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  1. #48851
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    Posts: 287
    Tomorrow is the big day. I guess we'll see what happens and how our experiences may change.

  2. #48850
    Quote Originally Posted by RamseySt  [View Original Post]
    Can you give more details on this apartment girl setup? Is there an apartment where this occurs in the city?
    There is a Korean agency in Miami that uses apartments. Same model in other states. Book with the booker like how agencies used to before they all got busted in Miami. I liked that business model back in the day. I always preferred agency girls. Higher quality and any concerns the management usually makes sure you are happy. Prices are higher now. But if more competition maybe prices will stabilize. Agencies have more extras like cip, etc. Some of the apartment set up in northern states are not as high class like in Chicago. You can kind of just show up to a run down apartment and choose a girl. The set up kinda reminded me of a scene from The movie taken where its really down with a bed on the floor and girls in each room.

  3. #48849

    Christy at Spring / Let's Relax

    Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.

    Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).

    Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.

    Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.

    The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.

  4. #48848

    Christy at Spring / Let's Relax

    Sunday visit to Spring / Let's Relax. Called ahead to confirm that Christy was on duty and she was but she was otherwise engaged when I arrived so I had to wait until she was ready. All good.

    Christy is a young and pretty Chinese woman. Friendly and eager to please. Fit and trim body with large man mades. Went with the standard FS hour (80 + 160). Enthusiastic table shower with NURU, TUMA, BBBJ and cleaning. She even did a reverse NURU (back to back slide).

    Back to the room for a lengthy LFK session and then on to 69, MISH and some prostrate action. Finished with BBBJ CIM. Christy is a charmer with a lot of energy and enthusiasm. Very grateful for the opportunity to visit with her.

    Even though the new massage law takes effect tomorrow (July 1), there as nothing out of the ordinary at Spring. I didn't ask any questions about their plans, if any, to do a work around for the new law. Didn't want to appear too nosy and there is always the language barrier at an AMP. I also didn't want to risk misunderstanding anything and then reporting erroneous info.

    The AMPs have had a lot of time to prepare for the new law and I think they will solve the issues but the market will eventually make that determination. I'm solidly on Team AMP.

  5. #48847

    On point list / explanation

    Well said Jeff. I have been to the apartments in Vegas, LA and Chicago and everything Jeff says is spot on. If I had anything to add, the quality of the girls overall is definitely better than AMPs. Many offer a selection of Korean, Chinese, Pilipino etc girls. The slightly higher price is definitely worth it in getting your full time, multi-pops, special requests. Very little bait and switch. The bookers are good about feedback and anyone who doesn't perform as expected doesn't stay long. In the cities with the apartments, AMPs still exist, but are more popular for quick visits, those wanting a massage as part of the experience and don't mind the potential traffic coming and going.

    I would read through the reports from the cities listed above on this site to get a better feel.

    Hopefully, this model will appear in the area.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff1976  [View Original Post]
    That could be either good or bad news. The screening can be a pain in the ass, and there is no chance for "walk ins". On the other hand, when you book an appointment, you don't have to worry about interruptions and constant doorbells. Oh... DO NOT KNOCK on the door, upon arrival. You walk up to the door, give them a chance to view you through the little security peep-hole, and the door will open. They absolutely do not want people knocking on the door, or ringing doorbells, every 30 or 60 minutes, all day long. Discretion is key.

    Some pros & cons of apartments:

    Pros:
    -No interruptions.
    -Guaranteed the full time (an hour session is 0:45-0:50 minutes of *actual* time).
    -Web sites will have pictures for "window shopping". Most pics are either highly enhanced, or a completely different provider.
    -Less wear and tear on the girls, so they can give a bit more personal attention.
    -MUCH more privacy (no more elephant walk down the hallways).
    -Depending on the agency, you have a "session" to do whatever you want (including toys & multi-pops). Some agencies might try to upsell for multi-pops.
    -Some chances for "fantasy" roll play (if the booker trusts you, and the provider is up for it).

    Cons:

    -Higher prices.
    -No table shower (standing shower).
    -No walk-in option.
    -4 hands will not be as common (if available at all).
    -screening (sometimes intensive).
    -availability of a given provider at a given time (be prepared to be flexile). Popular girls can book up, days in advance.
    -Bookers can be flakey (slow response or no response, etc.).
    -Don't expect a massage.
    -The bookers will have your phone number, as part of the screening process.


