend now or in the future.

Another girl, I helped her move out of her dorm and took her to the beach. She had been here a year and never seen it. I took her many other places she can never see in Japan (beaches and beach towns suck in Japan). I didn't ask her for anything on the date. She will never forget me. Of course, I did bang her for 2 hours at the shop the next day. But that had nothing to do with it.

I don't want to disappoint by saying it is hard to get a free bang, I'm sure you can get it to happen but it has to work out in her calculus. I wouldn't force it but you might be pleasantly surprised if it comes naturally. It just might take several women before it does. Other than payment, girls might bang if they find you really hot or fascinating. So not me, I already know that.