BBFS Providers Manhattan

**Monthehunt** · 10-21-24 18:26

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

I'm going to hit my 5 JGirl a week limiter by Thursday.

That's a serious first world problem. Is it not 7, so you can have sat & sun off?

**DrunkenKid** · 10-21-24 18:18

Originally Posted by Azf06 [View Original Post]

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

No one is paying. That is the game. I see this as the natural progression:
Discount CIP -> Free CIP -> Hangout outside -> Reduce session fee -> Discount / Free bang outside.

This should be possible with CGirls and KGirls. It's a major challenge with JGirls, since they are only here for a short time.

**DrunkenKid** · 10-21-24 18:10

Originally Posted by Monthehunt [View Original Post]

What's happening in NY? Mary ran to DC and is now Hana at ahg. Another girl was recently in NY SL for a day or something, then ran to DC and went to asianelf as tomoe.

It's the same old story. There is still too much JPussy available. I'm going to hit my 5 JGirl a week limiter by Thursday.

**Download X** · 10-21-24 17:58

Originally Posted by Azf06 [View Original Post]

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

Dates are not normal, even for me. Each one was a unique situation. There are girls that like me a lot more that will not date me. The "will not date" list is extremely long trust me. So there was a unique reason for each date. My desires are unusual, I just want to make her day and solve a unique problem each girl cannot solve on her own. Normal people are just going to be disappointed with dates.

I don't know how others do it, but I only date a girl on her day off. I don't want to cause trouble, make her lose income, or get banned. It has to be her decision to take the day off, has nothing to do with me. Most guys date for selfish reasons, so they are going to drain the woman emotionally. Maybe she will do it if he dumps money on her. So for these kind of dates he should pay the woman and make it a paid date. I won't touch that, it's not nice to the girl, just money. I want her day off to be a day of healing and recovery, a day of freedom, and a day where she sees how a man should treat her. Some girls have never had a man treat her right, just as a transaction.

I don't pressure women to go on a date with me, she has to really want it. Be warned, don't go otherwise. If the date happens and they hop in my car, the first thing I tell them is "You took care of me before, today it's my turn to take care of you." I mean it. It is the ultimate tip to give a girl. Every girl is really different. In most cases, at the end of the date they get up to leave my car and thank me on the way out. They had a great time. I stop them and give them some cash, saying this is to help out. It's not really for the date, she was about to leave anyways. There are details too personal but each girl thanked me differently and I treasure it deeply. And no, it was not a bang.

Even though I have a lot of money, I am not going to let them know. I'm just giving them a little of it as a gesture of sincere appreciation and to help them in life. Always at the very end. I am not bribing them to do anything and this makes it clear. It cannot be interpreted as anything but appreciation. Each of them already banged me multiple sessions by the date, so I am not left blueballed or anything. I have their porn anyways. In most cases, I book them again for goodbye bangs.

But one girl's case was really unusual, so I said I would help her for a day including helping her move out of her dorm. If we had time, we could go out after. She ended up doing a lot of it by the time I arrived so I helped her with a few critical things she couldn't do herself. It was a unique situation and I offered to help her pay for some shipping, give her the rest. We had a great date and I actually gave her more than I said I would at the very end. She is far away now and we will probably never meet again. But we have a shared memory forever. Memories and experiences like this are all life is anyways.

**Azf06** · 10-21-24 17:32

With these dates that you chads are having with these working girls, are why'all paying their hourly rates for half / full day? Or are they taking off work just for you?

**Monthehunt** · 10-21-24 17:29

What's happening in NY? Mary ran to DC and is now Hana at ahg. Another girl was recently in NY SL for a day or something, then ran to DC and went to asianelf as tomoe.

**Download X** · 10-21-24 15:58

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

I appreciate being able to take them outside. I am just trying to think of a pragmatic approach to a what I consider to be a "step 2" problem. I want to fuck them. I want to fuck them for free or for a discount. Like radiator guy, I want cut out the middle man.

Here's the summary of my issue:

I took a JGirl out. She had her hair done, tight mini dress, heels and make up. My jaw hit the floor. Michelin star restaurant. I was invisible to all the waiters at the table. Even the waitresses couldn't help smiling at her. The only one that gave me any attention was the gay sommelier. It was torture. I do not want to be teased like this again. I have to be able to rip the dress off when I take someone out or it's not worth it for me.

Someone reminded me that Japanese women are smarter than they look. Not that they are smart, but they are always smarter than they look. It's just my opinion, but I don't think it's realistic to bang them for free unless you are in a real girlfriend situation. It's a long shot to be sure, I'm sure it happens. A discount is certainly possible, so are punch cards - you give them business, they throw in freebies and extras as part of that pattern. Jgirls do everything for a reason.