    That's my quick, off the top of my head, list. Anyone else have items to add?

  6. #48846

    Apartment business model

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack1964  [View Original Post]
    Would love to see those pop up.
    That could be either good or bad news. The screening can be a pain in the ass, and there is no chance for "walk ins". On the other hand, when you book an appointment, you don't have to worry about interruptions and constant doorbells. Oh... DO NOT KNOCK on the door, upon arrival. You walk up to the door, give them a chance to view you through the little security peep-hole, and the door will open. They absolutely do not want people knocking on the door, or ringing doorbells, every 30 or 60 minutes, all day long. Discretion is key.

    Some pros & cons of apartments:

    Pros:
    -No interruptions.
    -Guaranteed the full time (an hour session is 0:45-0:50 minutes of *actual* time).
    -Web sites will have pictures for "window shopping". Most pics are either highly enhanced, or a completely different provider.
    -Less wear and tear on the girls, so they can give a bit more personal attention.
    -MUCH more privacy (no more elephant walk down the hallways).
    -Depending on the agency, you have a "session" to do whatever you want (including toys & multi-pops). Some agencies might try to upsell for multi-pops.
    -Some chances for "fantasy" roll play (if the booker trusts you, and the provider is up for it).

    Cons:

    -Higher prices.
    -No table shower (standing shower).
    -No walk-in option.
    -4 hands will not be as common (if available at all).
    -screening (sometimes intensive).
    -availability of a given provider at a given time (be prepared to be flexile). Popular girls can book up, days in advance.
    -Bookers can be flakey (slow response or no response, etc.).
    -Don't expect a massage.
    -The bookers will have your phone number, as part of the screening process.


    That's my quick, off the top of my head, list. Anyone else have items to add?

  7. #48845

    Quite the "glowie" questions?

    Quote Originally Posted by RamseySt  [View Original Post]
    Can you give more details on this apartment girl setup? Is there an apartment where this occurs in the city?
    If the local providers move to an apartment style business model, there will be screening required for "entry". Be prepared to be screened, if you don't already have references from other cities around the country. This will include things like your LinkedIn profile, a picture of your drivers license, a picture of a business card, a "selfie", your P411 account, your TER profile / username, a hotel room key, or any other items that the booker wants to see.

    If you have references from other cities, they will verify your status and maybe history. Multiple cities will be best, but their verification network and processes are pretty well established (coast to coast).

    Once you make it through the screening, you can work with the booker to coordinate time and provider. Don't expect the popular girls to be available, at your request. They might give you alternate times, or alternate provider options. If/when that is complete, the booker will give you an address about an hour or so before the appointment. Usually a mid-range apartment complex. Not fancy enough to have a front gate with security, but nice enough to keep the vagrants out. The apartment complexes near entertainment / shopping centers are popular, due to the high volume of foot traffic.

    If / when this change happens, don't expect table showers. The prices will likely increase, to compensate for the volume decrease (fewer providers in a single location). The apartment model may still have 30 minute options, but the hour long session (0:45 minutes, in reality) will be the primary offering. A 30 minute session will actually get you about 20 minutes, given their turnaround time. They will *not* have a provision for "walk ins".

  8. #48844

    Tokyo-Angela

    A few days late in reporting. I called to confirm Angela was working and was told yes. Drove up to the backdoor, which another monger pulled up and left after I got put of my vehicle. Backdoor was open with just a curtain covering the opening. Angela greeted me and took me to the room. Another walked in and asked if I wanted doubles. Pretty hard sell but I declined. Angela took me to the shower, which was great except backdoor was open the whole time, which is close to the table shower.

    Table shower was good, with some TUMA and BBBJ. Ok body scrub, nothing too special. Back to the room, we tackled BBBJ, 69 back to BBBJ and blew my load early, which she took like a championship, not a dropped missed. She said, you rest, I be back. After 5 minutes she was back and asked if ready for second round. Who to say no! Started BBBJ then went to daty and then with a little playing with her kitty exploded with hurricane force rain shower. Squirter like a porn star. A little cleanup, then hat came on for cowgirl and reserve cowgirl. Blew the load in the hat.

