"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**JMAbacus** · 07-18-24 22:29

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

I am in SC, not in Atlanta. I would say, yes I am picky. I can afford to be picky as I always have one or two good girls in my rotation. The two girls I have in my current rotation, I have been seing both of them for more than a year. One is 24 and the other 28. Both are single, white, and no children. My ppm are generally 300 to 400. The highest I have given was 600 for the girl we are talking about here. My previous post has more details. It was an overnight. She is 22, white, a college senior. I rate her 9 on her face and 8 on her body. 8 for the body was because her boobs are bit smaller than my liking but they are perky and playable. She is the friendliest and most sensual girl I have ever dated in this hobby.

Regarding 1 in 100, it goes like this. I cast a wide net (200 mile radius) and message any possible girls (within my preferred age group). I get responses from about 30 for 100 messages. From those, about 10 agree for a meet up. Then after a voice and video call before meet it comes to about 2 to 3 I decide to meet. Out of those I meet, I usually go ahead with 1 out of 3. Again, yes I am picky. But I rarely get disappointed by my picks. Different people play this game differently. They are just different, not good or bad.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Thanks, I was very satisfied with the value I was getting for a 3. 5 type PPM in the ATL even though the ladies were generally in the 7 range. They had good attitudes and good skills. The 4. 75 PPM for a non overnight stay just seemed a little high here in the Upstate for an 8. I think you have confirmed that's the case and I can choose to give it a try or shop around to see if I can do better in this area. When your looking for young, black, slender, and attractive SB's in the Upsate then the pool gets very shallow. Thick or fat we have in abundance. Thanks for the insight.

**DrSummer** · 07-18-24 21:41

I am in SC, not in Atlanta. I would say, yes I am picky. I can afford to be picky as I always have one or two good girls in my rotation. The two girls I have in my current rotation, I have been seing both of them for more than a year. One is 24 and the other 28. Both are single, white, and no children. My ppm are generally 300 to 400. The highest I have given was 600 for the girl we are talking about here. My previous post has more details. It was an overnight. She is 22, white, a college senior. I rate her 9 on her face and 8 on her body. 8 for the body was because her boobs are bit smaller than my liking but they are perky and playable. She is the friendliest and most sensual girl I have ever dated in this hobby.

Regarding 1 in 100, it goes like this. I cast a wide net (200 mile radius) and message any possible girls (within my preferred age group). I get responses from about 30 for 100 messages. From those, about 10 agree for a meet up. Then after a voice and video call before meet it comes to about 2 to 3 I decide to meet. Out of those I meet, I usually go ahead with 1 out of 3. Again, yes I am picky. But I rarely get disappointed by my picks. Different people play this game differently. They are just different, not good or bad.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by JMAbacus [View Original Post]

Damn, I'm shocked by this. I was active on Secrets and SDM last year and had no shortage of women in Atlanta anxious to meet me. I'm in my 60's as well and would gravitate to the slender black ladies that were in the 6-8 range. .

**Wleakr** · 07-18-24 20:50

Originally Posted by JMAbacus [View Original Post]

Damn, I'm shocked by this. I was active on Secrets and SDM last year and had no shortage of women in Atlanta anxious to meet me. I'm in my 60's as well and would gravitate to the slender black ladies that were in the 6-8 range. Most were less than 30 and worked. I did not split hairs about their educational background. Seems as if 3. 50 was getting it done with relieable ladies that would show up on time at the hotel, warm me up, go have dinner, and return for a finish. They put in a good effort and about 4 hours of time. The drive eventually just killed me coming from SC. I'm searching up this way now and had a M&G last night. 5'5' 130, black, student, 25, pretty, good figure, and could do all that I requested. Give her an 8 in looks. She said her car payment is 4. 75 so that's what she needs for a PPM. In my market I don't think she's far off but damn, I miss the Atlanta pricing. Just so competitve. Needless to say, with dinner and a room I'm well over 7. 0 Might have to drag my eldery ass back to ATL but your scaring me with this 1 in hundred thing. I'm not as particular, so maybe it's a non issue for me. Can you share what your PPM is for your 1 in 100 lady and give a rough estimate of how you would rate her looks? Appreciate your well thought out post. I don't mind spending, but just like to get a good value for what I spend. Thanks.

JMAbacus, I don't think the 1 in 100 would apply to you based on the demographic you prefer. It definitely wouldn't if you were in Atlanta.

