Massage Parlor Reports

[M2003]

At any other healthcare treatment facility where client records are kept, can mid-grade "inspectors" examine client data, personal identifying information and treatment notes? Where are HIPAA protections in all this? I know there are monger brothers out there with legal expertise. How can this stand? Are there any legal challenges on the horizon? Thanks for your opinion.

-AG.

Usually if there's a warrant, court order, subpoena then they can get around hippa.

[OlderThanRocks]

At any other healthcare treatment facility where client records are kept, can mid-grade "inspectors" examine client data, personal identifying information and treatment notes? Where are HIPAA protections in all this? I know there are monger brothers out there with legal expertise. How can this stand? Are there any legal challenges on the horizon? Thanks for your opinion.

-AG.

I'm going to try and say this tactfully without getting into politics. But I think it's important to recognize that whatever your political beliefs -- there is one party that has been massively infiltrated by a large group of religious people who want to enforce their morality on the general populace and have been actively working to change laws to make that possible. Obviously, not everyone in that party is that way, but it does seem that politicians looking to gather enough votes to keep their jobs cater to their demands because that group is more vocal and organized.

I hate religion because of this constant need to try and push their morals onto others.

Both our political parties are piles of flaming dog-shit. But as a country, we need to find a way to push these religious people out of our politics and laws. I don't care what they do in their churches, and I don't want them to have any influence over how the rest of us live our lives.

So I don't give two shits which party you vote for -- but for the love of sanity -- just don't vote for any politician that will try and cater to these religious voters (such as our current Governor).

Otherwise -- we can expect more of these types of laws, more blocking us from websites like this, and more loss of personal freedom.

All right -- back to talking about blowjobs and four-hand massages.

[Area Gentleman]

I would imagine they would give it a couple of days for establishments to collect the required information then do a check to see if they complied. Not sure how they would verify the amount of customers to the information collected. Not unless they force them to give up their daily customer counts. I feel like that would be very intrusive to try and enforce.

At any other healthcare treatment facility where client records are kept, can mid-grade "inspectors" examine client data, personal identifying information and treatment notes? Where are HIPAA protections in all this? I know there are monger brothers out there with legal expertise. How can this stand? Are there any legal challenges on the horizon? Thanks for your opinion.

-AG.

[Big Bob III]

Anybody drive by and see anything? https://img.ksl.com/slc/2810/281037/...r=ksl/1600x900. I feel bad for whoever mamasan will be offering up as the sacrificial lamb.

[WenDans]

Since I don't live in the area, and very seldom get to an AMP, I don't get to post much. I do like my once or twice a year outing though. I sure hate for it to end. I'll be watching this forum for the next month. I hope the politicians do this like they do most things. Never follow up.

[MarkGew]

I would imagine they would give it a couple of days for establishments to collect the required information then do a check to see if they complied. Not sure how they would verify the amount of customers to the information collected. Not unless they force them to give up their daily customer counts. I feel like that would be very intrusive to try and enforce.

They're going after the Asians. They want logs written in English or Spanish. Definitely going after our Asian friends.

I'm hoping our Asian friends can comply. but they are in the crosshairs of our politicians.

[ArtistOfWar1]

Tomorrow is the big day. I guess we'll see what happens and how our experiences may change.

Waiting impatiently.

LOL.

[Swingle1988]

I would imagine they would give it a couple of days for establishments to collect the required information then do a check to see if they complied. Not sure how they would verify the amount of customers to the information collected. Not unless they force them to give up their daily customer counts. I feel like that would be very intrusive to try and enforce.

Yes it is. Maybe nothing? Maybe law enforcement has D. O. H. on speed dial and they send them where they want them to shut down our favorite spa's for non-compliance? Hopefully nothing?

[MarkGew]

Tomorrow is the big day. I guess we'll see what happens and how our experiences may change.

Yes it is. Maybe nothing? Maybe law enforcement has D. O. H. on speed dial and they send them where they want them to shut down our favorite spa's for non-compliance? Hopefully nothing?

[Soft7]

Tomorrow is the big day. I guess we'll see what happens and how our experiences may change.

[AznWenis]

Can you give more details on this apartment girl setup? Is there an apartment where this occurs in the city?