    Spent whole hour, two shots, one rain shower of a squirt show with no upcharge as mentioned before and no massage (wasn't planning on it, but always nice for at least a shoulder rub). Angela mentioned she was in town for only two days, then a few in NY then off to Seattle.

  9. #48843

    Let's relax

    In from out of town and thanks to your wonderful advice I went to see Blue at let's relax. Went for the four hand and Chrissy joined. I'll just say that all my dreams came true. Twenty years in this hobby across five continents and I've never had an experience like that. You Orlando boys have it made. 11/10 can't recommend more.

  10. #48842

    Hb 197

    Seems to be a privacy issue.

  11. #48841
    Quote Originally Posted by AznWenis  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by let's relax today. Saw Kristy, reminds me of the porn girl doshi. Great time, usual positions. Chatted with blue on way out. Sounds like they have a work around for the new law and can still keep things going as they were like in Texas. The apartment girl set up is a hit or miss. Was in Chicago and that's their set up. Not a real fan. The k apartment girls a bit better set up but usually higher priced. We will all find out soon.
    Can you give more details on this apartment girl setup? Is there an apartment where this occurs in the city?

  12. #48840

    Gardinea

    Dang. Disappointed.

    After having a poor experience at Let's Relax I decided to try another AMP. I arrived at Gardinea which I'm guessing is a newer location from their old place or maybe it was a similar name. Either way I arrived and immediately thought the location was high visibility. They do offer back door parking and entrance but I didn't know that until I walked up to the front entrance.

    I walk in and all the doors were open to the individual rooms and the place was as quiet as a church mouse. The girl who opened the front door was Jasmine and who ended up staying with me for the session. I had read some previous reviews about the table shower and so I wanted to try in hopes that it would be worth the experience.

    It was a complete let down. There was zero interaction on the table other than some warm water and soap.

    Now let me stop real quick. I usually read reviews and wonder if the monger writing the reviews is some ugly dude which is why the service sucked. I'm still young (39) in shape works out daily dude. I just like the quick access to post nut clarity the AMP can provide.

    Alright so back to the review. The table showed was so lame my d!ck went soft. I was so bored. We went back to the room when the doorbell rang and she left the room to answer after she returned my d!ck was sleeping. She worked to get it up with a decent BBBJ. She wanted to put on one of those tiny covers for some FS but I declined. Cause at this point I was bored. I told her to keep going which she did and eventually it was a cim finish.

    Standard wipe down, get dressed and leave.

    I personally would not be in a rush to head back tbh. Again I don't know if the monger gods are not smiling or if I'm missing something from the last time I was here in January. Either way, please someone tell me of another place that is not going to disappoint.

  13. #48839

    Whats the work around?

    Quote Originally Posted by AznWenis  [View Original Post]
    Stopped by let's relax today. Saw Kristy, reminds me of the porn girl doshi. Great time, usual positions. Chatted with blue on way out. Sounds like they have a work around for the new law and can still keep things going as they were like in Texas. The apartment girl set up is a hit or miss. Was in Chicago and that's their set up. Not a real fan. The k apartment girls a bit better set up but usually higher priced. We will all find out soon.
    Or a typo, and she gave you a reach around on way out.

  14. #48838

    Blue / Christi

    I have heard so much about blue, but kept missing her, so Christi answered the door today and took me to the big room because I had already texted and asked about 4 hands, I asked if blue 💙 was available for 2nd girl and happy to hear she was, what followed is only supposed to happen in movies, did everything I could think of except Greek, but I ran out of energy before I could ask, Blue is a rock star, Christi had plenty of energy and enthusiasm,10/10.

  15. #48837

    Let's Relax QualiyDecline?

    I stopped by LR last night and saw a provider. I forget her name but she wasn't worth remembering anyways. Honestly the whole experience was lacking and a complete waste of time and money. The girl was not even attractive. I paid for a TS but never received. The session felt rushed. I wish the Milk were still up and running. Now I'll have to try Tokyo or Gardina today and see if they are any better. After experience with LR it's hard to say if I'd be back. In their one defense I did see two other girls who stopped by and they were cute.

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