**JMAbacus** · 07-18-24 20:21

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

Regarding patience, I always have one or two girls in rotation, so I go to a meet up with a new girl not in a position of desperation, but more in an adventurous mood. Girls sense that so they are not going to play games with me. I am always ready to walk away if something doesn't feel right. Once I find the right girl, I treat them well, and seal the deal quickly. Typically the coffee will be followed by a dinner at a good restaurant, then fun in a hotel room. I spent money on a good hotel room not trying to be cheap (at least Hilton, Holiday In level, not Motel 6).

Hope this information is of some help to you guys. But, I have to tell you, finding a good SB is much harder these days. It is a numbers game. Before COVID, I would find a good match after messaging about 10 to 20 girls. Now it takes at least 100 girls. Yes, it is lots of work. But once you find them, it is a blast. If you have time and energy, you can do it. Don't give up.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Damn, I'm shocked by this. I was active on Secrets and SDM last year and had no shortage of women in Atlanta anxious to meet me. I'm in my 60's as well and would gravitate to the slender black ladies that were in the 6-8 range. Most were less than 30 and worked. I did not split hairs about their educational background. Seems as if 3. 50 was getting it done with relieable ladies that would show up on time at the hotel, warm me up, go have dinner, and return for a finish. They put in a good effort and about 4 hours of time. The drive eventually just killed me coming from SC. I'm searching up this way now and had a M&G last night. 5'5' 130, black, student, 25, pretty, good figure, and could do all that I requested. Give her an 8 in looks. She said her car payment is 4. 75 so that's what she needs for a PPM. In my market I don't think she's far off but damn, I miss the Atlanta pricing. Just so competitve. Needless to say, with dinner and a room I'm well over 7. 0 Might have to drag my eldery ass back to ATL but your scaring me with this 1 in hundred thing. I'm not as particular, so maybe it's a non issue for me. Can you share what your PPM is for your 1 in 100 lady and give a rough estimate of how you would rate her looks? Appreciate your well thought out post. I don't mind spending, but just like to get a good value for what I spend. Thanks.

**DrSummer** · 07-17-24 22:59

Thanks JD. You bring up a good point, patience. My experience in the hobby / mongering spans more than a decade. In the hay days of backpage, I was doing back to back 15 min QVs for 40 a pop. After a close call, I decided to quit that life forever, and focused solely on sugar since then. I have met great girls over the years, made happy memories, great sex, can't complain at all. While it could be my luck, I believe my approach and certain rules I follow religiously help me finding the girls I look for. I wanted to share some of those if that helps anyone.

First, I am looking for an SB, not a hooker or a PRO (I know, you are going to say they all are hookers, they are not exclusive, I get it). I don't expect them to be exclusive, but I don't want them fucking 5 guys in a raw one day. I am after certain type of girls. My target age group is 20-30. College girls, graduate students, professionals who are not doing this out of desperation, but to have some supplemental income. Not a big fan of single moms. In my early screening I weed out all others.

I guess certain aspects of myself gives me an edge in this game. First, I am divorced and single, no SO. This gives me freedom. While I am over 60, I am in good physical and mental shape. I am no George Clooney in any stretch of imagination, but I take care of myself well, appearance, health and manners. Clean shaven, makes sure my teeth, nails, hair etc in good shape. Although I like casual clothes, I present myself well, I guess. Not just first meet up, every meet, I take time to prepare for every meet up so that the girl finds me attractive. My profession is considered somewhat prestigious, that may help too (I don't bring it up with them first unless they ask). Basically I project myself to girls that I could be a long term, stable, and safe SD for them.

Few rules I follow. Always meet up for a coffee before heading to FC, no direct hotel visits. No money exchanged (under no circumstance whatsoever) until panties hit the floor. Only ask her if she is open for intimacy before we meet for coffee, but I don't go into details like how many pops, sex acts, covered or not etc. Allowance will be discussed if they are adamant, but only vaguely. Always ppm, no monthly allowance. I don't treat the girl as a piece of meet. Being respectful, friendly, and funny go a long way. But, I don't try to be a simp. I will be assertive, and no-nonsense when needed.

Regarding patience, I always have one or two girls in rotation, so I go to a meet up with a new girl not in a position of desperation, but more in an adventurous mood. Girls sense that so they are not going to play games with me. I am always ready to walk away if something doesn't feel right. Once I find the right girl, I treat them well, and seal the deal quickly. Typically the coffee will be followed by a dinner at a good restaurant, then fun in a hotel room. I spent money on a good hotel room not trying to be cheap (at least Hilton, Holiday In level, not Motel 6).