There is a Korean agency in Miami that uses apartments. Same model in other states. Book with the booker like how agencies used to before they all got busted in Miami. I liked that business model back in the day. I always preferred agency girls. Higher quality and any concerns the management usually makes sure you are happy. Prices are higher now. But if more competition maybe prices will stabilize. Agencies have more extras like cip, etc. Some of the apartment set up in northern states are not as high class like in Chicago. You can kind of just show up to a run down apartment and choose a girl. The set up kinda reminded me of a scene from The movie taken where its really down with a bed on the floor and girls in each room.

[Dick Jackman]

Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.

Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).

Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.

Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.

The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.

[Dick Jackman]

Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.

Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).

Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.

Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.

The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.

[IlliMonger]

Well said Jeff. I have been to the apartments in Vegas, LA and Chicago and everything Jeff says is spot on. If I had anything to add, the quality of the girls overall is definitely better than AMPs. Many offer a selection of Korean, Chinese, Pilipino etc girls. The slightly higher price is definitely worth it in getting your full time, multi-pops, special requests. Very little bait and switch. The bookers are good about feedback and anyone who doesn't perform as expected doesn't stay long. In the cities with the apartments, AMPs still exist, but are more popular for quick visits, those wanting a massage as part of the experience and don't mind the potential traffic coming and going.

I would read through the reports from the cities listed above on this site to get a better feel.

Hopefully, this model will appear in the area.

That could be either good or bad news. The screening can be a pain in the ass, and there is no chance for "walk ins". On the other hand, when you book an appointment, you don't have to worry about interruptions and constant doorbells. Oh... DO NOT KNOCK on the door, upon arrival. You walk up to the door, give them a chance to view you through the little security peep-hole, and the door will open. They absolutely do not want people knocking on the door, or ringing doorbells, every 30 or 60 minutes, all day long. Discretion is key.

Some pros & cons of apartments:

Pros:
-No interruptions.
-Guaranteed the full time (an hour session is 0:45-0:50 minutes of *actual* time).
-Web sites will have pictures for "window shopping". Most pics are either highly enhanced, or a completely different provider.
-Less wear and tear on the girls, so they can give a bit more personal attention.
-MUCH more privacy (no more elephant walk down the hallways).
-Depending on the agency, you have a "session" to do whatever you want (including toys & multi-pops). Some agencies might try to upsell for multi-pops.
-Some chances for "fantasy" roll play (if the booker trusts you, and the provider is up for it).

Cons:

-Higher prices.
-No table shower (standing shower).
-No walk-in option.
-4 hands will not be as common (if available at all).
-screening (sometimes intensive).
-availability of a given provider at a given time (be prepared to be flexile). Popular girls can book up, days in advance.
-Bookers can be flakey (slow response or no response, etc.).
-Don't expect a massage.
-The bookers will have your phone number, as part of the screening process.


That's my quick, off the top of my head, list. Anyone else have items to add?

[Jeff1976]

Would love to see those pop up.

That could be either good or bad news. The screening can be a pain in the ass, and there is no chance for "walk ins". On the other hand, when you book an appointment, you don't have to worry about interruptions and constant doorbells. Oh... DO NOT KNOCK on the door, upon arrival. You walk up to the door, give them a chance to view you through the little security peep-hole, and the door will open. They absolutely do not want people knocking on the door, or ringing doorbells, every 30 or 60 minutes, all day long. Discretion is key.

Some pros & cons of apartments:

Pros:
-No interruptions.
-Guaranteed the full time (an hour session is 0:45-0:50 minutes of *actual* time).
-Web sites will have pictures for "window shopping". Most pics are either highly enhanced, or a completely different provider.
-Less wear and tear on the girls, so they can give a bit more personal attention.
-MUCH more privacy (no more elephant walk down the hallways).
-Depending on the agency, you have a "session" to do whatever you want (including toys & multi-pops). Some agencies might try to upsell for multi-pops.
-Some chances for "fantasy" roll play (if the booker trusts you, and the provider is up for it).

Cons:

-Higher prices.
-No table shower (standing shower).
-No walk-in option.
-4 hands will not be as common (if available at all).
-screening (sometimes intensive).
-availability of a given provider at a given time (be prepared to be flexile). Popular girls can book up, days in advance.
-Bookers can be flakey (slow response or no response, etc.).
-Don't expect a massage.
-The bookers will have your phone number, as part of the screening process.


That's my quick, off the top of my head, list. Anyone else have items to add?