I will PM you my goto restaurant, they have a branch in NYC. Very good food and service, but not a showoff place where people are checking out other dates. I've always done lunch there, actually took 3 jgirls now that I think about it. Lunch hour is business people, rich old people. She was quite amazed at the food and her mood improved a lot. I saw her genuine smile, the real her for the first time. I think if I took her to a Michelin restaurant she'd play it different. She might even compare you to other guys that showered her with money.

I had the same thing happen where everyone was staring at my date, everywhere I went. She looked amazing, not like when I saw her at the shop. I describe just one particular scene below in my car, last half of my post:
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post7058695

We banged and banged at the shop, but that above experience is one of the memories I will think of when I am about to die. I had such a day with an amazing woman, and I even made her feel amazing, too. I cannot tell the rest of the story but will say in PM why.

This is a mental game. More important than what you do are realistic and achievable goals. Many of them emotional. My goals are wacky, but realistic. First, I want to show her a day she'll never forget, leave her for the better. I want our day together to be one of her best memories of the USA if not somehow the best. Next, this is very controversial, but I am not out to bang her. It destracts from my other goals, and in any case is not realistic without paying. I bang all the time so that is not special (I understand the idea of a free bang is special, but again I don't think it happens much without something in return). So he bang before or after has nothing to do with this date, we can do it later. This is just a date. Another goal is I love to unlock women, it makes me feel amazing to make them feel amazing. And taking her out on a great date practices my skills of taking care of a woman for the next woman I date. I'm only here at this level today because that's all I've been doing before. I'm not a handsome guy, I have to build and rely on skills.

Always listen to what a girl wants. I took her lunch because she wanted to eat a certain dish. She said she liked something, so we took a detour to that shop and she loved it. It's something way better than she can get in Japan. She told me where she wanted to go, so I took her there instead of my normal routine I suggested to previous girls. After a few hours of fun I reminded her I was going to drop her off soon. She was surprised, hoping I would stick around all day with her. But I made it clear before and today it would be a half day date. The roles were reversed, she was expecting me to drop my plans and beg for more but here she wanted me to extend the date. As a compromise, I suggested one place I thought she'd like. At each place I took her too and showed her a good time, I transformed her. She was actually tired and mentally done the day before we banged, stopped taking appointments. But her smile came back, she let loose and was quite wild early on. I was lucky I'm not her boyfriend I thought.

This girl had many guys shower her with expensive gifts. But none of them had a real date with her. It was not what I spent on her, but that I listened to what she really wanted and we did that. A real date is free, both ways. So I don't ask for a bang because she is not a girlfriend now or in the future.

Another girl, I helped her move out of her dorm and took her to the beach. She had been here a year and never seen it. I took her many other places she can never see in Japan (beaches and beach towns suck in Japan). I didn't ask her for anything on the date. She will never forget me. Of course, I did bang her for 2 hours at the shop the next day. But that had nothing to do with it.

I don't want to disappoint by saying it is hard to get a free bang, I'm sure you can get it to happen but it has to work out in her calculus. I wouldn't force it but you might be pleasantly surprised if it comes naturally. It just might take several women before it does. Other than payment, girls might bang if they find you really hot or fascinating. So not me, I already know that.

**Download X** · 10-21-24 15:22

Originally Posted by DoagMeister [View Original Post]

Soo. In Japan right now, actually tried messaging like 5 girls from NYC that you all know but only managed to meet up with one. In typical fashion all of them replied immediately and said "yeah let's meet!! Aitai" and then didn't pull through lolol.

Off topic, but since it was brought up before I hate to say it but Japan kinda beats NYC, but Manhattan is still great, and it's as close as you can get to being here. I was worried cause Japan law says yadayada but I've used some basic services like HT and essentially got the same service as NYC, maybe less DFK but still alright, half offer BBFS for slightly cheaper than standard. Looks-wise probably on par with the best Manhattan has to offer at least so far. And obviously there are great looking girls just walking around everywhere although most are off-limits. Did not have much luck with the standing girls though. Attitude was fine, they are cheap literally $100-150 for FS, sometimes BBFS, but they all wear masks so its hard to know who's cute. Actually, many of the standing girls are below average lookswise so if you go I would suggest asking to see them without a mask first.

Wonderful, hope you make great memories. 1 out of 5 is a win. For some people that is inconceivable, and you'll never forget you made it really happen. I have girls I will try to see but expect only 1 to really do it. Lots of reasons that don't matter. I do think "what you get for your money" comparisons between Japan and NYC are helpful on occasion. It helps us hold the line on excessive upcharges. You can make a fun trip on even $2200, the hotels and food are superb and cheap. But a bigger budget will grant you much luxury.