Hope this information is of some help to you guys. But, I have to tell you, finding a good SB is much harder these days. It is a numbers game. Before COVID, I would find a good match after messaging about 10 to 20 girls. Now it takes at least 100 girls. Yes, it is lots of work. But once you find them, it is a blast. If you have time and energy, you can do it. Don't give up.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by JoyDrop [View Original Post]

Thanks for posting the update. It sounds like you've found a really good one that checks all your boxes, congrats!!

JD.

**ReffingMan94** · 07-17-24 21:22

I've seen her a few times over the last year. She's very sweet, very thin with fake boobs but a pretty good lay. When I saw her she hosted at her place which was nice.

Originally Posted by LittleMonster [View Original Post]

Visiting Atlanta for few days have a meeting lined up with this one says her name is S-L looks like she been around for a minute any info will be greatly appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-1a106f688f85

**JoyDrop** · 07-16-24 21:31

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

Update on this. I met her on Friday. She looked even better in person and the vibe was so good, I had no hesitation to go for the overnight.

Thanks for posting the update. It sounds like you've found a really good one that checks all your boxes, congrats!! There are definitely some high quality women out there waiting to be found on the SB sites if you have the patience to find them (and the game to catch them when you do)! I know for my part the experiences I've had have surpassed all of my expectations and then some. Good luck with your new girl and keep us updated!

JD.

**2me4Looking2** · 07-16-24 10:00

Originally Posted by LittleMonster [View Original Post]

Visiting Atlanta for few days have a meeting lined up with this one says her name is S-L looks like she been around for a minute any info will be greatly appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-1a106f688f85

I just messaged her as well and would like to know how it goes if you go through with it.

**LittleMonster** · 07-16-24 07:01

Visiting Atlanta for few days have a meeting lined up with this one says her name is S-L looks like she been around for a minute any info will be greatly appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...8-1a106f688f85

**HK Guy** · 07-15-24 19:16

Originally Posted by ChristianTroy [View Original Post]

Check post #14537 http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6958082.

She's a thief.

Thanks. You saved me.

**Christian Troy** · 07-15-24 18:17

Originally Posted by HKGuy [View Original Post]

Has anyone tried? Is she real?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...7-23589e4013d3

Check post #14537 http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post6958082.

She's a thief.

**HK Guy** · 07-15-24 16:35

Has anyone tried? Is she real?

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...7-23589e4013d3

**DrSummer** · 07-15-24 10:53

Update on this. I met her on Friday. She looked even better in person and the vibe was so good, I had no hesitation to go for the overnight. I have been on the sugar hobby for more than 5 years, and have taken closer to 100 girls to FC. Hands down this is the best experience of all. She was all I wanted from a SB. Easy to get alone, clean, and great sex. After 3 rounds, I was so tired I fell asleep. Then 2 rounds in the morning. She left around 10 AM. Never mentioned about the ppm again. But I gave 600. Worth every penny. After 5 minutes I got the text thanking me and and wanting to see me again soon. That tells me she was happy with the allowance. Keep up the hopes, good girls are out there, but I know it is hard to find them.

Play safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

Thank you all who responded to my post. I scheduled a coffee meet with her this Friday evening. Depending on the vibe I get in person, I will decide on going on for overnight or not. So far all the vibes I am getting are very very positive. She didn't mention about the ppm anymore and I didn't ask either. My gut says this is going to go well. But I will of course try to use my big head. LOL. I will report back the outcome.

Play safe.

Dr. S.

**LGSeeking** · 07-14-24 18:10

Originally Posted by Lookinatl [View Original Post]

This girl stole from me. She can't be trusted and you shouldn't put any money time or effort into her. Pussy is also loose.

Good to know as I have been talking with her for a year or so and was looking to have her to my place overnight (with cash and some valuables locked in my gun safe). I will now delete her.

**Leep12** · 07-13-24 21:55

Originally Posted by LuvitAtl [View Original Post]

Hey gents -.

I've never tried the SB approach. I'm wondering if you guys post pics on your profile or share them with SBs? I prefer to remain very discreet. So wouldn't want to share pics until we do a video chat. Is that even worth it? Or will I not get any decent responses to my initial inquiries without a pic to post or share?

DM is ok too. I appreciate your advice!

I agree with 2 me. Think you would be at a big disadvantage without any pics, these girls complain about all the fakes etc. Many will think you are a waste of time.

I used my own pics on SA. I did use some "borrowed" photos for a Tender dating account. Find someone reasonably close to your look and build.

It's not easy, I ended up stealing some FB photos from a guy I went to HS with. I figured no harm since we aren't in the same state.