There are indeed lots of great looking women in Japan. They put in the effort. It is famous that once the clothes come off, some of them still look great but some not. In other words, Japanese people know presentation. If it is Friday or Saturday night while you are still there, go to the clubs in Roppongi. I was young and not charming, I was not even trying to pick up the girl when it happened. But I talked to lots of people men and women. Picked up one girl at a cafe, one girl sitting on the street in front of a pub, and one girl in a Roppongi night club. I was blown away. A nerdy guy like me never picked up girls in the USA. But Roppongi, 3 girls in just a few weeks. They were cute and hot.

Here are some experiences on Roppongi:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2951357

The standing girls probably wear masks now because there is a youtuber that films and upload them every day. Lots of guys harass them (there are more lookie-loos than customers, like a bad strip club). It is more common now to wear masks than before.

Included is lengthy explanation of the Japanese legal situation. The summary is don't even worry about it. They don't punish Johns and their efforts against FS is very minimal:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2952464

Below is commentary on an article on Okubo park in Kabukicho, the place for standing girls:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2952234

Hope this helps. I would even say half of my fun in Japan involved no women, just eating the food and walking around different parts freely. Super cheap. Check out Bic Camera / Yodobashi, Ichiran ramen, Meiji jingu (if you like walking in tranquility). It's a place I could go even if there was no fun at night.

**Fuctup** · 10-21-24 15:05

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

BiBi 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/15212 - "Bibi" was in Flushing in mid September. She was recently in Boston for a week. No idea what her stats are because lying CCP web sites. Big boobs. https://hougong521.com/view/15086. I have seen her pics, I thought she was in Manhattan for a brief period last time.

Same girl?

https://risingsun8.com/view/13691

**DrunkenKid** · 10-21-24 14:28

Originally Posted by VidLover69 [View Original Post]

LOL. It sounds like you took OG nanami out for a fancy dinner and got blue balls after.

Nope. Keep throwing darts on the board. LOL.

**VidLover69** · 10-21-24 13:16

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

Here's the summary of my issue:

I took a JGirl out. She had her hair done, tight mini dress, heels and make up. My jaw hit the floor. Michelin star restaurant. I was invisible to all the waiters at the table. Even the waitresses couldn't help smiling at her. The only one that gave me any attention was the gay sommelier. It was torture. I do not want to be teased like this again. I have to be able to rip the dress off when I take someone out or it's not worth it for me.

LOL. It sounds like you took OG nanami out for a fancy dinner and got blue balls after.

**DoagMeister** · 10-21-24 12:10

Soo. In Japan right now, actually tried messaging like 5 girls from NYC that you all know but only managed to meet up with one. In typical fashion all of them replied immediately and said "yeah let's meet!! Aitai" and then didn't pull through lolol.

Off topic, but since it was brought up before I hate to say it but Japan kinda beats NYC, but Manhattan is still great, and it's as close as you can get to being here. I was worried cause Japan law says yadayada but I've used some basic services like HT and essentially got the same service as NYC, maybe less DFK but still alright, half offer BBFS for slightly cheaper than standard. Looks-wise probably on par with the best Manhattan has to offer at least so far. And obviously there are great looking girls just walking around everywhere although most are off-limits. Did not have much luck with the standing girls though. Attitude was fine, they are cheap literally $100-150 for FS, sometimes BBFS, but they all wear masks so its hard to know who's cute. Actually, many of the standing girls are below average lookswise so if you go I would suggest asking to see them without a mask first.

Anyway, the advantage of Japan is that a lot of girls seem to be low-volume and you can easily tell. Also a lot of variety, just that popular group HT has like 60 girls。.

**DrunkenKid** · 10-21-24 11:41

Originally Posted by PinWheel97 [View Original Post]

There's noticing wrong with moma or Harry potter and the cursed child.
They do want to get out. But yes they don't want to have sex with you for free. Where did chained to radiator guy go?

I appreciate being able to take them outside. I am just trying to think of a pragmatic approach to a what I consider to be a "step 2" problem. I want to fuck them. I want to fuck them for free or for a discount. Like radiator guy, I want cut out the middle man.

Here's the summary of my issue:

I took a JGirl out. She had her hair done, tight mini dress, heels and make up. My jaw hit the floor. Michelin star restaurant. I was invisible to all the waiters at the table. Even the waitresses couldn't help smiling at her. The only one that gave me any attention was the gay sommelier. It was torture. I do not want to be teased like this again. I have to be able to rip the dress off when I take someone out or it's not worth it for me.

**Monthehunt** · 10-21-24 11:12

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Update

Evelyn PPC - nice tall skinny girl, cute face, small tits, at least 5'5 wearing flats. Little bit of nice #RTB on her. She's a screamer and moaned loud the entire time her pussy was getting stuffed with the meat. She's a very very nice genuine nice girl too. Some Ryo vibes in terms of niceness. You should see her if you like them tall and skinny and just a NICE NICE girl. bring ear plugs.

While she was screaming your ears off, did you get to ask her if she does video and pricing? Thanks.